Racism in South Africa vs. America *Life in South Africa as an African American*

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[@ce666isa3]

“Not everyone that looks like you is for you and not everyone that doesn’t look like u is against you”

[@kemi1486]

My primary focus is on my health, my family/friendships and finances because crime, classism and r@cism/anti-blackness/colorism is in every country around the world.

[@AshleyinAfrika]

That can be a limiting belief based on your expertise. I invite you to explore it further Ina way that serves you and allows you the opportunity to flourish in your health, your relationships, and your overall state of mind. There is an expansion that awaits all of us.

[@davidrice6724]

agreed....irregardless of where we choose to live... the aforesaid is a reality

[@greyfox3931]

Someone gets it.

[@Facts-Over-Feelings]

@@AshleyinAfrika IF AFRICANS AS A MAJORITY HAD THE FIGHT LIKE FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS THEY WOULD NOT BE HELD UP BY EUROPEAN COLONIAL TYPE GARBAGE.. RIP BLACK WALL STREET. YOU WILL BE AVENGED..

[@midrashchannel9940]

Our people have been through hell. I am not willing to be an amnesiac towards that past. I don't move forward without the sacrifice and pain of my ancestors and it shouldn't be dismissed. It doesn't mean carrying hate or hostility towards whites.

[@greyfox3931]

amen

[@sozb6708]

Great comment, it made me reflect. For some of us...we do carry hate and hostility, and that's okay too. The older I get the more I learn to respect our (African) diversity and the MANY approaches to the Black/African experience. My default is to dominate "son" every unknown european man that is in my presence. I grew up in Memphis... we called losing to a white dude...in anything "breaking the law". I have always had a hard time dealing with Black/African people who don't have knowledge of self, or the ostrich types or worse.. the apologist... but these days I make an effort to understand them better.

[@TheHoodVoice2024]

Facts, I want what they owe us before I leave

[@ShaddyRaddy]

As an American, I notice there were commonalities of racism in the United States vs South Africa. During the height of Jim Crow, black folks were treated like second class citizens to the point where we were treated as subhuman. During the height of Apartheid, Black South Africans too were also faced with political, social, and economic discrimination. Of course, not all ski folk are kinfolks, we discern a individual’s character. However, as long as injustice remains, we should work to overcome the inequalities of black people globally.

[@AshleyinAfrika]

I hear you. I think we must pose the question, do black people globally want justice and are we willing to do what it takes to achieve it?

[@francigabade2358]

In America, there is racial profiling, and in Africa, it is downright tribalism.

[@langalethu4783]

Yes Black South Africans were systematically relegated to the lowest class and considered less than human which meant we had no human rights . We were denied citizenship altogether in their own homeland and up until 1994. Back then the apartheid government ruthlessly used execution as a weapon against Black South Africans this included innocent school children and civilians. Failure to carry the "dompas"(stupid pass) often led to arrests and most were executed or lynched their bodies disposed of in unmarked mass graves . Even To this day more mass graves continue to be discovered. The exact number of undiscovered graves is unknown but Each newly discovered mass grave reopens unhealed wounds

[@grobinson8873]

Well, to be more specific in America (where it is written) We are considered 3/4 of a man and In South Africa I know their history as well including their all-White TOWN! No matter where you go in this captivity, their evils will be there.

[@pietervorster5690]

It's a private Afrikaner village, not an all-white town.

[@giftcuba4905]

Oh yes i feel you ma'am. As a South African who has been learning the american culture and history, it warms my heart to see you in this land of your great ancestors with a sense of belonging to the land despite language barrier and cultural shocks. Watching your videos had solidified that the most powerful aspect of one'self is being connected to who they are. It is that time to revive the black nation and to enjoy the right of life to the fullest. Thank you for being a pioneer of that purpose and in discovering your soul purpose🙏

[@TribalGent]

And that over there is the dilemma that many black South Africans tend to have. The debate of treating our counterparts based off of character vs race. The best I can tell you, from my experience, is that it is important to always treat people based off of their individual character however you must always be ready to default to your own race. Sometimes it is hard because you are defaulting to people- of your same colour- who would slit your throat at any given notice but you will, with time, realise that white South Africans especially, ALWAYS default to their race and they are unapologetic for it. These are very deep observations and it is such nuances in reasoning that truly make the South African experience. Anyone black and South African from the most educated professor to car security guards will in one way or another articulate the exact same conflict so you can take comfort in that you are not alone. The only correct answers unfortunately, are those that are correct to you ❤🇿🇦

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Well said. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@KoolE23]

It's the same way in America. This intimate knowledge is what makes Black Americans and South Africans unique compared to the mindset of other African countries.

[@maruskaehrensdorfer]

@TribalGent, you have been hanging out with the wrong white South Africans. I wish that I could introduce you to my life and everyone in my life so that you can see what a non-issue race is to us and how there is none of this defaulting of which you speak. Sending you love. From a white South African. 😊😘❤

[@walterhunter3353]

The sun has definitely blessed you. Just beautiful...

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Yes, thank you is has ☀️

[@RatieM64]

When people talk about xenophobia in the context of South Africa, I get absolutely mad... for the simple reason that those eho screams xenophobia they are not addressing the wrong doing of those who are purported recipients of xenophobia.

[@TheJamieMuse]

Can you share what things may offend? I would like to learn so that I do not offend? I cannot speak for others. But, I cannot express how much I would feel horrible if I offended someone while visiting.

[@thefightphysician]

You come across as a beautiful person. As a coloured South African, I'm glad that people like you see the value in moving to South Africa. It's good to share the struggles of the country, but also the opportunity one has to contribute to a shared humanity and to grow as a person.

[@SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv]

Who told you South Africa is a struggling country

[@karabonkabinde7290]

She comes across as a Black person. "Colored" went away with apartheid, and there are literally Tswana and Zulu people who look just like her. Don't be a Twitter troll on KZbin.

[@Ultra_Magicc]

@@SbusisoMbatha-zb1gvlearn to read. They said country's struggles, like many countries, we do have struggles

[@maruskaehrensdorfer]

@@SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv every country has struggles. The person said: "the struggles of the country", NOT "a struggling country". There is a difference between these two terms. I understand that English is not your mother tongue, but it is also not my mother tongue. I am just explaining the difference in grammar to you. Take care! ❣

[@JuanHorn]

You are healing and growing, and its beautiful to see.

[@andrealynnwatson4238]

Spot on Ashley! Great video! ❤

[@silvergatesmedia]

Great video Ashley. I can't wait to visit SA very soon, God willing. I think if I happen to like SA, I'd be willing to buy a home there and be part of the community. I'm an African American Muslim, and its awesome to know there's a huge Muslim community there in SA. I also love to play golf and there's a plethora of beautiful golf courses there. I don't have anything holding me back now. My children are grown, my home here in the U.S is paid in full, I dont have any car notes to pay. Im free as a bird in my 40's, Alhomdulilah! (Praise be to God). I can manage my investments from SA easily. Ashley, you're the best! I also love watching my brother Dr. Asad. May God continue to bless you guys and your families. Ameen

[@judyswile]

Eid Mubarak to you and your family!✨ May Allah grant you good health, wealth and prosperity in this auspicious time!!! Insha'allah And we will await for your return home patiently!!! And yes, the Muslim community is big here especially in Cape Town. 😊We've lived in harmony together for eons. Our Christian neighbors/family gets invited for Eid and Muslims neighbors/friends gets invited for Xmas. I don't practice any religion but the respect we have for each others religion is first and foremost. I live so close to a mosque I can recite the call to prayer😅 but I also grew up in the Cape Malay culture. Please excuse me if it sounds like I'm gushing, that's because I am 😂❤I, we, fellow South Africans, we want our brothers and sisters here. 🫶

[@williamwebbs1952]

Another great vlog today 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

[@tonyafrica7085]

Thanks for the insight!

[@spiritsrejoice9857]

A really heavy presentation Ms Ashley..I was trying to hear what you were not saying...powerful...thanks❤❤

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Glad it was helpful!

[@karabotauyaborwamakunyane1301]

Thanks for sharing your thought ✌️🥰🩷

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Thanks for watching!

[@gilbertdiale1632]

I could listen to you speak the whole day ❤️

[@GEIsraelAKAGodsElect]

Always enlightening

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Thank you for listening

[@victorbeasley7031]

You're safe ❤ thank God for courage and wisdom, keep going 🙏

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Thank you for listening ❤️

[@peacefulheart1431]

Be proud being you regardless of your skin colour

[@growden100]

Thank you Ashley, great talk and insight. When a whole country of one race conspired, still conspiring, to keep a certain group of people in one place, that totally serves them. The workplace wasn’t always kind and supportive, I’ve seen so many people who don’t look like me fail forward, I didn’t have that opportunity. I’ve had to reinvent myself as an entrepreneur. After spending more than a decade in job roles in grants and contracts administration, I’ve reinvented myself as a grant writer, program designer and business automation. I recently got my first grant funded 200,000…not a lot of money but definitely a win for my business summary.

[@Demru_1]

You are such an honest human being

[@marjorjorietillman856]

Yes, growth is required in every season! Even when we seem to be stagnant, we can still grow. Now that I’m retired, my life is full and I still have things I progressing towards. If we stop growing, that’s when we’re in trouble!❤

[@prestonstapleton1258]

I thank you for your inspiring words Ashley. We are all different strands of the rope that is human kind , If a rope has one strand it is weak but with many strands it is strong. Yesterday is history Tomorrow is a mystery but Today is a gift that is why it's called the Present.

[@cathywelch9116]

Love you new hairstyle, Ashley. You are lovely as ever.

[@dmcarden]

It must be such a paradigm shift to live in a place where race is not the predominant characteristic as an individual...i imagine it must be a relief but as you say, a need to grow beyond the things we pick up as part of american acculturation. My wife is from Jamaica and had to adjust dealing with class vs. the overwhelmingly strong focus on race here in the U.S..

[@yahosephbenyisrael917]

Hey Queen Ashley ❤

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Hey 👋🏾

[@FreedomQuests]

Yes Ashley I definitely connect with this information cause I just had a conversation with a Ghanian woman who told me that my responses are a result of living in America being discriminated against on every level.

[@markmoses823]

The Future belongs to those who prepare for it...keen to learn your perspectives of how to move to this great future in Afrika /the Globe..

[@Pamoja1981]

Thank you for the work you do on Africa

[@monkeytube32]

Ashley, I do like and appreciate your perspective and views on everything you have said here. It certainly resonates with me in my life experience. You are so correct, and I appreciate what you are doing to help others. I have found that life today demands or requires rare skills and strengths that are not taught in schools, not even in two-parent family homes today, IMO. The ability to find some semblance of truth about whats happening around us and the world community, is strategically being hampered by the very sources that the greater public relies on, looks up to, and trust. This makes it difficult for the average person to "distinguish the signal from the noise," so to speak.

[@sayursaytv290]

My sister you are welcome here you are our sister we love you in this country, me personally I wish to meet you coz I know I can learn a lot from you

[@xolamxinwa350]

Nice content As the Miya clan we are taking you as our sister here in Gemvale Port st Johns in Eastern Cape .Thandiswa Mazwai (Singer) and her Sister are coming from this Clare name uMiya oGcwanini,Mja KaSijekula!please adopt it.

[@elimlinrr6898]

Greetings from Malaysia. As far as human skin tones are concerned, there are no black, white, yellow etc. There are different shades of brown, from light brown to darkest brown. Your skin looks light brown to me, and is a common skin colour in South East Asian countries. It's only in the US where they use colours to define a race.

[@AshleyinAfrika]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. unfortunately, we have to acknowledge and hold space for the collective experience of those who live in certain parts of the world with darker skin tones. Their past experiences are valid. The positive impact is that their future experiences don’t have to reflect those of their past.

[@KoolE23]

Asians may not define people by skin color, but they certainly discriminate by skin color. Dark-skinned people have historically been discriminated against and considered unattractive in many Asian cultures.

[@Ultra_Magicc]

Race is deeper than skin colour now. Someone brown from Malaysia will likely be treated better than someone brown from The US or Africa. Understanding that racial issues is more deep than complexion can bring in the right effort needed to combat. Right now, as long as you identify as Black, the world automatically puts you at the bottom. It's reality. We just wanna change that, however, we need to realize Black racism has been rife since pre-Van Riebeek and Columbus.

[@taharka3897]

Only in the US? Really

[@maruskaehrensdorfer]

@@taharka3897 yeah, it's DEFINITELY not just in the US! And I say this as a white South African who has travelled a lot. FYI: my significant other is a human rights lawyer, professor and activist.

[@rawedginnah]

Love, Truth, Peace Freedom, Justice, and Equality to the World…😎💯👍🏾

[@mohamedtaib2248]

Nice to c you are doing good Ashley I just one to tell you marwa he is in South Africa in Cape Town he whent 1 day toure in to Lesotho 🇱🇸 his coming back to Cape Town I hope you meet him Ashley i have listened to you all you said in Arabic they said Sabar this is very important the mining in English its to be patient everything will work out your way just continue what you do Sabar brings prospect and happiness in your future and family

[@xolaboltini4152]

Xenophobia??? 😂😂 Don't let them mislead you sis, in RSA we have a problem of foreign brothers coming in bringing and selling drugs, go to any city, drug distributors are mainly foreign.... When we deal with them they call us xenophobic. There are plenty immigrants in this country earning a decent living they never experience "xenophobia"

[@inigomulaisho2809]

Paint them out with a fine brush, right down to the country, right down to the tribe. To lump all Africans as one, 54 countries, just because the actions of some people from one country, one tribe, is unfair.

[@maruskaehrensdorfer]

So true!

[@sindilengcatshe-ln5hg]

Rubbish

[@johnlaroche7975]

I like your videos. This particular video does not reflect the title or vice-versa. This is just a comment, not a criticism. Keep on doing the great job

[@zhonwarmon]

People need statistics before deciding to move to a new place, whether it's within their country or abroad. They look at crime rates, health issues, climate, etc... It's understandable that these statistics might be negative for an entire district or country due to specific problematic areas. However, what people want to know is which specific areas are bad vs which are good.

[@AshleyinAfrika]

I’m not sure there is a such things as “bad vs. good.” There are pros and cons to every place. You have to decide which pros and cons you are willing to live with.

[@gibson2675]

Good point, but I noticed most African Americans in africa prefer not to mention anything negative about the continent especially when it comes to crime homophobia tribalism xenophobia etc

[@alt4374]

I really want to join the Africa investors academy but I see it’s closed. I’m planning to come to South Africa for three months this December, and see what my options are for living there asap! How can I best access your services, since the academy is closed. I’m willing to pay

[@Elaina944]

Hello, it comes across as authentic when both sides are talked about, and my opinion is some people want to hear only the negative side but, for those who are interested in actually making a move they want to hear the negative and the positive to be able to make an intelligent decision. Both sides of the spectrum should be researched and explored.

[@johngrisham4097]

Question. How did SA go from a developed country (yea, say what you want) to a developing country?

[@JimmyMaphanga-xv5md]

Ashley u have sunset studio now.nothing can stop u now to have few goat and a beautiful farm in rsa to grow for u motherland

[@ZaharaImole]

Salute to Ashley but honestly i didn't want to move to south Africa because of too many whites i didn't want to leave america to come to the same bull plus its way more expensive thats why i moved to west Africa but salute to your success there in south Africa keep your head on the swivel and i hope investors take a inlighten to you and make your stay easier especially for you promoting the brics and south Africa as a whole stay mentally strong woman

[@nikiphoenix709]

Lovely to meet you Ashley. You are warm and open and brave. Is there room for a white Johannesburg woman here?

[@mfundo6619]

Hey, Ashley. Has it sunk in yet that your grandchildren might possibly be first generation South African?🥺

[@moisesflores9109]

First of all you uave beautiful glowing skin Do you think South Africa is a good place for Mixed raced ans Latino/Hispanic people?

[@replay2rewind]

I like your hair

[@cathywelch9116]

Ashley what you describe has happened to many not just people of color. The controlling factions in every nation at different times and places have lied to us all, taught and fostered instability between male and female, between members of family, between ethnicities......... race, religion, culture ............... ideologues that sold us all into what destroys us as people. We are 1 race. Human race. Kudos to you for speaking up for truth. We do all want peace and love and harmony in relationships, neighborhoods, work places............ Lord Jesus, we so very much need your kingdom to come and your will be done.

[@chillout914]

sister i am from north africa i visited west africa and they told me i am not african because i am not black but my ancestors are berbers the native people of the north of africa , you will deal with a lot of that americans are very open and very nice africa is amazing stay strong you are in your land be proud !!!!

[@GeorgeMasibuko-y8j]

MOST North Africans don't consider themselves African. White supremecy broke your lot. Look at how blacks are treated in that region. Arab Africans are racist generally too. I see the here in South Africa. Rude and condescending

[@user-qg8gq3xb3x]

peace✨ I hope this reaches you well I emailed you regarding the activating womenhood virtual challenge, that has yet to began due to a continuous rescheduled start date… just wondering of any updates?

[@sonyaphiri8502]

❤❤❤

[@mogopodiphiri6286]

Hey hey 👋🏿🤗 Sosso Phiri. Hope u good 👍🏿

[@moisesflores9109]

Do you pass as a local in Cape Town?

[@Pilane892]

What does that mean? What's a local? A South African is a local anywhere. Black Africans are actually about 30% in the Western Cape and the numbers are increasing.

[@GrandEmporer]

Why didnt you move to West Africa where your ancestors are supposedly from?? Instead of only East Africa & SA

[@gibbyx3459]

What do you think of Britain wanting to send migrants to Rwanda, have you ever been to Rwanda?

[@mastiffcheetahmode21-qr9wk]

Hi💋

[@gibbyx3459]

I don't have WhatsApp,but maybe you could do a video on the British/ Rwanda situation?

[@girlanonymous]

But she is American. What would she truly know about what they are doing all the way in the UK???

[@gibbyx3459]

@@girlanonymous Ok

[@teddydavis2339]

Ashley, I would love to see a forum of investors. Many educated African Americans are choosing to take their wealth to Europe, which, of course, is their right, but if subscribers could see that Africa can produce positive financial results, they would be willing to get on board. If you show success stories, folks would be more willing to take a chance on the continent. You are amazing. Keep up the good work. God bless!

[@sbusbebe3620]

The ANC is more diplomatic I'm doing things because they decided to find mutual grounds with its enemies to work things out to benefit all that live, work and play in SA. They became too comfortable when Zuma took office and Corruption with misuse of state resources began slowly in Ramaphosa period faced with huge unemployment, high crime rates that once again divided the nation due to the poor service delivery. Now the ANC has been warned by the voters that if they don't fix the problems off corruption, high unemployment rates and high crime rates the next elections won't be pretty for the ANC losing even higher votes in the next elections. The GNU is just to fix the economy, crime, the ongoing matters of the imbalances that keeps on hunting SA but this time involving all race groups in the decision making process to wholly get results that will Unite the 🌈 nation since they chose to focus on a progressive multicultural society than breaking apart. The lies on a white genocide and those dumb ideologies off dreaming for an independent Cape Town to the whites when there are also blacks there wouldn't work but the idea crushed and vanish in the air. Most importantly getting more results in fixing the imbalances that left a scar to the current SA society this time involving more the whites in the decision making process.

[@traumaqueeen]

Its a government of 2 parties, DA and ANC. DA is former national party - the apartheid government.

[@fjtpersian6566]

​@traumaqueeen it's better than the economic freedom fighters .

[@eddiesengola4491]

@@fjtpersian6566no, it is not better

[@fjtpersian6566]

@@eddiesengola4491 it is smell the coffee.

[@fjtpersian6566]

@@traumaqueeenthe DA has nothing to do with the old Afrikaans National party .They we’re formed from the old Democratic Party .

[@ausieshepherd3806]

Dear at least you are welcome in South Africa and you are among people who look like you.

[@karabonkabinde7290]

Ashley, they only people who sincerely want to do away with race, are Black people, every other group is race conscious. I wish I could share some things with you that will restore your faith in your/our power. The are secrets in South Africa which, when revealed to you, you make you understand why this country is going far, and it's the native Blacks who'll be leading the way to the light.

[@BS-cc4ks]

Hmmm, no. Maybe do away with skin color, but race? The Zulu are Zulu first and every single tribe would put their tribe forward. There is no sincerity here.

[@SiphoNgumla-wu2gl]

Are you a sports person

[@TheHoodVoice2024]

Yes we have been through a lot in America sis. America owes black Americans, And I want what they owe us then I will proudly leave.

[@girlanonymous]

So you will die here (in American) because if Trump is elected in November 2024, Black Americans (us) will be screwed. We will be at the mercy of an already racist government that will become 100 times worse (militias included). Vote, tell your family and friends that they most vote.

[@diasporaconnecttanzania3521]

Sounds like America. I cannot deal with that type of vibe anymore. Wherever you have oppression you will have these issues to deal with. Lots of self-hatred going on! The weight of that has lifted off of me since living in Tanzania.

[@raindropsrainbow7516]

The more I hear people talk about racism, I get a bit disappointed because I wonder what amazing topics we'd be discussing rather than this growing insignificant phenomenon that's massively overblown by the media.

[@simphiwerini9652]

Capitalists are the most selfish people I have ever met.

[@RaceCarFriends]

1st to comment 😎

[@fredbantu3694]

So what is your comment?

[@RaceCarFriends]

@@fredbantu3694 My comment is much love and respect to all of my brothers and sisters, I hope we can all unite and stop tearing each other down so we can progress as a species.

[@langakhanyile4847]

Therei is good and bad in all races black and white, you just gotta know who`s in your corner.

[@todxecks]

Think as if, become as if.

[@KareemDaKing]

But what had happened? This is so general. Beautiful video. But it feels like you’re holding back.

[@Rijjrijj555]

LoL there's so much black and black things to do and focus on in Africa vs any other place. Establishing black wealth and wellness should be your only real concern. The other races absolutely do and believe in such.

[@EMPERORPROVIDENCE]

Racism😂😂😂just means our Tribe...white people are tribalistic...but say afrikans are tribalistic...

[@dugebuwembo]

Nah they still delineate based on language, creed and culture. Being "White" isn't enough

[@steve-zg3xp]

We are South Africans, you are an American, calling yourself a African American is part of the issue..

[@user-hw9th1yb6u]

As an Hebrew Israelite we are instructed/commanded to live in peace with those who will live in peace with us. Even Abraham "the beginning of us Hebrews" was instructed to get "away" from his own people. The Book of Yasher/Jasher explains why. I have found in my travels from South America, Tanzania, Central America and elsewhere. That I am received far better from those who "don't" share my brown skin complexion than those that do. I am speaking of those who live in the U. Mess of A. I wish you success young princess and shalom to you.

[@allistairlundall3147]

During apartheid we were forced to see race, South African have always done the opposite to what government wants, your race is the least most important part about you, blows my mind how far the rest of the world is on this issue.

[@biggeststeppa1]

Don't you think it's childish to expect every black person on earth to be for you? I mean there has to be some level of delusion in there.

[@user-cx7fz5pi9s]

The current president betrayed the legacy of South Africa 🇿🇦

[@elroyswarts2337]

The previous one was worse.

[@sayursaytv290]

You are crazy slima ndini

[@sanelemwelase]

ANC has been betraying the legacy of SA since 1994, Ramaphosa being the worse president ever.

[@A_Green_Olive_Tree]

Mrs/Ms. Ashley _ why ? Are you talking about Cape Town as if is a country not as a part of South Africa, there is no such thing as South African and Cape Townian Language like Cape Townian is the one that makes those white people in Cape Town to want to turn Cape Town to small Europe

[@MAZ440]

At least from a tourist point of view, I felt a marked difference between those who live in Cape Town and those who live in Johannesburg. You may not be able to notice it the way an outsider notices. By the way, this is not true only for South Africa, even in the country where I live in different cities there is a slightly different mentality.

[@myzzkim88]

@@MAZ440I agree! It’s a big difference and you feel it as soon as you arrive in Cape Town

[@A_Green_Olive_Tree]

@@MAZ440 lf you put it that way !!! I understand

[@ZaharaImole]

​@@myzzkim88I believe you feel when you go there and I never been because I seen to many whites and I was like I'm not leaving America to be around the same racist bull so I moved to west Africa and plus it's way more expensive there

[@wegap2012]

@@ZaharaImoleYeah I agree CPT has become unaffordable for the locals unless you’re in the upper 10% earners. That’s the problem many have with the DA government cause they tend to pander to the West and “foreign investment” at the expense of the local population.

[@maja2625]

Who is suffering in south Africa? I ask this question because I live in the U.S and from this side... I see black people suffering over there more than any other race of people. When will they be able to enjoy the riches of their lands like others have enjoyed it.

[@carlruppert7324]

If you mean "suffering" in the financial sense of the word, then yes, it would be primarily black people. However, some things to consider are the following - black people make up over 90% of the population of South Africa. Within that large percentage are people from every single social class and economic group, ranging from the completely impoverished to the super rich. The black middle class, which has been well-developed in SA and continues growing every year, has already surpassed the white middle class in number (yes, you read that correctly). This clearly shows massive progress, yet many people choose to focus on the impoverished masses as "proof" that there has been little to no progress. What many forget is that SA is still a developing nation economically speaking, and overnight social transformation simply isn't possible within that context. Quality education, free markets, and continued economic growth are the only ways to right the wrongs of the past in any meaningful and/or sustainable manner.

[@chozenegra2674]

No one can convince me anywhere in Africa is "a better life" than America.

[@sandanista2002]

My own experience as a non American and non South African, that based on the places I have traveled to in the U.S, I choose South Africa every time. I don’t know what African countries you have visited, or your experience

[@chozenegra2674]

@@sandanista2002 I like clean water, consistent electricity and all the luxury of living in America.

[@sandanista2002]

@@chozenegra2674 Flint literally exits 😂

[@chozenegra2674]

@@sandanista2002 one city out of a hundred thousand cities and towns. That was due to city officials trying to be slick. I know you're just trying to be a contrarian but we all know the real. I like government services and plentiful, sustainable employment.

[@user-fi3ut1pk1t]

​@chozenegra2674 wow ....what a chip on your shoulder....pull thru come see for yourself because mainstream & your school curriculum did you a disservice. Verify everything.....just saying

[@45651121]

Well... The ANC United with the DA ... So that means that South Africa will be returning to colonialist.. I'm pissed... We was rooting for South Africa..ANC failed..😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@mogopodiphiri6286]

I am pissed too...but the struggle continues: Aluta Continua 🫴🏿💪🏿🕊️🖤🌱🌍🙏🏿

[@Pilane892]

The ANC is not united with the DA - get your facts rights. The two are distinct organisations with different ideologies and will never be one. Just wait and see the dynamics unfold in the next 5 years.

[@45651121]

@@Pilane892 they said it them selves that there united...the da got the whites behind them.. remember the whites control 87% of south Africa economy..they got the wealth...all these years ANC got paid off...😒😒😒😉😉😉😉

[@siyatise5165]

Your anc has destroyed this beautiful country, please give DA a chance....don't be racist.