Rain Fuel Generator from Conductive ink

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

awesome improvement mate! love it - nice job and thanks for sharing

[@robertpoynton9923]

This would be easy to get a vynal cutting machine to cut a stencil then use the ink then peel off the stencil. Love that 2 of my favorite youtubers are collaborating. 👍

[@cayrex]

@@robertpoynton9923 😊😘😅

[@oudotcom]

well done guys, you rock ! 😃👍🏻❤️

[@davidhilton7780]

Is the conductive ink dia-magnetic? Aluminum is para-magnetic, so is using two different conductors allowing more electrons to move within

[@codedesigns9284]

Excellent! Love healthy competition. Keep up the great work both of you!

[@cayrex]

About the size of the rain cell and comparison between carbon and aluminium version: kzbin.infoUgkx1StjNmAzfb0A70iginJC_uormLC2krM3 Water flow speed test: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6Gmhn-jerGcetU

[@yusufoflaz3511]

What is the black band on PTFE and aluminum? I would be happy if you answer.

[@Infinion]

Attention at 3:47. No droplet motion, just water forming a conductive bridge between the electrodes. I wanted to test this for myself so I got some aluminum foil and a carbon electrode and submerged them in a 100mL beaker of tap water and got a 0.8V cell voltage. A water droplet on a small area of electrode / active material might explain the low cell voltage, what do you think? Are the flowing water droplets just switching an electrochemial cell on/off between the conductive ink and the aluminum electrodes? Edit : After setting up the same experiment with aluminum, PTFE, and aluminum , I realized this is actually a capacitive effect

[@Ma_X64]

Exactly!

[@kennedy67951]

Freaking Awesome Mate. I did view Roberts Video of this Circuit. Thanks for sharing.

[@cayrex]

Yes I know 🤩 I get 700mV if the water drops hit the cell faster

[@hommerdalor6301]

Nice, but why not ink on the ptfe also, instead of alu?

[@cayrex]

Because, making some contact to PTFE with aluminium tape was faster.

[@hommerdalor6301]

@@cayrex 😅🤣😂

[@newmonengineering]

I am interested in knowing how the size of the plates effect current and voltage. I.e. bigger plates more capacitance maybe? But I'm sure there is a point that it stops being effective.

[@woodlandsdel]

Can you please repeat the test with two droppers? Curious what the results would be.

[@dogodogo5891]

i followed you since some hundred you are truly hidden gem on youtube!

[@cayrex]

Thank you

[@robertyoung7379]

Hi. Does this work with any type of water. Tap, rain, recycled. Can you reuse the water droplets to drop on another generator. Thanks. Fur the video. Watched it several times now. Rob

[@eeezygoing]

Oh you beated Robert Smith Murray ??? You blow him out of the water lol You have won so well ! Well done !!

[@DarrenMcNicol]

What about semi submerging this device in a flowing stream, would that not then provide a constant power output?

[@BobSmith-vq3uo]

Do you think the dissimilarity between the aluminium and conductive ink causes a greater potential difference? I'm wondering if two different non-ferrous metals (e.g., aluminum and copper) might accomplish the same thing.

[@cayrex]

Maybe,... I am not sure. Yes try copper and aluminium

[@davidhilton7780]

Aluminium and capper works extremely well!

[@notme-ts3gt]

I am a student and we have a research project and this vids inspired me to explore it, tho have a question. If ever I don't have both the aluminum tape and conductive ink? Does copper tape also applicable? Also If I would ever put a wire on it which is the aluminum tape? How can I wire it? I really need help for our research project 😭 thank you in advance ♡

[@peterlang777]

in Korea they use titanium nitride nanosheets and ainiline for water batteries

[@cayrex]

Aaaaaa you are that guy 🤔. Someone told me about you and your channel. But I was unable to find you with youtube search

[@peterlang777]

@@cayrex youtube shadow bans alot. my channel got hit when strategic elements "invented" my technology

[@SimonBurley]

If you use tap water on this, then does the water remain drinkable?

[@notme-ts3gt]

Does this device create a power output in DC?

[@bjl1000]

I think it's great, but how do you keep the material from eroding from the rain?

[@cayrex]

Using other type of electrodes, to make contact with PTFE film. Coating the exposed surface of the contact

[@rahmataliee3825]

How we can design it for myself Experience. Like which components I need and how I can connect the components. Thanks

[@yusufoflaz3511]

If you have information about this subject, could you please share it with me?

[@muthiah9315]

is that a piece of wood that u used to wrap it by aluminium foil?

[@cayrex]

Yes

[@muthiah9315]

How to store electric city generated from this generator , is there any specific battery for it ?

[@Buzzhumma]

Hi there buddy . How is your rain fuel generator coming along ? I think it will be the first project I get to use the ink on that I made ! Just got to get a few things cleared away and let the testing begin . Have you any suggestions on what characteristics the ink should have besides conductive ? I am yet to research the papers on how this concept works but I have a feeling it's along the lines of static?

[@angelusmendez5084]

Awesome! 👏

[@cayrex]

🤌

[@you-know-who.]

Impressive mate you should try dropping the water from a greater hight and also try holding the device at 45° from the water droplets. I have been told that it as the droplet expands that it releases it's charge

[@cayrex]

Good suggested.

[@garywillis5790]

So interesting! Thanks 👍

[@cayrex]

🤌👍

[@marinawatson6041]

That's brilliant love it well done amazing.

[@karlmyers6518]

Hi mate, my brain went straight to conductive inks and I left a message on robs channel. The gains from the ink seemed to be amazing. Is it robs ink? I have some and will hopefully try this out tomorrow if I get time with my own acrylic ink

[@cayrex]

The ink what I use is my own. And yes,... looks really interesting. When I see that rain cell which Robert did, I knew that I need to make by my self. Next logical step was to use the conductive ink.

[@bjl1000]

What happens if the drips are too fast? Or in a stream?

[@cayrex]

@@bjl1000 faster is the water flow higher is current.

[@William_Hada]

I like your variation on RMS's TENG device very much! But, to be fair, the area of aluminum foil exposed on your first device was way smaller in area than the conductive ink painted second one. Unless the exposed contact surfaces have the same surface area one cannot say than one is superior to the other device.

[@cayrex]

420mV I get with almost half smaller cell that was the cell with aluminium.

[@omsingharjit]

Oh it's called rms !!

[@cayrex]

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[@moadpih4959]

How do you prepare lithium hexafluoride and ethylene carbonate at home? Thank you. Greetings to you

[@cayrex]

You buy 1M LiPF6 solution. If you can get LiPF6 and EC then you can also get solution of LiPF6

[@omsingharjit]

It's interesting , how it works what it called .is it Pizo based

[@sidishere5278]

Triboelectric effect

[@cayrex]

@@sidishere5278 👍

[@paulclark4147]

Would copper foil tape work?

[@TheBaconWizard]

yes. not better, just the same.

[@cayrex]

@@TheBaconWizard nice

[@timyorke9758]

Did you measure the current generated by these voltages, to provide the power output?

[@cayrex]

Yes,.... its in micro amps range

[@timyorke9758]

@@cayrex okay, thanks. So I guess that places power output in the realm of nW/μW and so to produce 1W this would need scaling up by around 100,000,000%?

[@cayrex]

@@timyorke9758 yea,.... NANOgenerator

[@Luapnampahc]

Could you put several generators together, say 30 in a panel, and then collect in series the current? And then test panels with rain, to see if power collected works with generators in series?

[@cayrex]

I am waiting for the rain 😊☔💧🌧

[@sorushflummi411]

Hi :) Thank You for the Idea I have a Question: Does the Water Drop loose Charge? What I mean, can the same Drop be used multiple Times, like having a zigzag Slide/angled Stairs with a few of these Generators over each Other using the same Drop for generating. Does it have minimal Height to regenate Charge or not? With kind Regards

[@cayrex]

Hey! First,... I need to say that I am quite new in that field of generators. But yes I use that water over and over again on the same generator. I try to use two generators in series with the same water flow (not drops) and it didn't work so good. I dont know about the minimal Height.

[@renatopatrcevic4823]

@@cayrex it would be interesting seeing this generator in action in some real rain! Also playing with scaling down this generator(size and distance of the al. contact to the al or conductive ink). Can a multiple al.contacts be used on the same generator?

[@TheBaconWizard]

Very nice!!

[@Killianwsh]

Very Interesting! May I suggest you look into the works of Victor Schauberger, who documented that water, spun in a vortex, generated electricity & also Lord Kelvin's water dropper spark machine. I believe that your discovery of increased electrical generation with your conductive ink, if combined with Schauberger's work, might yield some even more amazing results!

[@craigglewis]

Viktor Schauberger - Comprehend and Copy Nature (Documentary of 2008) kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4mzo399iqyNqdk

[@cayrex]

@@craigglewis nice 😊

[@craigglewis]

Some where U have a 3d model stl file to print one of the water turbines. I will have to look them up since I have access to a few 3d printers now :) Do you have a 3dp?

[@cayrex]

@@craigglewis kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ2zi6lrjNZqkKs 🤗

[@Buzzhumma]

Hmmm yeah i am yet to play with this concept cos to many projects going on😂 but this seems like one of the very important ones to investigate and develop. Imagine 2022 it n the desert and capturing water from the nighttime atmosphere and then creating power for your oasis so the camels can have a rests from drilling for oil . Ahhh what a dream.

[@cayrex]

Hahahahaha camels drilling for oil 🤣😂

[@rayg436]

thanks for sharing with all of use

[@cayrex]

No problem 😉

[@bjl1000]

So do you copy from Robert or does he copy from you?

[@cayrex]

The orginal idea comes from Hong Kong. Then Robert make his version and instead of using ITO to make surface conductive, he uses aluminium. Then I like Roberts idea and I make my version which instead of using aluminium I use conductive ink. So in the end,.... I will say that is the evolution of the rain cell.

[@bjl1000]

Same as " lord kelvins thunderstorm"

[@davidhilton7780]

In one essence, yes...

[@StrategyYouDidntKnow]

be interesting to try this on a blown up balloon too

[@cayrex]

🤯🤭

[@Ma_X64]

Doing it with conductive ink (carbon based obviously) you created a galvanic pair so your additional voltage isn't from the effect that original device has but from the anodic dissolution of aluminum. So this is rather a bad idea.

[@cayrex]

Correct. A uninsulated carbon surface on the device will make a reaction and will produce a voltage in the range of 1 to 1.3 volts. A isolated carbon surface with a layer of PVB create the voltage which is shown in the video.

[@Ma_X64]

@@cayrex Do you using isolated carbon layer?

[@StrategyYouDidntKnow]

try floral oasis

[@ovidius2000]

bigerCapacityColectsMoreCharge

[@cayrex]

Look at this: kzbin.infoUgkx1StjNmAzfb0A70iginJC_uormLC2krM3

[@jeffw527]

I know you have condivrink