Ragnar Prime Test Results [bench Guan Yu?] Rise of Kingdoms

[@Chisgule]

DO YOU THINK LIU CHE RAGNAR PRIME IS ACTUALLY THE BEST COMBO IN THE GAME? Or is Wallace Liu actually just better? Where do you think Ragnar Prime falls in the infantry investment order?

[@d.a.ma.m2414]

i mean lie che ragnar prime has 45% less skill dmg taken in total + 60% defence 😭

[@Bearforce2]

No because when I was watching the live when it was still going William Wallace and Liu Che them beat Ragnar so I will be investing in Liu Wallace

[@gatete_sobre_una_sandia]

​@@Bearforce2Wallace is a single target cmm, ofc you would expect him to win a duel against a double aoe combo, and his only role is to boost Liu chet, Liu is the only reason why he is good; besides, Ragnar/Scipio is all about reducing skill damage taken, which does not apply to smite, which is also the reason why he did better against the skill damage combos. Liu/Ragnar sounds like lots of aoe, tankiness and stats, so I expect It to be the best infantry march.

[@gatete_sobre_una_sandia]

I do Believe that Liu/Ragnar will be the best infantry maech. Both deal a lot of dmg and both are aoe ( and ragnar's damage over time does not get reduced by the number of tagets), they both have debuffs, a lot of stats and insane tankiness. Wallace is only good because Liu is insane Lol.

[@Bearforce2]

@@gatete_sobre_una_sandia my kingdom is in SOC or KvK 5 3234 I think but either way I got grounded for a year so I don’t have all of the best commanders but thanks for letting me know and how do smite damage work

[@davidw.5185]

I suspect the RP is a high spend or mid spend toy or also an infantry main wanting a Guan upgrade. For every other scenario, he is a probably best suited as a pass. I have Guan/Scipio and LC/Alex all experticed. I run 5-6 marches as a low spend. Do I really invest 690 gold heads into RP? I don't see it quite yet. Ty for the video. 🙏

[@greenknight4847]

He is better than scipio or guan, if you low on gh that is fine. But he is top tier commander.

[@pravda5864]

RP make u stronger but not much

[@davidw.5185]

@greenknight4847 I agree and that's my point. Low spend is almost always starved for gold heads, so this is mostly a whale toy

[@sipz1221]

so what you saving ur Gh for if you’re 5 march? come on

[@mentalist9167]

Not sure what new infantry you are waiting for if your are a 5 March player. Rather invest in ragnar from the current meta and then. Save gold heads for the next infantry which will take like a year , and even then may be skippable. The point is to upgrade what you have, and RP is an upgrade on everyone except liuche

[@hasibulhasan2064]

2 points on feral nature. Use 1 of last 3 points on latent power and march speed on inf tree. Don’t waste rage.

[@neikyy2564]

Soo... You did not test scipi/ragnar vs ragnar/scipi and you also did not run guan/scipi vs who ever did better in the first one... Why? Like.. if you have time to test tariq/sargon why didn't you actually test vs the combination this probably would replace for most ppl...? Also i think you just skip ww because he's single target with no real debuffs hes all dmg. Granted he does great dmg but i think you go liu che -> scipi pair them up go for ragnar pair him with scipi and put whatever you have with liu che 5511 gorgo or 5551 alex ir whatever and invest in the next inf commander which either goes with liu che or with ragnar so you go back to scipi liu che

[@siedahallen5539]

I appreciate all that you do for us to better understand the commanders keep it up my guy peace

[@steveprovost-l4o]

When Ragnar is in the game, what will the best canyon lineup be? Right now I'm running 1 arch, 2 calv, 1 support, 1 inf

[@Firestarter123]

as an archer main, do i invest in shajar or ragnar prime if i care about kp?

[@tommywold6355]

Just a q wil you do some test on Ragnar with artifact option ?

[@corndog5667]

Does the museum relic transfer over ?? From gold key Ragnar to big boy Ragnar ?

[@Renko27]

Hey I just wanted to say that you might be better off doing scipio primary ragnar secondary. Because of the difference in talents, scipio primary is 19-21% more march speed compared to ragnar primary. Ragnar scipio is just disgustingly slow on field in comparison. Also, you get the health debuff off faster with scipio primary and having more tankiness against skill damage is valuable (which in duels against WW Liu you can’t see that value).

[@Ronnieboboff]

This is very interesting. I would just throw in though that Scipio seems to be a priority target on the field at the moment, so if Ragnar has the sustain as seen in the testing then maybe having him primary helps avoid being focused? If you're not focused then you don't need the speed to run away so much

[@DDKKAY]

@@RonnieboboffScipio is not the priority target, first Target is XY, then (ZL or Hermann),and third is (Huo, and WW)

[@arcana722]

@@Ronnieboboff scipio primary is prob one of the last things u target

[@EZdoesit-qk3ev]

@@RonnieboboffI feel like everyone besides Huo and a Smite Infantry march everyone says is a target lol

[@Ronnieboboff]

I mean Huo does get targeted a lot, but last 2 kvks it's been Scip for me, even when I'm running Boudica! Maybe it's different for different seeds, it's been Bs and Cs my last kvks

[@karolsss6674]

Worth mentioning that he will not be on the mge/wheel so that supposed to be free commander... There is only expedition/events left for his heads if Lilith keep word.

[@davidgreen6484]

When are you going to make a video again on who the best city commanders are? I dont know who to have in there anymore if i get rallied!!

[@rustysuperset3389]

Avoid getting rallied not worth investing ib city garrison

[@pp1425]

Why would you avoid naked rage? If half of the ball is smite damage or in your case to duel smite commanders pair?

[@Freeze4545]

In kvk3 now, will do Ww/Lc. I like the synergy and newness. Next Inf commander wont matter for me since ile likely be working on new cav march after new cav release.

[@hype3823]

I think lc scipy is a more useful 1 march inf

[@Freeze4545]

@@hype3823 it's a tough choice. But if future inf is smite , Ww will be more useful down the road in making a 2nd inf. If a skill commander is released my guess is it goes with Ragnar. Bjorn prime would make sense. But who knows. Mostly I just like the solid smite synergy.

[@hype3823]

@Freeze4545 I think is straight forward icl. Wallace has no debuff. Scipy is aoe health debuff damage over time. Hess way better like not even close

[@Ronnieboboff]

​@@hype3823William's smite tree debuffs rage

[@Freeze4545]

@@hype3823 if future is smite, when Ww/Lc pair is broken up both will be useful. Whatever inf march I use will be my only infantry for at least 2 future infantry cycles. Doesn't seem like they would create smite and give it a talent tree then move away from smite. Obviously no guarantee future is smite. It's all an educated guess.

[@VoltxMythical]

I think WW LC is still best inf combo but for most players who are using LC Alex, I think dropping Alex is the way to go. I’m personally still gonna use Guan Scipio but use LC Ragnar as my second inf march

[@zkx2417]

Nah if thats the case you should do Guan Ragnar Scipio LC to benifit from LCs expertise

[@kchris5326]

I would take LC/Alex over LC/Ragnar

[@skitz0299]

@@kchris5326really? Why

[@kchris5326]

@@skitz0299because Ragnar is not a smite commander so he won’t benefit from the set up that makes LC good. I know Alex isn’t either, but Alex insta proc is what makes him great not the gear/armaments. I think Ragnar and Scipio is where its at.

[@elniniomillon]

I don't understand the problem with investing in Ragnar, he is literally a second wind for Scipio, in the same way that Scipio was for Guan Yu. From an OG perspective, of course you can use your old commanders like Nebu/guan, but there is always room for improvement, not everyone has 4 year old accounts with all the old commanders expertise to skip all the rotations.

[@ITZY.Staedt]

I hopre this Commander trial will be a regular thing on Commander releases

[@crispy19eighty3]

Hello I'm in 3558 in 1st kvk. Can someone tell me which items should I be saving such as gold keys, commander sculptures or anything else. Thanks 😊

[@tiganaz98]

Love ur vids bro very entertaining

[@anis2642]

Maybe is that low impact because it’s all about doing dmg so Sargon would be great with him?

[@MishyLon]

I like to have Ragnar,,, possible for Bjorn Prime also? 😀

[@syedammar6834]

He's the 2nd best infantry commander after liu che not 4th He's better than wallace and scipio just pair liu/william and ragnar/scipio and he just came into the game wait for the murder balls fights where he will shine the most

[@NonkelFonkel]

What is a good infa pair in kvk3 for low spender

[@heriawansyahputra6980]

Maybe kvk 1-3 sun tzu epic still worth it to use, this is my opinion

[@nicdiamond9989]

Can you use him with Sargon ? I’ve got no pairing for Sargon , and I’d like to keep skippy alex , gorgo Liu

[@86leeuk]

When you have just spent the best part of 6 months building your Guan yu march 😂🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@kiettuanphi]

Liuche/Ragnar will be the best pair in game on field, no one can counter their mixed damage. If u run 2 infa, go William/Liuche and Scipio/Ragnar.

[@jaydenlynch4668]

do i go ragnar or herman

[@Vegsxk]

Taking into account he is a skill commander, could Ragnar YSG be a thing?

[@MyMarius87]

You replace guan for ragnar and youre golden for 2-3 years. next commanders are smite and you can replace your alex or WW without a problem. if no more skill commander will appear Ragnar is a must .

[@AdhamYahyaoui]

Ok from what i see if you have GY i don t think you need to spend heads on ragnar from what i see is not big diffrence between tham but for my account and it s young account i have alex liu and scipio all of tham is Max soo i need second commander for scipio soo i think i will go to Ragnar but if i was have GY i m sure i will not invest on him

[@Natalious2001]

If the game gave Ragnar prime to us expertised I'll consider using him but if not I'll just be using Guan scipio. Just my opinion 😁

[@BubSmith-wj4dz]

Ragnar/Constantine. My new golden pair and absolute tank

[@CB_Toaster]

Do you really want to be a punching bag or do you want to do damage? Constantine gives you actually nothing but a bit tankiness

[@ramos_pinho117]

Infantry staying smite ragnar will not have good pairs for future. In kvk artifact hou ragnar or zhuge ragnar can be really good on high skill damage buffs commander. With scipio is only 10%

[@rezopolis]

You should start bringing Babur+Gaja Mada to these tests more often I don't recall you trying them out in the duels

[@AzzamAbuJbara]

Sorry to say that but I don’t buy any conclusions for testing without equipments and armaments cuz that’s effect in unpredictable ways between commanders even if they in same level of equipments and armaments, and we saw that many times for now so I could say I need solve to this issue

[@WaterMelon-Cat]

Not everyone has crazy armaments so that would make testing even worse.

[@AzzamAbuJbara]

@@WaterMelon-Cat I tested him in kvk and with armaments and equipment I could tell you that ragnar sargon in same level of ww lc so don’t be so sure bro

[@bryanmarcial-gaytan5072]

@@AzzamAbuJbaraRagnar can’t be use in the open field

[@AzzamAbuJbara]

@@bryanmarcial-gaytan5072 in first day that was available by joining rallies yhen left it then they figured out that and closed it i have many reports in field

[@WaterMelon-Cat]

@@AzzamAbuJbara and if I test Ragnar/Sargon with bad armaments it will lose. Armaments are way too heavy of a variable dude. You are literally adding up to 20 entries of extra stats/inscriptions. Way too variable. Plus Sargon is not even all that bad anyways. Also how did you test Ragnar in Kvk ?

[@kevinbrown5093]

With cavalry cycle coming up… I need this new cav commander more than Ragnar …. He is tempting but new cav meta is coming soon too

[@Firestarter123]

how soon

[@pivot9965]

Drops a duel that has nothing to do with ball fights about ragnar prime been first against a ww/liu. Explains that probably ragnar prime first did better against ww/liu because he is focus on smite damage and scipio is good against skill damages and stills keeps saying its the way to go while he does all the other duels against skill damage commanders with ragnar prime first. Amazing Logic. :D

[@AbuAdam-a]

Quiero hacer una sola marcha de inf cual pls?

[@cellOficial845]

William liu che

[@MostafaHjh]

lilith is so generaus she give you beta ragnar that cant used in field eaven for 6 days 😂

[@bryanb7050]

You never tested Ragnar/liu

[@Melani3151]

can you make a 1 vs 1 duel between Ragnar/scipio vs guan yu/scipio

[@overlordkess578]

Its in the video

[@blackbeard4203]

Just another useless gimmick trying to prolong interest in the game. This was completely useless in 98% of the game. Lilith needs to stop the jokes and actually listen to their customers.😢

[@Hey_hello0211]

I agree he just overhype every commander and trying to making it interesting

[@Lycan39]

RagnarRoK is awesome 👍🏻😎🎉❤

[@Deadeye_Baron]

How to unlock Ragnar Prime?

[@Swatzoops_ops]

Bruh in kvk the other team had a 200M power leader we Are cooked

[@pineappledoesnotbelongonpi4891]

Soooooo then why skipping over Sargon?

[@dannybedard4856]

3 infantry marches : Liu Che/ Alex, Scipio A / Wallace, Ragnar/Scipio

[@timtaylor5638]

3 marches for me gaun/pyruss luche/alex ragnar P/ scipio

[@WaterMelon-Cat]

LC/Pyrus makes more sense

[@termi4677]

LC/Pyrrhus, Guan/Scip, Ragnar P/Alex

[@timtaylor5638]

@@termi4677 I like that one better Ragnar lacks a lot of attack

[@timtaylor5638]

Ive used LC pyruss until the Alex pairing got descoverd guan/pyruss got same reports as with scipio and lasted longer but Ragnar is in the mix now

[@lail9821]

Guan-Scipio is better than Scipio-Ragnar

[@timtaylor5638]

Ragnar dosnt have a place in canyon trust me tried everything

[@lizard3060]

He's a great backrow

[@timtaylor5638]

@@lizard3060 no he’s not… with who? Only option would be to take out gaun and pair with scipio and it’s dosnt get as many kills and no silence… and your not gonna take out zhuge/herman so he’s no good in back row

[@greenknight4847]

@@timtaylor5638he is 100% better in cannon than guan, especially with his half circle aoe, that silence is so overrated this days that is ridiculous. Ppl gain so many rage fast enough you literally can’t see a difference. Half circle aoe is busted in cannon but you need to know hot to use that properly

[@timtaylor5638]

@@greenknight4847 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@lizard3060]

@@greenknight4847 Literally

[@aryanmitkay3039]

We need sun tzu prime 😭

[@Freedom_Elf]

3 marches? WW/LC, Ragnar/Scipio, GY/Sargon

[@Stumpzilla]

Guan/Sargon too squishy, you better off keeping Guan/Scipio and run Ragnar/Sargon instead.

[@dariendiaz8569]

@@Stumpzilla WHAT about Guan/Ragnar -Walace / liu che and Scipio/Tariq ?

[@WaterMelon-Cat]

@@dariendiaz8569 Scipio/Tariq is still good

[@Stumpzilla]

@@dariendiaz8569 Sounds good to me, you really just want a skill/normal dmg reduction commander behind Guan so he becomes less squishy. And Scipio/Tariq has been solid for me when I used it in the field, so I'd give that line-up a try if I were you and see how it goes..

[@lizard3060]

Guan/honda

[@pravda5864]

Big Kane sad bench WW not Guan )

[@RickBjork]

is it R.I.P. Guan or is it revivial Guan/Leonidas?1?!?! hahaha

[@catchyourdrift]

If LC wins then Ragnar P is meh🧐

[@jeremyhanks8296]

Anything for content, right!? Form a conclusion when you can actually use the commander.....Jeez.

[@Chisgule]

What do you mean? The game provided an expertised version of the commander.

[@jeremyhanks8296]

@@Chisgule You've used him in actual battle? KvK?

[@nadz2135]

@@jeremyhanks8296you’re living under a rock? 🤡

[@Felix-1719-u]

🎉

[@kevinramos5188]

He doesn’t work in a lot of things.

[@legacyunknown5953]

Can confirm I used Huo Ragnar in artifact kvk and it is so nasty. Being able to have nev Joan Huo Ragnar makes my team so much better

[@gav5150]

How did you do that if he can't leave your city?

[@legacyunknown5953]

@@gav5150 I was using him in lost canyon

[@nathanielraynes4614]

As an archer vet I do run 2 infa currently guan scipio , Liu Alex since I had him and skipped Wallace how ever it's now Liu Wallace, Ragnar scipio ,the guan Alex if you are infa main

[@AhmedAnilll]

There will be more rip commanders in rok 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@hasanozay4176]

Hera ile test

[@سأبقىاحبك]

حدا يترجملنا

[@peterjobovic3406]

Ragnar P +Sargon 5550?

[@bryanmarcial-gaytan5072]

First