Rage 2 Analysis: Is 1080p60 The Best Use of Xbox One X and PS4 Pro?

Rage 2 presents a different take on multi-platform game development. Rather than focusing on higher resolutions for the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, developer Avalanche has opted instead to double the frame-rate instead. Was it worth it? What is the price of 60 frames per second?
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[@WickedRibbon]

Shout out to the devs for focusing on frame-rate over resolution. It's quite the technical achievement, on what is now aging hardware.

[@aaroncuckstain9845]

@@MirzaKhalid huh? since when is Wolfenstein open world with vehicle combat?

[@E.G.M_]

@@MirzaKhalid mad max wasnt a bad game people just hate having to take down multiple bosses or having to get scrap to buy the engine parts

[@E.G.M_]

@@MirzaKhalid ill be honest and say my gamepass ran out when i got on the last mission and i didnt know he died but the driving did get better the more you upgraded your car its not supposed to be the best one right out of the game but i agree with the melee combat but it wasnt that bad

[@E.G.M_]

@@MirzaKhalid but you could upgrade the shotgun to hold enough ammo did you upgrade it all the way?

[@tek3576]

the tech for both were already old when they first came out lol

[@norbertcsorba4639]

1:40 Rage 1 was realy 60 fps on PS3 and 360? thats impressive.

[@KingOfTheWiadro]

Yes, it was. It worked very well.

[@chinchy111]

Yet most ps4 and xbox one games still arent 60 fps. Such limited hardware

[@rafaeljerez6260]

It was! But at the cost of texture quality and other stuff... but still was a pretty good game, me personally always preffer 60fps over resolution

[@norbertcsorba4639]

@@rafaeljerez6260 i just started playing my old 360 library and Far Cry Instincts Predator on 360.... oh boy

[@rafaeljerez6260]

@@norbertcsorba4639 old glories my friend never dies! I am always jumping from old systems to new ones and man! Makes me super happy!

[@CaptainEggcellent]

Give me 1080p 60fps over 4k any day.

[@lolol123lolol100]

Do you have 4k screen?

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@Klumsy Kameleon Is that still the java browser plug in version?!?

[@TheFirestriker101]

15:58

[@craftycraff7938]

We stan! 30fps makes me sick and hurts my eyes

[@club4ghz]

Human eye can't see more than 720p 24 fps

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Performance is always the best choice

[@MostlyPennyCat]

30fps or 60fps, just ensure that's the primary focus. But really, "performance first" pretty much sums it up. Bollocks to resolution, take what you can get an be happy with it.

[@jonathanmora8208]

Amen brother

[@playstationnation1515]

Nope

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@@jonathanmora8208 _testifies_

[@dk06ctr]

Would rather 4k and higher details than 60fps should have had a choice in options so no buy for me until they do.

[@Samurix16]

I love the 60 FPS and the 1080p does not bother me. I play the same way on forza horizon 4.

[@andyward8430]

I really thought I was going to play horizon 4 at 60 FPS but the motion blur is so well done at 30 FPS and the frame rate is so consistent that I prefer the 4K mode with the extra visual flourishes. Gears of war 4 on the other hand was so much better at 60 fps. I can’t wait for next gen when we’ll finally (hopefully) not have to choose one or the other on consoles.

[@MetalJody1990]

1080p is perfectly fine, as long as the AA is high quality.

[@blakecartwright8090]

Ultrawide 120 or 144 fps 3440x1440 is the absolute sweetest spot and most immersive I think. As long as you have 3 or 4 grand to drop on a rig and alienware, lg or Samsung monitor that is of course

[@stevebrown7877]

Most gamers do, the ones that know what they’re taking about and understand do anyway

[@suiton20]

I find it difficult to play forza horizon 4 at 30fps. Tried it on my brothers Xbox one. Too much input delay. Sometimes I’m late on my turn in causing me to lose the race. If you race with A class or higher(assuming you’re not wall riding or engine upgrades only) in unbeatable difficulty+ no assists, you need 60+ FPS

[@jonathan9951]

I will anyday choose 1080p 60fps over 4k 30fps

[@__G___]

Because you are poor and cant afford 4k tech 😂

[@gregoryross9770]

@@__G___ I just said that lol😂

[@Samurix16]

Same

[@moniumus6303]

Lalala He just prefers faster gameplay. Thats it

[@aldinoindra2742]

@@__G___ You said others poor while you play on your plastic toy box instead of functional personal computer tools....

[@pagb666]

RAGE was a marvel to behold in past gen, with its rock solid 60fps on the 360/PS3, it was its staple.

[@HiCZoK]

The way shooting feels and enemies react to being hit is unparalleled in Rage1. The artstyle, ai, graphics and sound are also exceptional

[@joeywalker2061]

Rage 2 has better mechanics in my opinion especially playing them back to back because rage 1 is on game pass now. The special abilities and lighting fast gameplay is hypnotic to me at least very similar to doom.

[@CyborgSodaCollects]

Most definitely

[@JustAnotherLee]

Been saying it since the release of these mid-gen consoles. 1080p 60fps over 4k 30fps every time. Sure 4k looks nice but basically everything else feels and looks better at 60fps. Gameplay at 60fps is just 100x more enjoyable, and since we play games not watch them 60fps only makes sense.

[@randyrrs7028]

framerates over resolution any day

[@JayJapanB]

In a lot of titles the consoles are probably just hampered by the cpu. Especially the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro. 4k 30 doesn't always equate to 1080p 60.

[@sagittarius4765]

from my point of view, 60 fps really only matters in FPS games. I have RDR 2 for my xbox one x, play it on my 85 inch 4k tv, it looks fucking gorgeous and the game obviously runs in 30 fps but I would not trade that beauty for 60 fps.

[@starsky8351]

It should be an option, I just cant play 60fps it just looks horrid to me. Plus the low res on a 4k tv its VERY blurry. I had to return it as I just couldnt play it

[@JustAnotherLee]

@@sagittarius4765 Completely fair.

[@BlackAera]

Artstyle > resolution and I will take 1080p 60 over 1440p 30 any day

[@vandammage1747]

Rage was 720p60(x360) Rage 2 is 1080p30(ps4) Rage was much more impressive and had great artstyle.

[@sammyflinders]

I'll take 1440/90fps on my PC instead

[@MrGoldenfresh]

Rather want a dynamic resolution from 4K AND 60FPS

[@TurnerTurnip]

@Raios Rogue- I wouldn't even attempt to play it at 30FPS. Broken games do not appeal to me. I'd rather play at 720p if it means achieving 60fps.

[@grimwatcher]

Amen

[@pranavshinde6444]

All we need is Framerate over the Resolution

[@chucktownattack]

@John Doe No one is saying 4K is bs. We're just all saying that we would much rather use these older ( "junk" lmao) consoles at 1080p60fps than 4k30(barely)fps. I own a 1080p/60hz monitor, 1440p/144hz, and a 4k panel. Guess which I use for my Xbox X?

[@Bendaak]

I’d pick framerate / graphical fidelity over resolution any day. I have a 55” 4K TV & and Xbox X and I don’t see any difference between that and my OG PS4 as I sit 2.5 meters away from the TV. 4K only truly matters if you’re up close to your TV/monitor which is why it’s so important for PC gamers.

[@murilofonseca1385]

xbox one shit x "its a monster"??? Kkkkkkkk

[@chucktownattack]

@All my heroes are villains They're both IPS displays and yea... even on PC. 4K has failed in my eyes.

[@chucktownattack]

@All my heroes are villains I run 1440p. It's literally a pain in my ass to change out to a 4K monitor just to watch a Bluray. If I could go back in time I'd unbuy my 4K display and only buy the 1440p. But I wanted the "true experience" all these fucking commenters made to be some magical thing. It's not and it's at 30fps on the consoles MAX.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

This graphics engine is really impressive. Bethesda should buy it for Elder Scrolls VI

[@phant0mdummy]

The game runs like ass tho.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

@@phant0mdummy I bet You it runs amazing on PS 5.

[@MidniteMeatBus]

@@phant0mdummy it runs great on pc

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@phant0mdummy I had 60fps at 1080p ultra settings with some dips on a gtx 1070.

[@stephonhines3013]

@@sheldoncooper8199 sorry it’s locked to 60 lmao

[@paul-antoine_]

Forgot the ps4 « PRO » logo at 14:40 But Nice analysis as always :-)

[@MegaFinalRound]

Would’ve loved that resolution though.

[@kris24_lawson]

@@MegaFinalRound Frame rate you mean, because ps4 and ps4 pro run at the same resolution.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

Was gonna comment the same.

[@ARYAN-jv7hb]

Thank u Sherlock 😂✌

[@edtauch6167]

Yeah had me a tad confused at first. Maybe it can be fixed?

[@badonkadonk8212]

Thanks for the quick work digital foundry, great work.

[@GamerInVoid]

Finally ! Thanks Digital foundry ! Though I am a PC player, I just like these videos from you.

[@ndrinks5550]

"Rather heavy on the GPU" is an understatement, my machine sounds like it's preparing for takeoff as soon as the game starts. It's a good looking game, but it's not *that* good looking which makes me think something isn't quite right.

[@blessedred]

Clean your system

[@BonesBrigader]

You can take the cover off of the top tier of the Pro and clean the fan easy. Opening the bottom tier of the Pro you can get to the Heatsink to clean it but you have to take out the Motherboard to get to it which is the problem. The dirty Heatsink is the main reason why your Pro is performing the way it is with the loud noise. Hope that helps.

[@jessomadcity2815]

@@BonesBrigader What are the risks for cleaning up the inside of the system? My Pro is 4 months old so I don't think it's time for clean up yet, but, it's inevitable for dust build up. Is there a filter I can use to prevent it from getting clogged?

[@BonesBrigader]

@@jessomadcity2815 I don't know of any filter you could use but i do know keeping your system off the ground (Why anyone would do that in the first place os beyond me) and keeping the area around your system free of dust helps. Also investing in a $30 black and decker dust buster for electeonics to suck out the dust from the intakes instead of blowing it inward. Or any other mini vacuum you can get your hands on. The latest PS4 pro's were made to be quieter so if you keep ir dust free on a daily basis you should be ok. If you simply dust the area around your systen often you should be fine.

[@BonesBrigader]

As far as the risks of opening your system you won't null and void the warranty by opening the top tier to clean the fan but opening the bottom to get to your heatsink will void the warranty. There are plenty of walkthrough videos you can find when providing maintenance.

[@justmetal227]

This game is a perfect candidate for next gen to see it really shine. Anyways PC has their backs with 4K 60+. But I get that they made the right decisions to deliver

[@stam1ska]

Not really, ordinary graphics with unacceptable optimization for base consoles.

[@thingsiplay]

I'm glad to play on PC with adaptive sync, 144Hz and 1440p.

[@bdre5555]

No one cares

[@thingsiplay]

@@bdre5555 ???

[@Bunuffin]

oh yeah boi... i don't like slide shows

[@swishpronoob]

@@thingsiplay your comment makes it look like you are gloating.

[@silenthill4]

Freesync

[@Kyoku_Ryuu]

Yes!!! Finally a Dev Team that knows what gamers actually want! 60fps beats 4K , improved visuals and all that buzz words in console games! Amazing!

[@dk06ctr]

Nope speak for yourself would rather have the option at least of 4k 30

[@Kyoku_Ryuu]

@@dk06ctr Actually you're right! The option to have either 1080p/60fps or 4K/30 or maybe 1080p/30&improved visuals or something like that would be even better!! But most of the Devs stick to only 1 choice (4K/30fps) which sucks. If it's only one choice then i would prefer 60fps aaaaaaaaaaall the way!!!

[@ItsAkile]

Finally something to be impressed by, good stuff Avalanche. Really nice to see a open world game cater to 60fps still have so many technical features, although blurry I think it's a pretty good achievement

[@kapilbusawah7169]

It's Akile catheter 🤣

[@ItsAkile]

@@kapilbusawah7169 Lmao, thanks for the heads up

[@TeeCee247]

I completely disagree. The game looks plain and blurry with X/Pro on a 75inch 4k display. Textures and geometry are last gen level und shadows pop in constantly when driving around the open world. I am vastly disappointed by the visuals, making it hard for me to enjoy the game, given there are so much better looking shooter alternatives that manage to pull off a good compromise between visuals and framerate. Far Cry 5 for example. For me this went too far. Would love to have the option to switch to a 30fps option with at least 1440p on X/Pro. Not missing the hdr support though, as the color palet has plenty of pop in sdr.

[@Frankenwookie]

I love the visual style of it and from a technical level it may be better than R1, but NPC outside of a few of the main characters are truly lacking to me. I like the NPC's in Rage one a bot more as far as level of detail.

[@ambro2786]

Most people dont have 4k displays let alone such a large one. Also depends how far you sit from it

[@konczdavid]

It's very annoying that the viewmodel/weapon FOV does not change by changing the base FOV, because it's extremely low, especially on an ultrawide monitor.

[@ZinhoMegaman]

Some devs lock the weapon fov so we couldn't see clipping. Duke Nukem Forever is a good example, if you use the max fov you see cuts in the weapon where nothing is draw, a real mess. But there is always modders who make weapon fov mods for most games.

[@Cronicrisis]

It's actually a common tactic in a lot of games

[@CabbageBloke]

60 Fps over 30 Fps every single time.

[@pierreo33]

Here's how you can get 4K AND 60fps (LIKE YOU WERE PROMISED BY MICROSOFT AND SONY) buy a PC!

[@luiscontreras1638]

@@pierreo33 shut up kid

[@Bannanas94]

@@pierreo33 Forget about 4k60, think bigger! Like 4k 144Hz, which is already a thing.

[@smashkommentiert]

@@luiscontreras1638 pc is the future kid

[@XGN05]

@@luiscontreras1638 Stick to your simplistic console kid.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

Can we just agree that Rage 1 was a graphical Masterpiece on it release day ?

[@raresmacovei8382]

Sheldon Cooper81 Except for tremendous animations and great character models, didn't find anything else amazing about it

[@TurnerTurnip]

@Sheldon Cooper81 - It was a graphical masterpiece. It was the first time in my life I had ever played an open world game at 60fps. Rage 1 felt so next gen at the time. I never thought an XBOX360 game could look so beautiful. And one of the main reasons for this is because Rage 1 was running at 60FPS.

[@ghost085]

From an artistic point of view it was great. From a technical point, not so much.

[@sheldoncooper8199]

@@TurnerTurnip Thanks for agreeing with me. Yeah it looked very next Gen like a day 1 X-Box One Game from October 2013.

[@yanceyboyz]

Selim Nazar on a technical level it wasn’t.....it was open world and ran at 60fps on PS3 and 360.....a frame rate that isn’t even that common on these enhanced consoles

[@userMishaZietsev]

You by far are one of the best comparison youtubers and your videos are always impressive and very informational. Keep up the great work man.

[@stonedtanooki2451]

Absolutely love the framerate on the Pro (and Xbox One X). Game would still be very fun at 30fps, but the 60fps really magnifies the awesomeness of the great gameplay! :) Really enjoying it right now. Even with 10 or more enemies on screen, explosions and objects flying around with the great feeling physics, it still stays super fluid for most of the time. Good stuff.

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

Rage 1 on my pc in 4k ultra at 60fps looks better to me,I just prefer the look of the characters and the details and sky look better also.This looks more Ubisoft like it’s hard to explain and it’s the way I see it,can’t believe it’s so many years since the last one!

[@Dick_Valparaiso]

1080/60 over 4K'ish/30 all day every day. Enjoy Pro and One X owners👍

[@__G___]

Bob is poor and cant afford 4k tech 😂 1080p 😂 hello 2008

[@murilofonseca1385]

*PS4 PRO WINS,xbox one shit x fail*

[@mrwalker6026]

On an open world barren shooter? I'd rather an increase in resolution to take in the world

[@markuschief4472]

There are many times when 4k/60 is totally possible...be native, dynamic or using a temporary reconstruction... And that is better than 1080p/60

[@blessedred]

@@__G___ you're an idiot

[@murphy_boy]

Performance should be always preferred over eye-candy, beautiful graphics. Thanks ID Software and avalanche studio for having such high understanding of video games.

[@fa1lstar663]

I'd still like a full 4k option, mostly for screenshots, but for fast paced fps games, 60fps is a must

[@j.r.1704]

I agree here with John at the end. I don’t understand why most Avalanche Studio games don’t have HDR. Just Cause 3 and Rage 2 have such vibrant color pallets that could look even better if HDR was supported. I really hope these two games in particular get an HDR Patch some day

[@petrlazar5240]

I have old i5 and GTX 1060 and I can also play in 1080@60 fps, imagine that.

[@steveballmersbaldspot2.095]

That combo is more powerful than the "enhanced" consoles. So you being able to hit that target is a given, you're probably playing at higher settings than them as well.

[@bradhaines3142]

@@steveballmersbaldspot2.095 no its basically on par with the 'pro' the x has something closer to a 1070. they're just choked by the old CPU

[@steveballmersbaldspot2.095]

@@bradhaines3142 No, the X has something akin to a RX480/580 which is comparable to a 1060. Don't just look at TFLOP numbers as AMD's chips perform worse than Nvidia.

[@yanceyboyz]

Brad Haines hahah 1070 hahahah it’s about the same as an amd 480/580. Teraflops do not calculate the same from amd to nvidia. The 1070 is way way more powerful. The ps5 is only now targeting vega56 performance and that’s around the same as a 1070.

[@bingobongo1615]

The 1060 is not a bad card and I5s are still more than adequate. However, the X and your rig comparison is difficult. For 4k your rig might perform worse for 1080p probably better.

[@EMB3D]

great detail video, but would be interesting to see, how much of a people would notice all these nuances (temporal AA, tearing, minor fps drop, or 60vs30 fps), without actually looking up such detailed videos, and articles about it, and complain about it

[@123doomdoom]

I picked up screen tearing right away when it did happen in heavy areas

[@asifmetal666]

ill buy this game for sure. it will take a month or two for me to get this game. but ill definitly buy this game for my PSPro.

[@PicksterTG]

How times have changed with 1080p is considered a 'low resolution'

[@nighttimestalker]

I prefer 60fps, so I'll accept the outcome on X here. But 1080p is dated now. Especially after being exposed to 1440p+ for so long. It's blurry

[@PicksterTG]

@@nighttimestalker 1080 would look blury on a 1440p display since it doesnt divide equally. 1080p is still more or less enough for me although I won't turn my nose up at 4K either. As for 60fps. I do prefer it over 30 but I don't see it as the be all and end all that some people do. So depending on the game I would probably on average pick 60fps over 4K 6 or 7 out of 10 times.

[@nighttimestalker]

@@PicksterTG I play on a 43in 4k tv 1080p is very soft. But I'll take the blurry 1080p over something like dragon age Inquisition.. it has little to no AA on Console and it's a shimmering nightmare on X lol

[@raiden_pb]

Watch a switch video and see them call 720p a high resolution lmao

[@PicksterTG]

@@raiden_pb I still dip into ladt gen games. It doesn't take me long to adjust to the lower resolution that tends to sit at 720p. Would probably be annoying if it was right on top of a 60+ inch TV... on a switch screen 720p is plenty enough for me. As always, more is better but I'm ok with what ever level I can adjust to and it not continue to overwhelm the experience.

[@arlensharp7433]

Love your working DigitalFoundry! Keep up the good work!

[@ivibs1984]

yep, once again, amazing work Digital Foundry!

[@oldscratch2490]

IF the 60fps is fairly stable like it is on Pro and X than I will choose 1080p over 4k30 any day of the week for sure. Glad they went that route for the enhanced consoles. Most developers would've kept it locked 30fps both ways just because its easier but props for these guys making the good effort.

[@Luan-n4z]

How do you rate it on PS5, bro?😊.

[@adamantium1195]

Hey Digital Foundry. Can you check the grapical downgrade in Red Dead Redemption 2? In 1.00 patch the lighting by Valentine General Store looks better than in 1.09 patch. And im not sure the Ambient Occlusion and textures are back in the original quality, like in the 1.00 patch.

[@vampG1]

These devs are really good at optimization!

[@mannyc19]

Been playing it on PC,as I did with the 1st Rage( i5 9400f,RTX 2080 XC ULTRA,2x16Gb,Intel 660p nvme,BenQ PD3200Q 1440P ) its a blast,and very good looking on my older IPS screen at 1440p,but wish the texture res was even higher, and yes the lighting is very good looking.I loved the original, but this is much better.

[@MrSinner1060]

1080p 60 FPS Over 4k 30 any day

[@chucktownattack]

Keep commenting to drown out the industry plants.

[@TurnerTurnip]

@Raios Rogue - Of course they believe it, and so do I. Framerate/performance is much more important than graphics. Of course, ideally, one would want to play 4k at 60fps. But no console can do that at this point.

[@raiden_pb]

1080p 60fps over 480p 25fps any fucking day. You know what I'm talking about

[@Yotts23]

Rage on ps3 looked so dopeee

[@dan8kdanhd757]

Because I want 4K, I have switch from the Xbox One X version to the PC version for Rage 2 ! I would prefer that there is an OPTION in the X version of Rage 2 to allow me to CHOOSE either 4K 30fps or 2K 60fps (graphic mode or performance mode) ! All games should includ a choice like this, it is not to the the developpers to impose their choice, but to the final consumer/customer to have the choice in the Options Menu. We have not the same ideas/whises and they must be equally traited... There is no good or bad, a simple question of what is important for YOU.... ;-)

[@shubhamspatil]

Rage 1 was huge at 18GB where 4.7GB was the max size for games at the time.

[@jbway86]

It's crazy how we jumped from 4.7GB to now 99GB in 14 years.

[@noahdavis7406]

@@jbway86 RDR2 is 105.5 GB

[@bonkboi420]

@@noahdavis7406 Modern Warfare is 200gbs

[@spaghebbio]

This is a new video and there are already so many people calling others poor because they choose the gameplay to feel smooth instead of the game looking a little better. It's always so confusing when people choose a more expensive way of playing and immediately invalidate any other ways even when the other ways are perfectly reasonable.

[@pherron7471]

Gamers are some of the worst numbnuts. Nobodies cares. Sit your ass in front of your tv/computer and enjoy your game.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

60 FPS on the high end consoles is a better enhancement than resolution only. Going back and forth between the consoles here, the 30 FPS looks so sluggish in comparison. So much nicer with higher frame rate.

[@bingobongo1615]

True but X and Pro versions are too similar. The devs didnt try to utilize the X additional power. And I dont mean the X could have done 4k 60 but if the Pro and the X are soo close then the devs probably could have done more

[@CloneoftelamonROBLOX]

Basically what it's like to have a more powerful PC, higher framerates rather than better graphics. I hope Console players understand the importance of better hardware for better performance, but having better graphics too is an added bonus.

[@MetalJody1990]

Solid performance is mandatory. Graphics are just a luxury.

[@CloneoftelamonROBLOX]

@@MetalJody1990 More powerful machines can do both. Performance must come first. Once you go to 60 you can't go back.

[@ultrakawaHD]

Short answer: YES

[@iparz44z]

The difference between 30 and 60 is far more noticeable than higher resolutions. 1080p60 was a good choice by the devs, shame more devs didn’t offer this option

[@supermanblue2274]

I'm rather disappointed that Rage 2 doesn't have HDR, just imagine how vibrant its colors would be!

[@mrwalker6026]

That barren map and clunky laggy menu absolutely takes away any benefits of no loading screens and 60 fps.Why have 60 fps only in brief encounters, would of been better suited to increase resolutions and 30 fps to take in the open world.Leave 60 fps for corridor shooter's and online competitive Multiplayer

[@Kobusstolk]

Would’ve loved 1440p 60fps on xbox one x

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

it's too weak. cpu is complete garbage.

[@morbey2011]

No way the xbox one x could easy get 1440p 60fps on this game

[@brixzusjaeger3385]

No it couldn’t. It’s a 2010 laptop jaguar cpu. They would have to downgrade the graphical fidelity heavily if they wanted to shoot for 1400p 60fps. It’s an open world game. Remember that.

[@madsines1494]

@@brixzusjaeger3385 Explain how RDR2 runs at 30fps and native 4K then? It's possible.

[@brixzusjaeger3385]

Mike Atkin simple Red dead redemption 2 runs at 30fps. Cpu handles the framerate if you didn’t know. Gpu handles resolution.

[@kodemasterx]

I have high hopes that every game that runs at 30fps on the PS4 could run at 60fps on the PS5, that will be a pre-order without a doubt

[@rinaa6865]

If I wanted a weak 1080p picture I would not of bought a 4K console and TV, 1080p on a 4K TV looks terrible, this Resoloution might be fine for people with old TVs but for 4K it's completely useless.

[@nelret7292]

60fps.

[@woldemunster9244]

Maybe you bought "meme" system that does not work as promised?

[@nighttimestalker]

X owner here. I'll agree 1080p is blurry on a 4k set. But X isn't that powerful. Idk why people think it is. 60fps is a needed thing on this game. X wouldn't be able to deliver that at anything higher than 1080p.

[@billygunn7713]

rina c dam you must have a crap budget TV then because my Sony xe930 does a great job uspcaling using the X1 Extreme processor. Sitting 10ft from my TV I can hardly notice the difference. Upgrade your TV and don't sit so close 👍

[@michaeljohn2826]

Why can there not be a 60fps 2k mode so you are at least getting a step above 1080p aswell, wouldn't the ps4 pro be better offering games up this way?

[@Thrashman138]

This game is an absolute joy to play and to watch. It's beautiful and fun.

[@Robspassion]

Thanks for the coverage! I miss the times when we had something fancy like - a choice: Performance/Resolution on the mid-gen consoles. I even heard that some developers were able to implement dynamic resolution or something odd called HDR. But hey we have some nice and super agressive TAA without a sharpening filter. Yay!

[@chrisrichfield8906]

1000x yes. If it's an FPS, I would much rather prefer framerate. I would almost even rather play at 720p at 120fps. The biggest thing being input lag. I can't even play Overwatch on my Laptops 60hz panel anymore. Aiming just feels bad compared to how it feels on my 120hz monitor.

[@Chuso_Skever]

For those who are saying "get a pc to play 4k 60fps or more, bla bla..." as a grown man who has been playing videogames for 20+ years now, I can say that every platform and every version of every console got its own thing, and for the price of an Xbox One X for example tell me if you can run any game at 4k 30 fps? or any modern triple A game at 1080p 60 frames with high settings, come on... let's grow, I guess a lot of that people that say that are kids literally but come on, you ain't winning a shit commenting "pc over everything", I'm done with it, at least now I released my "anger" against this topic, have a great day!

[@SulfurFurious]

I am totally fine with 1080p60fps when it comes to Pro/X enhancements. 😊👌

[@gavinhart5087]

I am aswell but I do find especially in this game it's very soft n rather blurry unless right on top of objects.. n I think if pro can do 1080p 60fps surely xbox X can do a slightly higher res as is fair bit more powerful.

[@SulfurFurious]

@@gavinhart5087 I get you. God of War was a good example of the choice "blurry image but smooth fps vs 30fps but crisp visuals"

[@lolol123lolol100]

​ Gavin Hart All modern games use TAA and look extremely blurry. So, it can be unacceptable for people with fine eye vision

[@SulfurFurious]

@@lolol123lolol100 * Thinking in boxes in progress *

[@dk06ctr]

I'm not! Needs higher resolution it's just a blur smudge fest to get 60fps dont see point in the fps if the picture is unwatchable

[@saucetune]

1080p is for the people who don’t wanna upgrade their TVs or consoles

[@alexanderulv3886]

I think i might pick this up. But i just can't stop thinking about a doom-esque type Rage 2 developed primarily by ID and assisted by avalanche. Similar to the first one with no open world but seamless levels all with perfect lighting. Would also allow for 1440p / 60 on the strong consoles and 900p/60 fps on base consoles. I remind you Doom in 2016 achieved this. I've heard that the open world is bland, so a sprawling linear game would suit me fine, especially as the vehicular combat looks subpar compared to say, Mad Max 2015.

[@chevlonmacguinstudios]

Rage two is absolutely gorgeous, the foliage looks bonkers and how it shifts in 60fps with the light going down in desert scene makes the game look so good on 1080p and 4k, but what matters is 1080p 60fps or 8k 60fps 4k the black sheep.

[@franciscor390]

I really enjoyed the first rage, but it seems that this one isn't going for the same rpg feeling that had interactive unique npc in cool towns, cities and multiple mini games. Also loved the waifus from Rage 1.

[@christopherscott934]

I liked the first Rage alot more than this mess.

[@robomnemonic3751]

Cristopher Scot Rage 2 shits all over the original Rage just saying

[@user-zg5ey5xo9i]

I knew it would be shit simc6tge firat trailer. All this pink and colourful shit. Wasteland should be desolate and barren. Not a colour shitfest.

[@moniumus6303]

This is more like DOOM. Open World DOOM meets mad max. Its incredible fun

[@user-zg5ey5xo9i]

@@moniumus6303 Yea sure. Fallout 4 makes fun too still its not a good Fallout game just like this isn't a good Rage game.

[@loci5327]

@DF: Please test "A Plague Tale: Innocence" for PC/PS4/XO next. That would be nice! Thank You!

[@GrimAbstract]

Not gonna lie, I rented this game and the visuals are so blurry to me. The pop in annoys me to hell, and I hate the low quality textures. I usually love playing at 1080 60fps, but this game just feels lazy.

[@GrimAbstract]

rockapartie really wish I could take it off, looks so bad on my 4K tv

[@BillyBetYT]

I adored the first game, despite its flaws it just felt right. I also applaud the decision to put performance first and hope this is a sign of things to come. There’s nothing like a finely tuned piece of software!

[@hazmifly]

When u play 60fps.. u never go back to 30fps.. just sacrifice resolution..it worth it..

[@prezzeruk4054]

I dont agree, u can go back to 30 but theres a big difference!! 60 is loads better, fps over 4k any day of the week!

[@hiawa23]

Awesome. I really want Rage 1 added to the Xbox1X Enhanced list.

[@nighttimestalker]

Same

[@lucasryan4145]

“Looks great on all platforms” my game looks like shit

[@akawhut]

Turning off motion blur is always the best choice.

[@123doomdoom]

Yeah man, I hate dat shiii

[@fabiokleinwold4515]

I got the feeling that the development of just cause 4 suffered under this game. Because just cause 4 looks like garbage

[@bradhaines3142]

made me glad i bought 3 on a sale

[@andyward8430]

Yeah even on a one x it looks really bad at times. Something about the foliage and the anti aliasing is off.

[@fabiokleinwold4515]

@@bradhaines3142 just cause 3 is fun but only on pc. The xbox version has a lot of framerate drops

[@WH250398]

3 and 4 were made by a B team also called Avalanche.

[@ClintBeastmode]

Why not give players the choice between framerate and Resolution?

[@MisterIcool]

I agree

[@86themadhatter27]

Really surprised Microsoft and Sony didn't want a 4K sticker on the cover and look for a dynamic resolution to be added.

[@JadigertheReal]

rage 2 in 4k on the consoles, absolut no chance.

[@WH250398]

Only Xbox does that though. On ps4 games it simply says "Ps4 Pro Enhanced"

[@86themadhatter27]

@@WH250398 Yeah but Sony's also guilty of doing the whole ''4K footage captured on PS4 PRO'' and then the game uses checkerboarding.

[@darkmagiciangirl573]

Tbh if they added a patch which enabled 640-718p for base consoles with 60fps I would play that if it had proper anti aliasing.

[@damiangoliszewski4656]

I always do that on my aging PC, and it’s surprising how low can you go before artifacts start appearing. You can drop the resolution scaler to about 60% without issues, and that's usually enough to jump from 30 to 60

[@mattmonkey6716]

As a PRO and a One X owner i was disappointed to hear there was no 4k 30fps mode. But then i thought atleast we will have HDR. To hear it doesnt have HDR makes this a no sale from me. This lools like the perfect game for HDR. Seems mad not to have it. Shame.

[@SpontaneousWeasel]

As always it is a user preference thing and I am most likely the exception here, but going from the beautiful IQ of Days Gone at 30fps 'faux k' rez on my 55 inch hdr screen to Rage 2's 1080p SDR 'somewhat 60fps' temporal blurryness was not a welcome comparison to my eyes! Although it is obviously extra effort for the dev, as the end user I would always prefer to be given the option to choose resolution over framerate in the settings. Shadow of the colossus was a premium example of how effective being given this option on a console can be.

[@VAGGY8TH]

I wonder if they will patch it with options to bump up resolution and lower FPS.

[@emowookie9337]

Theres not reason for that ass looking game to not be running at 4k 30fps.

[@elvinaskaroblis9146]

Sure it is always best to have couple of options in the game it should be standard. Saying that i am on 60fps side of thinking especially considering type of the game this one is

[@jasonhynek4362]

How is the HDR implementation?? I have a feeling this will pop big time on my OLED :-)

[@bingobongo1615]

Jason Hynek no hdr...

[@MostlyPennyCat]

I'm convinced we'd have had more games this generation if everyone hadn't decided to write their own engine...

[@MostlyPennyCat]

@Sursurk There's actually quite a lot. Specifically, last generation was defined by UE3, but UE4 isn't nearly that important this generation. There's a dozen propietary engines written by a studio for themselves and used in one or two games this generation. Maybe it's because UE4 needs too much CPU time.

[@MilkBreakMinecraft]

The Apex Engine is amazing though! At least, in terms of visuals. I don't think there are many games (if any) that look better than Hunter: Call of the Wild.

[@e2rqey]

The most hardware intensive scenes I've seen so far are actually in some of the MBTV stages. I think it's because of the fact that the entire floor of many of them has water on it which means the GPU is having to deal with a huge amount of dynamic Screen Space Reflections almost constantly, as well as all of the different alpha effects In the scenes from lights and pyrotechnics.

[@ubisoftcaveira8303]

R.I.P XBOX ONE X 1080p No 4K?! 😂😂😂😂

[@performancedh5328]

Nel tuo culo R.I.P.🤣🤣🤣

[@nighttimestalker]

So what? They went for 60fps. That's far more important... It's a demanding game

[@johnnybulletz4811]

We get it. You can’t afford an X. Go play with your ps2.

[@isturbo1984]

If the base Xbox One can run 60fps at 900p... the X should be able to run it at 1440 at the minimum. People aren't playing their PS4 Pro and Xbox One X consoles three inches from a goddamn 20" monitor. We're playing on bigger, 4k televisions. This is unacceptable.

[@torebarman8964]

where is the pc analyze of this?:)

[@TurnerTurnip]

@Tore Barman - What's the point, since every PC is different?

[@oVerdoZzZed]

@@TurnerTurnip thats some actual

[@snchez2106]

Basically, you can get 60 fps on a budget PC easily, as long as it has 8 GB of RAM.

[@aaronth07]

@@TurnerTurnip ? Different PC's do not mean a different game. The game's technical specifications and achievements are the same across all PC's.

[@auzanasyraf4551]

@@TurnerTurnip you are not familiar with digital foundry are you?

[@core---]

I've got a ton of Rage 2 gameplay videos on my channel running at 60fps ultra on a 1070! Pretty well optimized IMO!!

[@core---]

@J F Ryzen 2600 @ 4.1ghz! Works just fine.

[@cmdrflint9115]

What res you running?

[@core---]

@@cmdrflint9115 running at 1080p with the ultra preset defaults! didn't change anything else

[@bgates275]

They could have easily done 1440p/60 on the Xbox One X, but maybe they were just lazy.

[@frostsquad2733]

John Smith thats what im saying

[@calelsun]

I'd settle for 1440 @ 30 if needed. I'd rather lock it at 30fps with a higher resolution than have a fluctuating 60fps.

[@SuperD00D]

For console users, Samsung 2018 nu8000 and qleds, and 2019 ru8000 and qleds have “game motion plus” which is a low input lag motion interpolation which works fantastically to make 30 fps games look like 60. Only issue is a bit of ghosting around the characters head (I dont notice it personally). It works AMAZINGLY on spiderman and games like “the division”. Worked decently on “ac origins” but still pretty good. If the 30fps is very stable it works extremely well. It can also make 60 fps games 120 fps. They also have freesync for xbox one x and gaming pc’s. I have an nu8000 I love it, great tv.

[@nicolaiby1846]

Really impressive performance. Even the Xbox One S is perfectly playable. That is not common!

[@raresmacovei8382]

Nicolai By Given its from the devs that managed JC2 on X360/PS3 and Max Mad in 1080p30 on both X1S and PS4, with even better tools and engine in time, expected.

[@LoreLenore]

Honestly just in terms of general graphics atmosphere, I think the first Rage looks better, it just looks very...raw I guess. Sure the textures may be softer, but they have a strong personality to them, same with the baked lighting. Baked lighting isn't some bad thing just because it isn't advanced, I mean AC Unity has some of the best interior lighting...ever. , I wish Rage 2 was more like Rage 1 but ramped up a little, Rage 2 has an entirely different personality.

[@YourAssAintSafe]

Yea I LOVE the older look

[@underflip2]

The price for 60fps is always worth paying.

[@zeus1117]

Or go PC.

[@underflip2]

zeus1117 im 95% PC but for those few console exclusives I play I would love for for them to be 60fps. Going from 60, 80, 120, 144 or even 165 with g-sync down to 30 is like a slideshow

[@wolfchadaverageusenjoyerza8288]

Depends on you actually.. I would prefer having 4k with HDR and 30fps honestly, framerate is not a big deal for me.

[@underflip2]

Alex Marin for me it’s the opposite. I have played games in 4K hdr and it is hugely overrated imo. It does not as much to the experience while 60fps ads a lot in terms of playability.

[@underflip2]

Alex Marin I rather play at 1080p60 on ultra than 4K30 medium. Looks better and feels better imo

[@abandapart82]

This seems like a great game to be enhanced on PS5 and the next Xbox. 4K at 60FPS with HDR implementation would be rad and help sell the upcoming DLC.

[@Asianiscool1]

High fps over graphics. Tired of seeing great graphics on games but can't sustain 60fps.

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Yet you complain about bad graphics. Hypocritical much?

[@Asianiscool1]

@@UltraCasualPenguin How is that hypocritical? What part didn't you understand? I would rather choose high fps over graphics. Isn't that clear enough. Looks at today games especially on consoles that developers claims that their games will run at 60 fps but then most will run at 30 fps at most. Similar to pc port from developers where the graphics is amazing but the fps is all over the place due to poor optimization. Graphics don't mean jack if the games keep stutter and screen tearing especially during intense moment. I have consoles and pc so I'm biased at all. Would be nice if developers can go back and focus on making great games rather than focusing on making their games looking all pretty but run like crap.

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

@@Asianiscool1 PC gamers complain if new game isn't next "but can it run Crysis?".

[@Asianiscool1]

@@UltraCasualPenguin What? What does that have to do with me been hypocritical? That "can it run crisis?" is overused and lame. Now explain to me how I was hypocritical?

[@amnril]

John, another fantastic console analysis breakdown. What a legend 👍

[@carlosdean9564]

60FPS or more is the best for games like this in my opinion 4K is wast in performance

[@jwhiskey534]

lol consoles

[@mlgosiris6630]

@@DeadPhoenix86DP 4K 60 is a long way off still. Most PCs can't do 4K 60. The next gen consoles will probably have a GPU on a similar power level to a 1080. The only GPU that can really do 4K 60 on new games is a 2080ti, and you won't find a console with that power in it for under 800-1000

[@chadhabibi8655]

That’s good they did 60fps. I don’t know how people stand 30 FPS on console. That’s the biggest reason I play pc. Also I think all games should choose framerate over resolution but I feel like they always go for higher resolution.

[@vandammage1747]

Visually Rage 2 is a disappointment. Only 30fps on base consoles and only 1080p on X1X. Rage was the most technically impressive game last gen. 720p60 on x360 with megatextures and Rage 2 doesn't even have hdr. Seems like not many ressources went into pro and X versions.

[@glitchman1272]

Van Dammage 1080p60 over 4K30

[@KidTonyGaming]

If we were barely able to 1080p on PS3/360, why is the PS4/XBO trying to hit 4k 60fps. Can we finally master 1080p 60fps locked on consoles first

[@alanlee67]

Eh, this is RAGE in name only. I loved the original RAGE because it seemed like id was pushing the 7th gen to the limit with their engine. RAGE 2 seems like a generic game made by a generic dev. It's a pass for me.

[@cookman08]

Imagine if Dunia/Far Cry had this kind of interactivity.

[@LeShark75]

Sunning game on my One X, loving every moment.

[@mrchiledonut]

Obviously, EvilBoris HDR took a look at it and did a video on it on HDTVTest, but I was curious what your guys' take was on the newly implemented Red Dead Redemption 2 HDR mode.