Rain Collection System Fail (250 gallons lost!) | "Burn the Evidence"

[@ModernSelfReliance]

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[@josepimann7384]

What do you do in the winter? Won't it freeze solid?

[@NealD]

Too late now.... but I would have said to bury it and cover the top with maybe a deck. That will stop the light from growing algae and keep the water cooler in the summer.

[@tjzak95]

My favorite youtubers are the ones that show their mistakes and learn from them. You, my friend, will be one of the greats

[@cmosphoto1]

I appreciate the feedback thanks for watching!

[@jaymannewell]

Same, a question for the ages, if you don't do something silly sometimes do you even exist ?

[@glengillis7542]

this could be a busy channel.

[@RedboneUnincorporated]

"will be"?!? 😯

[@scottperry8388]

KZbinrs generally don't show their mistakes and mostly don't follow up on their projects, so thanks for showing what could, and does, go wrong.

[@ModernSelfReliance]

If you keep watching we've got a new vlog coming out soon that something goes very wrong...

[@scottperry8388]

@@ModernSelfReliance I'll keep watching, I'm just catching up in a random order :) You have a great channel, It has a real Red Green Show vibe.

[@rebelred1458]

That's the way I make a siphon too. If you can get the loose end of the hose to seal against the palm of your hand as you pull it out of the tank it's a little easier. I like the new channel, keep it up!

[@cmosphoto1]

Just wasn't happening that day....

[@stuartedgar5921]

@@cmosphoto1 He just wasn't keeping the end SEALED!

[@TheGenFem]

“If you fail, burn all the evidence!”

[@sheilam4964]

Thanks for being honest and showing everyone what no one else would show on YT or say anywhere else.

[@cmosphoto1]

Sheila! Gotta be honest! Sometimes things just don't work! Adapt and move on to the next project! Thanks for watching!

[@JoshuaCBaer]

As you can see by the comments, you may encounter more issues with this. Personally, I would have added a hose tap at the drums drain, plus additional taps for future expansion. Stick that pump up under the building for protection. Get a utility sink out at the outhouse...and prep it for snow. Plus an overflow for the tank to keep out water rot in the future. Nice work still.

[@CyberviewU]

Consider getting water from the creek with poly tubing. Use a catchment box or perforated pipe covered with screen to gravity feed it to a tote just beyond the power house to save $ on wire. A 500 feet roll of half inch poly is $38 at Home Depot. Then you can use an inline turbine to create power 24/7 before and after the water flows to the tote with an overflow back to the creek or pond and a tube to the cabin. Search KZbin for ways to make your own turbines from a DC motor that you have in your stash. The hydro setups are way too expensive. See the Land to House channel for tips. Inline fan blades and waterwheels work on water velocity and are less dependent on pressure like turbine jets.

[@laurenciachew2561]

Oh baby...don't be upset...its just wrong planning and sometimes things happened beyond us...love you❤❤❤ and your hard work...be happy😍😍😍

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching!

[@MiscMitz]

Full stop. You didn't fail. You just learned how not to do it.

[@RussSchoonmaker]

... and so did we👍🏻

[@reneebrown2968]

The metal cage is the strength not only from the top to bottom but for the sides. You can put the boards onto the metal cage then drop the box into the cage then you wont have to worry about punching holes in it

[@staceymarkum3873]

Thank you for posting this. It was funny and informative! Learning from our mistakes is a valuable lesson. 😁👍

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching Stacey!

[@HayWoodsandWetlands]

Thanks for the fail. I always wondered if they'd hold without their cages. Now I know.

[@cmosphoto1]

Took one for the team I guess!

[@ReasontoLiveAdventures]

I definitely appreciate this follow-up video. After watching the last video I was able to use old four inch pvc drain pipes to fashion replacement gutters for our old(over 150 years old) barn here at the farm. I was also thinking of buying one of the water storage containers. I will definitely remember to leave it in the metal cage. Thanks again for the gutter tip.🤙

[@cmosphoto1]

It's crazy how much they charge for totes keep an eye out for cheaper ones.

[@portugalonawingandaprayer473]

Soooooo funny ... I love it ... you are so honest about your ‘mistakes’ ... and kudos for getting straight in there and fix or replace there and then ... well done 😘

[@DBKimber]

I get so much joy from your videos

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching Daniel!

[@bobbyk6585]

Great to see that other innovative guys occasionally mess up in the execution of what seems like a fabulous idea.

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks Bobby!

[@luckypenny312]

Dang!! Lesson learned! Lord knows we learn alot of hard lessons on a homestead!

[@cmosphoto1]

Usually you start with a full cup of luck and a empty of experience and you try to fill the experience cup before you empty the other....

[@carmencunningham1660]

Luck has two folds. Like it says, if it was not for bad luck, you would have any luck. I decided to call it Blessings! Puerto Rico USA

[@cagoodie2shus]

Love it! Hes burning "the evidence" while filming to youtube. I love this guy!

[@cmosphoto1]

It was to reclaim the nails! 😃

[@josannefromin7750]

Honesty is the greatest way u are.......wonderful

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks Josanne!

[@chuckgreen7941]

Wow would not have seen that coming. Looks great now

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching Chuck!

[@Johnnychi123]

Watching your shows makes me want to be an engineer with having to go to school. ;)

[@moeleicester9179]

Thanks for sharing this, I am actually planning to use an IBC and now I know to leave the cage on. Thanks Kev 👍

[@matthewharvey8755]

You gave me a good laugh. The first hose trick works is you simply put your hand over the end and take it off once your ground level.

[@cmosphoto1]

I tried that a couple of times... Wasn't enough pull. I blame the corrugation

[@matthewharvey8755]

@@cmosphoto1 I use an old shop vac hose to drain cattle troughs. There's no way I'm using a bucket to dip water out and sure as hell not sucking a hose lmfao

[@chrisallen9154]

We used to call our siphon hose a Saskatchewan credit card. Back in the day when you could siphon from a car or truck gas tank. Had to get gas for our motorcycles. Usually from the neighbors cars.

[@cmosphoto1]

When gas got really expensive a while back people where using screw drivers and poking holes in the tanks to get gas.. the method you describe is a little less offensive.

[@curban616]

You are human..everyone learns when someone else learns. That what I love about these kind of videos.

[@ModernSelfReliance]

Thanks for watching Cindy!

[@maryfrederickson9400]

Thank you for the lesson because I was going to do the same at my off-grid place. I still will (but with the metal cage around it).

[@sariosolis]

Oh no, I told my husband to follow your technique. Lol. This one with the cage will be much better.

[@cmosphoto1]

Well it technically still held the water.... For how long who knows.. but yes the cage adds structure.

[@AngusKart]

I just watched the first video about this water system recently, and I had a feeling things would go bad when you mentioned removing the wire cage.

[@ModernSelfReliance]

I had to try it !!! lol

[@AngusKart]

@@ModernSelfReliance now that Ive seen the cage... I wouldn't even call it "wire" more like steel bars.

[@BulletproofPastor]

Good lesson for all to see. Thanks for sharing it. Construction screws have tensile strength but poor shear strength. You can double up a floor joist with nails (a nail-lam) but will fail inspection if held together with screws. I would doubt your wood box could have held back the force of 8000# of water even had it been constructed with nails. The weight wasn't vertical and you had a lot of leverage working against you. Glad it went back into the tote frame. Be sure to paint or cover it so the sun doesn't destroy the plastic.

[@cmosphoto1]

Yep... I knew about the lack of shear strength on the screws... Oh well... Lesson learned. That's why they build houses with nails because of the shear strength and they don't have 10 thousand dollar budget for structural screws.

[@BulletproofPastor]

@@cmosphoto1 Yeah but on the farm I can tote an impact driver and pocket full of screws a LOT easier than a compressor, hose, and nail gun. I don't know what i'd do without those handy screws.

[@cmosphoto1]

@@BulletproofPastor have you seen the all in one nail guns...no need for hoses or compressors...

[@BulletproofPastor]

@@cmosphoto1 For brad nailers they work well but frame guns are still working the bugs out. I'm watching but not ready to pull the trigger yet.

[@cmosphoto1]

@@BulletproofPastor lol "pull the trigger". Nice!

[@nickhubbard3671]

Burn the Evidence! Very true... which reminds me...

[@Njennings42]

another great way to start a siphon is to seal one end of your hose, then stick the other end as deep into the water as you can. When you remove the seal from the other end of the hose, the water rushes in to fill the pressurized hose, transitioning to a slight vacuum, creating suction. That's generally what I do! :P

[@cmosphoto1]

I tried and tried... I got er done!

[@Njennings42]

@@cmosphoto1 Haha right on that's what matters! Love your channel!

[@henrikstenlund5385]

Kevin, the tube went ok to the tank. then you block the end with your hand and pull it out. then it will start drainining.

[@cmosphoto1]

Almost got it!

[@nellytalford7119]

Thank you! good to know.. God Bless!

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching Nelly!

[@tuvoca825]

Good to know! If I ever use one for anything, that's important!

[@alexkasacous]

Lesson. Learned.

[@metroplexchl]

Great learning experience.

[@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors]

Well you should have asked me first. I learned that the hard way as well 😅

[@cmosphoto1]

I asked the internet... ;-) live and learn I guess.

[@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors]

@@cmosphoto1 😅👍

[@LB-eh5fz]

I just subscribed ,,,you should have put some of that water in buckets,,containers,, to have until it rains again ,I enjoy your enthusiasm 😀

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching!

[@sharon7181]

Shouldn't you have transferred some of that water into a 50 gallon drum so you had some to use for non drinking ?

[@LB-eh5fz]

I was thinking the same thing ,,,it might not rain for days or weeks,,, that was a waste to not put some water in buckets to use for washing up ,water is precious in his situation ,

[@jamesdevinaspre3182]

Well, lesson learned.

[@CyberviewU]

A tote-ally awesome recovery.

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching!

[@cmosphoto1]

Tote! Lol

[@MIKESWILDWORLD]

Thank you for showing the redo. That’s a lot of rework. Sometimes you just have to do it over. Mike B. MWW.

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching.

[@redhauscreator146]

How cold does it during the winter there? Will you drain your water tote to prevent ice expansion damage? I do so for my rain barrels.

[@gint5414]

Fess up but hide the evidence! Love it!

[@richardsolomon8076]

Nice repair Kevin, lesson learnt 😀 I watch your adds and have to adjust volume on them, is there anyway to turn them down or your volume up so they balance out? Looking forward to the next one 👍

[@cmosphoto1]

I'll have to ask if the volume can be balanced or turned down...

[@purplegeckocraftscrissietu9296]

Oh bless you .. at least it should work now x

[@cmosphoto1]

All safe and sound in the cage!

[@jasonbabila6006]

You gotta seal the end of the hose with your hand so the water won't back out of the hose when you pull the end out.

[@gedreillyhomestead6926]

You forgot to add the Woodobo! 😂

[@cmosphoto1]

Mmmmmm spice water.

[@truthforearth6641]

Thanks for showing that I thought that may happen

[@cmosphoto1]

All is well that ends well..

[@bmxshippy]

In order to start a Syphon you have to hold your hand over the end as you pull it out.

[@cmosphoto1]

I tried that... Got frustrated...

[@nicolehanshaw2783]

Or you could cover with a tarp any thing to keep the light out but to a filter would help with the water cleaner coming in

[@cmosphoto1]

A tarp might be the easiest solution..

[@nicolehanshaw2783]

@@cmosphoto1 we do add a cap of bleach to ours and ever other few month a cup of salt for a softner

[@cmosphoto1]

@@nicolehanshaw2783 that was my plan too... If the tote didn't decide to explode.

[@nicolehanshaw2783]

@@cmosphoto1 lol you live and learn im hoping to see a out door kitchen in the future we are moving in a few move month and thats the first thing on my list im really glad to see everything coming together for you with this camp

[@rayleeeastlick3989]

Klamath falls Oregon is listening and watching

[@Jeremy_936]

To siphon the water..... what if you insert the hose, then cover the opening with your hand, making a tight seal, and then yank it out. It should work in the same way as a drinking straw, when you put your finger over the opening and it holds the soda or iced tea while you lift it to your mouth 😆.... hope that makes sense!

[@cmosphoto1]

It does.. I think the corrugation had something to with the lack of success.

[@thebiglebowski9849]

Here is an idea...put the pipe all the way down, cover the end so the water won’t run back into the container...and pull

[@deborrastrom8559]

I like the Cussing woodsman for your new name....Much mistakes to do it over. lol Making my day...Bwahh haha. lol ! All kidding aside you show people HOW to mg ajh e mistakes gracefully in humor plus the actual lesson or two & burning the evidence.

[@davidreid8353]

Great video Kevin, I like how you admitted the fail and learned from it. And yes, if you hadn’t made the video there wouldn’t be any evidence!! lol

[@cmosphoto1]

Wait what... I burned the evidence!

[@surfersurfer8824]

hi Kevin, awesome, honest video!!i guess at looking at that huge container, it was bound to happen? idk, but nice try, and nice fix my friend, and as I read thru the comments, it seems we have a few more future problems that might need to be addressed? but what do i know...NOTHING!!! thats why i watch You!! lol keep up the good work, and be safe, thank you, bill

[@cmosphoto1]

It's constantly evolving! Thanks for watching!

[@reneebrown2968]

The weight of the water will pull most of the wrinkles out of that tub.

[@YourLocalIceMan]

Today on Modern Self Reliance we build a stream.

[@ModernSelfReliance]

LMAO

[@Snowzeus]

Full Stop 🛑. Oh the erosion 😂 This was just a test right😁

[@cmosphoto1]

Yes.. just a test! Fail quickly and move on.

[@edwardseth1230]

lift up the water system with the cage.. at least 7.5 feet..the water is collected and goes in the tank that way.. its earth fed going into the sink and you can make a shower with gravel flooring..underneith it with wood siding.

[@cmosphoto1]

Sounds dangerous having 2200lbs above you... But I do like the gravity fed option.

[@suemcfarlane4199]

A good idea is to put some insect mesh on top of the the tote inlet hole to keep down the mosquitoes population

[@shelvieparker]

great video

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheMetalRedneck]

Burning the evidence while filming lol. I like it.

[@blueclothes1]

Is there any concern the water turning into a huge block of ice in February? And if it freezes, will the plastic tank account for expansion?

[@cmosphoto1]

Yes, and it will be drained in the fall.

[@living6a916]

Question for ya. How did the water inside look? Was I pretty clear ? How long was it in thee ? By he way great job with your videos.

[@cmosphoto1]

It was pretty clear. Minus the debris that got in from the trough some pre-filtering would help that. But this water was never intended for drinking.

[@georgewhitehouse8630]

If you hold the air from getting into the hose it works better for creating the siphon

[@andreewert1142]

also, insulate the new shelter or it will freeze this winter and it will be game over....consider putting water basin and crate it in an insulated cabin that stays above freezing....dress it up with shakes ..make it look cute, put the inverter in it too..solar panels on top possibly or hydro-power propeller also.

[@cmosphoto1]

Gets down to minus 30 around here. No amount of insulation is gonna keep that bad boy from freezing.

[@andreewert1142]

@@cmosphoto1 It should not impede Normal Brain Function..hey, I am in Shawinigan..I feel your Pain..it is probably even colder here at 1000 metres above Sea Level where I am..

[@andreewert1142]

@@cmosphoto1 another reason to design things accordingly..I listen to this Missouri Quaker that has a homestead ..and he explained it well..he had all his water recovery, like your bust-up in Winter,..then he wised up and moved them into his Shed..build a combination Woodshed, Barn, Workshop, Garbage Disposal- toilet, water storage, ..it could be built like a small Earthship --buried but with a solarium on the open end..maybe use the culvert material as a round roof -half-moon ..have three adjoining and recover the water with gutters that run into the water tank..with lumber as walls..covered by a water membrane..then burry it....also grow food in solarium..it acts as an antifreeze buffer..put a door between solarium and storage shed underground..for walls, you could also use cob ..bags of earth..stacked or recycled tires, rammed with earth if you build 20 feet long or bigger..if you are playful, build a tower to put your storage tanks and have gravity water -energy storage..pump water in the day using solar..shower at night, use gravity..but insulate the tower and conduits..best is to put all the water lines inside a 4 inch ABS Pipe..seal the ends with foam..hope for the best..bury it or leave it easily accessible for inspection ..maybe put hey around it..in a trench that can be opened ...alternative is to build the shednext to the pond, put in 3 -45 gallon tanks to process the water from the pond..first tank is fine sand..overflow goes to a tank with activated charcoal and fine sand. thirds tank is your water for use..it is the minimalist system..i can send you the link of a guy in myanmar-burma that explains it well in english

[@cmosphoto1]

@@andreewert1142 sounds colder.

[@cmosphoto1]

@@andreewert1142 thank you for this. If you could send that link it would be great.

[@spthibault]

How are you accessing it to keep algea and such from tainting the water? Chlorine tabs?

[@gloriadelacruz6351]

Does your collection drum have a drainage outlet at the bottom?

[@cmosphoto1]

Yes it has a bypass at the pump.

[@JohnMartinez-sm1sk]

Kevin you have great ideas, but the smoker needs more work. It was the juices from that huge piece of meat that caused the fire maybe there should be a catch pan with a tube to syphon the grease and juices away from the smoker and and into a jar to catch the juices, it would make it easier to do gravy while the meat is still smoking. That meat did have a real good smoke ring lol. Maybe your next one will be better. Cheers buddy.

[@ModernSelfReliance]

Version #2 is gonna be better.

[@EastonmadeWoodSplitters]

That sucks. Would have thought it would be fine without the cage.

[@cmosphoto1]

Well now you know!!! Gonna need another cage for firewood!!!

[@cmosphoto1]

Felt like that old man in the heritage commerical complaining about using his peach baskets for basketball..

[@EastonmadeWoodSplitters]

@@cmosphoto1 lol I know exactly the commercial your talking about. I have a bunch of the bladders kciking around. ..dont know what I'm gonna do with them. The totes do work nice for firewood

[@cmosphoto1]

@@EastonmadeWoodSplitters I was thinking of using the bladders as a garbage bin.. just cutting it on the middle and hinging it done.

[@EastonmadeWoodSplitters]

@@cmosphoto1 that would work wel

[@autiemuse]

IBC Newbie question - where/what are some of the best sources for safe, food/water-grade IBC containers? We are in the Deep South, US. Thanks!

[@cmosphoto1]

Marketplace on facebook seems to have them listed all the time... Also Craigslist

[@troybassett3123]

Have you considered burying it? It would hold the sides in and add geothermal properties to it.

[@rrios1173]

Hold your hand tight over the end and cause the water in hose to not drain back while you pull it out

[@stumpy1495]

Put the whole pipe in the water, then put your hand over to seal the end while you pull it out. You draw a pipe full of water out and it siphons the rest out.

[@50shadesofpumpernickel41]

Do you need a metal cage for fire wood I have a few of these on the far here.

[@ModernSelfReliance]

I could always use more, look me up on instagram wood_chucker_987

[@50shadesofpumpernickel41]

Ok my Instagram is 3472.jason I followed you so I could send you a message

[@Joel-pg9sm]

Man I would've drank all that water.

[@kulina571]

So you must be pretty stoned :)

[@galdito1966]

Burned the evidence 😂 I’m curious do you need to treat the water? and what about adding an outdoor shower ????

[@cmosphoto1]

Gotta get my hot water sorted before I do an outdoor shower... The hot water was sort of shelved when I lost all my water.

[@Chris_at_Home]

I have two on those totes without the cage that I have sitting plywood covered blue board in an enclosed area under our cabin. We have to have anything plastic in an enclosed area because those bear pests like to bite and claw anything plastic including gas cans. I haven’t had any problems with our totes exploding after about 6 years. Yeah they look funny but they work great.

[@grytlandsferga]

what do you do with your water system in the winter when it freezes ?

[@jordantrottier3882]

Make sure you annotate and link this video to your previous video so no one copies your mistake. Still an awesome system, once you get the kinks out. .

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching Jordan .

[@dogleg6669]

Live and learn. Now we know lol. Full stop!

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks James!

[@marcgenest]

Two step forward for man is one giant leap backwards for my man. ha ha , so yeah "didn't figure" happens when we don't figure .. hindsight being 20/20 and experience fed right upside your head. lol 😂 I think you could have fixed the wood box, Corner brackets , or strapping coulda worked .. like a girdle. lol

[@cmosphoto1]

And giant ratchet straps.. I thought about it.. then I thought nah... Wire cage!

[@marcgenest]

@@cmosphoto1 yeah ...the wiser decision, proud of you for being a man by admitting it. good on you man ... meh, no big deal. ships happens ...lol

[@selador11]

You needed to get YOUR end of the hose, under the water... Then cover it. Then pull it out, still covered. Get it to ground level, then uncover it.

[@glengillis7542]

Opps. Well it made a video. Good one

[@cmosphoto1]

Look at the bright always!

[@dennisschickling5759]

Great Video. What did you learn. When you 1st don't succeed try try again. #STAYSAFE "LET IT RAIN" 🌧 🌧

[@cmosphoto1]

Dennis! Indeed let it rain...wanted to a hot water system but I need water for that!

[@Bullfrogerwytsch]

You should build a water tower so you get better pressure.

[@timadams2923]

ground contact pressure treated for platform , not a pallet

[@robertreynolds9228]

Yep

[@friedrichwilhelmvonsteuben7952]

How do you keep the water from stagnating? And do you drain it in the winter?

[@ModernSelfReliance]

Drain in the winter.

[@mikeyjames]

Outdoor shower coming soon ?

[@cmosphoto1]

Once I collect enough water again...

[@truthforearth6641]

Rapid and black plastic so it can't get light it will stay clean longer

[@randallgruetzmacher8498]

Good job at least we got a good laugh.

[@cmosphoto1]

Some good came of it.

[@kimseger5794]

laughing with not at ,,Blessing in disguises cleaner water and you burnt the evidence keep on keeping on

[@cmosphoto1]

It was sort of funny... Live and learn!

[@kimseger5794]

@@cmosphoto1 well u said marshmallow got lucky with the nails

[@realliving9253]

Bury it so it doesn't freeze up in the winter.

[@cmosphoto1]

That's not a bad idea. Take care of what it looks like too...

[@matthewwarfield4302]

You wouldn't need the cage either!

[@Skater51]

Great video!! Do you add chlorine to kill the bacteria etc?

[@ModernSelfReliance]

bleach but yes.

[@pedro_8240]

You pull the hose really fast or instead of all that effort, you just use the palm of your hand to plug the end and pull it out normally.

[@springgoodhart8676]

AW MAN! Live and learn! Glad you learned it so I don't! ;)

[@cmosphoto1]

Thanks for watching Spring!

[@springgoodhart8676]

@@cmosphoto1 @modern self reliance - Keep em coming, I'll keep watching! I love the new channel and it's awesome how big it is already! You know I've been a fan of you and your brother (your little girl too) for a long time! Keep up the great work!