Radio Westeros E23 - Littlefinger, Part One

[@For_The_Watch]

As a cost accountant I really enjoyed you guys talking about Raw materials and finished goods and what not

[@RadioWesteros]

Thank you, this comment made my day! I really enjoyed writing about that :) - LG

[@thesnowinwinterfell2571]

Man, I gotta tell ya, I've listened to just about every podcast out there on ASOIAF and Radio Westeros is by far the best.

[@BlackstreetBoys2Men]

8 years later and this comment not having thousands of upvotes is criminal

[@RadioWesteros]

Thanks for all your comments guys!

[@AhavaMath]

+Radio Westeros It always makes my day when there is a new Radio Westeros episode to listen too! Thank you for all your hard work!

[@RadioWesteros]

+AhavaShinobi you're very welcome :)

[@abirdhasnoname.5376]

I’m so glad I’m finally watching these. I believe the catspaw dagger has already made a couple appearances through Sansa’s eyes. Twice we see him cutting fruit for them to share using a dagger. And both times he’s teaching her about how to play the game. Even mentioning how bad Ned was at it while flaunting the dagger in her face.

[@tylerbarrett6652]

You are right - GRRM probably doesn't know enough about economics to go into much detail at all... but Little Finger seems to be at the top of the robber baron class... He'd be a Carnegie or a Rockefeller for sure... If they had railroads - Little Finger would probably own the Lion's share of them. If ANYONE could make use of Harranhal, it would be LittleFinger... a centrally located warehouse district would serve really well... and the complex/castle would eventually be well guarded... attracting lots of side businesses - the least of which would be the brothels. He could turn that curse around. My problem is that I can't see him on the throne... He's not playing the game of thrones for his own sake... though he may have a preference. I don't know who he wants to see on the throne.... but he's more a king maker than he is a king himself. His realm is economics... buying/selling... but they can't be too far away from railroads/mass transit.... right? I hope GRRM gets better in that area.

[@stephsteph3348]

You guys set the bar extremely high for SOIAF discussions. I don't know how you do it but thank you so much for all the work that very obviously goes into making these!

[@RadioWesteros]

+Peace Baby thanks for that! It is hard work but we do love it ;)

[@artos607]

I'm in the camp that Shae is an agent of Varys, she was hidden in Chataya's brothel, a place Varys seems to have connections to, and she seems to act according to Varys's aims, like hanging around Tyrion and then turning and testifying against him, right when Varys did the same thing.

[@joyceshelton8306]

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[@shannontalbert9716]

I'm so happy this is ready, and that it's in 2 parts! Baelish is one of the most mysterious characters out there, can't wait to listen!

[@SaintGBar22]

I think this was one of your best episodes yet, though they are all terrific and a wonderful listen at work and before bed, right up there with the tywin Lannister episode and the prophesies episode. I cannot wait for part 2 I'm ready for it like yesterday. Great work! Between radio westeros and history of westeros I can't get enough.

[@inventedgears]

I'm so grateful for Radio Westeros! thank you for all your hard work.

[@maryharrison6948]

This was job well done. I am full of pleasant anticipation for part 2. Littlefinger is fascinating and you have managed to pinpoint just how many wheels there are inside the wheels we fans thought we knew. You've definitely provided some concision. Love the thoughts on his known and potentially known agents. Brilliant. You two give him a definite run for his money. When I think of Jeyne Poole, Ned, even that squire of Jon Arryn's, who was likely sacrificed for the furtherance of Petyr's plotting, I should feel ashamed for considering him one of my fave characters.Yet I do. I'd like him to win for a while, just not ultimately. I sometimes wonder what he'd do if he met Lady Soneheart, lol. Again, quality entertainment, thank you so much.

[@RadioWesteros]

+Mary Harrison thank you! We feel much the same- he's a fascinating mix of contradictions and complexities and we love to hate him. The story will seem much more dull without him! He also has surprising points of pathos, which we hope will be evident in the next episode.

[@maryharrison6948]

+Radio Westeros and he has minty-fresh breath, lol. Thanks for your reply. Can hardly wait.

[@caitmay4693]

Yes! Been looking forward to a new episode and it just so happens this is one of my favorite characters. Exciting!

[@JoshuaBarnes2298]

i love and hate littlfinger so much. exellent example of a truly gray character i like to imagine littlefinger is the protagonist in some strange george martin style a david and goliath type story but david is kind of a creepy asshole

[@jacindaferguson2409]

Yesssssssss. You don't understand how excited I am to listen to this one! Thanks Radio Westeros!

[@HelyneMay]

The extent of LF's money laundering is kind of staggering. I guess you can see how he could afford to use every lemon in The Vale for that mountain of lemon cakes for Sansa, and can be stockpiling food before winter (although how nefarious is it that he will be ransoming food for starving people?). Looking forward to part two and his interest in prophesy. Trying to wrap my mind around tapestries, Harrenhal, Lothson blood, Sansa. and what's in it all for Baelish. I'm sure that you'll bring it into focus, and I am already grateful for it !

[@RadioWesteros]

+Helyne May Thanks so much! Agreed his manipulation of food supplies in the face of certain famine is pretty dark, which is saying something! Hope you enjoy part 2, we're looking forward to sharing it :)

[@evancasteel7741]

A song of ice and fire is by far by favorite book series to date. Thank you all so much for taking the time and commitment to give it the most well done break downs possible. The Best SOIAF channel period!

[@RadioWesteros]

+Evan Casteel Thanks for the kind words Evan, really appreciate it! yb & LG

[@DiCleverly]

Phenomenal analysis from both of you! I have only recently found your channel, but I am bingeing on every one! Thanks for doing these, they are so enjoyable!

[@RadioWesteros]

+Di Cleverly (Live Outrageously) You're very welcome, and thank you for listening! Very happy to have you aboard :)

[@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318]

@@RadioWesteros you da bestststs

[@danburke6568]

Been a hard day at work, just what i wanted to chill out too. thanks again for the upload peeps

[@RadioWesteros]

+Dan Burke No problem Dan!

[@cjgreenmun5339]

Hey guys! Love your podcasts. Keep up the good work!

[@cinne2135]

I'm subscribed but didn't receive notification: I whoo hoo'd so loudly when I scrolled across the new episode. Yay! I'm so excited to listen. You both do such great work!

[@CoxinatorProductions]

Woke up with the new upload message - day made! Thank you!

[@lilikatebuggins374]

This was so good, looking forward to part 2 :)

[@RadioWesteros]

+Lilikate Buggins Thanks! Part 2 will be released 2 weeks today ;)

[@lilikatebuggins374]

+Radio Westeros I am so glad as I was just contemplating the length of the months wait, a fortnight seems tolerable :) Thank you.

[@winterthekid]

I've been waiting for this!... so glad it's finally on the air!... thanks very much! ciao, Winter...

[@cartmanbeer]

Amazing as always! I am looking forward to part 2

[@BerndXYCV]

YAY. Littlefinger! I've waited for this one so long :) Thx guys!

[@natkoori123]

Great work as always! Really enjoyed the throughout look at Little Finger's little fingers and that advert at the end.

[@RadioWesteros]

+NAT T haha, glad you like the advert!

[@guesswho1047]

Can't wait for more new content from you guys

[@ser_ryon_vine6392]

Great great great stuff you guys! Just don't keep me waiting too long for part 2 LOL.

[@drkaushikde1]

Great Upload Radio Westeros. Littlefinger is definitely one of the most layered creatures creatures in the Song of Ice & Fire. I like your analysis. Littlefinger resembles a disease afflicting Westeros from one perspective while from another perspective he is the cure representing meritocracy in a feudal society. Though Littlefinger might be a power-monger, he seldom comes as evil. What are the chances of a dramatic reveal from LF according to you

[@RadioWesteros]

+kaushik de Hi and thanks! We'' be talking a lot more bout LF's psyche and endgame in part 2, which will be out Monday 4th April.

[@drkaushikde1]

Hope that date is not GRRMseque deadline

[@1984hermantoothrot]

Best ASOIAF podcast guys; professional, fun and interesting. Keep it up

[@kevinmoore4237]

Another fantastic episode-RW is really in a league of its own at this point-can't wait for Pt. II. I've long pulled my hair out over Shadrich. It seems unlikely that LF knows that Shad is looking for Sansa, as he would have had him killed by now if he knew. So from a literary standpoint, it seems pretty likely that his presence and coy comment about "stumbling on a bag of dragons" are likely to lead to Shad kidnapping Sansa, but then what? On their exit from the Vale, they'd probably be set upon by Tyrion's clansmen buddies with their new armor and weapons. Maybe Sansa the newly-minted player could use the Tyrion connection to bring them into her service, just as Tyrion was able to do in Book 1? On the other hand, Shadrich would have a hard time getting very far before LF noticed Sansa missing and sent an army of tourney combatants on a quest to rescue her. Alternatively, if Shadrich isn't going to kidnap Sansa, why has GRRM introduced him? Maybe he'll keep the secret under his hat and head alone to Kingslanding to tell Cersei? Of course, Cersei has quite a few problems of her own at the moment. All this is really making me salivate for Part II and your prognostications for the future Vale/LF/Sansa storyline. The whole Sansa/Vale plot is really a puzzle, and it's one area where it's almost certain that the show won't spoil anything, since they've already spoiled Sansa's arc in a completely different sense of the word.

[@RadioWesteros]

+Kevin Moore Thank you! We truly hope part II lives up to expectations. Don't want to say too much because spoilers, but I think it's alright to say that while the show may have utterly abandoned a major part of Sansa's arc, we do see some broad stroke consonance. The rest we'll leave for next time ;)

[@stednark2217]

Thinking of Littlefinger's association with the Titan/Giant, and I wonder if Tormund "Giant's Bane" will have anything to do with Littlefinger's demise.

[@Ivy94F]

Subscribed! I read the books so long ago, I didn't realize how much I had forgotten. I absolutely love these!

[@RadioWesteros]

Hope you enjoy our catalogue ;)

[@atilius11]

well, he was asked about the dagger Cat broth to KL. as master of arm he knew, but did not say and let Littlefinger play his scheme. Why? was he working for him or was he working for the Martel's and wanted to ask first what to reveal and so was a liability and was killed at the riot?

[@jimmybones4299]

phenomenal episode guys

[@judyb8011]

I listen to the different parts on different days, just to make episodes last longer :) I'm very glad we're getting two episodes of Baelish! Thank you both so much for all your hard work!

[@RadioWesteros]

+Judy B Thanks for that! Hope you enjoy part 2 :)

[@SaneMillennial]

Very well done! I so love your two's attention to detail!

[@nimbe0]

That's why you both are awesome! C'mon!! I just hearing the first part of your analysis and my head has exploded!! Congrats to you both and please tell me that you are going to analyze Varys as well as this episode. Thanks again and I can't wait for the next part.

[@joshuachappell5840]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@atilius11]

was Aron Santagar also working for him, or was he a liability and that is why he got killed during the KL riot?

[@RadioWesteros]

+Titus Ardevan hadn't really considered Ser Aron as anything other than a casualty of the mob! Curious if you think there's some clue other than his untimely death?

[@NeoLudditevisons]

Sweet baby Jesus!! Cannot wait to listen to this :)

[@HelyneMay]

Monday just got better. Giving you the "like" already, 'cause I know it'll be awesome.

[@MoejiiOsmanTV]

this is my bedtime story...tyyyy

[@badeffinkittie]

Just found your channel and you guys are amazing!!!

[@ASlapOfAFish]

thank you again for yet another awesome episode..... :-)

[@tuamigajordana]

Today my husband gave me 3 different kinds of bad news, thank you for the breath of fresh air!

[@RadioWesteros]

+tuamigajordana you're very welcome! Happy to be your fresh air :)

[@MrSpartacus1970]

this is just awesome.

[@t0mred]

very enjoyable episode. thank you!

[@Jabez525]

Waiting for part two...

[@kerrybrennan7099]

Great job guys.

[@RadioWesteros]

+Kerry Brennan Thanks!

[@artos607]

This guy is the John Blunt of Westeros. Is Tyrion Walpole?

[@drkaushikde1]

Can't wait for LF part 2

[@lenceagle1]

Stellar as always!! But I don't see why Bron or Shea had to tell Littlefinger about Tyrion's first marriage disaster. Tywin spoke of it in the books, as did Jaime, I believe. Either of them could have mentioned it to Baelish. Cersei must have heard the story from someone (Jaime, cough cough). Besides, Tyrion was a son of the Lord of Casterly Rock. A story like that does not stay hidden. . . Especially when the story's key element involves 50 soldiers acting as more than witnesses. Great video, for real, though guys!!! Thanks.

[@RadioWesteros]

+lenceagle1 we considered that of course, but we'd rule out Tywin and Jaime on the grounds that the story seems like a family secret and is very little spoken of even amongst the Lannisters. Guards could talk too, and probably would in real life, but given the fact that *as the story is written* Tyrion pointedly tells only those two people, both of whom have other suspicious qualities, one has to wonder if it's a clue. But ymmv of course :) Thanks for listening & commenting!

[@viperswhip]

Sansa betrayed the plot to marry her of to the Tyrell's to LF, if she had kept her mouth shut she would be in the Reach.

[@VinnyRidgeMedia]

This guy was a regular Milo Minderbinder

[@treesarecool12345678]

Why does storing the grain overseas benefit Littlefinger?

[@RadioWesteros]

+treesarecool12345678 He then controls the supply of the grain, and might even benefit from import and mill taxes.

[@treesarecool12345678]

+Radio Westeros once it's in demand again you mean? Does grain not spoil? Sorry if that's a silly question...

[@RadioWesteros]

+treesarecool12345678 Properly done it seems to have been a pretty common historical practice to store grain for years at necessity (see Joseph in the Bible, seven years)

[@treesarecool12345678]

+Radio Westeros thanks so much. You always reply to my questions and all your videos are so well put together. I'd love to be able to make a small contribution to your channel, you guys must work so hard to put together such a quality script, do you not have patreon or anything similar?

[@RadioWesteros]

+treesarecool12345678 aww, thanks for that! We don't have a Patreon (yet) but we do have 2 ways to help out if you so desire. On KZbin you can click the "Support" button on the right of our home page, or go to our website and click the PayPal Donate button. Watching on KZbin is another form of support, and of course your comments and subscription here help as well! Cheers- LG & yb

[@tfagan1660]

New listener enjoying the content 🥰

[@RadioWesteros]

Glad to hear it! Thanks so much 😊

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

A mother does not flee without her children.

[@mommalynnette8190]

A mom doesn't lock her children in the darkness either.... A real mom that is. Too bad Danny's womb is worm dust.

[@drkaushikde1]

What do you think of the show? I haven't been able to make up my mind whether to watch the show or not. Whats your take on it?

[@connorm997]

Name of song at 10:20 ?

[@RadioWesteros]

Kevin Macleod 'Dark Times'

[@connorm997]

Radio Westeros thank you so much

[@Bakasama04]

This entire video is better than BvS

[@renzgarcia84]

Littlefinger may have also learned of Tysha from Cersei herself

[@rhoddryice5412]

I’d like to have a “RiverRum Black Fishshot”

[@DAWGSTAR615]

wow. subscribed.

[@RadioWesteros]

+Henry Parsons Glad to have you on board Henry ;)

[@thomasmcmahon9219]

fucking love you guys.

[@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318]

Spoilers AAALLLLL BOOKS!

[@ianbutler8776]

Varys is quoting Aegon power is in targ blood

[@dtimke1]

You said Littlefinger's "2nd attempt" to remove Tyrion was the hiring of the dwarves & getting him accused of Joffrey's murder. I think this is the 3rd attempt. The 2nd attempt was Ser Mandon Moore trying to kill Tyrion on the Blackwater. Tyrion assumes Cersei was behind it, but Cersei has not admitted to it. Mandon Moore was brought to the Kingsguard by Jon Arryn, which means Littlefinger probably suggested him to Jon. I'm not done listening to everything so maybe you do get to this later. Also, Penny did try to kill Tyrion when they met later. (a 4th attempt?) Maybe you will get to that too. I'm a few years behind in listening to these.

[@dtimke1]

Oops. I just got to the point where you discussed Ser Mandon Moore. You guys don't miss anything!

[@mariostaressternly4041]

oh fuck yes this channel

[@BardMiller-u5q]

12:40

[@waldenandwilson]

I'm pretty sure Petyr Baelish is actually the Sith Lord- oh, right. Wrong mythology!

[@jodysheridan604]

I'm listening to this podcast in December 2020, and your interpretation of Petre Balish's interactions sound sadly similar to America's current political focus. Yikes…