RAD2x: HDMI Cable for the Nintendo Multi-Out

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@klausschneider9963
@klausschneider9963 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how Nintendo differed the Multi-AV in different locations. And even more to see how the RAD2x handles this.. With every video you do about this tiny box, I'm more surprised by this little box. And Ireally apprechiate the konw-hor you're sharing.
@stephenjones5079
@stephenjones5079 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video. Many thanks for taking the time to do this.
@kelvsyc8676
@kelvsyc8676 4 жыл бұрын
I still would have paid more for a RAD2x that tapped S-Video signals if no RGB signals were found. That said, it is true that it serves a very niche use case, and that the N64 is known for good composite hardware. The EON Super 64 (or, as it is known in some circles, the "bootleg RetroTINK") is still somewhat competitive in that space if you really need a Nintendo multi-out to HDMI for those niche use cases.
@Montymole_360
@Montymole_360 4 жыл бұрын
I would say keep in mind that they're made in the UK &, as he says in the video, our N64s don't support S-Video. It wouldn't make sense to introduce a feature that would cause compatibility issues in the region they're actually made in! Although, if there was enough interest in it, it might be an idea for them to make a secondary model that does include it
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 4 жыл бұрын
The NTSC Gamecube is why I play all of my Gamecube games on my Wii with an HDMI adapter. The RAD2x is fantastic for the other consoles though. I'm getting mine this week!
@redeemer5628
@redeemer5628 3 жыл бұрын
Such an awesome product. Still really wish it supported S-Video.
@giacomovalenti8619
@giacomovalenti8619 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, there is a difference in the composite video cables between PAL and NTSC regions, a resistor which in one case it's in the console (NTSC), in the other must be in the cable (PAL). If you mix them, video can be either too bright or too dark. On some televisions (even CRTs) is less noticeable than others.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Well, either way, this cable will work correctly with all regions.
@giacomovalenti8619
@giacomovalenti8619 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB I guess Mike Chi took that into account, as well as the different RGB circuit that is present in PAL SNESes, most of them but not all of them... what a mess.
@weirdproq
@weirdproq 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, KZbin has labeled chapters now on videos?! I love it!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, just add timestamps and also add "00:00" as the first to activate it. Someone in the comments taught me that :)
@kdkseven
@kdkseven 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Apparently, they're pretty popular- they're always out of stock.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand parts are currently hard to source and demand is still pretty high. Its best to follow RetroGamingCablesUK on twitter for updates on available stock.
@atomiswave1971
@atomiswave1971 4 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is for most people is that RGC that supply these cables have nothing to do with modders. I'm in the UK and there isn't many professional grade modders out here. If they are professional they charge extortionate prices without including shipping. I found an N64 pre modded for £50 and I haven't been able to check it out since last night I waited until 1am for the RGC website to actually work and then went to sleep, all sold out by morning. Number 1, that time zone is better for USA citizens, not UK citizens. I guess quite a few USA citizens preordered a crap ton. Thanks Robert.
@zxk-iy4vn
@zxk-iy4vn 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. BTW did I miss the giveaway this week end ??
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, I launched the giveaway video at the same time as this one...because it's for RAD2x cables :)
@davidoli
@davidoli 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, but i'm really hoping we see some HDMI solutions for PS1/2 and Wii since those are the ones that lack the most attention from what i've seen.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Hyperkin's wii hdmi cable is relatively harmless. If it were any other cable of their's i sure as shit wouldnt suggest buying it but the wii one seems to just be straight 480p. No upscaling, stretching, or incorrect colors like all the others.
@davidoli
@davidoli 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks It's just a component to hdmi converter, same as those Wii2HDMI adapters. I have one of these but i wish there was a better solution with some kind of improvement or maybe upscaling. We used to have WiiDual but it was way too expensive. I don't understand why there's so much effort on getting the best image quality out of the gamecube instead of the wii, since it practically made the gamecube obsolete imo.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidoli I'm guessing because of the gameboy player and swiss.
@mansen5485
@mansen5485 4 жыл бұрын
Good video with good solutions 👍🏼 but i love my ossc for mega drive and SNES
@wasisjetztwieder
@wasisjetztwieder 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody knows a competent answer so far....: I have a PAL N64 with Tim Wortington RGB Mod and a Everdrive64 X7. That goes into the RAD2x cable with smoothing on and then in the mClassic. PAL Games work fine, the mClassic scales the 576p/50Hz from the RAD2x Cable to 1080p. NTSC Games goes only pass through via mClassic, the Signal remains in all modes of the mClassic only 480p/60Hz. I still had the option to buy a good RGB cable and then use the OSSC, but I love the combination of Smoothing mClassic plus Smoothing RAD2x. Sorry for my bad English, greetings from a German Guy!
@evaleet2414
@evaleet2414 3 жыл бұрын
Im planning on buying this and add to it the mclassic and the gaming mcable, would this give me the ultimate, snes, wii, ps3 and n64 image possible on 1080p and 4K tv's?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for the "ultimate" setup, check out the RetroTINK 5x: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKixo6R_n911l6M
@evaleet2414
@evaleet2414 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB would you say the image from the retrotink 5x is better on snes and n64 than the rad2x? I would also add an mclassic and mcable to either of them since those I already got.
@methamphetamelon
@methamphetamelon 4 жыл бұрын
So I see they have RAD2x models for many consoles, and it appears to be the exact same unit, just with a different non-interchangeable pigtail. Makes this mod more expensive than others if you want it for multiple consoles. Wonder how difficult it would be to map the internal pinout the pigtails connect to and create a multi-console pigtail so you can just buy one and use it across your collection?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Or...just buy a RetroTINK product.
@methamphetamelon
@methamphetamelon 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you could do that, but then you don't get the nifty auto-detected input, smaller footprint, etc. More cable mess to deal with. Plus you don't get the fun of figuring out how it works and then making it do what you want.
@sheep83
@sheep83 4 жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy, but isn't the best way to play GC games through a Wii with an official component cable? Mine looks frikking awesome.
@RonkeyRong
@RonkeyRong 4 жыл бұрын
Cable sounds great but I can't even order one cause their disclaimer drop down box isn't giving an "agree" option
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no clue what that was about. Doesnt matter now because it sold out within an hour and a half.
@luiswhisky
@luiswhisky 4 жыл бұрын
I think is because it’s sold out; I receive the email get to the store manage to put one in the cart (both options available) then start browsing the store and even I put check out option it was sold out 😣 the option to put another one was gone on the disclaimer
@BoukeNL
@BoukeNL 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@GamingandMusicwithGuy
@GamingandMusicwithGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob! I hope this comment reaches you, but I did have a question on where I could go from here to improve the quality of my Nintendo 64 setup. I have a chain of quality S-Video cables > RetroTink 2x > mClassic > 4K TV. (I run multiple consoles) Since UltraHDMI is non-existent right now, is there any benefit to pursuing RGB or anything else in my chain to improve the quality? I know I've heard you mention that the jump from S-Video to RGB is not as prominent as Composite to S-Video, so I wasn't sure if there were any ideas that could make things a little better either in the chain or just holding out for UltraHDMI. Your expertise is greatly appreciated!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion: What you have is awesome and you should leave it as-is for now. While you will get a jump in performance doing an RGB mod and using some HD Retrovision cables into the TINK2x, I think you might want to wait for an eventual UltraHDMI installation, as that will be a bigger jump. Just my opinion though!
@GamingandMusicwithGuy
@GamingandMusicwithGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thank you so much for your reply! Hopefully Ultra HDMI makes its way back around soon! It's at the top of my wishlist!
@ultraspinalki11
@ultraspinalki11 2 жыл бұрын
"Rad2x via composite video" How does that work exactly? Is there a button/switch on the Rad2x that activates composite video, a setting on the TV or is that simply plugging the Rad2x into the back of an unmodified N64?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 2 жыл бұрын
It auto-detects if RGB is available. If it is, it switches to that. If RGB isn't detected, it uses composite video. Check out the launch video for more details: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqqoaWiFe6yEpq8
@ultraspinalki11
@ultraspinalki11 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB thank you for such a quick response!
@Moshugaani
@Moshugaani 4 жыл бұрын
I would order one if it was in stock! :
@michaeldemers2716
@michaeldemers2716 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get my Super Famicom to work with it. I haven't tried my N64 because I need a game but my NES Toploader works great and my Gamecube systems work as well. I just get rainbow stripes with the SFC.
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 4 жыл бұрын
Think I'll be going this route. I want the UltraHDMI mod, but I won't send my console to some rando to mod when I have the tools and scope right here at home. They make it out to be _sooo_ hard. It's just a flat flex bridged to the quad flat pack RCP with its massive .5mm pitch leads. I can do that drunk lol
@thecygnusserket
@thecygnusserket 4 жыл бұрын
Damn... that's like 14 sticks of hot glue and 100 feet of wire in that poor NES at 6:00. I'd love to see Voultar's reaction to that LMAO
@alankebab2187
@alankebab2187 4 жыл бұрын
Meth-head modders
@Neor3b3l
@Neor3b3l 4 жыл бұрын
Did you try the Nintendo RAD2X on The NTSC Region Gamecube GBA player? Just wondering if it works and is not terrible
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, works fine. It's composite video, so it's not as clear as the RGB output from the PAL version, but it'll definitely work and be zero lag. If your GC has a digital port, definitely look into a Carby instead though. Links should be in the description.
@CaptainsVelexesHD
@CaptainsVelexesHD 4 жыл бұрын
Soo, you can use the Rad2x with every SNES and with every N64 or what N64 consoles are not compatible?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
None. Every single N64 is compatible.
@CaptainsVelexesHD
@CaptainsVelexesHD 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Okay thank you! But RGB modded N64 consoles have better graphics, am I right?
@CaptainsVelexesHD
@CaptainsVelexesHD 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Can you combine the RAD2x with the mClassic?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainsVelexesHD You can. I think you need a mini hdmi to hdmi adapter though since the rad2x has a mini hdmi port.
@frankbizzoco1954
@frankbizzoco1954 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative. So I have a Retrotink 2x pro with s video cables. I use them on my snes and n64. I am still not so satisfied with the picture on the n64. I was looking at the HD Retrovision component cables to use with the snes, but I know that n64 needs a rgb mod to use them. I am aware that the retrotink 2x does not support RGB, but the rad2x does, even though Mike Chi collaborated on the rad2x. So I guess what my question is would it be better in your opinion to get the hd retrovision snes cables and use with my retrotink, or go for the rad2x? I do plan on rgb modding my N64 because ut is compatible with the "simple" solution mod. It just looks SO bad on hdtvs, I need to do something. BTW that CARBY is so damn awesome for the gamecube. Metal Jesus sold me on that lol.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion RGB isn't a huge jump in quality from S-Video on the n64. Have you turned on the smoothing filter? That was by far the biggest "upgrade" for me. As for RAD2x vs RetroTINK pro: It all depends on how many analog-outputting consoles you're trying to connect. If it's just a SNES and N64, the RAD2x is much cheaper and you can use it on both. If you have other consoles as well, getting one scaler and swapping cables for each is better. Just let your wallet decide that one :)
@bsully1215
@bsully1215 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob (@RetroRGB)! I recently modded my N64 with viletim's RGB mod and had two questions for you now that I've received a RAD2X today. 1) Is there any benefit to enabling de-blur through the RGB board when the RAD2X has a smoothing option? 2) Is it worth flashing the board with borti4938's N64RGB firmware to use the 15-bit mode together with the RAD2X?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Honestly, it's all preference. If you have time, try all combinations and see what you like best.
@Moi55329
@Moi55329 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, good video. Does the Rad2x cable allow 480p on gamecube like the gcplug? What the differences between the both?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
It doesnt accept 480p as an input, only as an output resolution. So essentially itll be 480i bob deinterlaced to 480p. You wouldnt get progressive scan out of your gamecube using the rad2x like you would with a gcvideo adapter. I'd recommend getting a Carby or Prism adapter instead assuming your gamecube has the digital out port on that back. If not then a retrotink2x mini with a quality s-video cable would be the next best option.
@Blazer-eh3ng
@Blazer-eh3ng 4 жыл бұрын
been looking at another S-video multi-out for my setup...just tired of switch between SNES, N64, and NGC would any on eBay be considered shielded?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely not. Check the links in the description.
@infinityeight8705
@infinityeight8705 4 жыл бұрын
I'm from the UK were the rad2x is made and sold and I can't even get one! (Retro gaming cables)
@exeldude823
@exeldude823 4 жыл бұрын
@RetroRGB Can you guys make a comparison between the retro tink and the RAD 2X because I don’t know which one to get. Or at least which one should I get?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
They're identical in quality: Both were designed by the same person and use the same chips. Get whichever fits your needs the best.
@exeldude823
@exeldude823 4 жыл бұрын
RetroRGB thanks 😊 🙏
@Roshenbo
@Roshenbo 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Im a newby here, so if you've discussed this somewhere. I apologize upfront. I recently came across two OEM Nintendo S-Video cables that are DIFFERENT. (One has a significantly thicker/beefy-er cable.) and wss wondering if you (Bob) or anyone else has any info or knowledge of these 2 separate products. Im looking into getting my N64 hooked up to my modern TV, and IMO want to go the route of the Retrotink 2x pro. I just need to know WHICH s-video cable is better. Obviously, the thicker cable one, has better shielding. But still wanted to know if there's really that big of a difference between the two s-video cables, or should I just buy another high quality s-video cable & avoid the Nintendo ones all together. ANY information or help would be GREATLY appreciated! I hope EVERYONE has a great day!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, I don't remember seeing different types of official Nintendo cables. I think the one from Insurrection Industries is all you'd need though...you certainly wouldn't need to spend a lot on "official" Nintendo ones: insurrectionindustries.com/product/nintendo-s-video/
@Roshenbo
@Roshenbo 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB thanks for the reply! Those are actually the cables I've been drooling over! lol (Insurrection) Those Nintendo cables are a bit pricey. Certainly glad Im not gona be spending the $130 asking price on eBay for that fatter Nintendo cable. Im going w/ the Insurrection cable. Thank you again! 🤘😎👍
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I have a 1 chip SNES and usually run s-video to a CRT but that looks really clean on HDMI. How does this handle games that switch between 240p and 480i?
@natalioromanelli5613
@natalioromanelli5613 4 жыл бұрын
Jackson MEGADETH RIP OMG
@thomasandrews9355
@thomasandrews9355 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how hard it would be to make this work with an Amiga...Being it's RGB
@Matt-gh2zm
@Matt-gh2zm 4 жыл бұрын
Is there some equivalent that works with the Saturn?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gai7e4qhoMitgc0
@fourmula4812
@fourmula4812 4 жыл бұрын
neat
@Max_The_Pog
@Max_The_Pog 3 жыл бұрын
Mario 64 with smoothness is mario 3D all stars with blj
@JeremyKingTech
@JeremyKingTech 4 жыл бұрын
5:59 *W T F !!!!* How did this happen? I've got to hear this story!
@fluffisaurus7090
@fluffisaurus7090 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s from a self described “pro” modder from EBay who is notorious for terrible mod work like that. Voultar has many videos on his channel fixing these mods, I highly recommend you watch them. You will seriously be horny afterwards, he does such a good job doing these mods.
@pdraggy
@pdraggy 4 жыл бұрын
Is RGB and component the same thing?
@yemepujols9294
@yemepujols9294 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
No, but most of these devices will convert rgb to component or vice versa. Considering component is more widely accepted as an input on tvs in the states.
@Devo_gx
@Devo_gx 4 жыл бұрын
That saturation though......really hoping it’s just the camera being pointed at the TV. Way too saturated!
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be this saturated. Probably just the capture device used. Results should be identical to that of the retrotink2x.
@Fonz128
@Fonz128 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a nerdy geek! ;P Gamers unite!!
@TheA_Gamer554
@TheA_Gamer554 4 жыл бұрын
well that was fast xd
@Mod_In_France
@Mod_In_France 4 жыл бұрын
Boring comment : "Technically the first ever Multiout produced by Nintendo was on the French NES. It's almost exactly the same used later on the the SNES."
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, you're 100% correct, but it was a different style multi-out than the SNES. I have one here :)
@EmoKillsBest
@EmoKillsBest 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame the RAD2x cables are NEVER in stock. I signed up months ago for "in stock" notices but all I get is spam from them. Been trying to buy for months and haven't had any luck.
@CloudMcRip
@CloudMcRip 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@Random.Walker.
@Random.Walker. 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait OSSC Pro. - A secondary video output (e.g. VGA) module for connecting to CRTs - Latency/input lag tester interface module, similar to the Time Sleuth - A game controller port module - Pure line multiplication - The lag free scaling that OSSC is famous for - Adaptive line multiplication - Full frame buffer
@tyler6644
@tyler6644 4 жыл бұрын
drakkon is a king troll
@helios44m-42
@helios44m-42 4 жыл бұрын
A REAL QUESTION : Where is the RAD2x for Sony PlayStation 2 ???
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2GupJ5vj9eolaM
@helios44m-42
@helios44m-42 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thank You ! I hope the cable will be back in stock soon !
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@helios44m-42 Its back in stock at the moment but only a few are available. Might wanna act fast. www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/RAD2X-CABLES/SONY-PLAYSTATION-HD-RAD2X-CABLE
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 4 жыл бұрын
Sold Out already! :(
@osiris369
@osiris369 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Wii had a Multiout also🤔
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
It does, but it's a completely different size and shape, so SNES cables aren't compatible.
@Sparky400
@Sparky400 4 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would they not use full size HDMI? It's not egsactly small.
@luiswhisky
@luiswhisky 4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere there is some kind of license you need to pay to use hdmi ports so they use mini hdmi as a way to get around it
@redavatar
@redavatar 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I originally wanted better and better picture quality when LCD TVs came along and now I discover I hate the sharp pixelated look because it's not how the games were designed to look like. Playing it on an original CRT TV just looks better and I end up just emulating the consoles using CRT filters just to get closer to the original look.
@TheDarkmacFR
@TheDarkmacFR 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the website went down at 5pm exactly...
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 4 жыл бұрын
Oh you need an RGB system mod to get the best out of it? I’ll just stick to a retrotink instead of buying one of these, then.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
No, not at all. Did you even watch the video?
@845H1R
@845H1R 4 жыл бұрын
£50?? Yeah right!
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 4 жыл бұрын
I would really love to know why the modding community is always using mini-HDMI. I'm sure they have a good reason since they keep doing it, but from an end user standpoint I'd rather have full size HDMI so I don't have to buy new cables or adapters at all.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 4 жыл бұрын
10:21 - Now that's what I like to see 👀
@nubianprincessqueenofsaba2342
@nubianprincessqueenofsaba2342 4 жыл бұрын
Nice sold out again.. I just tried to get one a view hours ago and the shop was not available after that sold out again.. maybe they should put it up firsg if the have enough amount that eveybod can get one.. I am fucking pissed..
@nostalgiaflipnfix
@nostalgiaflipnfix 4 жыл бұрын
😳 that “professional” NES RGB mod
@iandowall153
@iandowall153 4 жыл бұрын
Horrifying, I hope that is just hot glue and not epoxy otherwise that board is a goner.
@jeff15
@jeff15 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, never seen that before. That should be illegal. Lol
@Nitroxity
@Nitroxity 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like someone had a bit too much fun while they were taking a break from modding and accidentally came all over the board.
@AndehX
@AndehX 4 жыл бұрын
That's "Drakon's" work haha. and yes, it's hot glue.
@BBfanfun
@BBfanfun 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndehX Ah, yes , the infamous "Drakon Mod" signature
@Daily_Gaming
@Daily_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you mentioning ways that this will work on PAL consoles !! Great video, super informative 👍🏻
@johnwhite8985
@johnwhite8985 3 жыл бұрын
isnt this rad2x working on pal consoles out of the box?
@clutchtitan1402
@clutchtitan1402 4 жыл бұрын
I already own a Carby so I considered skipping the Gamecube section, but when I heard "Cover of Big Blue" playing I had to stay and watch the whole thing. Also great info for the N64 part, that's what I was waiting for!
@Tom-qo4mz
@Tom-qo4mz 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any point/need to go for a carby if I could get this and have it work w/my N64 and GC?
@fluffisaurus7090
@fluffisaurus7090 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-qo4mz Get the Carby, native 480p is worth the money even if you get the Rad 2x for your N64. It will only detect composite (from NTSC GameCubes) and do a flickery bob de-interlace, so a rock solid native 480p signal will look much better.
@Tom-qo4mz
@Tom-qo4mz 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffisaurus7090 ty for reply bud but i ended up going full on oldskool n snabbed a 27in triniton crt B)
@chatters7969
@chatters7969 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I feel I’m very lucky being in the UK and being able to run most of my consoles RGB via the SCART lead into my plasma. The image quality is so much better than composite. Interestingly my PAL GameCube which is chipped and Swiss modded only as an multi AV out as they dropped the digital out in later models so again this device might benefit me for this console Also I sold my PAL N64 and bought a Japanese NTSC N64 which is modded to run RGB via the Scart and I’m using an everdrive cart switched to NTSC mode. I feel this device might benefit the format I’m running N64 in. I’ve toyed with the slightly cheaper hyperkin cable but this device seems for flexible.
@sb6482
@sb6482 4 жыл бұрын
i respectively disagree about n64 s-video. I upgraded my composite cable to a specific svideo cable for PAL. I use a Sony Trinitron sidescreen CRT....and the difference is huge. any text is much clearer and the edges of objects/polygons are more stable, have no crawl and the colours are deeper and more lush.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 жыл бұрын
Apples & oranges: S-Video vs Composite on a CRT is a completely different scenario than scaling either signal on a 4K flat-panel.
@sb6482
@sb6482 4 жыл бұрын
fair enough! is there a technical reason why the cable could not interpret svideo signal from the n64 as default rather than composite/rgb. most n64s seem to have svideo
@gametourny4ever627
@gametourny4ever627 4 жыл бұрын
I am with you. I have the Purple Monster S Video cable and that on my CRT looks great. I do the same with my Snes with Hd Retrovision Component Cables.
@johnwhite8985
@johnwhite8985 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB so is composite or svideo better with the rad2x? And does the rad2x work with any pal n64 console out of the box?
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwhite8985 The RAD2X works with any N64 console out of the box, regardless of region.
@agizm0
@agizm0 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video about the Rad2x. I like how it can auto select the signal source without user input. I wish the RetroTink 2x could do that (unless I'm mistaken).
@Olie956
@Olie956 4 жыл бұрын
5:58 - What... The... F***....
@brandonkick
@brandonkick 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting.... Seems most nintendo consoles even up as far as the gamecube /wii did some really good composite video in general. The SNES mini via composite looks, to me, about 80% as good as the SNES mini via RGB. The N64... due to the super soft graphics in most games, I struggle to much a difference at all between a composite signal and RGB signal on that machine. I paused the video in several places to look at the Mario Kart 64 footage.... composite looks to me like it's 90-95 percent as good as the RGB signal. The clear standout is the AV Famicom. The color pallet especially sees major improvement on the RGB modded version. For the most part, I have no problem using standard, stock, composite display on the older nintendo consoles. The real offender is the sega genesis... that composite signal was HORRIBLE. Though, I can still enjoy the system on a modern flat panel TV (using some cheap junko AV cables) and my experience wasn't ruined at all by the "low quality" video. I could pretty easily enjoy the rad2x cable for genesis though.... worthy of the addition.
@DoctorPoo
@DoctorPoo 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I'm sticking with OSSC for my setup but if I didn't have one, this would be a really good option!
@mrmaestrom
@mrmaestrom 4 жыл бұрын
I have an UltraHDMI-modded 64 I no longer use it because the mod broke after a couple of years of use. Too expensive to get a new UltraHDMI so I was super keen when RAD2X was announced. I preordered one when they first opened up and have had it for about 6 months now. My N64 has Tim Worthington's RGB mod and let me tell you it is freaking awesome with the RAD2X. It's not as razor sharp as UltraHDMI (that's so perfect it looks like you're running an emulator) but it gets like 80-90% of the way there and even with the RGB mod it was half the cost. Frankly, even if you can't get your console RGB modded and just have to use composite, it doesn't matter. This dongle is only US$60, that's almost pocket money for most people. Just do it.
@thund4c4t025
@thund4c4t025 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I have Tim's RGB board installed as well and I have the rad2x on preorder at the moment. Do you have deblur enabled on your n64? I'm assuming it would give you similar if not identical results to ultrahdmi.
@CaptainC0rk
@CaptainC0rk 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Genesis RAD2x cable just a few hours ago, I cant wait!!!
@PoohOnYou83
@PoohOnYou83 4 жыл бұрын
I have one for my SNES and my modded N64 and they are f*ing awesome! I did the Hi-Def NES mod and DCHDMI Mod. I also bought a RAD2X for my Genesis 2 and world of difference.
@DaveSimonH
@DaveSimonH 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the pricing on some of the other HDMI solutions out there, £48 seems cheap by comparison.
@MayorMori
@MayorMori 3 жыл бұрын
So tempted to get this for my PAL Gamecube. Can’t seem to find a Carby. How does this compare to the Kaico? Great video. Keep it up.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
I'd get a Prism...Kaico is a clone company, so please don't support them: bit.ly/retrobitprism There's also a really cool brace available for the Prism: www.retrorgb.com/gcvideo-support-brace.html
@MayorMori
@MayorMori 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB oh I see! Awesome, thank you for letting me know! I will look at the Prism. That brace will be very useful too. Thanks again for the in-depth videos.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@skibbles827
@skibbles827 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah great. Been waiting for forever to buy this and today the website crapped out the second you could buy it for like a half hour and now they are all gone. Awesome
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
Its not even the overwhelming demand crashing the site that i take issue with. Its the fact that you literally could not checkout because either they didnt remove the asterisks on the listings or the drop down box was missing the "yes" option so you could even add the cables to your cart. This prevented me from even checking out despite being there on time.
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks I stayed on it for 2 hours and saw later that on Twitter all were sold out already? Mine had been in the cart before the time even counted out so yeah I wasnt a happy camper🙁
@luiswhisky
@luiswhisky 4 жыл бұрын
CAPCOM784 same thing happen to me
@oldmanmillennial1980
@oldmanmillennial1980 3 жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree about the N64 composite and s-video quality difference. Playing on a crt N64 composite is a lot duller and the lower sharpness makes the N64 draw distance appear that much foggier.
@MaxaMillion711
@MaxaMillion711 4 жыл бұрын
After seeing how good the composite with smoothing looks on n64, I sold my Ultra HDMI modded unit. I prefer that look to the ultra sharp. Appreciate the time you put into this video. Great stuff.
@Ballowax
@Ballowax 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believed you did that
@nerdyneedsalife8315
@nerdyneedsalife8315 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ballowax People have different taste. I prefer Tim Worthington's RGB mod and the Ultra HDMI as they sharpen the pixel but I understand wanting that rounded yet flawed smoothing of S Video and Composite.
@johnwhite8985
@johnwhite8985 3 жыл бұрын
hi, can this rad2x used with s-video? I have an n64 with composite and with s-video cable. Want to play golden eye so badly and searching for the best solution with this rad2x. Can someone help me out?
@Ballowax
@Ballowax 3 жыл бұрын
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 oh that's fine but you know, the ultra HDMI is $300 and this man basically threw away his money
@Ballowax
@Ballowax 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwhite8985 wanna try out the retro tinx 2X classic at castlemania games
@joshuajacobson2102
@joshuajacobson2102 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone had Jitter issues with their SNES consoles? I am having some bad issues on Mario World and Zelda, multiple consoles, multiple cables. Thinking I need to get the dejitter mod... Thoughts?
@danieljerosch5602
@danieljerosch5602 4 жыл бұрын
damn that rust in peace flying V though!
@tiagomnm
@tiagomnm Жыл бұрын
With the 1chip SNES, it's not just pixels, the picture seems to have the correct gamma and much better colors.
@emerickscott
@emerickscott 6 ай бұрын
Voultar has done side by sides on the 2 chip, and concluded the 1 chip's gamma is too high and bright. his 2 chip mod will probably be the definitive when it is released this year.
@rdandes47
@rdandes47 4 жыл бұрын
I still love my retro tink 2x. He makes good quality stuff.
@MrDabrain75
@MrDabrain75 4 жыл бұрын
When looking at the site, this is apparently powered by retrotink. So, seeing as I have Svideo cables and retrotink 2, I still fit most of these consoles and get close to the quality.
@ThomasJohnBourne
@ThomasJohnBourne 4 жыл бұрын
MrDabrain75 to be honest, for 240p or 480i, s-video and component don’t look TOO different to me. Component has a bit more color depth in places sure, but unless you really want 480p from your GCN or PS2, s-video through a Tink pro is going to look really good.
@irencsak
@irencsak 4 жыл бұрын
Currently having trouble getting the links to work but I keep refreshing, the idea of this product sounds great for me since I'm looking for minimal fuss.
@stimie
@stimie 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like their site got the internet hug of death.
@irencsak
@irencsak 4 жыл бұрын
@@stimie By the time I could get in it showed being out of stock. Hopefully they'll get more soon.
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I tried for like 2 hours straight and even had it in the cart before time had run out and still nothing...
@skibbles827
@skibbles827 4 жыл бұрын
@@CAPCOM784 Yeah they are all gone
@nerdworld8211
@nerdworld8211 4 жыл бұрын
First time on your channel, you got a sub. Great in-depth research, thank you for your work.
@OniZenko
@OniZenko Жыл бұрын
Wish I didn't sell my NES and SNES all those years ago ughhh
@SNEStalgia
@SNEStalgia 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I am definitely going to get a RAD2x for my SNES!
@MrCed122
@MrCed122 4 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to have a S-Video compatible version of this just for the GameCube, I have one of the console without the Digital output and I just want to be able to capture it with a semi-decent quality. I guess I could also buy a Wii and use its Component output with a converter or a Wii2HDMI, that would probably be cheaper, or even hack my Wii U to play GC games, but... bleh, playing GC games on a Wii feels weird and I would prefer to use the original console.
@arcadeperfectreviews2653
@arcadeperfectreviews2653 4 жыл бұрын
I use the HD Retrovision wires on my SNES and RGB modded NES and N64 I also have GameCube component cables because I got lucky at GameStop 15 years ago. Would this be considered a better solution?
@dergrunepunkt
@dergrunepunkt 4 жыл бұрын
Great job putting this video together Bob
@UndedDisfunction
@UndedDisfunction 4 жыл бұрын
This is really great, well done!
@samueldiaz-pintomontoro4774
@samueldiaz-pintomontoro4774 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, any idea when this cable will be back in stock again?
@herrbauman
@herrbauman 4 ай бұрын
i know your comment is 3 years old ^^, but right now you can pre order it again (8.5.2024)
@samueldiaz-pintomontoro4774
@samueldiaz-pintomontoro4774 4 ай бұрын
@@herrbauman thank you :) I bought this couple of years ago
@TransKingFormers
@TransKingFormers 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks I was trying to get these cable for sega saturn and the site kept crashing or saying it suspended finally sometime later it said they were sold out and now its not even listed does anyone know if its worth getting Sega Saturn Component YPbPr cables?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
I dont believe the saturn cables were ever even in stock to begin with. I was there when the preorders started and when the site was fixed. At no point were the asterisks gone, you couldnt check out if they were in your cart.
@TransKingFormers
@TransKingFormers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks yeah man that sucks the site was all messed up for like a hour and once it was running well the saturn cables out of stock all of suddenly
@TransKingFormers
@TransKingFormers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks update as of right now its in stock and I just placed my order
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 жыл бұрын
@@TransKingFormers In stock? Or did you just place a preorder? Because retro gaming cables opened up preorders for the next batch of cables. Not for what they currently have.
@TransKingFormers
@TransKingFormers 4 жыл бұрын
@@ians_parks yeah when I saw stock I thought it was a instant purchase and yes it is a pre order that I did
@etienne__k
@etienne__k 4 жыл бұрын
This could be a good solution for my SNES (PAL) and maybe better as the framemeister for my N64 RBG (maybe less lag ?)
@gregoryreed8567
@gregoryreed8567 3 жыл бұрын
Bob, would it be fair to say that your commendable focus on the importance of lag to retro gaming, is partly why you don’t seem to be overly fond of the Framemeister? Granted, I’m a recent subscriber and have yet to watch many of your videos. I have viewed Coury and Try quite a bit and they seem like advocates for the FMeister right along with some other solutions you do seem excited about, like Rad2x, Retrotink and OSSC. Maybe I’m reading you incorrectly? And if my hunch is correct, that’s totally a defensible position in my mind. Any insight would be welcome and keep up the great work. I subscribe to your channel because I am in search of precise and accurate information regarding the best solutions for retro gaming; isn’t that the point, after all?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Well, there's a few things. First and foremost, when it was released in 2011, I'd consider it nothing less than amazing. BUT, we now have solutions far cheaper, with no lag, so there's no reason to spend so much money on a device that no longer justifies it's high price tag. So, nothing but love and respect for what the Framemeister accomplished, but ever since the RetroTINK and OSSC have become available, I've felt it's time to move on. ...and oh boy, wait till you see what's coming out in 2021 :)
@gregoryreed8567
@gregoryreed8567 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroRGB Thanks, that’s fair. Can’t wait to see what’s cookin for 2021, let’s get on with it!
@astrideavolta
@astrideavolta 2 жыл бұрын
Just here to echo some of the others - thanks for the PAL coverage!
@ichigo3223
@ichigo3223 4 жыл бұрын
IS anyone using this with his/her SNES? I got mine a few days ago and I noticed a "humming" sound coming from the TV speakers when using the SNES. If I use the RAD2X with my Gamecube or N64, I don't get the humming sound at all.
@OGM_OriginalGameMusic
@OGM_OriginalGameMusic Жыл бұрын
I thought it also had a scanline filter? or am i confusing it with something else?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB Жыл бұрын
I believe you're thinking of the RetroTINK 2x Pro and 5x scalers.
@OGM_OriginalGameMusic
@OGM_OriginalGameMusic Жыл бұрын
@RetroRGB aaaaah yes thanks! It's the 2x scart in particular I got it confused with
@jayh7633
@jayh7633 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, very helpful & informative As are the majority of the comments. I managed to put a pre order in for one of these yesterday as it suits my needs perfectly seeing as I have multiple Nintendo pal consoles and this cable is a one cable solution for the majority of them & is more cost effective for me. For those interested they are up for pre order with a shipping date of September 2020. Keep up the excellent work on your channel mate & you’ve just earned a new sub.
@Louhike
@Louhike 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great time for retro gaming with Retrotink, great cables makers, DCHDMI, GDEmu (yes I like the Dreamcast) and so on and so on.
@neetrain
@neetrain 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo's official retro support for current gen is terrible. We all got to go back to the original consoles!!
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves the Dreamcast. In the dystopian desert future we will be playing roms on modded Dreamcast and OG Xbox. I’ll be king with my RGB modded N64 and Xeno modded GameCube though I’m building a complete library of GameCube games on burned discs (and I think am partially responsible for the cost of these discs going up in the last year)
@UttRConcrete
@UttRConcrete Жыл бұрын
Thanku im preordering this just for my N64!
@jaredt2590
@jaredt2590 4 жыл бұрын
Mario Kart 64 is a masterpiece. The only game I played more was Star Fox 64 which is the only game on the console I think is better and is one of the best video games ever made on any console. It was funny because Mario Kart 64 was better than the Mario Launch title. It felt like a completely different game from the snes release.
@cheesevisstv4426
@cheesevisstv4426 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah a great option without stock and Retro gaming cables don’t know when stock will back. >don’t ship to my country >pricey as fuck thanks to resellers
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