RADICAL FAKE NEWS!?!? Radical Results Solid - Bowling Ball Review

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The Results Solid from Radical is claimed to be "The hookingest ball in the game of bowling". Ryan "Barks" Barker finds out if that statement is overhyped! Comparing it to the Zing Solid, another strong asymmetric solid ball.
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[@jrproshop]

Hey everyone. We’ve noticed a lot of comments about the layouts used on the 2 balls in this video. Normally, we’d use the same layout on both balls, however, Barker had a couple of different concerns. First, he didn’t want the Results Solid to overlap the Zing, but rather, be a good compliment to it. Secondly, with the Mass Bias number being so high on the undrilled ball, he was worried that maxing out that number would cause the ball to roll too early, and lose energy too quickly. The layout used on the Results Solid was recommended by one of his reps at Brunswick, who initially did a pin up drilling similar to Barker’s Zing, and saw a ball reaction that was less than ideal. For him, the 35 x 4 x 60 layout was able to provide more shape downlane versus the pin up drilling. We expected the Results Solid to be comparable to the Zing in the amount of overall hook, with a bit of a smoother motion. What we got instead was much less overall hook, and unpredictability at the breakpoint. Hope this clears up some confusion.

[@elr2141979]

Which is why this video should be taken down because if he didn't want two balls to overlap each other by putting two different layout on the ball why would you make a video comparing it to the zing that's just plain dumb.

[@jimnewton5904]

if your comparing 2 balls use same pattern and surface your review is just lame and the snarky comments just make me never to want to see your useless review again , try a scientific method to get info not built in bias

[@jimnewton5904]

seemed as though you had an agenda before you started, now I cannot trust any review you give, whether intentional or by accident you have no credibility, go review all storm balls only I do not watch those anyway...if you read direction on radical balls they are based on after drilling numbers, read the directions dude , you wasted a ball and a lot of peoples time ,your arrogant , watch bowler x review and free agent bowler and you too can give a quality accurate review , leave your pre conceived ideas at the door , you really stepped in it with both feet , now clean up your mess

[@davidmaxwell3139]

You should do another video, with the same lay-outs. This will show us you actually care, and bring back some credibility for you guys. I still want to get some T-shirts. Great videos, I always like watching.

[@davidhiatt5434]

You drilled it to be early and smooth that is what you got The zing was drilled for down lane motion so again you got what you drilled to big of a difference in the layouts to compare

[@Polarcupcheck]

I learned one thing, today. Every bowling center should have a rock climbing wall to enhance their rosin and chalk sales.

[@charlesgerlach7059]

should have drilled the same to see the difference and compare the hook to truly see

[@elr2141979]

The biggest problem with this video is that he drilled the two balls differently so you can't compare the two and See How They Roll identically because they have two different layouts

[@dustygerlach7618]

@@elr2141979 exactly that is why you can give it a good comparison back in the day used to go to alot of demo days. all balls drilled neutral so you can see how they roll and react, went to a brunswick day in 07 and was tossing all their new stuff then tossed the fury on the regular house shot with it drilled neutral and it destroyed the pins. bought one. got it back to the pro shop to drill it and the pro said no you need to drill it different for the way you roll and throw, took me a lot of convincing for him to not do that but keep it neutral, first nite outt. 750, next week. two 800s and a 300 with it... had that in my bag for years

[@thephenom03]

I believe that for a better comparison, they should have been drilled the same. I have one and it is drilled to read the mid lane and it hooks hard. I really believe the layout is not good for that ball. I threw the Results solid and bowled really well. And I'm left handed. Try a different layout, maybe even the same as the Zing. Cordova Bowling Center Cordova, TN here

[@jrproshop]

Yea we agree, for solely comparison purposes should be the same layout, but barks wanted a compliment to the zing, to actually put in his tournament bag. So his Brunswick rep suggested that layout and it just didn't do what he expected, (he expected it to hook an equal amount and be much smoother, but it became unpredictable and wasn't even close with the hook potential

[@thephenom03]

@@jrproshop Ok. I get that. His hands position looked liked a really rolly one. Was that intentional? Maybe the same layout but a weaker hand position may get close to the results that he wants. Just a thought. That's what I've done when I want a delayed and smoother reaction from an aggressive ball like when I first got the Conspiracy.

[@gunz300]

This is garbage. You don’t put two completely different layouts on a ball for a comparison video. You also don’t put a read and roll layout on a ball and expect it to shape down lane. I really hope no one is using this to inform their arsenal decisions.

[@kierynknox2907]

Most of the time people use different layouts there are a few that use the same but it’s up to the bowler for the most part

[@gunz300]

No shit, but you can’t do an honest comparison that way then say some shit like fake news.

[@shenron2k5]

On no, you put a smooth layout on the ball and are upset that the ball isnt flippy. How about you use the same layout and accually see the difference in the two pieces.

[@qnpmh]

I'm a lefty and have two of the original Results pin up and pin down and the balls are AWESOME. I have two Results solids coming. It's your layout; it's CRAP. The layout options MO recommends work!

[@jimnewton5904]

they know Mo's layouts work that is why they did not drill it with one storm boys think they so smart....

[@jonathansantos7533]

Im goin to bowl in a tournament this weekend and its the 2019 single and doubles pattern usbc open So if I had a choice between the sonic,byte,phaze 2,hustle ink hyroad,hyroad pearl, pitch purple ,and the rocket Which of the three would you take thanks

[@jrproshop]

Hey Jonathan, hmm how many games? But assuming a 6-8 games. We would suggest phaze2, Byte, Hyroad pearl. Just a good mix of reactions

[@jonathansantos7533]

Thanks this will be my second sport shot I've ever bowled on would you recommend starting down the outside and slowly working my way left it is a five games. And then the top 16 qualify I appreciate all y'all's help I love the channel and the info

[@melvintang5351]

Megalanes Endah Perade, Malaysia.. Eager to wait your review about the hammer Black widow 2.0.. Hope to see you upload soon..

[@Barksbowling]

Can’t wait for the new Widow and Web!

[@connorallen9711]

I'm so happy that I go the zing when they still made it.

[@TheFreakout74]

Must be layout and pattern because mine hooks out of the building on a fresh Scorpion. Home house is Revs in Oshkosh WI

[@grandmasteryoda9893]

can you make video on it?. love to see it hook the lane on 30ml scorpion

[@TheFreakout74]

@@grandmasteryoda9893 i said it hooks I never said anything about hooking the lane on a fresh Scorpion. It hooks very effectively i was able to move in deeper as it transitioned and continued through the deck at any angle

[@grandmasteryoda9893]

@@TheFreakout74 thats good. at least it dont burn up

[@amleto300]

@@TheFreakout74 you literally said it hooks out the building on fresh...

[@TheFreakout74]

@@amleto300 Maybe try to understand context...

[@R8drntn]

Lol...I'm a two finger bowler, my Results hooks out the alley. I have it pin up over ring finger. You want a big hook, Brunswick Zenith. Put the right layout and the Results move....but, ok guys

[@jojobeanz4129]

Center I first started bowling in: Olympia Lanes Hammond, IN . Nice ball review

[@mannyperea8851]

Is the Zing solid ball a good ball to get and will it complement the zing hybird as well?

[@jrproshop]

Yep exactly, it's just been discontinued tho, so if you can find one jump on it

[@mannyperea8851]

Awesome I did found a 14 lb ball, thanks again , oh by the way Ten Pins & More is my favorite bowling center 🎳🎳🎳

[@mannyperea8851]

So I throw a back up ball do u have a recommendation to drill up the zing solid? Or keep the same drilling

[@bubbar_O_o]

Sweet swede here, so im bowling in an alley called Vilbergen in Norrköping, if you wanna google that. xD On the Result, did you get you MB past the VAL line, or right on the VAL line and could that have an inpact on the balls prefomance? And btw, keep the videos coming! Great work guys!

[@TrandafirRuby]

Will you guys be doing the fatal venom?

[@CurtisL8.3066]

RB, did you try to put a few more shots downlane? I’ve found that(coming from EBI) Brunswick covers take a couple of games before they wake up. That web tour hybrid is definitely more jumpy for me once I let it laneshine and get a track on it.

[@grandmasteryoda9893]

na he just have 60 val angel. that reduse the diff and backend motion

[@Barksbowling]

I’d thrown this ball a time or 2 before we shot the video. On our house shot it looked just ok. But once we put any real oil out, it had a hard time digging in and creating any shape whatsoever. 100% agree with you on the Web Tour Hybrid though. That ball is way better with less surface.

[@CurtisL8.3066]

@@Barksbowling big asyms rarely match up with my game except on shorter patterns with lots of volume. I’m a lefty pretty similar to your game so I’m sure you can relate. I did like the matrix solid though. Gave me a little shape downlane. But big asyms like this... nah. I have a Colombia savage for emergencies, but I probably have what 20 games on that thing after two years. Fuckin thing hooks at my shoelaces

[@bowlingxp8345]

Very interesting ! Where both balls more or less the same amount of dull/shiny?

[@Barksbowling]

I took a 2000 pad to each of them just before I bowled

[@bowlingxp8345]

@@Barksbowling by hand or on spinner ?

[@jimnewton5904]

so you never even tried the results out of box? where did you get your ball review card from a marble company , really gotta wonder why you waste peoples time ...

[@dejabowler873]

King pin lanes in Springfield Illinois

[@aidendernovich6995]

I play at sweetheart lanes in loveland Colorado USA

[@JustJrTv]

I watch Steve jaros throw the results solid and that ball hit hard. Yorkville IL Pinz

[@bowlingwithtom164]

You and jung should both do the reviews because you guys can talk about the different rev rates and stuff because my style is closer to jungs

[@jrproshop]

Barks can only do Brunswick family and Jungo can only do Storm products, as per contracts ☹️

[@exesemas]

Well this is easily solved by doing another comparison with a similar layout on a Zing. Also if 70% of ball motion is coverstock, then excluding extreme layouts (like a no flare layout), when i hear that a ball is "the hookingest ball in history", i expect it to go to the 7 in on short pattern.Yeah i know it will use most of it's energy early and will not be skid/flippy, but because it is a strong cover and with some surface oob, it should hook at your feet. Now if Mo intended to say that this ball has "the most potential for hook in the most lane conditions", then it could be something to explore. And even then, it would not be due to core because we have seen other balls with stronger cores and asymmetries, but because of coverstock. On the other hand, i doubt they would make a ball weaker than a Zing AND promote it as stronger at the same time.

[@tristenparker6785]

My home center is Billy Hardwick’s All Star Lanes, Memphis,Tennessee!

[@butchcoolidge3261]

I seem to have much more success with symmetrical balls. They are more consistent for me. I also prefer a pearl cover. I recently threw my first 300, with a Radical Rave with a pin up drilling. I also have an Intel Pearl, that I match up with really well. I met Mo around 2013 I believe. He fit me for a Guru Mighty. I also do well with it, but get more use out of the symmetrical balls. I used to buy a ton of balls, mostly because of the shelf appeal. I think I have things covered currently, and don’t have an actual need for anything new. Although I’m always interested to see if I’m missing out. Thanks for your review.

[@paulbass5955]

Home center St. Clair Lanes, St. Clairesville , Ohio

[@brianmercure9558]

Spare Time Lanes in Colchester Vt - Where League Bowlers Are An Afterthought

[@TheEhodge]

How so?

[@sauronseyescream8394]

Not going to give the name of my home center because they don't really deserve attention. Peoples bowling balls get dinged, and scratched to oblivion. I bought a new ball for the first time and after a year of use it looks I used in a parking lot instead of a bowling alley.

[@gsssavage720]

My home center is Northrock Lanes in Wichita, Kansas

[@nicholauscurphey3925]

if you drill the ball to have less hook, how can you actually compare it with the other ball that is drilled to hook more? Just seems dumb to me. Especially when you act surprised!

[@MrPottsTeaching]

If you ball speed is fast. It won't work. This is for slow bowlers. 13-14 mph

[@ijohnxthanrt8541]

My home center is Lucky Jacks traverse city MI

[@MrPottsTeaching]

Use a drilling that lowers the diff. The next time I get a Ferrari. I'm gonna get drag slicks. Go rallying on then then say how it's trash ha ha lmao ha ha ha Love Savage Godlike ha lmao ha ha ha :D

[@BentheBowler]

Almost every shot of the results left over the 8 pin spot. For a ball that’s supposed to hook off the lane it has horrible hitting power with that layout.

[@GetBetterHd]

Use one of mo’s lays outs for most hook potential then see

[@ragnarthered6459]

They won't acknowledge the honest criticism. But will easily go out their way to trash Brunswick.

[@top2pear]

Results Solid reminds me of Katana Dragon....a doorstop.

[@Barksbowling]

I remember that ball being promoted in a very similar way. They wanted it to be the biggest hooking ball ever reviewed by Bowlers Journal. Big hook doesn’t not alway equal success though.

[@top2pear]

@@Barksbowling I threw the Dragon on heavy volumes, short patterns, multiple surfaces and it did the same thing....nothing.

[@kellymcmanaway4069]

Monroe Sports Center, Monroe Michigan

[@dustinmensing1099]

You need to get under the ball not the side bc you ain't got any revs at all dude LMFAO ✌️

[@kevinhess5821]

FR this guy is revving 117 and complaining the ball didn't hook

[@brandondriley]

Why weren't you that far outside with the Results Solid in league?! You're a lefty Barks and it looked just fine blending the wet/dry out on the twig!

[@Barksbowling]

I tried being there in league, and it struggled to make it up the hill. Other balls looked much better

[@fuzzgutterwins3]

Royal z lanes, Wilmington Ohio.

[@scottlope4680]

ok the results solid like all balls. Surface surface surface. for some strange reason the 500/3000 hardly did things for me. i went and did a 360/1000 and pick up way too early. 360/1000/2000 and it turned to be a monster.

[@jrproshop]

That's interesting, that's not a huge difference from the box

[@gregorycoy4144]

Thanks for the biased reviews. Two totally different balls IMO plus different drillings so you can't compare. I love my Results, 4 300s with it so far in 3 months. I won't watch anymore videos. Hope y'all aren't on staff with them

[@aroe3outify]

Wow... they can’t have their own opinion on the ball... you will not watch anymore vids cause you didn’t agree with them?... That’s incredible... 🤦‍♂️

[@peytonpatterson2060]

Pikeside Bowl, Martinsburg, West Virginia.

[@danlorwil083175]

The pin down layout of 35 x 4" x 60 that you put on the Results Solid will lay the core down sooner, lose rotation sooner, and roll more forward when it hits friction. That is why it hooked less. Pin down balls will reduce the intermediate diff and the total diff, therefore reducing the ball motion. You have to lay the ball out correctly to get the desired motion. I would have drilled the Results Solid with either the max flip layout of 70 x 3 1/2" x 20, or the most versatile layout of 45 x 4" x 35. The pin down layout is more for control and will not give you the backend response as compared to the stronger layouts. Layouts are more critical now because you can no longer use balance holes to enhance ball motion. The Brunswick ball rep that gave you that layout recommendation was a very poor one in my opinion. If you had both the Zing and the Results Solid with the same strong layout, the comparison would have been more air. But comparing a strong layout on the Zing to a much weaker pin down layout on the Results Solid is an extremely unfair comparison of ball motion.

[@jrproshop]

The concern I had with doing a pin up layout had to do with maxing out the intermediate diff. I’ve drilled balls like the Real One with taller pins, and while in theory they should flip harder, they would instead use their energy too early and be really lazy. There’s definitely a sweet spot for me on asymmetrics, somewhere between 0.014 and 0.020 on the intermediate diff scale. I find balls like that give me a more consistent reaction. But to each their own I guess.

[@danlorwil083175]

@@jrproshop Smaller VAL angles between 20 and 30 degrees have a longer skid phase and a shorter hook and roll phase. The smaller VAL angles are good when you need a "down the lane and kick on the back" reaction usually at the beginning of lane transition or breakdown. 35 to 45 degree VAL angles more versatile, all-purpose and are usually more continuous and do not jerk off the spot as hard as the smaller VAL angles. 60 to 85 degree VAL angles are generally used in pin down layouts. High VAL angles will roll the most forward and lay the core down the soonest when the ball hits friction. The pin down layouts have the longest transition because they pick up the soonest, hook the smoothest, and roll the most forward off the spot and straighter through the pins. Core shape determines ball motion. It is all about selecting the right ball, choosing the right layout, and putting the proper surface on the ball. If you do not have all three covered, you will not have proper ball motion. Your style, being left handed, would be ideally suited with the all-purpose or most versatile layout of 45 x 4" x 35 as a good benchmark asymmetrical layout.

[@robbybowlsalot5947]

I understand your point on your motion doesn’t look to proper for youz game still.. what if you change surface on it?? maybe a lil more motion where it can be a Lil step down from the zing??

[@rb8999]

Or maybe don't drill a stronger & earlier ball with an earlier rolling layout expecting it to boom on the backend

[@robbybowlsalot5947]

That’s true but hey from the message his ball rep thought other wise

[@rb8999]

My PaP coordinates are similar to his and a 60° VAL angle means pin down or pin in/around the ring finger which would also reduce flare on a lower flaring ball. 50 x 4 x 30 would have probably gotten the motion he wanted

[@robbybowlsalot5947]

Hopefully he looks at the message an take thet inna consideration and maybe try it.. ball reps are human we all make mistakes

[@grandmasteryoda9893]

@@rb8999 compare 60 val angel to the Zing that close to max flip are like complaning you cant run e85 on dissel motor just becuse it is fuell for a engine. pointless

[@kennethkohlhorst8813]

You guys fucked up the drill layout on it of course it isn’t gonna out hook the one with the more aggressive layout. That’s like putting a smooth layout on the proton physix and putting an aggressive layout on a ufo and saying the ufo hooks more. Like no shit.

[@tismanasou]

Putting the strongest possible drilling layout on a bowling ball and claiming that this is the hookiest ball in the history is totally misleading. In order to prove that one should put the most strong layouts in all other competing balls in the market and compare them. Rarely do league players need to put the most strong layput on a ball. A ball that is claimed to be the hookiest in history should provide a distinguished motion compared to other balls no matter what layout you put on it, provided that it is somewhat within regular drilling boundaries. That is not the case with this ball. In addition Radical should probably stop marketing their balls being the hookiest as that is not a feature of primary importance. A ball in order to be successful needs to be controllable when needed to and be able to get matched with multiple players' styles. That's why Storm/Rotogrip/900 Global/Motiv dominate the market even though they constitute a lot less brands compared to the ones owned by Brunswick.

[@jrproshop]

Great points John! Sometimes we feel like the 7 Brunswick brands are quantity over quality 😢 hard to keep up even as a pro shop!

[@tnjrcfl1]

Wow... I'm in Warpath lanes in Kingsport TN as well as Interstate in Bristol Va.... when the despotic government of Va deems us worthy of leaving our homes

[@russell7290]

Just...no.

[@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

I never saw your video until now. I bought this ball based on some different videos I saw that looked good. Hopefully my results no pun intended are better than yours came out unfortunately.

[@MrPottsTeaching]

That ball shyt tha bed right it the box lmao ha ha ha :D

[@ragnarthered6459]

Like your vernacular

[@cedricwright4122]

Sparetimes. Hampton Va

[@jonmarley_5324]

Lava lanes. Home of the Medford meteor Marshall Holman. Medford Oregon

[@Barksbowling]

A true Northwest legend. We love Mr. Holman

[@AdamTrautmanBowling]

Same, Lava Lanes. Because nobody claims Roxy as their home center 😂

[@jonmarley_5324]

@@AdamTrautmanBowling even though roxy has better deck

[@AdamTrautmanBowling]

@@jonmarley_5324 I miss Medford Lanes. Grew up bowling there with the whole family and played quite a few tournaments there.

[@dejabowler873]

Why was barko throwing 16 lb

[@Barksbowling]

Always throwing man weight 💪

[@dejabowler873]

@@Barksbowling so all of your bowling balls are 16 pounds

[@brandondriley]

Must be that Ciminelli like left arm

[@SC_79]

Don't paperweight it, send it to me! (In Canada, I'll pay shipping) ;-) @jrproshop

[@FearTheWeird300]

Probably needs more oil

[@jeremytrubenstein5994]

If you're gonna do a ball comparison, try using the same layout. Not sure if you did that intentionally or unknowingly. Either way, do better with those kind of mistakes.

[@jrproshop]

We explain why in the video..

[@mattjjaz8477]

Stardust Bowl, Addison IL. Bowled against someone using the results on PBA Dragon pattern yesterday and the ball was hot garbage. My axiom pearl hooks more than that ball 🥺 thanks for the review. Keep em coming!

[@Barksbowling]

I think the ball is very condition and bowler specific. It could be great for the right bowler, but it certainly wasn’t the ball for me.

[@jasoncantrall6446]

You guys are hilarious. You obviously didn't look at the drill sheet. If you're fist number is 35, you didn't drill it to hook on the backend. I have the ball and have the sheet. The maximum flip layout first number is 70. I just used it yesterday in league on the Carmen Salvino 44 foot pattern and won money. Why don't you have Mo on and talk about it?

[@jrproshop]

We did, we went even further and talked to one of the Brunswick reps about it (knows barks well) and this is the layout he suggested for him, he has a gap in his bag where he needs a smooth tank, and thought this would be the perfect ball for it. Guess not ☹️

[@jimnewton5904]

@@jrproshop why would you drill a review ball for a guy and drill it to fill a gap ? then get snarky on the review, well you wont have any radical balls to review in the future unless you put down some greenbacks, what tards.....

[@BowlingScience]

The only fake news is that there was any sort of valid analysis here... pretending to understand core numbers and mocking the leading core designer in the history of bowling is not a good look. The story of this ball's hook potential is the textured solid cover.

[@BowlingScience]

Looks like you smoothed that out on the ball spinner too... there is a reason box surface has 500 under it and just a light 3000 on top. We tested with 5 different layouts, 2 oil patterns and multiple surfaces before claiming "hookingest". If you take any ball with hook potential and smooth it out with less surface and a huge VAL, it will differ from its potential when used with surface and a hooking layout...

[@jrproshop]

We’re here to give honest reviews and we can’t play favourites and mislead our viewers. Just because barks didn’t like it doesn’t mean that everyone won’t. The layout is 35x4x60 puts the pin the ring, that's a super strong core angle and pin to pap distance, and for it to not even come close to the zing in terms of boards covered is surprising.

[@BowlingScience]

60 degrees is not a strong VAL. Also, angle ratio determines shape. When the first angle is nearly half the second angle, this promotes more forward roll. Hey, honest is good, but a smoothed out pin down ball isn't gonna tell you anything about the hook potential of a bowling ball. I suggest Innovative's Advanced Pro Shop class... they can help refine your understanding of layouts and core numbers.

[@BowlingScience]

The Results comes with 5 recommended layouts. The one you chose is similar to the least hooking, flaring layout. Don't want to mislead your viewers...

[@jrproshop]

Haha you said the balls hook potential is in the cover stock, so then how does a slightly larger Val angle make this ball hook 9 boards less than the zing ? This ball doesn't even come close.

[@stormb28]

“WoW tHaTS RaDIcAL” stuff is junk

[@dillonthompson5589]

I bet your high game isn’t over 200😂

[@dustinmensing1099]

No he doesn't know how to throw a ball he's like a little girl

[@itskyyuuuu]

What a bogus review, ball is not meant for someone who bowls like that.

[@joshhammonds7145]

Lost a sub. Felt like more of a video to trash Radical than anything else. Drill one ball to be angular, but the other ball to not be angular and then complain that it isn't angular? oooooooooooooook.

[@grandmasteryoda9893]

ikr, like rob johnon did same layout on this and the bonus and it out hooked the bonus by 15 bords. this video are pointless

[@carterstrouse2111]

To defend on 37 feet it should of hooked entire lane even for that layout. Especially for asym but I am a storm guy.

[@jrproshop]

Hey J Hamm, sorry to hear that, obviously point was not to trash radical, the zing performs amazingly and is one of barks fav balls. Carter is right, that ball with that layout should perform pretty equal to the zing in boards hooked, but wasn't even close. The point was to make it smoother and rounder down lane to compliment the zing. But it was unpredictable and didn't hook nearly as much as expected.

[@joshhammonds7145]

@@jrproshop I understand where you guys were trying to come from, but I think it could have been executed better. Maybe it would have been better to compare it to the pearl Results to show the different motions? I just think trashing the ball isn’t the answer when it’s really the layout that was the problem.