Monster Hunter Wilds - THIS IS GAME CHANGING - A New World of Extinct Monsters Coming! (Fun/Theory)

[@thinktwice3211]

Candles burning, music playing, you and the Black Flame all alone. The door opens and Hollow and Cotton come in flick on the lights and say Josh what the hell are you doing!

[@LokiToxtrocity]

Cotton is still blindfolded so Hollow has to describe the scene with as little spoilers as possible

[@TheIridescentFisherMan]

HOW DO YOU KNOW MY NAME xD

[@Oespo]

Extint species would actually be the perfect opportunity to do something more than "Wyvern Rex is a super Tigrex". Rex wouldn't be just Tigrex's ancestor but also other monsters like Nargacuga and Barioth. Maybe the ancient species could combine elements of all their future selves. Wyvern Rex could charge like Tigrex but also tail slam like Nargacuga and jump on walls like Barioth Ancient Rathalos could be a mix of Rathalos and Rathian and even combine elements from their many other forms Ancient Yian kut ku would also be ancient Yian garuga and maybe take from Gypseros since they're similar You can see the idea of ancient version of monsters makes a lot of happy sparks in my brain

[@maxaxe1941]

The Wyvern Rex idea is beautiful However the Rathalos and Rathaian combination already exist it's called Unknown

[@RE_CAN]

No Josh, you have a point. Ever since I saw the flagship, I thought it looked like Gore. so I believe he is a thought be extinct species of Gore.

[@Mounttaintop]

Arkveld is a flying wyvern it's not on gore's skeleton it's on like Steve's

[@limaoatmosferico2975]

They probably share an common ancestor

[@Ze-splattingmain]

Honestly this may be a unpopular opinion, But I actually really hope the blackflame isn't a extinct species and just a regular apex of the region. Also I think would make arkveld more of a stand-out flagship, but this is just me.

[@ryano699]

im just curious, why do you care whether it is extinct or not? it wont impact gameplay or anything to important.

[@peza.]

​@@ryano699He already said it, so Arkveld can stand out even more as a flagship

[@Monsoonasaurus]

Plus more cephalopod monsters latter.

[@Alpha-cabb]

*watched the beginning* okay i'm calling lauren on you Josh !

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

don't forget Brachydios.

[@dennynavarra]

I find it funny that when we picture ancient species, we think velociraptor to chicken, rather then small rodent like creature to lion or elephant. If there are other ancient species then Arkvelt, imagine if they would be weaker then the base species. Like what if Wyvern rex is just a 3 Star monster and be the size of a Great Girros or Great Baggi, therefore earlier/ easier hunt then Tigrex, but is then used like an introduction to ancient species.

[@JophielMunar]

Take this with a grain of salt, but I think wyvern rex is larger than tigrex. There's also some crazy descriptions in the fan wiki, but it's a freaking fan wiki, probably not true.

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

i have 2 ideas for an extinct species for the Raths. the first one is the Prototype Wyvern from MH1's concept art. it's basically a quadrupedal version of the Raths, with traits from both - and poison breath, as the notes read (but let's change it to fire to give it another similarity to the Raths). another idea is Unknown from Frontier. he could finally have a proper name, and maybe even a title. Wilds is an opportunity for him to officially be part of the mainline games alongside Lavasioth and (most notably) Espinas. either one would work. in case someone still doesn't think "reskin" subspecies should come back, let me reiterate what i've said in the "no new subspecies & more extinct species" video, then repeat my examples: have the "reskin" subspecies specialize in whatever trait they have; and also have that trait affect their behaviour in multiple ways. now, for the examples. example 1: Azure Rathalos. stays in the air more than base Rathalos? it's somewhat there in World, but he stands to learn a few new tricks. he's got Silver Rathalos' charged fireball from WorldBorne on top of being more airborne, there's that. he could be more acrobatic in the air, with tighter turns and quicker movement. because of his superior flying skills (compared to base Rathalos, of course), have him dominate almost every other flying monster in the game in aerial turf wars; he could even give Rey Dau trouble, despite the weakness to Thunder. he also could be a more proficient fire-breather. remember Rathalos from the 2020 movie? (bear with me, here) this is what i mean: have him breathe fire, as in ACTUAL streams of fire. a stationary forward blast like Anjanath, a sweeping stream like Alatreon, airborne versions of those attacks, a midair strafe. have his lungs be so well-developed that his fire travels further as a result. make him smart enough to use his fire breath to burn the grass of the Windward Plains and trap Ceratonoth and Dalthydon - and the hunter. and have him perch on an outcrop or broken tree and bombard you with fireballs - though he wouldn't do it for long. example 2: Pink Rathian. her colour doesn't grant her camouflage, therefore making her more aggressive, right? let's also make her smarter. if Pink Rathian's going be aggressive to make up for her lack of camouflage, then she's going to need those battle smarts. give her more tail attacks, instead of making her spam backflips. something like a simple swipe - no, not the "turning tail swipe" from Gens 1 through 4 - and she could thrust her tail, use the spikes to stab enemies. hell, she could use her increased battle intelligence to parry attacks with her tail. because of her colour, she would also be selective with nests, preferring more secluded ones. this is how i'd overhaul "reskin" subspecies like Azure and Pink: give them new tricks by using what they already have. and give them a different behaviour based on those attacks, like Azure's "perch & snipe", as well as a different behaviour based on how the subspecies' trait affects it, like Pink's colour.

[@BlockOFish]

Prehistoric alts of monsters would be so sick.

[@Anonymous-ul4xt]

I like to think the extinct species that are in wilds are just around the world in a very isolated/undiscovered areas like how we find ancient or extinct species living today in the real world and mh wilds maps are those isolated areas that the guild haven’t found yet

[@GemstoneDreams]

Like a Guiding Lands situation

[@joebee3128]

Yes extinct or ancient monsters would be so good ever since I saw that video of the generations of monsters Ive wanted a whole game of them in it. Imagine an ancient anjanath that’s spiky and way more aggressive and has a poisonous bite but also the flame breath still thats sounds awesome.I know Espanas is a thing but I’m just brain storming

[@thinktwice3211]

As long as we can have fish we catch swimming in our room Im sold.

[@marmyeater]

9:01- I'd hunt a Sabertooth Rathalos.

[@pauldavison2856]

honestly this is what i thought you were talking about last time, it's a lot more exciting of a concept

[@jockpackage1770]

The only shame that should be felt is for predictability. It's tentacles so... Hey, congalala is getting a rework so green could get an even bigger rework to make him awesome. The attempt at scene painting broke his brain, good that he caught himself. 6:28 Oh Gog no, a deer with antlers, where all the points end in eyes. Please no! That would be so creepy! I'm begging that we have a more creative endgamy system for amping up monsters. they kind of peaked wit hthe first one, having frnezy. Not just add a status/damage buff, but also a speed modifier and altered sound design. Then the apexes kind of ruined it, with the temporary buff mechanic where you either have this up or you may as well not even bother attacking the monster until you do have the buff off cooldown. It's kind of a bad habit, lately, nergi also had a bunch of wannabe flagships after him taking his gimmick and not doing it as well. Those 3 were fine but in now world should all 3 have been flagships. Especially not back to back after nergi, without a break from the shared gimmick. I also really hope that they don't use extinct species as an excuse to not give us more out there things in future games. The black flame being extinct is no excuse for like spending 10 years without giving us something else of his shape.

[@Arkyuu]

your mh musings and theories are always fun to listen to, Josh. MH Wilds Jurrasic for master rank confirmed

[@aaronolson6736]

Just thinking on an Ancient Rath, Raths prime their breath attacks like they're spiting fire so its entirely possible before being a stream of flames this used to be a more volatile and unwieldy spit attack. Raths still use fireballs capable of stunning as their big attacks and Dreadking wields the explosive power with its flamesac, key difference being Ancient Rath would lack proper fire attacks. It could even have a heavier build or just be a pseudo wyvern most similar to Barioth.

[@evan5686]

This idea is wonderful I would like to see this as the DLC and master rank stuff

[@TheDapperClapper]

It would be crazy if we got a prehistoric guiding lands in the expansion

[@travisbarry4290]

What if you come across a remnant still thriving ancient wyvarian settlement since you always see tower and castle ruins an active lost city with their technology might be a easy way to introduce "lost" weapon types

[@luigiongaming3959]

Given the leaks im pretty sure josh is just talking about the leaks as if they are his predictions. We now know there is a complete designation for extinct species versions of even normal monsters like doshaguma.

[@demontiming9095]

At this point I just hope for more brute wyverns I feel we have so many unique monsters in the other categories but the brutes haven't really had a big jump if we got an ancient version of brachy or duramboros or even the pickle that would give the brutes a much needed kick to compare to all these new ones we have

[@KionJeong]

Brachydios: “HOW COULD YOU!!!”

[@Sazando596]

me when I see the MH Wilds leaks and retool them as if they were speculation that I came up with entirely myself

[@deviljhooverlord]

It sounds like they may pull what they did with seregios in MH4U, but instead of them being driven out and fleeing their hiding spot, we're gonna be the invaders.

[@dracael7151]

You were going The Deep route for a moment there.

[@thinktwice3211]

Black Flame's nick name is Majora's Mask!

[@pauldavison2856]

Josh you haven't made your once-per-monster-hunter-game-cycle talk on the equal dragon weapon; are you okay? (Equal dragon weapon would be a really cool endgame for Wilds if the ruins in the scarlet forest are actually ancient civilisation)

[@Hollow_Krouw]

0:09 for a second i thought cotton was gonna pop in and be like "JOSHUA" lol

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

who's gonna pop out? you forgot to add their name.

[@Hollow_Krouw]

@jacktheomnithere2127 I'm actually super embarrassed lmao

[@isaacfoster3910]

So ya want a monster that looks like how it was before...... It's original appearance before the sudden change in evolution... A origin species if you will....

[@NasirDagamer21]

They can bring SOMTHING really ancient like narwhal the wing serpent/thunder so I’m not too surprised if they do bring a elder dragon there

[@alexfoster2386]

I'm excited to see cotton's reaction to all this but when they get to the black flame I see A LOT of uncomfortable conversations about him because Josh's obsession

[@bastiancole3565]

You can feel the desperation to get back to playing this game and his voice. The withdrawal has set in and everyone is suffering.

[@rickn6923]

Josh unknowingly gave capcom the entire premise for MH wilds lmao. Also spoiler: The datamine shows several extinct species variants of returning monsters, Rathalos being one of them 😂 man he really hit it on the head with this one. The others are an anjanath and an ebogaron for returning. There are 3-4 others with the extinct tag in code but the monster ID doesn’t match any known monsters for those.

[@MrWario20001]

If I'm creating a game, I'm totally looking at videos like that for ideas.

[@EdgarCastillo-c6j]

Warning possible spoilers for MH Wilds, read at your own risk. I saw a video a few weeks ago that was looking at a "leak" saying that there will be ancient species still alive and are the ancestors of some of the monsters in wilds. I only remember them saying that Doshaguma will be getting one.

[@dragonflyer4656]

For future reference, don’t share anything that could even be related to a leak unless someone specifically says they want to hear it, even if you think it’s not true. People don’t want to be spoiled.

[@EdgarCastillo-c6j]

@dragonflyer4656 maybe I should have started with a warning

[@dragonflyer4656]

@@EdgarCastillo-c6j That would work too lol. You’re good

[@goudawgs]

What if The Black Flame IS the ancestral predecessor to Nakarkos??? I know octopus to cuddlefish is a stretch but those tentacles screamed Nakarkos to me when I first watched that trailer

[@Dinoplayerop]

If extinct elder dragons are a thing in this game I wonder what prehistoric valstrax would look like would it have the jet wings or regular wings and there are six circles in the logo if you count them as areas then there is an extra area which could be a area with extinct monsters

[@playertou]

I think extinct species are kinda a stretch cause the black flame isn’t really confirmed to be one. If it is mb but I think we might see something more like blood bath diablos than ancient species. But will they introduce new monsters that were believed to be extinct and not be an ancestor of any monster maybe? Cause monsters will always adapt and evolve. Who knows though until we get it am I right? Also the monster hunter planet could be massively bigger than earth and that’s why many cultures and tribes are so vastly different in every game being more primitive in older games to a bit more advanced now. Hope we don’t go into a multiverse monster hunter though.

[@MikkosFree]

Hmm. Seems to align with the data mine we have so far.

[@KenyBrown-ku8xj]

It's happening, that's all imma say

[@jonathandietrich3940]

dinosaur version of tigrex? Its already a dinosaur, what more do you want?

[@shawmiserix404]

or the oposite we have seen the velociraptors it's time we see the chickens

[@dankicks]

I’ll be okay with calling them ‘extinct species’ as long as we learn and understand WHY THEY ARE EXTINCT. And I don’t mean something hand-wavy.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

I wonder what other extinc monsters can return.

[@superjos3874]

Just give us more new monsters plz extinct species how cool this is probably the lands were all monsters come from but I get what your saying it does sound cool as hell there is so much they could do here and I'm so excited I'm losing my mind thinking about playing this again 😢

[@thecripledgammer9106]

God I hope they do that

[@EdsonValle-yo5os]

Amazing Idea I could happen

[@barr65]

maybe we will get Origin Species?

[@stevenhopson4027]

what if the new rathalos, isnt a new rath. but its the ??? wyvern, and it gets finally classed the Ancient Rathalos???

[@jeremymiller3766]

The forbidden land to the people that live there are normal for them, what if the true forbidden lands where the ancient live. DLC

[@silentshadowish]

he's seen the leaks

[@lani1988]

we are getting a new weapon

[@kannonlewis4183]

I would rather have black flame was a ??? monster

[@warrior8034]

*Me who has seen all the leaks*

[@domrrrrr]

Arkveld is a manmade dragon by the ancients made with the power of dragon torch him and others more are just in deep slumber and keepers are the one in charge watching over this sleeping weapons called guardians they are made to combat elders

[@raptorxd2146]

this is the healthy(healthier) kind of sexualization. if its against things that are never (if ur not mentall sick) actually be able to be a sexual/romantic obsession. I write this bc i know alot of people who are pushed away from the horendous and sad stuff said about Gemma. this also includes me, as i will not watch proob if josh sexualizes humanoid characters, like he did in the one blindfolded cotton episode. ik that it is an easy way to get views but it hurts alot of people. people who are extremely uncomfortable if sexualization of humanoids happens. these people cant interact comfortably with alot of communities and it would be a shame if monster hunter turns even more into that disgusting direction.

[@thomassisk7669]

Josh are cheating on Brachydious

[@nicholasmarquez3399]

Is this theory or data?

[@ivorynargie]

Its josh preparing to say "I WAS RIGHT!!!!!" when we see the second or third extinct species

[@alexciesielski1840]

This is theory

[@maxaxe1941]

​@@ivorynargieA GAME THEORY

[@nothuman5335]

@@alexciesielski1840 this is based of actual leaks disguised as theories

[@rickn6923]

To those saying extinct is a dumb name, no you are dumb for not understanding a simple concept. They are “believed to be extinct”. It’s like encountering a dinosaur that was living in caves in the Amazon or something. Meaning they are so extremely rare everyone thought they died out.

[@ligaar0849]

Love this extinct speacies nonsense. If it was extinct.. its gone. They arent. Its a dumb title for a variant of monster.

[@ivorynargie]

@@ligaar0849 reason why it would fit perfectly

[@Ze-splattingmain]

Well much like the coelacanth was assumed extinct, it could just be a title to describe species that for along time where thought be dead. Only to be proven wrong.

[@usnairframer]

Who pissed in your Cheerios, kid?

[@MH_Daakin]

The datamine confirms its not extinct! These Monsters are called guardians and have nothing to Do with extinct😂

[@MH_Daakin]

I mean we have everything leaked , the full storyline, the monster roster, nearly all weapons and armor with pictures, all locals and there is nothing about extinct species

[@Zerochilluwu]

Monster hunter Underworld sequel confirmed ..?

[@CabbageFarmer42]

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