RAF Fighter Jet Stalling Training Taught in DCS Flight School

Here I perform an RAF fast jet stalling exercise that teaches the student to recognise and recover from the incipient or fully developed stall with minimum height loss.
This sortie is developed for the F-5E and F/A-18C from RAF fast jet Advanced Flying Training where I taught for 10 years as a Qualified Flying Instructor. All Shadowlands DCS Flight School student pilots receive up to 14 hours of lesson time per week and 24/7 free flying on the servers.
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'RAF Fighter Jet Stalling Exercise Taught in DCS Flight School', Tim Davies, Fast Jet Performance (www.fastjetperformance.com)
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Timestamps 👇
HASELL Checks @ 0:45
Fully Developed Stall @ 3:33
Incipient Stall @ 6:04
Stall in the Final Turn @ 6:50
Accelerated Stall @ 11:24
Light Buffet Max Performance Manoeuvring @ 12:44
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[@FastJetPerformance]

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[@Mark_Point]

👍👍 F5 is such great little jet.

[@mikesolyom6884]

"F-14? No one cares" I think Tom Cruise may disagree with that statement. Great video btw, Tim. Keep up the great work.

[@raptorman0]

Really good to watch what we were learning this week👍

[@bushje]

another amazeballz vid Tim!! absolutely lovin what you do! you da man fam!

[@jc8095]

Would DCS allow you an idea if a student would have hacked the FJ syllabus IRL? No g in DCS I know so maybe daft q. Sorry if.

[@jameshewitt8828]

This is great tim, obviously different airframe/speed/performance but all good, even for me tearing up suffolk skies in the Robin HR200

[@JBFire97]

Great content as always! Thanks.

[@HerbertTowers]

29.88? What country are you in?

[@FastJetPerformance]

Georgia

[@simplydesan211]

Tim, do you know about other DCS modules used by military to train pilots, just like french air army did with Mirage 2000 module?

[@FastJetPerformance]

Just F/A-18C at the moment.

[@Jojooooooo]

Might have been cool to save the RAF videos for the eurofighter lol

[@dannyturner999]

Great stuff Tim 👍

[@hodders5903]

Great Video !💯

[@Mark_Point]

You mentioned the jetseat. Roughly how much does that cost all in, to the UK?

[@FastJetPerformance]

It was import duties that hit me the most but it ends up being about £250 I think - I'll check my invoice, it's a big outlay and good for VR, not so much TrackIR.

[@Mark_Point]

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[@FastJetPerformance]

@@Mark_Point I too just got the MFG V3s, great pedals but £70 import duty!

[@Mark_Point]

@@FastJetPerformance Yep same as me.. was expecting some as no tax applied on purchase but was more than I expected. Oh well... Cheaper than a real plane...🤣

[@teawizard]

Great video as always Tim. Out of interest, why no reheat in the recovery?

[@FastJetPerformance]

Over 10 alpha and the disturbed airflow into the engines will stall the compressor leading to an engine surge will means it produces no power and will have to be restarted - this is particular to the F-5 in this case, other aircraft differ.

[@gzk6nk]

Interesting that at the full stall there is not much nose drop to indicate the point of stall, plenty of wing rock, but the jet is descending like a box of hammers and nose-high. Is there any tendency to roll-off into the spin (the Yak52 does it readily! And even the Chipmunk will bite if you let it)? In fact, can it be deliberately spun and recovered (given required height)?

[@FastJetPerformance]

If you pick up wing with rudder then yes, you can enter a spin. I give a 40 min brief before the flight that covers centre of pressure movement and boundary flow separation, etc.

[@ColinDyckes]

@@FastJetPerformance Tim, did you mean "pickup wing with rudder" and not aileron as being wrong and likely to spin? I just remember from my PPL and a couple of aerobatic flights that using the ailerons to try to pick up the wing just deepens the stall of the low wing and starts a spin entry. Doing that and kicking full rudder towards the low wing gets you into a guaranteed spin 🙂. Opposite Rudder corrects it.

[@FastJetPerformance]

@@ColinDyckes it's different in swept wing aircraft, ailerons are effective at the stall but we can enter a spin by the use of too much rudder at slow speed.

[@ColinDyckes]

@@FastJetPerformance Thanks. I didn't know that!

[@ColinDyckes]

@sampaix From what Tim said, it seems that swept wings vs straight are the main factor. The airflow from the prop over the tail has some effect in conventional aerobatics, but I believe engine torque is the main factor in extreme manoeuvres like the lomcovak.

[@HerbertTowers]

As a QFI would you really recommend trimming into the stall?

[@FastJetPerformance]

For the exercise you will trim into the stalk as, for real, you don't realise you are about to stall so you will also be inadvertently trimming until the stall.

[@HerbertTowers]

@@FastJetPerformance I was talking of the real thing. I'm thinking now of "trim to the light buffet" Ex 9 or so? BFTS.

[@FastJetPerformance]

@@HerbertTowers oh, if you are holding light buffet in air combat, you don't trim to that, no. But for the Stalling Exercise where you are demonstrating the stall, I tend to trim whilst doing it.

[@HerbertTowers]

@@FastJetPerformance Yup, that's where I was coming from. Academic full stall or spin. Keep trimming until the light buffet, but no further. I guess it depends on whether the light buffet is described as a stall. Now though we get into semantics and aircraft type behaviour - sometimes even individual machines. Did you hear of the Tucano that would only spin in one direction. Legend has it that during walk out one day an instructor noticed that one wing was longer than its mate! That's what happens when aircraft are built by shipbuilders. Allegedly they were built bespoke. No jigs! No idea of the veracity. JP5s were my steeds.

[@FastJetPerformance]

@@HerbertTowers I was a student on Tucano when someone broke the rudder pedals! We thought it would be a quick fix but it took almost a year as all the rudder pedals were bespoke to each jet, lol!