"Racism Is RUINING Metal"

[@cambienvenu]

The blurred hands describing an ass is hilarious 💀

[@muenchhausenmusic]

I am both baffled and amazed by the direction this channel is recently taking on occasions 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@boomertuxx]

LOL the tier lists for fast food and video games is S tier I do day

[@dogfrosinos70]

Whoever wipes standing up is idiotic 😂😂😂

[@crewd00d]

I'm an adult, and I don't listen to heavy music because I'm angry or violent. I just like the way it sounds. I don't resonate with the lyrics of hating everyone or wanting to mutilate corpses. I just like the heavy sound and the musicianship. I can be happy, healthy, professional, and have good interpersonal relationships while listening to dank nasty breakdowns and blast beats in my free time lol.

[@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord]

People that watch horror movies are obvious just serial killers in the making. And GTA is the cause of the recent spike in carjackings.

[@Jorgetime]

Yep chug chug just sounds good I dunno

[@travisspaulding2222]

Here's my issue with that whole thing. It seems like today's "protest" music, whether left or right, is just shilling these days. Most of it just seems disingenuous these days. In the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s most of the political music seemed genuine. These days, especially on the conservative side, they just seem like they made a business decision. Make it over the top so that Ben Shapiro talks about it, and then laugh all the way to the bank. I don't know a single hip hop fan who like Tom MacDonald, but the couple people I know that do listen to him (or at least shared a video) are people who don't like hip hop. That says a lot, lol. It's unfortunate because people seem to overvalue lyrics and are willing to listen to something they would otherwise hate only because of the lyrics. For me, lyrics were the last thing I cared about, lol.

[@SIRebrum]

​@@JorgetimeChugga Chugga Sounds Fire asf to me, if Patterned the right way.

[@adamreinhardt9135]

Some people are super surprised at how much I love metal because I’m a Lutheran pastor and overall a pretty anti-violence, pro-kindness guy. I try to explain that all of the violence, anger, the satanic imagery, etc are part of a performance. Kind of like watching a horror movie. It puts you in touch with dark feelings and concepts, helps you confront dark realities and explore dark imagination - all in a “safe” context. It’s not just about the riffs for me. It’s about exploring the human condition through music.

[@Duke4214]

Finn: "no one's hating on the NFL, star wars and call of duty" Welcome to the Internet, this must be your first day here 😂

[@perfectallycromulent]

go to a Star Trek convention and you can round up a bunch of people who hate all three of those things.

[@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord]

The VA of Jar Jar was pushed to sewer slide contemplation.

[@itsme123126]

yeah, ill pretend not to still see posts about the last jedi and how it ruined sw and cinema to this day...even if it came out 6 years ago. or people taking a massive piss at CoD for about a decade at this point

[@plaguedoctor4519]

COD has a lot more problems with it now, the female streamer thing is probably niche 😅

[@user-kd8ol2ro9t]

PC culture is killing metal/rock

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

FINN IS WOKELY USING WOKE WORDS, WOKING WOKELY ALL OVER THE PLACE! 😤😡😤😡

[@johandrytenias1725]

WOKENESS is WOKE now, he's ruining WOKENESS by being WOKE

[@SamuraiKaio]

Sounds like an Attack Attack song

[@user-fi8kj3im1p]

Finn I like ya dawg but he right... he right....

[@seized-timbres]

i think i just woked 😩

[@Vivi_9]

I know this is parody but half the population of western countries actually think like this lmao

[@Cryomancer21]

Some americans forget that the rest of the world might not share their views on politics.

[@sole__doubt]

And we couldnt possibly care less about the rest of the world. If only the feeling was mutual...

[@donnienarco144]

Europe and Asia use the U.S. as bad examples of lack of resources and development. Especially americans that come to Europe talk bad about their own country that says something.

[@ewww21]

I like how race is political.

[@siniister710]

@@sole__doubtwhich is why we suck. No one in this country gives a fuck about anyone but themselves. 0 community aspect at all.

[@sole__doubt]

@@siniister710 Not where I live. You probably live in a neighborhood where minorities are welcome. I have to drive past those occasionally I feel for you.

[@Mialamorena1]

SPEAK FINN!!! QOTSA has a black person in the band!!! I am a 59 year old black woman who grew up in the MTV generation. I LOVE LOVE LOVE your channel, even though I don’t know 69% of the music you are talking about, but I sure go and listen after watching you. People always gawk at me like I’m a sideshow freak when I play rock music. I DONT CARE!!! I should watch you on TWITCH. I think you’re the best!!!

[@schaefer1898]

Love your comment. I work IT (lots of white metalheads) and I keep telling my co-coworkers how my wife converted me to metal and keeps buying me concert tickets, etc. They don't know she's black yet. Can't wait to see their faces once they find out. 😂

[@johanericsson7309]

That guy must have the most insane neck/shoulder mobility! How else would they see their ass while standing?

[@infidelmat]

I believe he meant its easier to view your dirty paper.

[@tomhuitema2068]

The only person that has ever said "If I want to listen to thrash metal, I'm going to listen to Believer"

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

That’s because I’m a certified thrash elitist

[@SuperStrik9]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Finn have you heard the new Morbid Saint album Swallowed By Hell? Great album with some killer Ed Repka artwork. Their first album Spectrum Of Death is an all time thrash classic imo. The new Atrophy album Asylum is great as well. It's their first album in 34 years which might be a record lol. Evildead are putting out a new album Toxic Grace that I'm really looking forward to. Comes out in May. 2024 is being great to us thrash fans. 🤘

[@brandsmith72]

I dont know the name of it, but the first track of one of the Believer albums had an opening guitar riff that was top-shelf. Was one of my go-to riffs when soundchecking. And while we're talking about "that kind of" music... The Crucified are a band who was just as great as a punk band as they were a metal band

[@herculesbrofister265]

and every Believer prays to the almighty, the Kreator.

[@pAWNproductionsDE]

There definitely is some racism in metal, but I think sexism is much more prevalent. You can't consistently shit on things pretty women like then wonder why pretty women don't like you

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Oh for sure. I know quite a few women in metal bands and they got all kinds of stories

[@crewd00d]

Also homophobia and transphobia. Metal is probably more accepting than a lot of other genres, but there is a big chunk of homophobics in the metal community.

[@Frederick0220]

Thomas Sowell said it best. "Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as 'racists.'"

[@Frederick0220]

Thomas Sowell said it best. "Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as 'racists.'"

[@kattheshredder6]

Lol metal heads are a walk paradox and so is the community

[@TheRealAb216]

Racism in metal.... Kid rock and Kanye West in thumbnail 😂

[@kikiki4592]

Dude, they are more metal than any of our favorite metal artist. Have you heard some of the riffs they have dropped on us, Slayer and Pantera only dream of riffing like that.

[@nickkorea5850]

watch the video before making a comment

[@kikiki4592]

@@nickkorea5850 I did and he makes funs of people putting things in the thumbnail for click bait and kind of shits on it, yet he is doing it also. So think before you comment, also.

[@zumatoobs]

@@nickkorea5850 yes over on O’block, they are worried about racists…. Haha

[@newwaveinfantry8362]

Kid rock is not racist. The left repeatedly calling all conservatism racism over and over again doesn't make it reality.

[@elimcfly350]

The biggest story here is that there are people out there who didn't realize you can/should wipe sitting down. What!? Absolute barbarians.

[@leighkavan5992]

Yeah my mind exploded. 37 years on this planet I had no idea that was even an option

[@PhreakPhantom]

When "I just don't enjoy hip hop , that's all..." became something "racist" to say, nothing else is racism.

[@fatefatefate]

It's "racist" to even listen to supposedly racist artists even if they don't talk about their politics in their music at all. It's like you're supposed to actively monitor your fav artist twitter acc and instantly disengage being a fan the moment they "wrongthink." You are fully responsible for this

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

​@fatefatefate eh . If they didled kids, would you still listen? Or better yet, what do they have to do for you not to listen. If it's just talking politics then you have weird standards

[@fatefatefate]

@@BillyDHughesDrumsThat's the worst attempt at making an equivalence i've ever seen.......I'm not even going to attempt to explain how inane that is. I'm just going to say that yr parents really must be brother n sister. loll

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

Nah you want that to be true. Noone says your racist because you don't like rap. It's usually when you follow it up with. "Yeah and the way they treat their women" lol metal was white hiphop and did all the same shit rap did. Metal artist just cried more

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

True, even when those that go out of their way to be racially motivated or edgy in a cringy way aren't racist, they're just making dumb opinions about something they don't like, hate, or got hurt by somebody. Oh I forgot but also by boomer's, oldheads, or elitists that just hate rap, new stuff, or genres mixing I guess.

[@RanterInShades]

“I’m not saying it’s racist, but it’s racist” Finn, stop.

[@yemartini5443]

Tell me you didn’t listen to his argument and are just straw manning

[@springer90]

So is it racist if u wipe standing up?

[@shanetrain90]

I was crying laughing so hard about you telling him you're not gonna teach him how to wipe and to look it up on wiki how😂😂😂

[@ryandavenport2232]

I was trying to eat breakfast, and next thing i heard is a debate about sitting down or standing up to wipe your ass 🤢

[@fatefatefate]

Same. Hate when he says gross stuff on here

[@ryandavenport2232]

@@fatefatefate Baha, yeah, and then I sat here thinking about it while trying to eat

[@thejrfanclub628]

weak beta mindset. I shit while I eat

[@JhamEntertainment]

Dropping ka plunks as we speak

[@ryandavenport2232]

@@thejrfanclub628 Cool story. I don't eat where I shit👌

[@derekrottenberg4211]

Ive found that the older i get the heavier my taste in music gets. There is nothing wrong with me. Im married with kids and have a good job. I grew up on country and other normie music, which i still love. But i find my pallet for music getting more extreme as i get older. I have a very normal life, and there's nothing wrong with me. I think its possible to like that music just because you like it. Not because your f'd up in some way.

[@savagedonut]

Agree, you like it cause you like it as you always did from when you were younger. Or you like it now while you are discovering it. Its fine to be metal to the core, full metal for life.

[@brandonmaddox4862]

I just live by the creed “like what you like, just don’t push it on me if I don’t”

[@StuartHetzler]

imagine thinking that being against racism and homophobia is still counterculture

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

I like Finn but he is a major crypto

[@StuartHetzler]

@@drinkinouttacups2665 i don't know what that means 🇺🇸

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

@@StuartHetzler Cryptok-ke

[@AxeMain]

I think it's more punk to be racist

[@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord]

@@StuartHetzlerGore Vidal v William F Buckley Jr

[@miguelbettencourt4893]

God I'm a stander, I just feel you need to look at your shit first and predict what's gonna show up on the wipe

[@neilpatrickhairless]

💀💀💀

[@hamburger512]

Let alone putting my hand between my legs towards nasty poopy bowl water is awful.

[@MrLando0]

@@hamburger512wait, is that really how they do it?? I thought sitters lifted their butts to the side off the toilet. How do they not touch shit water?

[@hamburger512]

@@MrLando0 do they? That might make more sense. Obviously I am a stander lmao

[@Ructions]

Howard Jones era Killswitch Engage is my favourite rap rock band.

[@anubisanarchy5710]

Lol

[@OGM_OriginalGameMusic]

god. all my life. people who caught me listening to metal, they would say ''what you angry for?''. Surprise surprise. i can just listen to music cause i like it. The trick is to not let anything (or anyone pushing stereotypes on you... including, sometimes you to an extent, Finn) define you as a person.

[@dusty987]

luke5100How so?

[@josephtyler2212]

wow i made it on to a finn mckenty video and it's about me standing to wipe my ass

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Congrats bro

[@therealkakitron]

And here I am, a Mexican who's about to launch a 90s style grunge project sang in Spanish 😂

[@anubisanarchy5710]

Por favor, quiero escucharlo.

[@worksofein6449]

Metal as stimming is deffo true for me. I'm not that into the extreme lyrics or musical technicality, but something about heavily distorted guitars, especially with low tunings, just really hits the spot and helps chill me out. I also get the same effect from drum n bass, dark ambient, some film scores.

[@Chill-mm4pn]

Hell yeah, good times fam.

[@mikeyexplainseverything5482]

Every black rock frontman being compared to Corey Glover and Lajon Witherspoon from Sevendust is kinda racist.

[@brettkihlmire573]

That's because they don't know many other bands with black frontmen, or their interest in rock/metal is shallow. I did notice that when there's a black person in a band, people (especially Europeans) get all excited in a very creepy way. Prime example is Melissa Bonny (Warkings, Ad Infinitum, Rage of Light). She's an incredible vocalist and that speaks for itself, but for some reason people can't help but gravitate toward her on her ethnicity instead of her raw talent as a singer. It's plain dumb in my opinion.

[@tokeypokey]

Howard jones called he said them guys suck

[@NuMetalDad]

As a Gen Xer, there was a moment that made me realize how much of an influence 90s pop culture had. I was going to a Concert with my 24 year old son, and all the way there he was playing his playlists. It was almost seamless the transitions from bands like Helmet, Blink, Hatebreed, to newer bands like Boundaries, etc. Even the rap. At one moment I thought a Ghost Face Killah song that I didn't know was on, and it was some new rapper(to me). All that, and the fact that we we go to concerts and listen to a lot of the same music. It was pretty cool. Also, it was hilarious to me when I tried picturing my dad and me going to concerts together.

[@user-fw9gp8wg7f]

I don’t know…. Metal celebrates a LOT of diversity. If you find out there’s a metal band from Malaysia you’d think it’s cool. If anything hip hop is the genre that vocally shuts on non-blacks rapping.

[@SerebiiWarrior]

Japan has been doing metal for a while and while fairly niche, Mongolian metal is a thing too. Plus, in South America metal bands do very well on tour there. Hip-hop has always been traditionally thought of as black people music, but its still drawn in many fans of all races. I suspect the same thing is gradually happening for metal too. When music can reach a global audience through the internet it would follow that eventually people from many different walks of life would start their own scenes.

[@abhorrentlullabies9947]

Not believing in woke fantasy land doesn’t make someone racist. This is the most tiring argument from the past 10 years.

[@pyromaestro]

💯% 🙌🎆

[@MofosOfMetal]

I don't buy that this "unconscious bias" is the main reason for less views. I think that people are less likely to click on videos with black people or women in them partly because of a "reaction against wokeness". People are wary of being preached to, and people are also wary of musicians being promoted based on their race/gender. People sense that a push for diversity comes at the expense of quality and have lost their faith that artists are being promoted based solely on merit. This is how "wokeness" backfires - it tries to help the disadvantaged but ends up with this weird reverse effect.

[@alteredendeavor]

This is closer to the reality. I really don't care about the color, sex, or preference of a person in the band. I do care about hamfisted narratives and things being overly promoted for the sake of a flimsy ideology.

[@roxannablack666]

I agree.

[@AnungUnRama987]

so wokness has been smashed to oblivion to mean nothing and now just black /women equal woke lovley ,

[@MofosOfMetal]

@@AnungUnRama987 No - "Wokeness" in this context means something that may have good intentions but negative side effects. "Diversity" and "Inclusivity" are positive things when encouraged naturally but there have been many cases where it has been "pushed" at the expense of quality. I'll give you an example - I saw a recent Metal Hammer article celebrating new exciting up-and-coming Metal artists - they talked about how exciting it was that they were female and/or black and are "smashing stereotypes". It felt like they were more concerned with promoting diversity and inclusion than promoting music based on quality. It made me less trusting of the magazine's capacity to promote things on musical merit.

[@AnungUnRama987]

​@MofosOfMetal you provided a title at least, the above simply says if black and or women I don't click because wokeness (a word I still is smashed into oblivion to simply mean something I don't like/agree with 90% of the time)

[@phillipbug958]

Rap is far FAR more racist. They’re openly willing to say some dumb stuff & not to mention how they treat women, lgbt & any other race even, if trying to rap.

[@herbicide2]

ok phillip

[@zumatoobs]

@@herbicide2 A’s leaving Oakland.

[@jarjarabraham7079]

Metal is a white space just like Rap/Hip Hop is a black one, deal with it.

[@jbanne001]

Please, like metal hasn't said the same dumb stuff and treat women gays and other races terribly? And I say this as a metalhead for over 30 years. Why does any critique of metal automatically go towards an attack of rap also? Why can't there be genuine criticism without whataboutisms?

[@zumatoobs]

@@jbanne001 what are you even talking about. What metal song are you referring to? Meanwhile Pick just about any rap song

[@RÅNÇIÐ]

I had a beautiful childhood and grew up in an intact household and I still gravitated towards Metal and still do. 🤷‍♂ Well, okay, maybe I'm a little autistic, though. 😂

[@svmmyb0i220]

I disagree with the take about rock fans not being inclusive. When I found out that bands like Oceano and Brand of Sacrifice have black front men, I thought that was the sickest thing ever 🤘

[@willrunriot]

I can hardly take assertions of racism seriously anymore, unless it’s brazenly obvious. Our culture really does have an obsession with being a victim, and that mindset is holding society back more than any sister-banging trailer park racist - and for one reason, really. Only one of those viewpoints is not only culturally-acceptable, but straight-up promoted. Both are appalling.

[@TheEllis197]

Sum 41’s Chuck was amazing! Bitter End! To me it felt like they always wanted to be heavy but the record execs pushed them to a more pop punk vibe cuz that was what was popular at the time. Chuck felt like it was them playing what they wanted.

[@TheCarebearstar]

Omg why are we talking bout poop all the time 😂

[@morganqorishchi8181]

What you describe as "like me-ism" is called tribalism in psychology. You construct an in-group and an out-group and prioritize people who you perceive as being like you and deprioritize people who are not like you. The result is that you often over-identify with art (music, video games, TV shows, etc.) made by people like you and don't give art made by people not like you a fair chance. It's not a healthy thing for any scene, be it a specific music genre or an art scene or any other form of media, as it causes you to overlook things you would like if you gave it a chance.

[@Astral_Wave]

Metal didn't abandon me when I was younger. I won't be leaving it in my 40s...❤

[@savagedonut]

Metal to the core man, stay strong.

[@m1ke176]

Agreed!

[@mikephilly6748]

In response to the baddie-core comment I was one hundred percent that way with Sleeping With Sirens and Asking Alexandria in high school. Saying the music sucked and they were only big because chicks think the singers hot. Once I got over myself in college and realized I was missing out on actual good music and just fumbling the bag with chicks for 4 years lol

[@Nestorglass]

I mean, you werent wrong, they got that popular due to girls thinking they were hot but i mean, every major popular band falls on that category at some point too, without being baddiecore What i can critizise baddiecore for is being repetitive and boring 😅

[@mikephilly6748]

@@Nestorglass it’s a problem I’ve had with Finn on this kind of take for awhile. At some point it is true but you also have to blame the band/label for marketing the band/vocalist so aggressively that way.

[@Nestorglass]

@@mikephilly6748 yeah neither the band nor the label/management/marketing team are that stupid to not see that coming. They completely do it on purpose. Noah Sebastian wasnt afraid of showing himself lookin like a snack at any point until it got uncomfy for him I guess, but they were relying on his image/persona as much as BMTH does with Oli (which is for me the prime example of this).

[@chairmanofthebored6860]

While there are outliers in any genre that do embrace racism, I can guarantee you that a black dude showing up at a metal show would be much more welcome than a white dude showing up at a corridos concert

[@perfectallycromulent]

Yeah, just put on a suit and people will think you're from a record company and you'll be just fine at a corridos or any other type of concert as a white guy. White guys in suits get welcomed into places.

[@snarepusher]

I think starting from the 90s it became a lot easier for creative DIY subculture people in music, film and probably arts in general, to produce good stuff and also spread it to an interested audience. Of course there have always been exceptions, but before that most bands needed a label or studio to like them and most of the times think that what they are doing would be profitable in the existing market. The advances in stuff you needed to record music, go on tour and media made that a lot easier in the 90s and it also meant that bands like Nirvana, who never actively sought to become stars, could produce music that was distributed to millions of people finding it great, while still being somewhat anchored in the culture of their genre. Also for many people living conditions changed immensly. I know some very creative boomers who would have had everything necessary to become stars, but they had to work at 16 and be able to support a family at 20. Some of them went on to play in local bands with their friends (or paint, sculpture, record hobby films etc.) for the rest of the life, but going on a van tour, not making any money for a few months or spending all their income to record a demo jsut wasn't an option for most people before the 90s. It's the finanicial wealth of the boomers that allowed their Gen X kids to experiment at least until their mid 20s, so of course more people found their niche or market to make a career work until then, others produced a few memorable songs and later went on to live a "normal" life with "normal" jobs. I also think that the felt cultural impact of that probably peaked in the 90s because later it got too easy. The fact that everyone could produce and spread good sounding music, films, and so on after sometime int he 2000s led to incredibly fractured scenes. So instead of having like one Nirvana, one Green Day and so one there are hundreds of them, probably all great, but no one is able to follow all of them, so the question which stuff becomes so big that it will stay relevant for the future again comes down to gatekeepers, luck and the new player algorithms

[@t045tSKT]

Burzum kicks ass.

[@fronkswars2354]

Varg rules!

[@blacksunshine7485]

Dont let Phil Anselmo near the wine at Ted Negents confederacy appreciation for gods sake.

[@jumbokeg1348]

I just had the conversation that started around 3:50 in my car on the speakers outside the gym and people totally heard

[@brianpeppers8236]

I'm a conservative and love Sevendust, Hendricks, Howard from Killswitch and the dude from Bad Wolfs. All bands with black singers.

[@e-heromanny4348]

"how many racist, homophobic, conservative rockers are there?" me staring at the Death and Black Metal community 🤨

[@DigitalBath306]

these guys arent ROCKERS tho

[@RidinMyGrandmasCadillac]

@@DigitalBath306 neither conservative also

[@drakethesnek6429]

In other words, healthy communities.

[@DrunkDriver5]

​@@drakethesnek6429 yeah the black metal community is definitely known for being good people and definitely not being weirdos 👍

[@SrSacaninha]

can you even call people in death and black metal 'conservatives'?

[@truevudderhutz3482]

You know what? You gotta sitting and then wipe one last time when standing

[@SamuelMooreFlamencoMusic]

Hi Finn, long time lister, first time leaving a comment. I'm not a fan of doing the whole "speaking as a ..." thing , but I'm mixed heritage (my dad's black and my mum's white). I'm not saying this to imply that my view is more valid than anyone else's but rather to be upfront that I'm speaking with some degree of personal experience here. I just wanted to say this. I'v been a huge rock and metal fan since I was a kid and in over 25 years of going to live shows (from grass roots stuff all the way up to big stadium concerts) I've always found the rock and metal community to be a very welcoming. Irrespective of there background or mine, everyone just seems to want to hear great music and share that amazing experience of seeing phenomenal bands live. They (the fans base at large) don't seem to care about skin pigmentation and nither do I. With this in mind, I would respectfully disagree with you on this one. If anyone feels excluded from the rock or metal scene I'd say that might be self imposed rather than grounded in anything coming from the music itself or fan base. Granted they'll be a few exceptions to what I'm saying here and admittedly, I'm more of a rock guy than a metal guy when it comes to live shows + my experiences are all UK based, but I stand by my view. In short, racism seems to me to be so rare on the scene that in a quarter of a century of being immersed in it, I literally can't name you one instance in which I (or any of my black or mixed friends /family members) who come with me to shows have encountered it. Great channel by the way and thank you for all the great content you're putting out. 👍

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Just remember metal is the only genre with an entire subgenre of nazis, where if you are looking at certain Euro festival lineups you need to do research to make sure you don’t accidentally watch a nazi band

[@SamuelMooreFlamencoMusic]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA thank you for making the time to reply! I agree that what you've just said is indeed (sadly) true, but I would say (and certainly would hope) that these are exceptions in the genre rather than reflective of the whole. As such, I'm reluctant to view racism in either rock or metal as systematic problems as opposed to localised. This being said, I'm very conscious that I'm basing what I'm saying on my own experience of live gigs (not data) and I'm certainly not as well listened as you when it comes to metal so perhaps I need to look a little deeper. It also strikes me that it might simply be different with different bands and as such, perhaps I'm just not seeing these issues due to my listening preferences. With all this in mind, thank you for bringing it up, it's been interesting to hear a different perspective on this subject. Thank you again for the content you are putting out. I really enjoy your channel and always look forward to each video. 👍

[@Owlr4ider]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Why do you keep bringing this up? Yes those guys exist, so what...? They make up about 0.000000001% of the overall metal community so are you are giving them so much power? Also why do you have to do research? Even if you do stumble into unknowingly listening to such a band and find that you actually like their music than who cares? I mean most black metal lyrics as a whole are pretty unintelligible so you won't even know they're racist unless you do a deep dive into them. And if you do by happenstance realize that you're listening to racist music than by all means stop listening to it if it bothers you. If you like the music listen to it, if you don't than don't. It doesn't even matter why you like or dislike a certain band, whether it's due to racism or any other reason, do whatever you want. Free country(well if you live in the western world at least, in other places it depends where) and all that... I don't get this obsession with sterility that woke culture has brought us.

[@stevemps11]

Bro if the music is good I don’t care who is making it. I believe most folks feel the same. for example IMO of course the lead singer of spirtbox i can’t recall her name at the moment comes off as an insufferable b$:!h in some of her interviews however I think she is a badass vocalist and when ever spirtbox goes heavy she is absolutely amazing.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Courtney LaPlante, and while looking it up to make sure I remembered it correctly, I saw she's like just a few weeks younger than me, funny.

[@annadarko6056]

I feel like in the late 80s, 90's and early 2000s artists were allowed to experiment more/their experiments got more chances to be in the spotlight of the mainstream. During the 2000s piracy became a problem for music labels and film studios, so from then on everything started to become more controlled. Then social media and streaming services boomed and more artists had a chance to promote their art everywhere. But imo it just feels overwhelming. Especially music is extremely hard to filter for me and I have to admit that I find it increasingly difficult to just sit and listen to an entire album from start to finish. Of course rich millenials not having original ideas and remaking all their favourite movies and shows from their childhoods and making a film adaptation of any good game is the bane of our existence.

[@dominicanbeastieboys]

STANDERS RISE UP

[@stevesblancos7351]

guilty

[@tommyroulette917]

Me reading this while rising up to wipe

[@A.Moortal]

Literally

[@NickyDiamond44]

Gotta check the boxes or else you might seem racist. There is no unconscious bias in metal. Metal has always been 95% white and male. That’s just who happens to be metals primary fan base. It’s not because metal fans are exclusionary of blacks and women. Blacks and women tend to not like metal and it has nothing to do with white bias or bigotry.

[@paravan2000]

Actually, there were quite a lot of black musicians and fans in the 80s metal scene. Since 90s there are less.

[@kingdick8390]

It’s insane people think this way. Bro this isn’t 1950 60s segregation lol some cultures like stuff more than others. Big deal. They just need to come out and say if you’re a majority then you’re automatically racist

[@Duke_of_Spook]

They changed the definition of racism to be 'group of white guys'. They don't even have to be racist for them to be considered such. How fun!

[@anubisanarchy5710]

There is some unconscious bias in metal. It might be small but it exists. The same is vice versa in early rap until Eminem. Rap fans did not want to listen to white men until Eminem and even after Em would be the only white rapper liked.

[@symptomofsouls]

Same thing as asking "why are there not more black hockey players", they just prefer other sports. No one is stopping a black kid from learning hockey, they just aren't as interested in hockey. There are definitely black people who love metal, but for the most part black people prefer other genres. No one is stopping them from enjoying metal.

[@Nestorglass]

Few very weird people in this comment section, i WoNdEr WhY 🥴 I thought we had alreasy established racism was bad

[@Nestorglass]

​@Necromass-uj3tp racism essentially always was disliking other people because of their ethnicity/skin color. Some people nowadays tend to play this 4d chess type racism game, for example, WWEs gonna have a black lady sing the nacional anthem this weekend. Theres already comments of people saying they went woke and they ruined WrestleMania. Theres "im gonna beat you up because you're black" racism and there's the "im gonna cry about white people being opressed/erased when they're not" racism. They coexist and enable each other lol.

[@Nestorglass]

Necromass-uj3tp white boi internet gang mentality like the one some people offended by this video are showing, for example

[@AmiliaCaraMia]

@@Nestorglassit's kinda like the ideological inverse to when he talked about communism in rock music not being cute or clever.

[@fu102]

no one is saying its good cool guy

[@Nestorglass]

@@AmiliaCaraMia i wish i had seen more communist crybaby comments than far right ones but thats not the case.

[@Sunwarz707]

The oldest surviving guitar instrument is a tanbur from Egypt, dating back to circa 1500

[@thaddeusk]

I'm in my 40s now and I listen to heavier music than I did through most of my teens and twenties. I'm a successful, home-owning, techie, so have a pretty good life. I tend to listen to more tech death and atmospheric black metal. I just like complex music, which is why I also enjoy classical.

[@dylanmcmahon4902]

Im sure the comments will be reasonable and not racist

[@AmiliaCaraMia]

I'm sure the comments will be reasonable and not think that racism wouldn't exist if not for every conservative thinker in the country.

[@zumatoobs]

@@AmiliaCaraMiazombies for joe biden

[@Frederick0220]

"Anyone with a different opinion than me is racist" lol@@AmiliaCaraMia

[@BDeClue18]

I must be autistic because my childhood wasn’t messed up and I’m not on board with all the lyrical themes of metal, but it still sounds cool to me and is very enjoyable 😂😂

[@kylecoss1764]

I was always under the impression that Infant Annihilator was basically a satire band. Extreme for sake of being extreme. Have you seen there music videos? They are absolutely silly. With that said, I enjoy them when I workout. Great video!

[@crowzstine6371]

I don’t think anything is stopping black/gay people from joining the rock/metal scene. You’re talking about the scene as if it’s 1980. I don’t think there is another genre of music that has a more accepting fan base lol. As far as low numbers of black people. Well, could it just be that most black people don’t care and don’t like metal and rock? Just like the flight industry. The reason there is a low number of black people isn’t because of oppression, but because black people just generally tend not to want to be pilots lol. Music is one of the most freeing and liberating arts and if we start looking around and going “there’s 50 white artists- that means we need 50 black artists as well” that’s just stupid to measure shit like that. People like what they like, if black people generally don’t like rock or metal, what can you do lol

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

There’s an entire subgenre of literal nazi black metal

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA RAC exists too, not sure what your point is

[@MikeHoncho610]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBAthat almost no reasonable human being would ever listen to.

[@MekareP]

Do you have data to back that up about the pilots? Because guessing and generalizations about something like that isn't great to base an opinion like this on. And I say this because talking about this subject this way you gotta be accurate.

[@BasedHyperborean]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBAk. There are also skinhead rappers lmao. What point were you trying to make here?

[@mpls1982]

I dont know man, judging an entire fanbase based off a comment section is wild to me.

[@Cryomancer21]

My thoughts exactly, Finn is too traumatized by the internet + he's old and thinks in stereotypes

[@corytimmons1418]

Totally agree most ppl aren't on the internet all day all the time

[@mrfathed3129]

My hot take, I think most of the time people that complain about racism/sexism in metal do more damage than leaving it the same. How much shit that is let's face it kind of racist/sexist, is done to appease these people? I mean we can all think of some kind of shitty band that got propped up because they had a female singer. Or how many really awkward situations have you seen that were basically "I listen to this band with a black person, I'm one of the good white people".

[@zumatoobs]

Racism is a problem, in rap. They literally kills each other and rap about it 😂

[@ewww21]

As opposed to making metal songs about *wanting* to kill someone like a poser, right?

[@csm6701]

That is not what racism is.

[@dudeguy7711]

That's not racism my guy...

[@sequences8942]

There’s racism in rap, sure, but that’s not it. There’s essays on the topic, go check them out.

[@zumatoobs]

@@csm6701 watch a trap lore Ross video

[@JJSFC]

Fellow former stand-up wiper due to not knowing any better.

[@dougthomas8968]

Half of Metallica isn't white. Slayer is fronted by a not-white guy. Kid rocks drummer is a black woman. Korn...pretty diverse. Sepultura has had a black guy on vocals for 20yrs now...

[@Chill-mm4pn]

Yet people will still stare at you as a metal fan who isn't white. When I went to see Slayer most people were cool but I feel it's an age thing. Older guys like myself usually don't give a fuck but some 18 to 21 year old white boy is usually the one staring. It's just childish in my opinion. For context I'm a guy who's black. I mean that was 2019.

[@jbanne001]

Same. I'm a 41 year old metalhead who's a black guy and I know for a fact that metal isn't exactly "tolerant" of non whites overall. ​@@Chill-mm4pn

[@symptomofsouls]

Suffocation had a black drummer, You have Leo McClain who is one of the most talented drummers in the world, he's black. Kyle Anderson of Brand of Sacrifice, nasty deathcore vocalist, Tosin Abasi - who is Tosin Abasi, enough said.

[@zumatoobs]

@@jbanne001how isn’t metal tolerant. Name one song that supports your theory 😂

[@markot8927]

Deftones classic lineup, only Abe is white, Stef half-white/half-Mexican, Chino half-Mexican/ half-Mexican-Chinese, Chi half-Chinese/half-white, Frank is Cuban if I'm not mistaken, anyways def. latino, and even Sergio is latino . How's that for diversity?

[@guipontes7526]

The ideia of a grown ass adult standing up to wipe is insane. You make it when you're a toddler and your mom cleans you up.

[@bamafencer12]

I'm a minority woman and there is a little racism in rock. I go see indie, local metal, prog rock, and even indie country so I've seen many many shows. Anytime I go to show, I will 100% get stares. It is what it is.. I love the music, but sometimes people sucks. This doesn't include the other stuff that has happened to me. Now the band members are awesome. I do think music fans should be more open minded and not gawk at nonwhite fans.

[@D91Mart]

Have you ever considered they are just surprised that you're there and has nothing to do with not wanting you there?

[@Thomas_McCoy]

What race are you?

[@bamafencer12]

@@D91Mart But why be surprised though? I'm history nerd when it comes to music and last I checked the foundation of blues, rock, and jazz has come from black people. It shouldn't be a "shock" that a music fan that happens to be black be at an acid jazz ensemble.

[@D91Mart]

@@bamafencer12 it might be surprising because its absolutely a fact that there are less black people that like metal. Yes black people essentially led to the invention of rock music, but it's obviously clear there are just not as into it as white people are. Why Is that? my best guess is lack of exposure to this style of music maybe. 🤷‍♂️ (also just to add I think all people should feel welcome to be metal fans)

[@D91Mart]

@@bamafencer12 people are surprised when they see things that are unexpected. When you go to metal shows and see mostly white people all the time it might be surprising if a black person is there, it doesn't mean they are not happy you're there it's just something they are not used to see. I like to mountain bike and snowboard I have never seen a black person do either sport, I would be surprised if I saw that.

[@johnb.shakoor2352]

Kind of like homophobia in the rap community?

[@MekareP]

I feel like the bands are more open and diverse than they used to be. But I feel like the fanbase is a 50/50 grab bag of which way they identify. I think it will largely also depend on the location of them too. If you only go to music shows in large cities and never in a smaller one in the midwest your perception is going to be much different. When we saw A7X in Chicago, the amount of women there was really freaking cool. THEN when we went to the closer to home show in Moline, IL it was mostly dudes. Tinley Park in Chicago is only 2.5 hours away but it makes a huge difference.

[@bamafencer12]

Very true, I see way more women getting down more these days. I love it!

[@mattdeinken6580]

I love metal punk and rap and I'm a 40 year old male with asperger's

[@elchicharron9503]

We don't need diversity in the scene, we need a diversity of scenes.

[@TaxinGigs]

Very well said

[@rochat]

I agree with you on Green Day and I'd like to add that I believe their Dookie follow-up, "Insomniac" is just as good if not better IMO.

[@ivansjunk]

My personal opinion is that your over all thoughts on unconscious bias is plain old stupid. We consume what we’re given… the scene is 90% straight white men… so that is what we primarily listen to. That is not an indication there is a bias… it’s what we have. Personally, I could give a shit what people look like or what their preferences are… good music is plain old good music. I love you Finn, you’re usually very insightful, this take was shallow and not well thought out.

[@Jasonmakesvideo]

i think he just made you go on the defensive. his point is legit. note the word "unconscious"

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

sexism is a huge problem in metal though

[@jovanreid6782]

Nah, this happens on KZbin too. There are White people who never watch algorithm recommended videos by Black content creators of a particular subject that highly interests them, meanwhile they'll watch videos made by the Black content creator's White counterparts about the same exact subject. A Black content creator named F.D Signifier talks about this in one of his videos.

[@johandrytenias1725]

"We consume what we're given", that creates the unconscious bias. There's the other 10% that are not straight white men, but then if one has a female singer suddenly is a "female fronted metal band" and you unconsciously ask yourself for atleast a split os a second if you want to listen to that band, you question if it's going to be as heavy, the music has to be twice as great to justify its place in your album collection. If a band has a black frontman, you unconsciously ask yourself if is going to have urban elements in the sound, or if a middle-estern band is going to have middle-eastern style in their sound, or what if there's a band whose members are all openly gay and flamboyant, how would they sound? And all of these band could be just regular old school death metal bands, but you wouldn't know that unless you're willing to give them a chance and listen to them, you do because you're open minded and you're not a bigot, but that doesn't mean you're not bias, because if it was just a band made of 4 white dudes you don't have to be "willing to give them a chance", you just do, knowing what to expect, and then it's just about the quality of the music. Sometimes unconscious racism lies in that sense of otherness.

[@zacharybloom5871]

It’s almost as though people are over exaggerating social ills to make a profit or gain clout. Weird.

[@leftymcnally6913]

Chrissie Hyndes had a great quote about why bands eventually get more and more technical as they get older, and it simply came down to "the more you practice, the better, and more technical you get". I'm paraphrasing of course

[@mikek3658]

I would love to see an interview with Fantastic Negrito. He's an amazing musician and song-writer. Very bluesy. "All Up in My Space" and "How Long" are good starting points to those who are interested.

[@cthulhukc7six6six37]

I'm a little older than our wonderful host. I have an eclectic taste in music, art, and various medias. There's something beautiful about being in front of a speaker stack and having your soul pummeled by Alex Webster or Les Claypool.

[@nogurusmind]

What do you think of Idles? They made me love music again during the pandemic and keep putting out great albums. Listen to Brutalism and Joy as an Act of Resistance as intros to them if you are unfamiliar.

[@particlejim]

Brutalism and JAAAOR are both excellent albums, not a fan of their other albums though, I feel like they fell off hard

[@coltgosney944]

The problem with saying that there’s only a few racists or bigots in the scene, is that it still dismisses that it’s still an big issue. Especially on social media where people can show their true colors. Ronnie Radke still has a huge fan base as well as makes transphobic statements. That influence will definitely go into his fan base and as a result other fanbases. That’s one of many artists. Also bands with toxic fan bases like FFDP bring in that far right conservative crowd into the metal scene (nothing against conservatives for I have many friends who are right winged). The problem is that when bands make provocative bigoted statements, there are still thousands of people who agree with it. It becomes real damaging really quickly, and I can imagine it definitely makes people not want to listen to metal. That’s just my thoughts though.

[@cheesebuger13]

As an autstic man that's 100% correct, I love metal and punk. However, I do feel like my mental health is improving so there is some loss in interest in the non-popular stuff.

[@HappinessDIY]

Correction: Dre 310 would be a rapper from Long Beach (310 area code), not Bay Area! (I know it is 562 now, but it was 310 in the 90s).

[@purehatred2850]

Is racism a problem in rap and country and others styles. If you say no then your theory is BS. People like what music they like. They are racist, in super small number, in every genre of music. I don't think rock and metal is worse than other genres, of course I am not hanging out in the comments sections looking form it. Plus people say things just to be mean because of the anonymity of online. New Subject. I am over 50 and listen to IA and many of the new extreme deathcore bands. AI writes the most disgusting and disturbing lyrics on purpose. How many take their lyrics serious? Not many. Yes seing people freak out about their videos is funny. I like the extreme music. I am not a lyric guy so I don't get into the dark lyrics or any lyrics. Deathcore is interesting because the vocals are a cool instrument. Obviously some do it better than others. Bottom line is I don't think all people who listen to extreme music have problems.

[@AmiliaCaraMia]

Ask hip hop artists what they think of having more trans or gay rappers in their community. Or how about more Jews who totally didn't steal everything from other groups. According to some hip hop artists.

[@MadameDanteInferno]

Racism and prejudice are not interchangeable nor are they synonyms. So all the words you typed is moot. For context if I go to rap concert I don't see white supremacists flags while waiting in the parking. But a metal without fail at least 10 but it is actually a whole lot more.

[@zumatoobs]

Rap culture is pathetic

[@purehatred2850]

@MadameDanteInferno white supremacist flag? You talking about the confederate flag?

[@zumatoobs]

@@MadameDanteInferno yes, but people actually get shot and killed at rap shows 😂

[@brocklastname6682]

The answer is "no" Next question.

[@mcsmoothie7052]

So if you don’t have the taste of a 19 yr old girl on TikTok, you’re an angry incel? . Ok. Got it.

[@adamreinhardt9135]

Loved the take on subconscious bias in the rock and metal scene. I think you’re spot on. Every scene of music is becoming more diverse. I recently put together a Spotify playlist of modern metal/metalcore, and without even trying I found that a surprising numbers of the bands I picked had women and POC in them. And the fan base for rock and metal is becoming increasingly more diverse as well. Which is awesome. Rock n’ roll, punk, and metal are for everyone, not just white dudes.

[@jariemonah]

No time for this Finn. 4.8 magnitude earthquake just hit New Jersey and my paper fell off my desk.

[@benkendall5562]

Since working on my mental health I have gradually started to listen to more catchy/simple music or music which prioritises rhythm. I actually allow myself to enjoy and get into the vibe of a song rather than sit and analyse every note for ages

[@NuMetalfan1996]

@benkendall5562. Your personality and mental health dictates what you like listening to. Most people who are doing well and have good social skills and social lives tend to listen to PoP or Dance Top 40 music of their era, or listen to genres like Indie or PoP Punk. Most people who are not doing well and have poor social skills tend to listen to angry or aggressive forms of music, like Hard Rock, Metal or Hardcore. Obviously there will be exceptions as everyone is different, but most of the time it is that way. PoP/Top 40 Dance Hip Hop Indie PoP Punk Soft Rock Those genres are on the Happy/Doing Well/have good Social Skills side of the scale. But genres like Hard Rock Grunge/Butt Rock Nu-Metal/Alternative Metal Traditional Metal Extreme Metal Metalcore/Deathcore Emo/Post Hardcore Hardcore Those genres tend to be on the not doing well/Poor Social Skills/going through bad mental health side of the scale.

[@fu102]

Wait, so you say yourself that gay/female dominates pop....and brushed past it like its ok, and then bashed metal that it needs more gay/females? Uh, why doesn't pop "need" more "angry straight white men" then? Both are ok to be their own entity.

[@shaunlafountain7189]

Unfortunately i have to say this... just because i get old doesnt mean im going to completely abandon my taste in music and just because some hot chicks like some Justin Bieber doesn't mean im going to rush out and embrace some Justin Bieber... i also look exactly like that Wojak incel in that picture 😂

[@michaelward5370]

I personally think that Greenday had a run of 3 amazing albums in the 90s with Kerplunk, Dookie and Insomniac!!

[@bigsmooshflopdong33]

Okay okay I get it. I'm an angry autistic person, lol.

[@t045tSKT]

I dont hate cod because of women finn. I hate cod because it's a piece of shit game that gives gamers a bad name.

[@stuartwinter2758]

I got into metal as an anti authority, fuck everything, if your into pop culture you suck kind thing. Metal had balls. Same with gangsta rap. As a white man in my 40s I now still listen to this stuf as not only a nostalgia thing but as an analytical listener. I can definitely say I am very very picky about what new music I choose to listen to. It has to either have a great creative or historic story or message or come from the heart. Listing to lyrics that are just word salad is a big turn off.

[@AduderReviews]

I've never even heard of such a thing as to stand while wiping. Absolute freak show!

[@FreshMetal80]

People that stand to wipe also drop their pants to their ankles and lift their shirt to their chest to take a piss.

[@AduderReviews]

@@FreshMetal80 wtf!

[@pinkfreud62]

I'm confused. I came to hear about racism ruining metal & all I'm hearing about is that crappy punk wannabe group Green Day.

[@danielstarr9037]

One part of the unconscious bias thing that I’m not sure I’ve heard you address, but what I feel like may be a huge part, is enjoying music that makes you feel masculine, or that you identified as masculine during your teen years when you began understanding masculinity.

[@drgetwrekt869]

Varg isn't ruining anything. His first 3 albums are masterpieces. Can't say the same of the other two.

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

Anyone but hurt or oddly defensive about this title definitely wipes back to front and blames being single on "these new women"

[@erickghoul174]

Or wipes standing

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

@@erickghoul174 true lol

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

I mean IDK about front or back but I do know about standing.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

​@@erickghoul174Bingo 😎👌

[@spark300c]

I am center right rocker. I think racism is worst in metal. Like have my bias but I willing to listen to good pop punk by non whites.

[@D-Ross86]

The 1st singer for bad wolves is super conservative. That's why he was kicked out.

[@fu102]

How very "diverse and inclusive" of them.

[@nananoodle5020]

@@fu102well conservative in a bad way

[@vladharanich]

Ah actually yes, I've been listening a lot to black/death metal bands like Cannibal Corpse, Necrophagist, Deicide, Mayhem, and many other disturbing stuff when I was a teenager. Now I wouldn't listen to that stuff, I'd rather be in silence.

[@MikeHoncho610]

So what’s your take on rap and hip hop? There is plenty of racial bias against whites and other races within that genre

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

This is whataboutism

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

​@@FinnMckentyPRMBA this is not an answer

[@Owlr4ider]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA No, it's because their racism is aimed against white people and you can't be racist against white people, am I right...? Oh and I forgot, because there are no Nazi Rap/Hip Hop bands.

[@integrity101]

​@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Whataboutism isnt a thing. It's called a conversation.