Railroads Online! ep7 | Coal Mine Planning

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Railroads Online - Build and run your dream railroad through an huge Open World!
Play exciting Online Multiplayer sessions with your friends or create your very own Singleplayer experience!
Build tracks, switches, turntables, trestles and more to traverse forrests, planes, rivers, and canyons.
Build stations, yards and other infrastructure along your routes to service your trains with fuel, water and sand.
Interact with regulators, valves, brakes, couplers and many more features in first person to drive your vehicles.
Transport goods like logs, ores, coal, oil and various other freight for a broad variety of industries to earn capital.
Invest, upgrade and customize your rolling stock and routes.
Enjoy the realistic railroad physics system: Railroads Online uses the advanced UnrealEngine physics system to achieve a very realistic railroading experience.
Suited for arcade- and simulator friends alike!

[@litlanternproductions1293]

To manage steep grades to the coal mine, try using switchbacks. You can't run a long train through unless you leave the tails long, but it allows you to take a shorter route over higher terrain. It was a common strategy used by logging and quarry railroads of this time period.

[@teddrewflack400]

Yes , zig zag railroads were very common for steep elevation change. Japan has modern versions of these for mountain passenger services.

[@sduoqsoq7478]

@@teddrewflack400 they also have touges for cars

[@GTlct04]

Some time lapse runs of the line would be fun, instead of skipping over?

[@KerboOnYT]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@randomguyoninternetidk4014]

@@KerboOnYT I do agree with Grant

[@everett86]

I made it to the end of the video but it took me two days. Thankfully I had enough firewood in my train to get to the logging camp to refuel my train as I had asked you how to do that earlier. Then today they add fully stocked firewood depots as default! Oh well, at least I did it the hard way once. :P

[@AndrewsRChelis]

There is a path from the coal mine down to near the river.

[@launcesmechanist9578]

A KZbinr called Sevex2020 made some videos about Gradient testing. The Porter can actually manage a 10% Grade with eight loaded cars. The Eureka can only handle up to 5% but then again it's a passenger locomotive not a freight. He hasn't done the other engines yet though. Also perhaps a geared locomotive like the Climax and Heisler would be better suited for the more difficult terrain.

[@jamesneumann2003]

The Heisler is probably the better locomotive for the Iron Ore Mine track, I've hauled 12 flat cars up my track at 55% regulator, no sand and didn't slow down at all. The only thing about the Heisler is it doesn't like being above 59% regulator due to a bug, if it happens just put the regulator to 0 then back to what you need. As slow as the Heisler is, it is definitely worth the purchase.

[@chaos6313]

i perfer the climax although slower then the heisler it does not have the bug and can pull anything anywhere

[@billyp4850]

@matthis741 Yeah my Climax goes funky at high regulator, but I haven't needed to use anything that high yet

[@joonalehtinen5922]

@@chaos6313 let me remind you all that this game is getting updates like there is no tomorrow. The problem with heisler will propubly be fixed soon and it might be woth to wait it rather than going for the climax.

[@TheSuckmydickasshole]

my max so far was 18 full cars up to the coal mine as 20% reg with the Climax with no slippage or sand. not sure why i see so many others build such large ground work going up. mine is relatively low to the ground the entire way up

[@joonalehtinen5462]

"needs to be redone" is the sentence in every players mind when playing this game.

[@michaelwilson5866]

Nothing is more permanent then something temporary that works.

[@dejulesb974]

@@michaelwilson5866 😂 that can be applied to anything in real life as well.

[@boomermeloche6799]

This is sooo funny! As you progress through the game, you realize you never have any time to go back and make the changes you ponder about. I am always just happy to make to the delivery. This game is amazing but it would be great to see a buff to the money earned. The reward doesn't always fit the time put into each step. Enjoying the videos Kerbo, very helpful!

[@The_One_Over_There]

it seems to be a trendy line in this game indeed. Could almost make a drinking game just watching Railroad Online players play the game while we wait on the famous *needs to be redone*

[@Your_Uncle_is_watching]

Your train when your track is a little off: bounce

[@CobetcknnKolowski]

Since the first Porter has an open cab, you could put two of them back to back two almost double your pulling power while it still being controllable. Although you might have to switch over to one of the geared locos for this steep climb. Love the longer vids!

[@MonsterJ-mv7nv]

Double-sided loco

[@chaos6313]

the porter needs to be nerfed bad and pushed in a hole then buried there for all time they are just broken

[@proudyorkshireman7708]

@@MonsterJ-mv7nv a discount double fairlie

[@markswick4901]

@@chaos6313 Not really. IRL they have good tractive effort. The thing the game isn't doing a great job of limited speed for the Porter. With the small drive wheels you either over speed the pistons or you just derail at higher speeds. You would also run out of steam at higher speeds as the small boiler just can't keep up with the exhaust rate of higher speeds. The Eureka has small pistons so it doesn't have buckets of torque and it has even larger drivers lessening the torque further. What it gains with the 4 wheel pilot and large drivers is much higher top speed. Really the Eureka is at home pulling an express car and some coaches. We just don't have those yet.

[@ObviousSchism]

A Pushmi-Pullyu

[@Javious_Rex]

I always wanted to get into model trains, but I never had the time, space and money needed at the same time. I am finding that Railroads Online scratches my model railroader itch in most ways.

[@crackinjahcs]

I've had what seemed like random derailments, especially near switches. I found out there is sometimes an invisible object in the track causing derailment. I found it by deleting the track but not the groundwork in that short section. Then I walk very slowly over the area and my player model will "hop up" onto the invisible object. It will only be a few pixels wide. I delete it by slowly panning the delete tool over the area until it also "hops up" onto the object and then deleting it.

[@Peepjouster27]

I get the same issue, I’m pretty sure it’s from the first placement of linked track to the switch, sometimes when doing that I don’t get any rails when I click. I think it’s then it’s creating the invisible doubleback

[@billyp4850]

I can see the invisible track that sometimes occurs when you click but nothing happens, causes things to derail.

[@lordsrednuas]

An empty hopper is 8,000 lbs. The black Porter has 6,110 lbf tractive effort and is itself 25,000 lbs. So that's 57,000 lbs you were trying to pull up that hill. The Porters are overpowered right now, but not that OP.

[@armagonarmagon3980]

Research Dev here. Overpowered? Yes. We mistakenly got its specifications wrong. It will eventually be nerfed down to 2,916 lbs. tractive effort, so the model will behave as it should.

[@jm0lesky]

At 11:45, alot of railroad enthusiasts think that railroading looks like fun but in reality it's 80% boring, 15% anger/resentment at the employer, and 5% fear/panic when things go wrong.

[@Ravenheartless322]

Hopper cars weigh around 8000 to 9000 pounds the flat cars depending on version weigh between 5600 to 6000. Heaviest car in game is tanker car at 10600 pounds these are empty weights

[@carycartter]

I have got to say, I appreciate the serious approach you have towards running the trains, especially the care with the start off and stopping.

[@killman369547]

I had a similar derailing accident on one of my bridges. After some investigating i discovered an invisible object on the track by walking along it and at a certain spot my player stepped up onto something. After demolishing the invisible object there was no more problem. So what i now do is after i complete a new line i'll take the porter down it with 2 cars going good and slow to check for invisible weirdness. I think the object was a super short piece of track that i accidentally placed down which was too short for the game to render but still physically there.

[@lwillimas]

Had the same thing happen to me I lost 2 cars and my tender 😕 r.i.p.

[@robertfivey4509]

I have really enjoyed watching your series Kerbo. You mention as a solo player, spotting cars is tough on the some of the narrow drop zones. Even harder the more cars you're dealing with in the consist. Ore mines being one of those. I started putting trestle decking instead of standard rail only where the zone is. It has let me hit the mark 99% of the time now. Much easier to see from a distance and at odd angles. Just wanted to try and give something back :)

[@daar1113]

Yeah, I watched all the dev streams and they said something about they are still kind of learning UE4 and the built in physics engine doesn't play the way they want it to so they wrote their own but the two systems are fighting. Hence the weird slack issues and wobbly hunting cars. Also, never accidently delete track out from under a pump car. You can't re-rail or move it after that. I even laid some new track under the stuck pump car and it yeeted several hundred feet up in the air but even after it landed it wouldn't let me re-rail it but at least it's no longer in the way. I've just left it where it is for now as an eternal reminder, lol

[@Scott_Diverscott]

It’s good to know that the water tower’s discharge pipe can be dragged a little bit forward and backward to hit the input hatch.

[@Javious_Rex]

Thanks for validating my decision to not follow the implied path from the smelter to the iron mine. I followed the same side of the valley but clung to the mountainsides with a 3% grade. I made my first run with 8 loads of cordwood behind a Mogul to test the track and to feed the firewood depot at the iron mine yard.

[@AllThingsRailroad]

Road bed underneath the switch stands is a must👌🏻

[@norbby42]

something something air generator something something maximum power something something cylinder cocks something something On a more serious note, I appreciate the long episode and quite enjoyed it. It definitely looks like the 4% gradient on that portion of the track is a killer. In my world, I managed to get away with following the mountain ledge and maintaining a 3% grade the whole way, but 90% of the route is on trestle at varying elevations above the ground (between 1 and 20 meters). Your route looks better. Curious to see how you lay the track for the Coal Mine.

[@TheLazyComet]

alright so the compressor and generator makes sense, but where is the slider for the Alternator and how often do you need to top up the headlight fluid?

[@KerboOnYT]

There's a loose nut behind the wheel, check behind that for the alternator slider. I always top off the headlight fluid when tightening the carburetor belt

[@danielhomant2832]

I don't know how well it is modeled, but to me the Tier 2 Porter would perform worse on pulling a hill. My reasoning is that it is heavier than the T1 by 3k lbs due to the rear truck and mini bunker. It doesn't have any extra tractive effort at all though. I consider the T2 Porter more of a long range version rather than an upgrade in any way. Useful but not better. Greetings from a fellow fedora wearer. Stiff grey felt with a wide brim.

[@KerboOnYT]

The tier 2 Porter does perform worse but I like the extra wood and the extra stability (less wiggle)

[@danielhomant2832]

@@KerboOnYT Oh goodness, the wiggle is atrocious. I typically just stand on the front of the first car to stabilize the camera. Or at the rear to cut trees as the pass, but ya gotta have full confidence in your rail for that, heh. Saves a ton of time though.

[@ronanvave560]

It would be nice if the devs since the puffing along with the simulation of loose steam packings, rod clank, brake squeal, dynamo sound and the sound of the air compressor. Also simulating a boiler explosion. That happens when you let the engine run dry for too long, thus making the crown sheet cave in, thus creating a fatal explosion. Finally, I hope they model in the proper use of the reverser steam cutoff, dirt and grime, along with the ability to clean the locomotive and rolling stock. Plus having the ability to clean out the smokebox and firebox after a hard day's work.

[@gamer85p]

Once I get to the steep inclines I'm planning on buying a 2nd betsy and linking the cab to cab so I can use them like a Fairlie locomotive

[@klyonsden]

So I understand your a Fedora fan. I went the Tilly way with both summer and winter hats. Love them!

[@UTElistan]

Cmon, man. Generator & Compressor! Every youtuber does it!

[@KerboOnYT]

I know of at least one KZbinr that knows how locomotives actually work

[@CrowDawg11]

11:32 might not be the most exciting stuff in the world, but it's real railroad stuff. Drop a cut of cars, pull ahead, shove back into an industry, pull ahead, throw the switch back, shove back to the cut you dropped, couple back up and head on down the line; that's real-life railroading for you if you work a local and of course without the local jobs you don't have road trains to haul

[@keimahane]

I was wondering about the Fedora RR, is that reference to your Linux SysAdmin? You answered my question just after I asked it, lol.

[@Anonymous-ie4xd]

first here my man.

[@Foxttellio]

Gg

[@Mallet10]

And I did make it to the end.

[@buckrodgers1162]

The first time I saw that depot at the Smelter I just thought "Switch". Having a switch placed right at the end of that iron dropoff into the cordwood dropoff. Edit: And yes, I made it to the end.

[@amilhubbard8755]

Lol Turn on the compressor and generator, will go faster..... LOL I had too... Cheers Great video.

[@tlheart]

oh The joys of testing how many cars can a engine pull up the hill, I think I can I think I can, nope.... I think I can I think I can, nope.... I made it to the end, and the view of the possible route to the coal mine was a nice feature.

[@awildjared1396]

I think it'd be really cool if they added a pair of cabooses, a bobber and full size caboose with OP handbrakes, sort of like derail valley but backdated to the game's era

[@Roboticus_Prime_RC]

9.95/10 Not enough whistle. :P

[@theworsthokage3015]

Also I’m new by a couple weeks and man I just love support small channels and watching them grow and seeing the views rise especially on this game! need to be better in likes always been bad

[@kittyztigerz]

Used generator booster train pulling i know yall dont use it because i know what it does it kick up heating and booster pressure to cycling give train more power but burn away alot of woods

[@talis84]

I had the same thing happen to me, around the switch. I took out most of what I laid down, and found an invisible anomaly by walking up and down the area my train kept derailing at. the camera would bounce me up where the anomaly was, and I kept clicking around the screen until the camera dropped back down to ground level.

[@pin8997]

you could try multiplayer and have 2 ports going up there with the iron carts. I would also be cool to see MP with your railway

[@Deadshot-cy1vr]

When he got stuck I would just have rerailed the cord wood cars behind the hoppers connected them to gather and just let them roll back down the mountain

[@blindtoad81]

The latest patch notes on I believe the 28th or so makes it so you have to deliver wood to the firewood station. Just a heads-up.

[@jacobburnside8923]

Should do a series where you play with some fans cause you making me wanna buy this game xD

[@davidprince2072]

Made it to the end Should have used the bigger engine Also I like the longer episodes

[@crow775]

Stalker: Anomaly | Fedora R. R. edition (made it to the end)

[@rallymax2]

Made it to the end of this and all the others. I like them longer. I spent all day laying track so it’s nice to see someone further along and running loads.

[@theworsthokage3015]

I’d watch you even lay track to the coal mine haha just a little chat what not!

[@Foxttellio]

I have been waiting too long for this, i cannot wait to watch it :)

[@Bobble84]

I had a piece of track that was glitched on my run to the coal mine. It air mailed me and my cargo to the freight depot lol

[@thundercrowz]

Hello

[@aj7772]

Man has gone up 2k subs since the last train vid

[@FreedomFluffy]

Issue I have with your videos is the dead audio. When you are not talking its close to silent. I know the game doesn't have ambient noise but I rarely hear engine. Maybe add some copyright free background 'something'. TLDR: Game volume to low, voice audio great, Dead silence

[@KerboOnYT]

Thanks for the feedback. The game definitely needs ambient audio to give more life to the world. I'm not a fan of music in game videos so I usually don't put it in mine

[@kevinStyler6299]

Thank you, how do you know I really do enjoy the longer video? 😅

[@mdsx01]

I've got a N scale 4-8-8-4. Really need to get my tracks set back up.

[@KerboOnYT]

Wow, that's got to be pretty intricate in N scale!

[@mdsx01]

@@KerboOnYT it is. Totally dominates the entire set with how big it is compared to the other locos.

[@framezerogaming8727]

That sure is a big hill... Get out and push?

[@pothoc1]

You say you don't have time for model trains, I'm think sure it can get in the way. You then say you are a computer system engineer and I LAUGHED when you blamed your family for not having time. Man I am in IT and I am always working 🤣

[@terranengineer8877]

Did you say your from St. Louis? I'm a Missourian myself, stumbled across your videos trying to learn this game before I hopefully buy it tomorrow

[@KerboOnYT]

Hello fellow Missourian. I live near St Louis currently but am originally from the middle of nowhere MO :) I hope the videos helped, happy railroading!

[@harrisonrawlinson5650]

How do you build a gradual curve? No matter what I have the curve set to, I just get a straight piece of track with a jagged angle where I start building

[@KerboOnYT]

You need to lay the groundwork/track out in short segments then it will follow the curve you have set

[@MistaJayRo]

I like the adventure :) about an hour is my ideal video length, so Im in luck, thanks for the perseverance!

[@morganbowler-brown4703]

your voice gives me big "opie" from Sons of Anarchy vibes. its smooth. came for the video, stayed for the voice.

[@morganbowler-brown4703]

p.s made it all the way to the end.

[@schuttrostig5729]

Actually i would have liked to see the track from and to smelter, but the intresting parts are cut out. Intrested to see the map where you tracks are layed.

[@KerboOnYT]

If you mean the track down to the smelter itself then check previous episodes where it was built

[@BandanRRChannel]

Huzzah, a fellow N scaler! Yeah, it takes a while to build a model railroad, but at least in this size you don't need much space. 2' x 4' is enough for a basic oval with sidings, and another foot of length gives a figure 8 on a bridge with some spurs.

[@KerboOnYT]

One of these days™

[@FutureRailProductions]

Going to make a suggestion here. Why don't you rebuild that section of track around that rock instead of building that S curve between the rocks? Perhaps with a lesser gradient?

[@KerboOnYT]

That part of the track is a challenge but it also follows the natural grade that has been carved out of the mountain. I like the look of the RR following that natural grade even though it's not ideal. Some people build 1km long bridges everywhere but that's not really my style

[@journeyoframa2631]

i suggest build the track 3 degree at max, its more efficient, but eat much more place, its good for hauling extra long train

[@Mizant69]

WOOOOOOOOOOO CHAMP 22222222222222222

[@leisureshoot]

I made it, but it was a little long. Good video. Good commentary.

[@KerboOnYT]

Thanks for the feedback. I keep most videos around 20-30 minutes but some like longer episodes so I throw them out once in a while

[@a.graham5264]

Can you push trails rather then pull? If so will it go up grades better?

[@KerboOnYT]

You can push but I don't know if it's any better

[@notmuch_23]

Oh, good, I thought the rerail function was only wonky for me because I'm running the game on Linux through Steam Play (a custom WINE fork essentially). Also, I'm getting a geared steamer before I go up the mountain to the mine.

[@buffbb-8364]

Anyone know if this will get ported to Xbox at some point?

[@KerboOnYT]

I haven't heard of any console plans yet

[@Deadshot-cy1vr]

I wish I could get someone to lay all the track on my save I suck

[@KerboOnYT]

Keep practicing, you'll get there. In the next episode I'm laying track to the coal mine so will try to cover a lot of my tips and tricks

[@Dj3ndo]

Loving the series!

[@lakotathierauf2419]

Yes more finally

[@MAHONEY1940]

All the way to the end 3-21-2022

[@EvilRais]

Made it to the end!!!

[@virdog]

I made it to the end!

[@goldfishwings]

Made it to the end!

[@theworsthokage3015]

Would definitely watch you if you do a series on making a layout and what not! Think I mentioned I’m into o gauge HO is tempting maybe one day

[@bartekr5372]

+1 for Devops

[@Partan.]

I did not expect the Origin Story! Nice one :)

[@KerboOnYT]

Hey, someone was paying attention! :)

[@bassoentjens]

Made it💪🏼

[@warrior3456_]

neat

[@yoboi691]

How does it feel to already pass 8k subs?

[@KerboOnYT]

Pretty crazy!

[@charliejohnson6416]

Made it through!

[@everett86]

How do I get more firewood for fuel? Do I take lumber to the sawmill for that? Not sure if I have enough fuel to make it there and back now, haha.

[@KerboOnYT]

You need a firewood depot placed (G menu, facilities) then deliver any kind of wood to the platform that says wood. Logs, cordwood, lumber, or beams should all work but I think cordwood gives the most per carload

[@everett86]

@@KerboOnYT Thank you. I had placed the firewood depot but it ran out of wood. Thanks for the tip. I might have just enough to make it to the sawmill and back!

[@daveb.4383]

Yep made it all the way to the end! Actually was a little shocked you did not use the Mogul today after being so happy you got it in the first place especially with that climb to the iron mine and how hard it was for the little guys!

[@KerboOnYT]

The Champ II has been sitting there looking all neglected so I had to take it for a spin!

[@daveb.4383]

@@KerboOnYT I just bought the game because of you still only have Betsy and just finally managed to connect the logging camp and saw mill together. I think I will skip over the Champ and go for the classic 4-0-4 Wild West Engine for my First new one. Wish me Luck with her.

[@firstnamelastname-nl3qv]

Hi

[@Scott_Diverscott]

Made it to the end was hoping You would be able to get all four of those hoppers up the Slope.. LOL

[@andrewcole8283]

When I accept the discord invite I get a message saying I'm not authorised to see messages?

[@KerboOnYT]

Did you read and react to the #rules-discord?

[@andrewcole8283]

@@KerboOnYT He he, Nope, sorry 😃All sorted now cheers.

[@beast_tex774]

Hey, Kerbo just a heads up when you upload your video it automatically selects Train Simulator as the game you are playing. So you will have to manually choose the game each time you upload. Just so you aren't potentially making some who aren't of some sort of age buy the wrong game.

[@KerboOnYT]

Thanks for the heads up. I've been setting it manually but must have missed some

[@mickeym.9721]

You can save water by reducing the reverser on low grades when at speed

[@aslake3848]

Well Kerbo :-) Been with you since "The Abandoned Forest" Back in spring '18 and on that series I felt that vibe that I feel from you again now, and that were also around in the beginning of C&C, and that exact vibe is what have kept me around, even though I don't play most of the games you do. BUT, the vibe. :-) Love your videos, especially when that vibe is flowing through to me. I'll hang around and enjoy, your enjoyment of this new "toy"

[@KerboOnYT]

Thank you for the kind words and for sticking around! Abandoned Forest was such good fun

[@dustinthe4-4-0generallocom7]

I got a question can you play this game on phone or you can't

[@KerboOnYT]

No, it is PC through Steam only

[@dustinthe4-4-0generallocom7]

Okay I also got another question what is your favorite American steam locomotive my favorite is prr s1

[@ModitRC]

You should do a tutorial on doing a powershell back up. I would be interested.

[@guiltyapollo7918]

You need the compreser and generator

[@KerboOnYT]

Please see this post kzbin.infoUgkxyF3Qp5u_a6rfATe7TL37ibaQ6djOOQtq Also note the UI doesn't sync up properly so even when I have my compressor on to top off the brake reservoir it may show 0

[@guiltyapollo7918]

This is my first time so I posted this before you explained the reason not to in the video

[@joshgambrell4095]

I've been trying to get to the coal mine

[@Mallet10]

Im working on a west route from the Iron Mine but it is challenging.

[@Madhuntr]

Did that yesterday just run at 3% along the mountain side and it will work out perfectly

[@davidmarcuson361]

Another great video.

[@luathas1212]

Interestingly, i have had a bug that started last night of strait track yeeting my cars across the map.

[@mckrunchytoast2469]

SAME. does it happen when you suddenly change the regulator? I do that to add power up a hill and the game doesn't like it

[@luathas1212]

@@mckrunchytoast2469 nope, i set that section for a steady regulator.

[@timetester7896]

Would love this game to come to consist at some point it’s got so much love and attention it would be a great investment and allow the game to grow more

[@KerboOnYT]

I haven't seen any mention of console support so I'm not sure if that's in the plan. Thanks for watching!

[@willitnitro8506]

I swear I heard them mention it in a dev stream. Something along the lines of, "not gonna happen"...

[@0nope078]

Imo's Pizza 👍 / 👎?

[@KerboOnYT]

I'm more of a New York style pizza fan but for St Louis style it's Stefanina's all the way

[@0nope078]

@@KerboOnYT Understandable.