N&W Buffalo to New Haven and Everywhere In Between

[@RailsChicago]

Nothing beats 70's, 80's and early 90's railroading before the mega-mergers homogenized everything.

[@brandtbecker1810]

That damned Staggers Act ruined American railroading. But, what do you expect from an institution full of mental midgets known as the US Congress??? Might as well just nationalize the whole thing and be done with it.

[@jerrybutler605]

Amen! Seeing these reminds me of when dad took me railfanning as a kid and I seen some of these.

[@railfanlynx]

we shouldn’t have allowed those mega-mergers, you know it’s not to late to reverse them! I propose we just break up UP and BNSF then NS

[@lablaine1981]

💯 agreed...same way all of our cities have become homogenized since 1980

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

This is the definition of train porn. My gosh... Look at all those High Hoods, ALCOs, GEs, Cabooses, first, second, and third generation diesels!!! And original sound without wind noise! My oh my!!!

[@SirWinstonBeech]

I would rather have original sound, even if it's low quality, than fake dubbed sound of an EMD over an Alco or FM like Sunday River did to all their NYC films.

[@bradleyogden5688]

Smart thinking man right here! Thank you, thank you and thank you for doing this!

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

@@SirWinstonBeech lol. like in the movies and tv of 60s and 70s. every car used a classic Chrysler Double Reduction gear starter. jump in a Buick or a Ford sounded like starting a Dodge 🤔🙃

[@SirWinstonBeech]

@@truckerkevthepaidtourist Yeah a lot of that. They didn't want the sound of a GM starter which usually was slowing down as the Delco battery drained... ruh ruuuh ruuhaa ruu....

[@patricknoveski6409]

High hoods common then. Nice to see. F units look tired. Amazing clean trains. No graffiti.

[@millzym3381]

This is probably the best quality of footage and sound from those times on those cameras that I've ever seen and heard on KZbin. The fact that it's my favorite historical railroad is just a bonus :)

[@rwnelson51]

A real gem of railroading videos. BTW, no graffiti and waves from the crews!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@delpproductions217]

Yes You Can See The Engineer Waving occasionally 😊

[@briannorman1989]

These videos are just fantastic.

[@genemorrisjr.2245]

I ♥️ watching this ! My dad was a breakman/switchman for N&W Railway in Roanoke Virginia from 1967 - 1981. Seeing this brought back great memories ! And the footage was great as well ! This is exactly how NW freight trains looked and sounded back when I was a kid in elementary school during the mid 70s and as well as when my dad worked on them. Once again really enjoyed this 😀

[@rockislandmodeler6802]

One of the best rail videos I have seen on you tube!! That NW Bicentennial unit was a nice bonus!!

[@draytonblackgrove]

The best railroad video on KZbin, hands down.

[@appalachianrails]

That lead ALCO at 5:50 is still around today operating for the Durbin and Greenbrier Valley Railroad in Staunton, VA.

[@christophercarey3232]

What as?

[@appalachianrails]

@@christophercarey3232DGVR 367

[@eddurnwald3131]

Films were made by Ed Durnwald - Super 8 mm sound starting in 1974. Yes that is my white Corvette setting in front of Green Springs, Oh tower. Was an operator there 1971 - 72, 73, tower was closed sometime after those years

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Did you get a digital copy of these from me (Cory) from Dale DeVene a couple of years ago? Otherwise, please personal message me.

[@eddurnwald3131]

No, I did not. Wish I could find who has the original films that I photograph.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Ed Durnwald please PM me your address and I will send you a digital copy of these movies on a hard drive or DVD. I do not have your movies. I have all of Todd Miller's tapes which is the source of this footage. He had these digitized for Vignettes of the N&W which was released shortly before his death.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

I deleted your comment since it had your address and phone number, but I copied it down. I will get the copies of those films headed your way soon.

[@SirWinstonBeech]

These are the films I coulda/shoulda/woulda made of the N&W if I had the ability back then. I would love to have a DVD copy. Quality is very good for super 8, I would have guessed they were 16mm.

[@SoonerStateSirens1]

This made me shed a tear because I missed out on the glory days of railroading

[@derekg1524]

Guilford Rail System bought a lot of the old N&W GP35s and SD45s and ran them on the old Boston & Maine in the 90s through the early 2000s, usually in groups of 3 or 4. They sounded great climbing out of the Hudson Valley and they still had the same horns that they had in this video.

[@WaffleDragon]

The live sound makes this so much better. Nice catch of the Bicentennial unit leading. Thanks for posting this!

[@JLScott3178]

The scene at 27:13 with the classy old boy getting after it with the 1594 is golden. This stuff is solid gold! He looks like he had a golf game! And good for him!

[@b3j8]

Gotta love that open auto rack! There's a piece of history for you!

[@kraz904]

Thanks for the videos. Railfanning in a corvette, cool. Love the old engines giving their all. Cabooses, cool. And the best, not a spot of graffiti on any equipment...

[@VVK5W]

567 music. Alco & GE music. M horns, OC P horns, S3's & s5's. Pretty sure the F unit had a WABCO horn. One of the best 8mm rail videos on the internet. Thanks for sharing.

[@rfpproductions1836]

This has to be one of the coolest trains videos I’ve ever seen, amazing work!

[@amboy362]

Growing up in Conneaut during the 70's brings back great memories...Thanks Ed.

[@tedzeiller2711]

Fantastic!!!! An era I've always wished I could see and you brought it to life!

[@TheDash1112]

Great video! Proud to see that the very first train is led by a unit I’ve run many times. N&W 2517 ex NKP 517 and currently Winchester & Western RR #517.

[@traviscurlutu7723]

I hired with NS 1995. Worked between Chicago and Bellevue. Remember some of these older engines now long gone. Great vid!

[@machinist1879]

Phenomenal video!!! Such classic sights and sounds! Thanks for sharing a classic!

[@shadowzimmerer6388]

Very nostalgic! My beginnings to all things trains in this era. Deeply missed

[@coasterodyssey]

That Western Maryland F unit at 3:40 is nuts! I wonder how it ended up in the consist.

[@tombarnes7196]

Thanks for that trip in the Time Machine! Those scenes are now long gone...

[@anb740]

The “puttering” of a 567 in a GP9 coupled with the chug of an ALCO makes for musical exhaust sounds!

[@Upguy-tj3gv]

can you give me the time stamp?

[@gregkaufman3515]

The two Fs pulling a TOFC is probably the highlight for me. That they were still running in the mid 70s is fantastic.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

By this time, all the USA built(NW) F's were long gone. These ;last few on the NW were Canadian built. When taken out of service they were sent to Bellvue, from Canada. To see them operating in Ohio is astounding. My guess this was during one of the bad winters,,1977-78 so they put them back in service.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

I photoed 5 or 6 of the Canadian F's in Bellvue deadline in 1977.

[@grated_lemon5630]

FLs were still in service with AMT in Canada by 1999

[@LotusbandicootRR]

32:00 I saw NS 6151 back in 2007, I think... pretty cool to see it running back in its original heritage.

[@jefftoft5568]

Great video, excellent look at N&W history and variety of engines that made up the N&W fleet.

[@timgerard262]

Interesting how you can hear the film going through the camera.

[@HenrikSweden1]

Had to look once more, so good. This must be ca 1976 or a tad later, at 32 a Conrail hi cube, freshly painted, rolls by !

[@johncline8416]

Awesome video Thanks! N&W Southern and Norfolk & Southern are my favorite Railway’s out of all. That’s what my model railroad is all about.

[@brianbooher2286]

Reminds me alot of the trains i use to see in bristol tn as a kid in the early 80s

[@michaelfullerton3626]

23:30 NW 1776! I had the Tyco HO set with that engine in it.

[@b3j8]

I forgot to also say that tho the NKP side of NE "tower" seen at 4:59 usually didn't see high speed moves, the old Wabash main where the photographer is standing did! ! It was abit un-nerving to stand in the building watching a hot move like KD-12 coming around that curve right at you at 60 plus! Busy place.

[@mikeytrains1]

b3j8 What was the regular speed around that part?

[@b3j8]

@@mikeytrains1 The Wabash trackage speed limit was 60. I was visiting NE one nite when KD-12 hit the bell. He had a narrow window to be handled ahead of a group of Van trains 30 miles north at the busy Conrail crossing in Butler Indiana, and I remember saying something to the Operator about the 60 mph speed limit. His curt reply was "Not tonite!"

[@grissimpson6621]

I loved the video. The sights the sounds. That rumble that you hear before you see the locomotives. Brings back great memories of growing up in the 70s and early 80s. The Western Maryland is my favorite.

[@nkp756]

Great video. Worked summers for N&W, two on the track two as a brakeman at East 55th street. I remember those SD-45s on the point of Apollo 1 And 2. Rode CC-1 once to Chicago. Great memories thanks so much!

[@wnyrailfan9510]

Love these videos, the N&W sure used a variety of power... love the high hood U-boats

[@SirWinstonBeech]

N&W bought a total of 140 U28B and U30Bs all high nose. They quickly moved them to the west lines, I don't think they were favorites. They didn't last long, but they were in their prime during the time I was railfanning and the period I model, roughly 1974-76 on the Ft. Wayne division / western lines.

[@buixrule]

@@SirWinstonBeech I'm not sure I know what a "high hood" is. What time stamp of the video do they appear so I can see? What differentiates them design wise from other engines?

[@AlexTrain5249]

It’s that the nose of the locomotive extends to the roof. As opposed to it being lower down where most are. High hoods were extremely common on N&W.

[@rgsnidow1]

Yeah I remember those engines on coal drags going past the farm done in Va..engineers and crews all complained about just about everything on em and they were underpowered for the Mtns and back then they listened to their employees when now all they think about is the almighty dollars.

[@williamyoull3318]

Great video I love the sight and sound of the N&W

[@danielgannon9502]

That was awesome! A fine way to spend 45 minutes on a Sunday morning. Thank you for posting!

[@crlaw75]

Or a cold evening.

[@DanzigFan-vq3zf]

Nice video. Photographer: Ed Durnwald. Also, AUTHENTIC SOUND! :D This is a treasure for all railfanners.

[@rkproductions1141]

I like that corvette in the first 2 videos

[@deanster3435]

I'm guessing that was the camera man's car?

[@TheAlignmentGuy_TM]

Tail panel says 74 or later. Rear window says 77 or earlier. That's as far as my Vette spotting skills go.

[@w.keithmcdonald8461]

I know, right ??,....that thing is sweet !!

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

@@w.keithmcdonald8461 Those Corvettes were also the most lame versions of the mark. With all the pollution controls and timing adjustments, they could barely pull a dog out of a dog house.

[@CarolinaRails]

40:18 to 44:22 are my Favorites because I grew up around these areas, But these trains were filmed way before I was born, But it's nice to see what the railroad was like back then. I know this track once had a Bridge crossing the Albemarle Sound, Bridge was Dismantled in '89 because Norfolk Southern Deemed it to be a "Maintenance Nightmare". But to this day, I always wonder what the Railroad would be like if they didn't Dismantle the Bridge.

[@crlaw75]

So my assumption is that line is abandonded because of the bridge.

[@CarolinaRails]

The rest of the Line is operated as a Short line, it is owned by the Chesapeake and Albemarle Railroad.

[@sparkydimartini7178]

Great video! Love the high hoods

[@danielfarmer9533]

This brings back memories I grew up in southern West Virginia and saw these trains all the time

[@jamesunderwood6053]

Great video, was the best of times to watch the N&W!

[@EricKNYShinzoOCHudson]

Nice footage of the good ol’ days especially at 6:45 and 40:25. Can I use the video at one point for sounds or for reupload?

[@JLScott3178]

This stuff is incredible! Thanks for the effort and great work!

[@markdiehl1963]

Great video. Nice quality. Love the alcos

[@tommyhaynes9157]

This was all killer and no filler ...loved it

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Some of those alcos sound extra gritty in this, like how a proper diesel should sound

[@trainsofwisconsin]

9:20 my favorite scene

[@AGSGuy]

Gotta love the big waves from the crews, always makes you enjoy railfannin even more 24:40, 26:20, 27:10 (Even dead head crew in second unit and caboose!), 31:13, and 32:44! Also awesome to see the F-Units at 37:40! Very glad that sound is with these films as well. What years were these taken?

[@grated_lemon5630]

mid-late 70s I think?

[@mikeenssle7259]

Great great video prob one of the best old school filming with the sound. Also cool to see some B&LE coal cars on some of those trains and seeing Conneaut Ohio great stuff!!!

[@jacobswope6179]

The Southern horns along the original Norfolk Southern at the end. Priceless.

[@sardu55]

I enjoy seeing these old films from the winter. With the snow you can get an idea of the power of the train as it pushes the snow and flies thru the place. I've always wondered what it would be like to be holding down the shift in the caboose. Cooking the meals, playing some cards, listening to the radio and even talking to your fellow worker. Some of the shifts could go on for awhile especially if there was seriously bad snow or if your relief/replacement crew was stuck in that snow. If it was possible to ride in one today, and maybe have some light function to do like checking track conditions or receiving messages to make it interesting, I'd sign-up quicker than I delayed reporting for my draft notice. Wonder if the caboose guys ever ate C-rats.

[@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont]

They were too busy watching the train for smoke, shifting loads, dragging equipment, or any number of problems that could jeopardize safety. Then, if the train stopped for any reason and they didn't have a "flag order" the rear trainman would have to go back "the prescribed distance" (usually at least half a mile) and protect the rear of the train until recalled. When not being a lookout, the conductor was busy at his desk with the "wheel report" and other paperwork. I will grant you that some hot chili or stew or some fried eggs, bacon, and potatoes on the stove (and a pot of hot coffee) was a special pleasure unique to the trainmen on the caboose. I personally never heard of a crew eating C-rats, but I suppose it could happen.

[@mikefinney5269]

Lots of ex-NKP engines and cabooses. Very cool. Nice work.

[@jameshill1740]

Reminds me of the days of sitting on my bicycle watching watching a crew switch off the main at night using laterns lights to signal the engineer for clearance to back. Completely different feel. Graffiti free was so nice also

[@guyhartsel8797]

Love the Maple Grove scenes Been there and worked there many times while the operator caught a napp. Very easy tower. Loved those N&W trains flying past the tower and hitting the Pecumpany demon at high speeds. The penn central would crawl over it. Unless a certain engineer who knew was running

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

Holy crap.

[@brianbooher7318]

Very nice.i miss the Norfolk and western as do I the southern.i miss all the hi hoods coming thru bristol Tennessee where I live

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

around the 10:40 Mark and the 26:20 or so; where is that high trestle located at is that line still used or is it no longer around?

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

All lines in this video are in use today by NS. There are several trestles between Cleveland and Buffalo that are shootable for photos/video today. The one you're asking about is near Conneaut, OH.

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

@@RailroadMediaArchive cool. just wondered thanks

[@bruceschwab]

Incredible footage! Thanks for sharing.....this video really brings back some great memories!

[@dippin1523]

great film and sound

[@johnnorton8217]

This is an enjoyable video. Excellent job.😊😊

[@millzym3381]

The best railroad...and the best Corvette body style ever.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

They are bringing the stringray body style back for 2020 looks pretty good, still not as nice as the classic, and the questionable reliability of the Z71 in it is a turn off

[@kurt8986]

That engineer at 5:40 never left off the horn haha

[@crlaw75]

Those double train meets look awesome.

[@christopheretzwiler5635]

I lived in that exact area watching trains all the time I've lived in Fremont Ohio all my life chased the locals the heinz local ran by Don Hansburger and then Johnny walker and I drank with John walker in 1978 was some crazy times wow I've been living in Fremont Ohio 62 years now some great memories of Fremont trains 🚆 🚂🚂👍

[@jaiyanachowdhury5674]

The n&w sd40-2 6151 is a very powerful locomotive!

[@lydmik]

great video! love those shorter trains...its so nice to not have to fast forward thru a gazillion freight cars

[@jonnybeck6723]

These are really brilliant... that super 8 rig must've had some serious audio capability 'cause the sound is epic... Thanx for the upload and... cheers

[@valeriarobinson3771]

Divorce Court

[@valeriarobinson3771]

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[@davidsharp3110]

It's all about the microphone!

[@jacksonslaterelevatorraila6444]

it certainly was hopping back in the day.

[@davidsharp3110]

That was very cool. Takes me to being a kid.

[@tomt9543]

Sometimes I ask myself why I quit railfanning 30 years ago. This video answered that question! Now it’s all widecabs and graffiti…..

[@Stealth_Grey]

Pretty awesome seeing brand new sd40-2s in fresh paint

[@rgsnidow1]

I believe that train at 26:04 is down between Glen Lynn and Bluefield WV

[@northernohiorailfanningpro8899]

The Trestle just east of Conneaut Ohio actually.

[@HILLERYYARD]

wow fantastic video..alot of nice shot of locos.. any N&w fan must watch this.

[@ljones121]

Was there ever a diamond crossing in Conneaut? Watching the one train come off the large trestle looks like Conneaut but it crossed a diamond right after

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

No diamond in Conneaut.

[@ljones121]

@@RailroadMediaArchive didn't think so just wanted to make sure my faculties are intact

[@HenrikSweden1]

Great film. Looks like early 70s, yellow ttx, lube plates, LV caboose. Wish i was there ! In summertime....

[@cristianooliveira2291]

Just Amazing!!! Awesome scenes!!!!

[@tommythomason6187]

Nice Business Train with the reddish GE unit, and later in the clip, two F7s on what looks to be a local freight. Bet the Fs were ex-Wabash. Add a cabless booster unit between the Fs, and they would have made better looking units for that Business Train. It was a solid ralroad and whatever government agency that helped to meddle many railroads out of business, forced NW to run the beleagured Erie Lackawanna. I read in Trains Magazine (long back) that the N&W folks referred to Erie Lackawanna as, "The Erie Lackamoney," lol!

[@larrystultz7545]

Excellent simply excellent 😊

[@osrr6422]

Wow, great footage. Original sound included? Even better. Also, Mid 70s? I was thinkin Alcos were gone on the N&W by late 70s.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Yes, original sound.

[@christianrone1325]

Railroad Media Archive More Original sound video clips please! lol

[@snuka33]

Fantastic! Thank you for posting!

[@christophercarey3232]

Back when Leslie horns were dominant.

[@atsf4931]

Is 14:20 at Fremont Ohio? Seems very familiar to the place where I caught an NS local last year

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Yes.

[@shortliner68]

Nice to see all the old fallen flag road names on the freight cars that I used to see watching trains in the Baltimore area back in the 1960s and '70s, as well as the older diesel engines.

[@58gentlegiant]

This is an awesome video!!

[@daf827]

Excellent video! I love the white ‘Vette, too.

[@ericzerkle5214]

7:13 LV run through caboose.

[@CR7966]

10:06 too

[@chasemajochthevyondboy9927]

40:15 southern 5110 working norfolk southern date: 1982 high pitched horn

[@hartmutlorentzen9659]

Great video, Thanks from Germany

[@delpproductions217]

Is There Any More Footage Of the N&W SD45 No. 1776 In Action?

[@delpproductions217]

My Favorite Locomotives: 23:14 N&W SD45 #1776 39:10 N&W GP38AC #4104

[@HILLERYYARD]

wow..a lauhoff grain boxcar at 26.33..nice to see that. wonder if its from my hometown of Danville, IL?

[@b3j8]

Either High 8, or 16 mm video w/sound. Pretty high tech railfanning for that era. If we'd only had VHS 10-15 yrs earlier. But I'm not griping. The good stuff is the good stuff!

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

Super 8 sound.

[@b3j8]

Ok. When it was transferred it had survived in very good condition. Usually the sound isn't so hot either. But again is decent. Thanks.

[@RailroadMediaArchive]

It has nothing to do with the transfer. Super 8 sound was very low fidelity. When it was new in the mid 70s, that was the best you got with consumer equipment.

[@b3j8]

I DID NOT say it did sir. I simply made the statement it seemed abit better than average. Period.

[@nvaa1991]

Where was 8:13 recorded at?

[@projects4dad952]

Conneaut, Ohio. The train is pulling out of the old NKP yard heading east towards the viaduct as seen in other parts of the video.

[@nitrofumes2012]

Awesome video! Thank you! I'm currently studying the N&W for a project and this is a big help. Did the Nickel Plate ever run its engines with the N&W consists? Also does the blue color and the black color have any significance on the engines? Thank you!

[@glenn6936]

NKP power was likely run with N&W power, but not for long because N&W had almost all the NKP units repainted pretty quickly. I lived within sight of the NKP line and I only saw a couple of units still in NKP paint.

[@glenn6936]

After the NKP/Wabash merger, N&W began to paint their power blue, which was Wabash blue. So, at times you'd see all black units on a train or sometimes all blue and sometimes a mix. No particular reason to see the blues and blacks mixed, just whenever they had time to get them painted.

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

@@glenn6936 I always like the yellow lettering on the Norfolk and Western Wabash blue

[@glenn6936]

Me, too!

[@ahilltodieons]

only problem is these are sped up just slightly from the original speed... beautiful though