Rafter tail and the importance of fascia

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[@jethal]

Next project for my house is repairing the shed.. this video helped alot, thanks!

[@sheldonharvey8306]

Thank you for the video. I am a new subscriber. Your explanation was great, but if there is a way that you can show pictures of what the sister drafter tails look like, in another video, that would be awesome.

[@Rick-be8pw]

Thanks dude! Awesome video...I love carpentry work...Getting ready to start a house that has this trouble..can't wait to get started!

[@lamrof]

Man, you jumped over the important steps.

[@bobcatwelder00]

lmao he did not do the work he had his labor do it

[@jasonwbradford6115]

I’m learning to do roof estimates and need to know my roofs. Now I know what a rafter tail is… Thank you so much for sharing the video.

[@alonzofineart2428]

Appreciate the tips. Waiting on a quote for a 15' span of the facia that needs repair. I have two rafters needing the tails addressed.

[@haydenjames7841]

Thanks Man this is a very helpful video! So glad I saw it, now I'm going to fix mine just like you're showing us

[@gergemall]

Great video , perfect example of what I'm doing on my old house. Facia board previously was NOT flush with plywood. Thanks for taking the time to make and post this helpful video .

[@jdshear01]

LoL - sorry about all of the whiners... @1:07 you can see the one sister that has been nailed in and obviously we can see the before look from shots before that. Thanks for showing the exposed framing along with the rot and the solution. I guess everyone wants to see the measuring of the angle, the cutting of the board, running the string down the side of the rafters for alignment, and the nailing it in place. I saw what I needed, thanks for the video and the advise!

[@hsusysgmailcom]

Thank you. That little drip edge missed on my roof indeed caused me a great deal of headache to find carpenter to fix it. With your detail, we may have to pick it up ourselves.

[@corona4100]

Thanks for the Video... but i too was looking forward to the "sistering" of the rafter tail or the removing of the rot... do you have other videos?

[@Richard4616]

I had the same problem with a pole barn that I bought. The damage was caused by someone without roofing knowledge or being cheap. They didn’t use a starter strip when they roofed it. Did a lot of damage. I fixed it myself. Did a lot of research an a lot or procrastinating before I fixed the problem. Then I struck a chalk line, then I cut 2 foot of the roofing and sheeting off with a circular saw. Ripped it off, sister the 2 by 4’s with screws1 foot on the outside and 2 foot on the inside. Used the 2 to 1 ratio on the size of 2 by 4’s. I did cut the ugly parts off of the old 2 by 4’s. Turn out real nice. His example shows that it can be done with a little work. Just do the research and figure out the best practice way to do it..

[@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127]

so you became a suicide Commando ,take no hosted ,don't calls us we'll call you hostage negotiator see you @ the other side ,are signs of a Ninja

[@TheMommymc4]

Thanks for the information on how to repair a rafter tail. I bet my husband and son there was a cost effective and sensible way to fix the problem and your video shows them it can absolutely be done.

[@dekonfrost7]

Thank you for your input, but do note if the damage is near the top plate of the supporting wall that's another issue. Please note this difference.

[@TheMommymc4]

It's approximately the last 8 inches of the tail that needs repair before we can replace soffits and hang new gutters.

[@dekonfrost7]

Yes than this will be more than enough to help you. Please note that the use of a framing nail gun is recommended and as many as 10 nails per foot and a minimum of 2 feet connection with the truss so for you each piece would be 2'8" long. Glad I could help.

[@deankirwan9265]

Roxanne McIlvaine nbbuuh

[@thehillbillyhoarder4996]

Nice video. Thank you for taking the time to make and post

[@bmm8336]

I was thinking the same exact thing, why he didn't cut out the rot.... I was told that the rot is basically cancer for wood and it will keep on spreading unless you cut it out

[@jmlgas]

It would of been cool to see what you did on repairing.

[@robviolin1]

Very helpful, thanks 👍

[@gregneils4203]

thanks for quick tutorial

[@mblgxyz5923]

looks like you've been wearing that jacket for 45 years

[@lpuccio]

As a builder with over 30 years experience I would have had my Carpenter remove all the rot

[@barry7413]

Really! I can't believe he did not cut off all the rotten tails. That rot will continue to spread until the whole roof and rafters need replacing.

[@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127]

@@barry7413 no it won't , if it look dry , and solid to nail ,you get 20 more year

[@kellywhite9278]

Who knows what he did, he didn't show us.

[@MrGrey-dx5sb]

***Good job check what i build on Instagram @joeyturnerdetails stay blessed my friend GN***

[@huejanus5505]

@@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127 The fungus/mold that rots wood reactivates with humidity, it doesn’t only happen with a leak.

[@gavynhohman5720]

Very informative. Thank you sir.

[@frankhenderson4274]

it might be a good idea to actually see the replace of the rafter tail. All I've seen is the camera waving all over the place and then the job is done?

[@JungleYT]

Totally agree... Slightly sloppy presentation

[@dekonfrost7]

It's always a good idea to cut out any rotten wood, I gutnout as much as I can to ensure that i didn't leave a colony. But mostly so I can identify weak vs strong areas of framing. I don't bother to cut out rotten wood as I go. I set the depth gauge on my saw then I cut them off after I'm done sistering the rafters. Also this rot wasn't from termites it was from plain old wood rot from being wet.

[@MrUsaer]

LIke the tip about sistering first and then cut off the rotten ends. I can use that one on fixing mine this week.

[@elifire4147]

It's called mold which is a severe health issue.

[@dekonfrost7]

Eli Fire lol you ever been in a attic in your life ? Do you know anything? About anything ? Get real wood with no moisture wont support mycelial or mold growth, let alone being pasteurized by the sun in the summer

[@mikescatena5732]

I got a question, you opened up the shingles and paper quite a bit, I’ll be doing this myself on a flip home is it a problem to leave the roof open to the elements as long as I’m not worried about the interior of the house? Should I cover with a tarp?

[@dekonfrost7]

@@mikescatena5732 i ideally if you do not replace the roof in its entirety, and its an asphalt shingle. You can use weather watch or an ice. And water shield under the last course of shingles. A tarp etc is good if it covers the entire roof, but then to fasten it down securely makes more holes then the trouble its worth. Spend money on ice and water shield not tarps. Keep the wood dry as much as is possible

[@joenino3]

i dont agree with everything you said as far as methods and efficiency but I respect that you're taking care of your customer. And thats all that matters. Keep it up Brother

[@dekonfrost7]

+joe nino on this little job yea. You're definetly right. I did a whare house or two and I'm on the east coat. Wood framing and when you have 70 or 80 of these per side and they needed a new roof 20 years ago this helps a lot.

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

"pretty common problem" nowonder if soffit is totally closed and no ventilation so tiny bit moisture will rotten those rafter tails because they are in cavity which traps moisture in.

[@elifire4147]

We had a vented roof and they rotted.

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

@@elifire4147 If rafter tail is cut to plumb it gets wet almost every time rain. Cut those tails to 90 degree from roof pitch and they will last much longer.

[@hectorgalvan7614]

its cause they didnt use drip metal when did the roofing

[@johnwhite2576]

@@mr.wizeguy8995 good luck hanging gutters though ......

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

@@johnwhite2576 What luck that gutter what you are using was common here in 1970s no one uses those anymore. We use half round gutter with outside hangers which are also adjustable for every roof pitch.

[@coolaxe-dw4840]

great Job

[@laureennichols6394]

Thank you tip.

[@thundermuffin8365]

how's the ventilation

[@truthbknwn]

I still don't get what you did to the rafter tails.

[@matthewfarrell.9956]

We will take your word for it.but can you try keep camara still for a moment or two.

[@riffdex]

My house has faux rafter tails. What’s the purpose of having faux as opposed to simply having a slightly longer rafter with a tail? Does it protect the Main roof rafters from getting rotted by the elements? Does it make the rafters slightly stronger by not spanning such a great distance?

[@dekonfrost7]

Honestly… it’s something you would beed to describe better or post a link to a pic. Some are extended with a triangle, like french construction to extend the eves, some are merely extensions because the original modern built 75’ or later homes had eves that used to ice dam. So there are many scenarios with which this could be.

[@mikezaloudek3011]

The trusses are at an angle, do you cut the top of the fascia at a slight angle also? If not how do you keep the plywood from turning up at the edge slightly? I suppose you could drop it down 1/4". Wish you could have shown that part. Thanks for the video.

[@dekonfrost7]

That's a good question. For low slope like 1/4" of fall per foot like this video I simply pull it back a bit until there is a void between why would made a angle between the front of the fascia and slope of the roof. You could also let it pass by a little here because the drip edge would cover it. On steep slope roofing like 12/12" or greater I often dress the top edge of the fascia like you suggest. It makes for an awesome job and if you have a portable table saw is a relatively easy task. Albeit time consuming. Thanks for watching

[@jordanbergmann4067]

Mike Zaloudek you plane down the tail with your speed square till it lines up with the top of the fascia when youre hanging it.

[@denniscavanaugh8617]

8 26 14 Thank you. A well-done, simple and very well detailed/explained repair video. (detail so important) I have been around this profession most of my life but never was it my forte. Now I (older Fernando) have this exact problem so I opened up a corner, took a looksee, and thought I might just go across the entire eave but go in only a board or two (old summer home but been my home for 35 years) till next summer. But after your video I realized I will need to go in much deeper so that I can have the room to get the job done right. Keep it up.

[@NightSky777]

Which do you recommend be done First: Drip Edging (directly on the roof deck) or the Felt and drip edging over the felt? Thanks!

[@dekonfrost7]

Well, there are a few different things to consider are you in Florida or Alaska ? I personally work Maryland PA Virginia and Pennsylvania. So on asphalt shingles I like to drip edge first then at a minimum 30 lb felt over the drip edge. Or start the eves with ice and water shield in case of ice damming. The fact is that the biggest thing is that the paper go all the way to the eve as close to perfect as possible. To evacuate water that gets behind shingles best as possible.

[@dekonfrost7]

Well, there are a few different things to consider are you in Florida or Alaska ? I personally work Maryland PA Virginia and Pennsylvania. So on asphalt shingles I like to drip edge first then at a minimum 30 lb felt over the drip edge. Or start the eves with ice and water shield in case of ice damming. The fact is that the biggest thing is that the paper go all the way to the eve as close to perfect as possible. To evacuate water that gets behind shingles best as possible.

[@dekonfrost7]

[@dekonfrost7]

Well, there are a few different things to consider are you in Florida or Alaska ? I personally work Maryland PA Virginia and Pennsylvania. So on asphalt shingles I like to drip edge first then at a minimum 30 lb felt over the drip edge. Or start the eves with ice and water shield in case of ice damming. The fact is that the biggest thing is that the paper go all the way to the eve as close to perfect as possible. To evacuate water that gets behind shingles best as possible.

[@dekonfrost7]

Well, there are a few different things to consider are you in Florida or Alaska ? I personally work Maryland PA Virginia and Pennsylvania. So on asphalt shingles I like to drip edge first then at a minimum 30 lb felt over the drip edge. Or start the eves with ice and water shield in case of ice damming. The fact is that the biggest thing is that the paper go all the way to the eve as close to perfect as possible. To evacuate water that gets behind shingles best as possible.

[@talent3036]

Wish I could’ve seen you change the rafters

[@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127]

nice ,have you seen russian framing ? it looks good

[@dennishnks]

I was on the ladder and grabbed my gutter and it just all came down. I just had to do that to mine and the reason I found out because the people didn't keep the gutters clean and the drip edge was installed incorrectly

[@Brandon-no3vc]

Do you ever have to re level the house?

[@stevenmorris2293]

So you didn't repair the rafter tails ? What was the point of this video ?

[@spruce_goose5169]

While it would probably be a good idea (certainly not a bad one) to remove the rotted wood, Its important to realize that rot (which is a fungal growth) requires moisture to thrive and grow. The spores that seed rot are everywhere. The key to keeping wood from rotting is keeping it below a certain moisture content. There is no such thing as 'dry-rot' in regards to wood. It is a misnomer. This is not to say, 'yes leave all that rotted wood', only to clarify the mechanism of decay so it can be properly guarded against.

[@logmeindangit]

You're quite right. Calling wood that has decayed due to prolonged exposure to excessive moisture, "dry rot" is very misleading, and a better descriptor should be adopted by us all. "Wet rot" is correct. For fun, calling it, "Got damp rot" would at least give a chuckle to a carpenter having to repair the damage. My next quest is to get people to stop calling sublimation* of water in frozen foods, "freezer burn." Nothing was burned, it was just extremely dehydrated because it was not sealed well enough in a modern freezer that has a frost-free feature. That feature keeps the humidity in the freezer so low that the ice actually evaporates, so that it never builds up to the point where it has to be defrosted to remove it, like in freezers of half a century or more ago. *Sublimation: This is when a substance changes phases from a solid to a gas without becoming a liquid in between. Tungsten, and some other metals with high melting points, can be heated to glowing in a vacuum, and will evaporate without melting. As they so, they radiate away their precious solid state as though melting and evaporating, and the metal "gas" radiates away from the hot source to land on whatever object is in the line-of-sight and is cooler. For fun, and a little science knowledge, do a web search for "tungsten sublimation pump." It is used as one step in creating a very low pressure in a vacuum chamber. Freezer burn. Pushaw. Dry rot. Nonsense! Military intelligence? Next time...

[@Dax66]

Im wondering why you did not mention cutting out as much of the rotted tail as possible and treating the last bit. Is this something that should’ be done?

[@dekonfrost7]

The fact is that these are improvised commentaries. That i use for explanations in work i sell and i share with the yourube community for nothing. I dont even get coffee money anymore.

[@wascowasco5312]

I didn’t see how you sandwich new rafter tails??????

[@jellyboy123]

what you could done is cut the rot out using a saw and with the health part of the rafter i would attach a piece of wood to the rafter to make it jut out like before . if you go to 1:08 of this video you done what i'm talking about right at the end of the rafter.

[@jasonconnett3710]

What if you are only doing fascia and a few rafter tails are rotted. Do you have to open the roof up to replace the fascia? Is there enough room to sister rafters without opening the roof up like in this vid?

[@dekonfrost7]

It can be done, palm nailer and being creative will help

[@johnwierman9570]

You mentioned about a sub fascia. Please tell me in full, or do a video. I'm soon replacing a out building roof with tail rot and fascia rot. I seen only one other video that installed it. but no references were mentioned. I live in central Pa. Thankyou

[@dekonfrost7]

John. An fascia is a piece of 2x" that is screwed or nailed in as fascia normally a2x6" then a piece of 1x6/1x7/1x8"that would be painted or wrapped. The sub fascia adds a tremendous amount of strength to the eve, very important in a roof located in areas where snow will sit on the eves. Hope this is enough of an answer

[@MrUsaer]

Have a garage that was added on to the house. It used two 1 x 6's instead of the 2 x 6 and 1 x 6 as was used on the house itself where it joins to the garage. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the garage and house did not line up exactly even.

[@arkansastrash320]

Cutting all the replacement rafter tails as you call them is a good ideal.But you must find atleast one good one to get the right measurement so they are all the same.And if you have a lot of them bad the frist one you fix can be a measure point for all the rest to be nailed not cut thats done frist.I got a porch thats a real mess to fix.Hope I can.

[@TurboMountTV]

Can you not use pressure treated wood for the fascia or other parts up here?

[@RepairRenovateRenew]

if you are in the middle of a forest, probably not. the suburbs of southern california, sure. all depends how long you want the work done to last

[@TurboMountTV]

@@RepairRenovateRenew The it should be other way around no? Pressure treated will last.

[@mikelimo2478]

how did u fixe it u didn’t show how 😁

[@BurtBowers]

Hey bud, from what you show on that rafter tails that you said & shown that you had sister in look's horrible... it still look's like wood rot is there on the wood... why couldn't you have just went another foot back while having everything apart & done the job right?

[@elifire4147]

Nailed it.

[@lancomedic]

Old video I know but I need to do this to my shed before the roofer comes to replace the roof. In the video you said that the fascia supports the plywood. Does this mean that the top of the fascia should be higher than the end of the rafter?

[@dekonfrost7]

No ideally they would be on the same plane. The fascia if a 2x should have a bevel cut on it. So it is flat and supports the plywood, having only the edge of the fascia support the plywood is better then nothing.

[@lancomedic]

@@dekonfrost7 Thanks, It will be a 1x and will be replacing a 5/8" plywood paneling fascia that has rotted away in spots. I can bevel it on the table saw. The bigger task will be sistering the rafter tails which are notched and tapered.

[@dekonfrost7]

@@lancomedic simple fact you are talking about the birds mouth and that’s a different story. If the wood Is good at the birds mouth this method will serve you. If the birds mouth is rotten you need to stop and repair it and that’s where a bigger amount of effort comes in. If the wood for the birdsmouth is good then just having something going into the framing a little ways will support the fascia. And that’s really important

[@lancomedic]

@@dekonfrost7 Thanks, I get it. Fortunately the birds mouth is good. It's only the tips of the tail that's a little soft.

[@davep2167]

i would put some vents in the soffit, so the problem doesn't happen again, without proper air flow it will be a mess in a couple of years

[@BlueGamerDude]

or just skip the soffit.

[@LarsonFishing]

I am having this same exact issue on my house, only the problem area is 2 stories! Dont even know where to begin as I'm not experienced, and insurance will not cover this, so scared... Any advice would be a blessing. Thank you!

[@dekonfrost7]

Steve Lars well steve im glad to help you as much as possible. A detailed description would help. Are you going to repair the roof yourself? What period is the construction? Glad to help.

[@BlueGamerDude]

or you paint the rafter tails?

[@sparkyjones560]

I really like that you skipped fixing the rafter tails in the video. That's why I was fuckin here it see what I could do. Thanks for nothing.

[@dekonfrost7]

John, let me just chime in here. 1st this is not a how to. This is an explanation video. And shows that plywood needs to be supported by the fascia/sub fascia to prevent drooping and wicking of water, causing rot. The fact is if you have engineered rafters you can pre make peices of wood follow a string line and sister them in place. I make these videos for people to expand thier knoweledge. This video coupled with a few more and your own ingenuity and im sure you will be just fine.

[@waynestephens1091]

It's probably because he didn't know how to fix it..lol this video was not helpful it was common Sense everybody should already know this this video was useless

[@Mixwell1983]

How can you sis turn on another board when the rafter tails are stuck in some stucco wouldn't that move your rafter fell over by inch and a half or the thickness of the to buy material I need to repair the rafter but I can't move it over because of Stucco issues on the outside of the house so how could you do that or fix that

[@dekonfrost7]

Honestly its way more involved. This was never a how to video. It was making a point about the purpose of fascia and how without it how rot occors on the de king and rafter tails. To do what you want one way would be if the roof at the ece was sokid remove the bottom shjngles slates etc. Then glue and screw them to the roof deck to support new fascia. But it may or not be good advice for your specific situation.

[@craigwest3586]

What angle do you usually cut those tales?

[@dekonfrost7]

Craig West whatever angle leaves you with a plumb fascia.

[@billy9218]

Yes Diarrhea at the mouth for sure....how did you actually do the rafter repair!? Where is the footage? I know this is not a how to but it would’ve been great help.

[@amandacaporali5886]

when u sister them what are u using?screws?nails?

[@sixdsix5028]

Regardless of what he uses, nails are probably the safer option. Nails can bend more under stress, whereas screws tend to snap.

[@jonathancristobal4724]

Good information

[@dekonfrost7]

Thanks. I get a lot of heat because people expect a how to. And they forget there is an entire why to method of video making. A well supported eve has less likely hood of capilary action dipping or rot. Also much more atteactive. Thanks for the positive response.

[@usingerinamoapensis180]

Great video. Very informative.

[@jonienglish3231]

Good Video Did you BEVEL the EDGE of the FACIA ?to the Rafer Tails ? or you Set it Slightly BLOW the Rafter Tails ? Q2: Rafter Tails Spacing ??? 16" on Centre

[@dekonfrost7]

I often bevel the top edge of the fascia, always when i use a 2x most of the time when i use 1x sometimes if i have a table saw with me. If you use 1x you can push the fascia down a little to the outer edge of the fascia touches the edge of the plywood.

[@jonienglish3231]

@@dekonfrost7 Thanks how was the Old Rafter Spacing - 16" on Center ?

[@dekonfrost7]

Joni English depends on how lumber rich the area was. Sometimes tighter and sometimes every 4’. So ... modern building in US is typically 24” oc

[@jonienglish3231]

@@dekonfrost7 just building a garden shed - 12x10, ridge beam ( 8x2) with 6x2 rafters

[@adrlcsw]

How can you replace or repair if the roof is not opened up?

[@dekonfrost7]

Alanna Regan you will need at least to hve fascia and soffit removed and a way from the interior to support the truss if the damage goes further in then the soffit. But its tedious, but still not terribly difficult.

[@dynocompe]

you didnt cut the rot out? lol that rot will just continue up the rafters........ it doesnt stop once it starts unless all rot is removed.......... this is how NOT to repair a rafter tail. If you are going to take the time to take the roof apart, at least do the job right.

[@Mittzie]

dynocompe that's exactly what I was thinking... my husband is a carpenter and always removes rotted parts so it isn't continuing to rot...

[@dekonfrost7]

There is something wrong with your perspective. It is deeply negative and explanatory. Please I encourage you to make your own videoed

[@electricalron]

Too many negative Nancy's on KZbin.

[@walkingweapon]

dekonfrost7 For those of us trying to learn, what is wrong with the perspective of the commenter? Just because it's negative doesn't mean it's wrong. I had the same thought about cutting out the rot and came to the comments to see what others had to offer.

[@gorkyd7912]

I don't think cutting the rotted wood out actually stops rot more than simply preventing any more moisture from saturating. But it would at least stop any moisture or biology (if any) still in the rotten wood from being in direct contact with the new wood.

[@stanleysiewierski]

Water may back up into rafter again. Wouldn't it be wise to use pressure treated wood for the sistered rafter end, fascia and plywood edge? Yes it's a little extra money but in this country the cost of labor is horrendous and would justify its use.

[@dekonfrost7]

Treated lumber is for whennyou know that it will experience water. A properly built roof protects the framing from water. So I treated lumber wouldn't help here. The cost of highly skilled labor in America is the culmination of years spent in the craft and continual reinvestment in tooling and development of future generations of building. Competition makes these costs fair to consumers who wish to find good work at a competitive cost.

[@Mittzie]

stanley siewierski ^ to add to that it depends on the wood itself, if your lucky and are in an area you can get cedar boards they will last a lifetime kept dry! The barn we have was built in the 20s the wood still looks almost new it's a mix of cedar pine and hardwoods depending on the feature your looking at, and the wood still looks brand new even in the weather damaged spot once you get past the damaged area on the door (door corner broke so it has some rot from the unpainted wood being exposed, because of how that was built it's an easy fix just have to pop a couple of the boards off and replace them) the interior of the rest of the doors look AMAZING still you'd never guess it was almost 100 off the look or condition of the wood on it (the concrete is a different matter entirely it's busted up pretty good lol)

[@patriciawoolard2263]

Like it

[@rbr6852]

Try cutting the facia 90 deg to the rafter so the water doesn't run down the facia maybe?

[@dekonfrost7]

+Roger Broström what do you mean?

[@dekonfrost7]

Na our gutters would not work. With this style of fascia. We use k gutters in the states rare that we use round gutters here.

[@danielshepherd4436]

Thanks!

[@hollyeliot3538]

Good short instruction - thank you!

[@antonet8008]

Wth should show how to do it, cause im a roofer and would like to know this sheet

[@northwestgardener5076]

He missed the drip edge metal that would prevent this from happening at all. They didn't create edge metal to look good it saves you like the bible

[@northwestgardener5076]

And this is why we don't build them like they use to again.

[@telosfd]

Why you didn't add a piece of beam in the side of the end of the rafters to rienforce them?

[@steveseger5642]

Did I fall asleep. Where was the rafter tail replacement.

[@dekonfrost7]

Thanks Daniel I hope this little vid helped you in some way

[@richs1936]

Diarrhea at the mouth, a picture is 1000 words! the actual part of repair you did not show!

[@ipeeinmysinkimafraidtocome7127]

you didn't pay attention stop looking @ the sky ,the words he used are words of experience

[@waynestephens1091]

I call b*******

[@martinmarin841]

U didn't show how to fix it

[@clebermedeiros5859]

Well done job, I live in Brazil, and I would like to make a roof like this in my house, and I would like to know, what is the minimum distance that should leave between the ceiling and the OSB, thanks in advance

[@BeyondBiochar]

now splice some sleeve tails on that sweatshirt

[@dekonfrost7]

Ha ha ha good one. But I never let anything go to waste not even my old sweatshirts.

[@chotunab]

The most important thing in this video was how to fix the rafter tail and you just skipped through it

[@Heavyglare]

What happened to the rafter tails? Did you just attach to the rotted ones? Why did you go from start to finished without showing the middle which was the important part to me for watching this video...

[@dekonfrost7]

+Heavyglare Eyewear I'm sorry the video skipped that part. I've gotten a lot of criticism about it. But the fact is that I made this video as a point of interest, why something should be a certain way and not another. Rafter tails and bird mouth cuts ... I could make a series on them. And I've compiled a lot more videos since this video on the subject. But as I'm a working tradesman I find myself short on time to share it. If you have any questions I'll find time to answer them as soon as I can and as detailed as possible

[@dekonfrost7]

+Heavyglare Eyewear the simple fact of the matter is that this video explains the importance of having the roof decking lay securely on the fascia. With a fair amount of forensics, as to why the roof sheathing failed. You always should cut out as much rotten wood as you can. If you can't get it all but you cut off the supply of water then the framing will be just fine. I'm sorry I haven't had much time to make more of these videos. Please stay tuned unmade some more detailed videos this summer. This time I'll try and edit them better.

[@saulcarrasco6279]

WTF u didn't show the actual repairs

[@pattybaker3852]

If by chance the rafter has rotted into the gusset area, is there a fix for that? Will email a photo, to get your opinion.

[@pattybaker3852]

+Patty Baker Shucks there's no way to send the photo since you don't have a visible email.

[@pattybaker3852]

Oh dear, What does "Ballon Fran" mean?

[@dekonfrost7]

I apologize for the poor spell check. When the rot reaches the gussets or plates you need to replace that rafter.or at least add the strength back into the roof by adding a rafter back into the roof or by framing a new balloon framed rafter in place. Please research balloon framing. It means to frame from within an existing building envelope. A hassle but easily accomplished if the roof is open and being replaced. 3/4" or 1/2" plywood makes a good gusset as long as you use glue and some nails.

[@dekonfrost7]

I apologize for the poor spell check. When the rot reaches the gussets or plates you need to replace that rafter.or at least add the strength back into the roof by adding a rafter back into the roof or by framing a new balloon framed rafter in place. Please research balloon framing. It means to frame from within an existing building envelope. A hassle but easily accomplished if the roof is open and being replaced. 3/4" or 1/2" plywood makes a good gusset as long as you use glue and some nails.

[@dekonfrost7]

I apologize for the poor spell check. When the rot reaches the gussets or plates you need to replace that rafter.or at least add the strength back into the roof by adding a rafter back into the roof or by framing a new balloon framed rafter in place. Please research balloon framing. It means to frame from within an existing building envelope. A hassle but easily accomplished if the roof is open and being replaced. 3/4" or 1/2" plywood makes a good gusset as long as you use glue and some nails.

[@edt5276]

Devoted 2 minutes to explain why he used a chop saw, then couldn't spare any time to show important stuff.

[@bigpardner]

I'm not a carpenter so any comment is impractical overkill I'm sure. What was the situation that caused this? Would it be worthwhile to paint the end parts of the rafter tails, at least the end grain? Would it be worthwhile to angle the top edge of the fascia to fit tight against the plywood sheathing, maybe even caulk the joint when you put it together? BTW, which do you nail in first, the fascia or the plywood?

[@bigpardner]

Very nice video. now I know what that area looks like.

[@jackmehoffer7819]

How to talk about sister ing a roof rafter without actually showing it.

[@stephenlewis3720]

You never sealed the dry rotted rails of the trusses. Open house for termite,

[@dekonfrost7]

Well actually since you know so much the owners buddy had a guy spray the entire property after I left. And it's masonary on both sides. Where's the mud tube gonna go undetected????

[@BlueGamerDude]

my house is 110 years old with exposed rafter tails. no facia and its fine

[@dekonfrost7]

Well what species of wood are your rafters made from? Sap wood 🌲? I bet not. Glad to hear how a totally dissimilar-structure doesn’t benefit from my explanation. I wonder if your building was made entirely of concrete or steel framing if you would have been ridiculous enough to comment.

[@BlueGamerDude]

@@dekonfrost7 its made from pine i would say. All it needs is some paint and it will last. Pine is also rotressistant. Sap wood or heart wood doesnt matter on pine

[@dekonfrost7]

BlueGamer Dude might want to do some more reading. More then pine. And your lumber ist heartwood. Not sapwood. But thats why you are here to become educated

[@dekonfrost7]

You are wrong wrong wrong.

[@BlueGamerDude]

old growth scandinavian lumber. not america crap wood

[@edwardschmitt5710]

I would have used Azek.

[@oby-1607]

Drip edge? Flashing? There was a cause for all this rot. It is called water. If the water is allowed to leak in or wick back to the lumber, you get rot. Fix the underlying cause.

[@rviau2351]

You skipped over the most important part. 🤨

[@johnvalentinocruz4467]

how did you fixed the rotten end of rafter?

[@dekonfrost7]

John Valentino Cruz ahh a real question. You said the death of an inch and a half you find out where the wood is clean and you make a cut their soul and off the Rottenwood after the new rafters in place

[@vernoninteriano1287]

Did not show the topic of your video !!

[@dekonfrost7]

Of course i did.

[@chadcooper9116]

Why oh why did they ever do away with planks for the roof sheeting??! The older homes all had planks. Moving sheets of OSB sucks and you have to pull back the roof farther if you ever half to replace anything. Another example of the old timers doing it better.

[@dekonfrost7]

The simple fact of things is this. There are 7 billion people who need housing. And the osb provides a strong durable substrate for a roof, if installed correctly. Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart.

[@lucreciaflores351]

You did NOT show where you cut the rotted rafters off nor how you reconnected the partial rafters! Boooooooo AND you talk too much!

[@carsongoodman5581]

Lucrecia Flores it’s not a how to video. It’s informative. Booo you can’t read

[@elifire4147]

He didn't cut them off he left the rotten moldy wood inside the structure so the slightest moisture intrusion will cause huge blooms poisoning the inhabitants and causing the rot to jump straight in to the shiney new sister tails.

[@randomaxe662]

Keep the camera still while you're talking since it's nauseating to watch handheld video, and do alot more editing to keep on point (remove the rambling talk and jumble of video shots).

[@funkoff5]

He's on a ladder dipshit!Some of u people r dumb as fuck,u don't like it don't watch!

[@rickwoodcock2146]

can you come fix my roof in Severna Park?

[@dekonfrost7]

What kind of roof?

[@rickwoodcock2146]

+dekonfrost7 composit three tab. Text me and I will send pictures. 443-883-0107.

[@Eeropolvasti]

Good job...., but...., did you leave those rotten stumps there??? You should cut rotten parts out looks terrible downsite!!!

[@dougiequick1]

Yeah WHAT did he do or not do??? Not sharing THAT...totally unsatisfying video! Could at the very LEAST have shown at least ONE rafter tail repaired! Just ONE even...thanks for NOTHING is my comment

[@Eeropolvasti]

Yep, , same here....., video and work was not good...=((

[@Mike1614b]

those are truss tails

[@mondavou9408]

Didn't video the actual part folks want to see or show your work!? Ha ha ha

[@hollyhawk8682]

Stop talking and get on with It!

[@qstrian]

Hallelujah! That’s my next outbuilding project.