Nobody is building this Server...

[@t1merickson]

Server cost: $18 SSDs cost: $18,000

[@RaidOwl]

Lmao not far off

[@MarcBehar]

but in 10 years when those drives have 0.1% life left they will be on ebay for almost affordable!

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@MarcBehar that's businness grade SSD so endurance is on a different planet and are often replaced well before the drive itself is expended. Current 10+ year old businness SSDs on ebay are on the 70-80% life left

[@BringNightmares]

Check refurbished/recertificated sellers, allot cheaper

[@MarcBehar]

I know, it was just a joke - servethehome have a great vid on how ppl overthink SSD wear with enterprise drives

[@Solkre82]

There is a place for overkill in the tech industry. And it's in bald men's KZbin videos.

[@naotomuramasa178]

Solidigm drives use less power... it's been 6 days, I should probably shower

[@ChromeBookChuck]

That’s the rule

[@Sumguysazz]

Bros dropping bars

[@infi84]

I mean, my server is almost like that, only it's 8x SATA SSDs in a single 5.25" ... cause you know, no normal person can afford these nvme drives.

[@markmonroe7330]

Excellent presentation. Thank you. Thanks for the tip on IcyDock. That said, I was actually looking at some Solidigm U.2 drives after reading about the new Minisforum MS-A2 that has a U.2 slot at PCIe 4 x4.

[@pippofranco32]

**builds a server with a RAID of NVMes with enough bandwidth to probably satisfy a f-ing datacenter** **shares the folder through 2.5Gbit Ethernet**

[@RaidOwl]

Next time we’re going 100Mbit

[@tomaskner9537]

@@RaidOwl I wanna see that 😆

[@LtdJorge]

Tbh, a direct connection of 40Gb or even 100Gb is kinda cheap nowadays. The problem is having a switch in between.

[@Cloudykins08]

Yes indeed. Nobody is building this server because we don't have companies 'Graciously' sending us drives to use in our builds.

[@robertt9342]

Well he technically doesn’t either as he can’t keep them.

[@michaelharbuck3314]

Yeah I have to agree with robertt9342 o that one. I like videos and build my own stuff too... but theres no way in Hades anyone watching can afford these drives. So basically an infomercial.

[@ramonrodrigueziv1742]

Cry about it

[@RaidOwl]

So wait…I can’t make videos about cool stuff unless everyone can afford it?

[@michaelharbuck3314]

@@RaidOwl sir you can make any video you want to. funny, my infomercial comment disappeared?? I had to scrounge and e-dupster-dive for a year to assemble my 25 disk nas. All you had to do was brown nose. cool.

[@saulgoodman1390]

This is the server equivalent to the guy who puts a $20000 stereo in his old Datsun

[@jarman365]

You forgot the $5000 rims, $3000 brembo brakes, $2500 suspension, $15000 RB swap, $10000 paint job, but all the bodywork was Bondo and the floorboards are still rusted through 😆

[@GldisAter]

"Why" was not my immediate question. How did you afford that much SSD space was my immediate question.

[@MaxTheDog167]

The answer is he didn't lol, but it looks like it was fun!

[@seanunderscorepry]

"100% reason to remember the name", nice chumbawumba reference. I caught that one

[@theatermusic87]

That was fort minor

[@thedeejlam]

For the m.2 adapter, look instead for one with a redriver, etc. and a cable that can handle PCIe 4 speed (or 5) for stability with U.2 or U.3 drives.

[@byKOGR]

Thats a "Sleeper Server" :D

[@funkijote]

I read “sleepover server” and thought yup!

[@kettusnuhveli]

I wonder what the SSD temps are like… 🤔 I remember Wendell saying something about U.2 drives choking in those IcyDock bays if you don’t run the fans at full speed.

[@jeremybarber2837]

These builds are right up my ally, keep ‘em coming! I have access to a bunch of nVidia T4s & keep pondering the smallest & cheapest 2U build to throw 4 or so into.

[@mistakek]

Loved this video, the absurd nature of the server is comical 😂. BTW the new set looks great.

[@LithiumSolar]

Expensive! But cool little build for a crazy-fast file server.

[@goddessofwar4955]

That 7600 will software transcode at higher quality with almost no problem several streams. It's strong enough to do it. This is the thing with the AM5. We're hitting a point where higher-quality CPU transcoding is possible because the chips just have the oomph to do it

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

If you don't want to settle for 2.5" SSD or U.2 drives, you can always splash $40,000 for a single ExaDrive EDDCT100, which has 100 TB packed in a 3.5" format.

[@dukeseb]

thanks for talking about icy dock, ive been looking for something like that

[@MarcBehar]

I've used those PCIE to Slimsas 8i cards and I would recommend for anything longer than those runs go for the ones with retimers as I was getting tons of errors with cables that were 80cm long

[@Standbackforscience]

No one is building that server because each one of those disks costs more than a whole computer. And 75W is far from a low power draw. We're not all youtubers who are showered in promotional freebies, nor do we all live in countries where electricity is practically free.

[@RaidOwl]

Cool

[@SamuelGerry]

I mean from the thumbnail I assumed that case wasn't stuffed with 3.5 inch drives, which meant the build was guaranteed to be out of my price range. No point in being salty that he got to borrow some stuff that none of us could afford to make a video to show what is possible. It's not much different than back in the day when people would go to a system builder website and see who could build the most expensive thing, except it's more entertaining in video format.

[@Standbackforscience]

@@SamuelGerry Well, it was educational at least. For example, I learned this channel has an abundance of "overkill" clickbait builds, so I could add it to my "don't recommend" list.

[@guy_autordie]

There is a french parody of "who want to be a millionaire?" where at one question the 4 answers were A. B. C. (3 possible/wrong) and D. "the answer D". So, my answer is E. Windows 7, the greatest windows of all time.

[@ArturoTabera]

Amen to that!

[@jackielinde7568]

So... is this how I build my home Steam Library server for all those games I've bought, but never got around to play?

[@akurenda1985]

I'm still waiting on the reason why, though....

[@chrisumali9841]

Thanks for the demo and info, this is great. Have a great day madman

[@ElmoR.McElroy]

The whole thing is exactly what I need but getting them all together sounds like rocket science😂😂

[@writingpanda]

OMG the cut when he's going to explain it... I laughed out loud. So good 💯💯💯

[@khan.No1]

Next time make a 1 petabyte server with 10pieces of 100 TB exadrive - will cost around 450/550k dollars

[@RaidOwl]

🫠🫠🫠

[@romayojr]

"It would be SO FUNNY if you built a server with feet pics...and sent them to "Tim"..hahahaha"

[@LokiCDK]

I like that chassis you showed off. I've been keeping my eye open for a half-height rack on second hand market, and watching consumer desktop rack chassis... I think that one you showed might be the best I've seen if you pair it up with icy dock.

[@sinisterpisces]

That case/board and a SAS/SATA IcyDock enclosure with an HBA and 10 GbE card would be the perfect Proxmox Backup Server build that I've been dreaming of. :) My J6005 Pentium Silver-based PBS needs an update, even if it only consumes 15 w or so. :P …Honestly, that case might be my favorite thing in this video. It's like a DIY Dell Optiplex SFF. This was fun, even if it did enable me to rebuild my backup server. Thanks!

[@deano153]

Why would you not use truenas on the bottom instead of proxmox? what benefit is that ? Truenas can be a hypervisor also.

[@RaidOwl]

I like Proxmox

[@Arian-gm4rx]

You're neck and neck with wolfgang in terms of sass per video and I love it

[@greenprotag]

I feel like SATA SSDs, an encoding GPU, and a 10Gb NIC, could actually make a GREAT deal of practical sense in this build when you have to give back the NVMe

[@greenprotag]

OR... you could get cheap $10 U.2 to NVMe caddies and keep MOST of the same hardware...

[@shephusted2714]

in a few years prices will drop a bunch - that's where we are going 100tb ftp sites - you can do it with 12 14tb refurb drives for about 1000, with big nvme for cache - plenty fast

[@zaclovespenguins]

I never used hardware transcoding until AV1 came out. I had an M1 Mac Mini running my plex server and 2 AV1 streams would choke it to death, so I upgraded to the M4 Mac Mini since it has support for AV1 and that combined with the better GPU I’ve had it stream 8 AV1 streams. For a Plex/Jellyfin server it’s a 10/10, plus it sips so little power it can stay on my battery backup and I can stream during power outages lol

[@Mr_ToR]

SMB share fom host in unpriviledged container only has read only right? Did you make it writable as well? I wished you showed that as well...

[@MaplePengiun]

All that storage behind a single 1Gb nic xD More seriously, I prefer passing an entire HBA through to my TrueNas VM so that way the hot-swap bays connected to the hba go right to TrueNas. I wonder if you had to hotswap one of those drives if proxmox would automatically passthrough the new drive to the VM based on the slot, or if it would see it as a new drive and that new drive would need to be manually passed to the VM.

[@deadlast561]

How did you discover that the motherboard had bifurcation? I don't see it in the specs anywhere

[@RaidOwl]

Different manufacturers are better about their docs. You may have to dig a bit.

[@intheprettypink]

I have one of those 4U chassis, with two icy dock 8 x 2.5" bays. They are expensive. I can only imagine getting the modern nvme bays to be waaaaay more expensive. Good case though, but annoying to wire it up with 16 x 2.5" sata and power. Cant imagine what it would look like fully loaded.

[@chaosfenix]

I think it will be cool as solid state storage gets cheaper and builds like this actually become somewhat normal. You would need to throw in 100G networking though.

[@A77ick]

7:04 Your Schitty KZbin videos? Did you partner with Schitt audio? Can't wait to see your big Schitt Stack!

[@RaidOwl]

Only the finest around here

[@wagnonforcolorado]

It will literally be a Schitt Show! :D

[@sanyr80]

*slaps roof of server* this bad boy can fit so much fucking anime in it

[@prime_dew]

bruh...i literally forehead palmed when you said hannah montana os

[@ferdinandbardamu3945]

I can’t believe you don’t even have a hdd to cache that array

[@CephasSamwini]

No magnifying glass impression today! I am gutted

[@radeksparowski7174]

the 61,44TB solidigm u.2 costs in europe with tax around 8000 euros for common mortals, they will introduce 122TB version anytime now, no clue about the price though....would love to have a asus flashstore sized thingie with four of them in some raid array for less than a new car

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

If we go by pricing of what's currently out there with that capacity, it most likely will cost around $40,000, which is the price of the ExaDrive EDDCT100 100 TB SSD.

[@radeksparowski7174]

@@BrunodeSouzaLino yup, BUT the exadrive is only sata :-D, the u.2 beasts are nvme with some 7000 read and 3000 write speeds MB/s, with SATA it would be 550 at best......anyhow, multiple ssd makers confirmed m.2 form factor drives for consumer should be introduced in q1 this year in 16TB capacity, hope price drops massively for flash nand....

[@gaua31415]

From experience last month, There is a caveat with an igpu When i received the cpu I found out I could not split the x16 slot into 4x4 lane because the GPU used some, so my 4x m.2 card could not work with it

[@goddessofwar4955]

depends on the board; you must have a B650E to really pull this off, which isn't mentioned, at least in my experience

[@gaua31415]

@goddessofwar4955 my nas has a 3700x with an x570 board. On black Friday there was a pretty amazing deal on a 5700g so I upgraded for the gpu but could not split in 4x4x4x4 anymore

[@goddessofwar4955]

@ Right. Because the 5700g is a PCI-E 3.0 chip and provides less PCI-E lanes; plus the X570 boards aren't often allowing 4x4x4x4x but if you have a 5700g, then PCI-E slot one is automatically reduced to x8 as several lanes are diverted to the iGPU

[@lukasyelle4708]

Love the humor in your videos!

[@MichaelBruceTaos]

I use those In-win cases all the time for business builds.. they are awesome.

[@wallyrogers2371]

If someone sent me these drives, I'd do the same thing. Well, I'd also run off to another country and start my own datacenter, but you do you.

[@MikeBohde]

I have been using that 4u case for years now. It's pretty good.

[@kiruadark]

Precision about hardware transcoding with AMD iGPU with Plex. It's working pretty well but indeed, HDR content will be washed out. It needs HDR tone mapping which uses CPU (HW transcoding is still used and brings a gain). But for SDR content, it's rocking.

[@iamamish]

Me: "Hi sweetie, just an FYI that I'm building another server" Her: "Oh, can I assume you're going the budget route?" Me: "Oh for sure - I have everything picked out except the storage" Scene: Court room, divorce proceedings

[@coletraintechgames2932]

I have an extremely good question 0:30

[@RaidOwl]

Yes

[@coletraintechgames2932]

@RaidOwl :-)

[@johnnycaps1]

Got the price of the CPU, the Motherboard, the RAM, the 2TB SSD - known, the "Adapter Cards", the power supply. SO Cool....Awesome! Rising EXCITEMENT!! Then - the big let down, OUCH, $20,000 for Nvme drives. Too sad. But still cool. And it's fun to dream.

[@FraggleH]

I've been trying to spec out something very similar to this (with much less capacity, obvs) for a while, and that IcyDock module is the thing that kills it everytime. Just can't justify doubling the cost of the whole system before storage purely to have NVMe speeds (and that SAS->Oculink cable isn't cheap either). Which is a shame, because I think once that part in particular has some competition, blazing fast server setups are gonna be in a lot of people's reach.

[@MrEnyecz]

75W is low? For idle it's waaaaay to much, so I hope it's not idle.

[@LiLBitsDK]

had considered a less "extreme" one in an old intel 8300 which has a 5.25" bay and then 4x 8TB 2.5" SATA drives... still hella expensive... for a 24TB array (1 fault drive) those other drives is a bit too pricey for us poor normies and even 24TB useable space might not be enough with the movie collection I have and it is ever growing

[@TheMatthewLedbetter]

I wasn't expecting a Fort Minor callout in a Tech YT Video, but here we are :D

[@RaidOwl]

Welcome to 2025

[@kostaz13]

Of course, I only use hannah montana os for my home lab setup.

[@joshua_lee732]

I dont use portainer because I prefer just using docker compose which gives me WAY more options I'm familiar with than a GUI

[@howyoudoin2069]

I love the unapologetic - just cause I can. It is what it is. Fun! 😂

[@markshaz8691]

Do you know if the controller and drives work with Unraid.

[@RaidOwl]

Yes

[@msolace580]

we dont build it because we aren't sponsored to make it for free. money printer doesn't go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr at home....

[@darthkielbasa]

Look at the big brain on Brad all NVME 150 TB

[@RoloSolis81]

The Silverstone CS380 or CS382 could help you make a ridiculous all icy dock accessories video!

[@samserious1337]

Serious question: what do we need that much storage at home for? I can't even max out my 1TB internal ssd.

[@RaidOwl]

Porn

[@BringNightmares]

My current film/footage etc is already growing faster, only 16TiB now, but yeah gotta expand

[@samserious1337]

@@BringNightmares what are u filming?

[@haonnoah]

0:30 same explination when my friends ask my why I built a 57TB-Z2 NAS 😅 (as they stream from Plex)

[@theWSt]

"I went with Hannah Montana OS" 😂😂😂

[@kirksteinklauber260]

The barrier of entrance is the cost of high capacity of NVMe and SSD drives 😢

[@RaidOwl]

Truuuuu

[@BringNightmares]

The TempleOS is such a nerdy reference xD

[@RaidOwl]

Guilty

[@BringNightmares]

@@RaidOwl At least we are one of the few that still remember that ... thing.... xD

[@vitorladeira9166]

Hello, I'm from Brazil, please make a video on how to set up a cheaper but efficient server to put your programming projects online, but you have to have the Linux Ubuntu operating system and use little energy and the list of parts to be able to search.

[@truenetgmx]

75w power consumption... doing what? idle? low load? full load? interested because right now my full homelab consume 75w - wonder if upgrade is worth it

[@frankwong9486]

Going to copy the homework and made a slightly Affordable version with old parts 😂 Icydock/ripoff brand 4/6 sata ssd tray , then pcie bifurcation on x16 slot, fill other slot with nvme adaper This thing small enough to hide under table

[@tmasaitis]

how about a video on following scenario,- hardware truenas scale, with 4 storage drives, 1 nvme for OS, currently in production. need to make backup, install on the same metal proxmox ve, install on proxmox truenas scale in VM format, pass harware HBA adapter to VM, reconnect drives and restore truenas scale previous config with all production data ?

[@oliverolsen620]

$18.000 of SSDs and no irrelevant benchmarks when streaming 1080p videos to Plex ??? Too bad this was released now and not before Christmas, as I now have to wait another 11 months before submitting my list to Santa... 😞 Great video and content..!! Keep up the good work 🙂

[@nadtz]

That Icydock bay costs almost as much as my Sliger cx4712. Was interested till I saw the price, for that much I'll get a 3d printer and jank it up instead. Was also really confused why they went oculink but that's a whole different thing. Also at max power those NVME can hit as high as 25w and idle at like 5 so they use more power than spinning rust but with only 4 of them performance per watt is arguably worth it.

[@AizenJoestar42]

it’s so unfortunate that pcie bifurcation is not fully implemented on consumer intel CPU, amd video transcoding is not that good compared to intel. even with AM4 cpu, the bifurcation only supported x8x4x4 with an integrated graphics APU, but was working with a CPU without integrated graphics.

[@sepheronx]

I was about to build a PC with exact same case and the drive bay.....

[@ytdlgandalf]

75 watts.. really? That's running costs of 250 euro per year in most of europe

[@RaidOwl]

Ok?

[@jvebarnes]

Isn't a U.2 drive just 2 NVME SSD's in an enclosure pretending to be a SATA drive?

[@jayburnham3994]

"This guy's a phony" lol

[@gamergamer2990]

virtualizing truenas is pain i used it for two two year it was full of bug and error which is took too much time so i decide to end it today for good

[@justADeni]

I wish they let you keep them

[@chrisradtke]

I was really hoping you were gonna show how to make Hannah Montana OS into a powerful VM host.

[@RaidOwl]

One day

[@fivoasia64]

@@RaidOwl Use the Wrecking Ball video of her floating around on the Internet as inspiration. :)

[@deechvogt1589]

Fun and intresting. Loved it!

[@DoubleGreatRock]

I agree with your reasoning on why entirely.

[@RaidOwl]

It was hard to put into worfs

[@SammerJammer]

Are there any spots that have cheap refurb'd U.2 SSDs for normies trying to have a few TB of storage in their servers? I know serverpartdeals has some, but are there any other places you recommend? There's gotta be a bunch of early U.2 drives being decomm'd in massive amounts somewhere. It would also be cool to create a more realistic build with refurb'd U.2 drives for the average homelab user as flash prices get less expensive. It would also also be cool to see a tiered storage build, maybe a few U.2 SSDs sit in front of a larger HDD array with some service that moves things between the fast storage pool and slower storage pool for more longer term needs, so its the best of both worlds (Not intended to be a Hannah Montana pun but it fits with this video lol).

[@fivoasia64]

I wish I knew. Why not flood the small business market with smaller versions of this with a lower-cost U.2 NVME? I'd carry it to mobile flea markets to drive laser engraver setups on a fiber laser using a generator for power. Few applications in small businesses require more than 7TB of data, ever. When 8TB NVME devices drop to $300 or less I really feel you're going to see a lot more concepts take advantage of solid state storage in a mobile setup.

[@DataHoarders]

My first question was how much, not why. The why is obvious.

[@RaidOwl]

A lot

[@isaakvervenne8387]

ssdraid: lets do 10+GB/s reads, network: no thank you : )

[@JokingChickenn]

Solidigm drives use less power... Its been 6 days, I should probably shower

[@frederichardy8844]

Icy Dock is cool but really to expensive here in France...

[@iham1313]

picking a 45or even more bay 4u server with - for starters - a few good ol rust drives would be cheaper, more extendable and therefore a better and sustainable solution. price and power consumption of those u2 30tb drives is ... well; high.

[@carlostavaresjr958]

Cool build. I would have done KVM over proxmox but still nice build!

[@joemccall8991]

The first question I though of was who is giving Raid Owl $15k in SSDs?

[@RaidOwl]

I had the same question

[@stocky9803]

Man after that asrock beast you had on here i think your starting to gain a bit of reputation in the homelab space for being that bald guy with a google datacentre

[@joshuadean9317]

It’s been 6 days… I should probably shower

[@dawn1berlitz]

i could never afford those SSD'sand for a media nad backup server project those would be overkill

[@SilentDecode]

What am I doing? Running Docker without Portainer.. That's what I'm doing. I very much DON'T like Portainer.

[@RaidOwl]

Ok