I for one would love to hear your theories, even if they are hard to explain. I think one of the "keys" to understanding Petscop is unconventional thinking, like Paul pretending the door was open. Just a half-formed thought. Thanks for the vid.
@elconijo5 жыл бұрын
Another important aspect- communication. So many of the community’s “findings” came about by someone putting forth a half-figured out theory and the rest of us putting the other pieces together.
@emeraldcymophane74615 жыл бұрын
Thoughts about Rainer, Wavey and identity: Knowing what we know about Petscop it clearly enjoys words and wordplay a lot, which made me think about the title Rainer very carefully. Rainer is just a name, but in English it can be split, sort of like 'miller' or 'carpenter' to mean 'one who rains'. Setting aside for the moment that Rainer most consistently seems to be the dour voice raining on his family's parade, we know another character who 'rains' - Wavey. Wavey is a pet, one of the few with a human face, and the only one directly attached to - and apparently manipulating the actions of - another pet, Randice. He's also a two-faced creature, looking at the Wavey sprite you can place your thumb over one half of him and see a cheerful smile, the other half you'll see a nervous grimace. Wavey himself is described as never being the same person for more than a few seconds, this may be what he looks like mid-transition, or else he may actually be displaying several faces at once, similar to how Rainer can seemingly jump straight from his usual attitude to harsh rambling accusations of others and of himself within the same few text boxes. Rainer, incidentally, inhabits a white TOOL - and Wavey's default sprite is almost entirely white. Interestingly, if this connection is true, the maker of Petscop described himself as 'afraid of everything' and particularly terrified of 'freezing' into one single state. If his mood swings are medical or spiritual he doesn't seem concerned about them and seems worried he might lose them. Wavey was also one of the first sprites made for the game, possibly before public testing. In his water form all the way back then he seems significantly less concerned, as though something changed for the 'real' Wavey in that time, and his sprite was edited to reflect that. Rainer is also pronounced the same as 'one who reigns' - as in, the apparent ruler of Petscop, as a bonus. No idea how much basis this has in reality, it's just something I've been thinking about for a while and wanted to share. Counterthoughts are welcome!
@arlocke5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's clever! I love that.
@bookworm_of_heaven5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is actually - this is actually really good. Makes sense. In a way
@odarter98005 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've kinda been thinking along those lines too. It makes me wonder, though... Why was it the only representation of Wavey is in water form for the artwork? It's just an "extra", sure. But, I wondered if this was supposed to indicate that Wavey was capable of jumping out of the bucket afterward. But, I'm not sure why that would be. Like, what purpose would that fulfill really? Is it a symbol for some deeper meaning? And if Wavey has a "water form"; why wouldn't he be seen that way in the Pets menu after being captured? It just seems strange to think it's just there for seemingly no reason. Like with Hudson. Food for thought, I guess.
@helloofthebeach5 жыл бұрын
For real tho, Rainer's writing style is one of my favorite things about Petscop
@hackerdackers88325 жыл бұрын
great stuff. this isn't bad at all and you shouldn't feel pressured to make ultra mega high quality grid analysis videos everytime you upload. i'm totally down for more videos like this, you've definitely provided me with some food for thought.
@Lt_Gonzo4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. Lina's tombstone implies she was hit by a car. Knowing that Paul's sprite was hit by an orange car, one presumably belonging to Marvin, we can guess Lina was accidentally hit by a car driven by Marvin with his future wife in the car with him. We tend to assume she was killed on impact. But hearing Rainer read that line again... I think that poor little girl may have survived. And I think Rainer ended her suffering. It's possible Marvin panicked and hid Lina's body in the windmill, thinking she was dead. But she may have woken up sometime later in excruciating pain, hobbling out of that dark windmill. When Rainer caught sight of her (perhaps on his way to end his own life), he did the only thing he thought was right. No more bullets. Rainer is a messed up character. This event, along with the death of his brother and the abuse of his cousin, no doubt sent him overboard, and thus sent him into a downward spiral of hunting Marvin, the only person who could truly give him closure.
@hackerdackers88322 жыл бұрын
I like this theory, but the ages don't really match up. Lina was killed when she was 9, in 1977. Unless Rainer is significiantly older than presumed. But it just doesn't seem to fit unless you do some major leaps.
@perdly4209 ай бұрын
this is mike
@nr5k15 жыл бұрын
honestly, with him saying his goodbyes in the description, losing his newmaker title, and telling belle he’s most likely gone in the messages to her,, he probably killed himself.
@tizza9634 жыл бұрын
I come back and watch these videos sometimes just to try and re capture some of that petscop magic...much love thanks for all the hard work :)
@TheShadowWolfie5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your technical analysis of the webseries, both mechanical and grammatical. It's something we really needed.
@bluetailtailfly5 жыл бұрын
Isnt it incredible how straightforward we all thought this series would be early on? Still, you always manage to make incredible connections in your videos that I never noticed before, like the parallel between Paul's comment about ghosts/AIs "coming out" and "I'll come out now, keep playing". I've also wondered if that comment from Paul foreshadows the P2 to Talk function we see later on (never with Paul's audible acknowledgment) and if so, if that's the series' way of telling us there is indeed an entity in the game like he doubted.
@alexinf57655 жыл бұрын
I think Rainer is Daniel, the cousin of Care. And it also makes sense, too. In Petscop 21 I think it was (not sure), Paul shows some recordings from the sound test menu. One of them is from mike, and after getting an easter egg, a textbox shows up. "An easter egg was actually inside Daniel's game??" Or something like that. I think this actually tells the whole thing, but if you're still not convinced, go to Petscop 24, where Anna thanks Mike's brother (Daniel) for letting him play games and get famous. This would actually also explain why Rainer loves Mike so much. He was his little brother.
@evanbarrett96815 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video as usual! Personally, I think that "I'm back" is referring to 1) Rainer is back from searching for Michael and (now that we've seen the last few episodes) 2) back from gravedigging
@YourNewRival5 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t prepared for that creampie joke hahaha
@russelldietz50695 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading, I've watched everything you've done, and was very excited to see that you had a nice long video for me to digest. I really appreciate the time and effort you take to make this kind of analytical content. As for jumping off points: 1: Numbers are a consistent theme throughout Petscop, specifically the numbers 3 and 7 do you have any points regarding this? 2: I have yet to see a cohesive analysis on the music of Petscop, and I think we can all agree, music is a critical theme in the series. Thanks for everything you do!
@narayanbandodker54825 жыл бұрын
Some thoughts: - If Rainer shot the Windmill Girl (aka Lina), then why does he ask Marvin to find her in P20? Also, this incident happened in 1977, so Rainer and Marvin were probably very young (Teenagers maybe) - What's the BGM from 0:20 ? - EDIT: Found it myself: Mogwai - Tracy - 14:00 - Colon, not Semicolon :) (enter description here)
@sockmuppet5685 жыл бұрын
It's Mogwai - Cody
@lovefoolbythecardigans5 жыл бұрын
do you know what the music at the beginning of the video is?
@narayanbandodker54825 жыл бұрын
@@lovefoolbythecardigans I think it is GiRL World of School from Petscop
@jovanstulic5 жыл бұрын
Rainer wanted to find her dead body (possibly).
@mayhemical4 жыл бұрын
_ _ A bird. I think I forgot what birds look like.
@ericopenscards8192 жыл бұрын
Occam's razor would help a lot here I think
@rickyw8675 жыл бұрын
loving the new format sock! facecam when?
@probablyjustsnails5 жыл бұрын
I love you, Newmaker, please don't stop making videos but take your time and take care of yourself always ;U;
@TakeV3 жыл бұрын
2 years later, I always think of Wavey when I hear Rainer. Like, very on the nose naming there. If we are to make that connection, your idea of Rainer changing through the plot jives with Wavey's description.
@marbledipity2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm a moron but im having huge trouble understanding the sentence "he had been missing since June 1997 and 2000." I can't wrap my head around what that means at all.
@majinlilkek43672 жыл бұрын
yeah i dont get that either Same with "Rainer" gave this gift to us on Christmas 1997 and 2000.
@VuldEdone5 жыл бұрын
1. Pieces By now we know pretty much every location in Petscop. The only exception being Floor1 of the School. We can tell where the pieces are, nearly room by room. So we should be able to deduce exactly where Pall has been before reaching the school (the whole "does Pall=Paul" question), but also where Tiara could have found 500 pieces. I say that because, again, (a) P9's DEMO stole 16 pieces from Paul and (b) Tiara, starting at 0 piece in Quitter's room, shouldn't be able, like Paul, to return to Even Care. That's ~52 pieces (from memory) she can't access anymore. So here is your first puzzle. Where are the pieces and where does each player find his/hers. 2. Marvin Basically a continuation on your remarks concerning Marvin. Half of it is double-checking his speed for every scene he appears in (for some it should be impossible to say) and the other half is, after we have the list of all the times he runs fast and all the times he runs at normal speed, finding a pattern between those two states to explain it. 3. Rebirthing We have basically seen a rebirthing been done, and we're left with two eggs in a locker. Conversely, we have a whole list of states a character can be in in Petscop. A grave (Mike), a dialog box (Anna), etc. The question becomes, what states do you go through when rebirthing? Three key remarks about that puzzle: (a) you need to be a catchable sprite to be put in the machine, (b) we assume Tiara went through a rebirthing and (c) you end up as an egg after being rebirthed. I think it is impossible to map the right combination of states, but offering a few most probable ones would probably go a long way to actually understanding rebirthing. Or just being able to actually give that exhaustive list of states, because there are actually quite a few. Those are the ones I would focus on, if I had the time.
@UsernameDoesntCare5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back. Petscop 22 to 24 came out. Let's see what happens next.
@CasualTS Жыл бұрын
I suspect Newmaker may be the title given to the person in charge of rebirthing in this game. As to how this title passes on though is anyone's guess. Think about the fact that Marvin seems to want the rebirthing process with Care to happen very desperately, yet he requires Paul to find the pieces and to play the Needles Piano. Of course this could be because Marvin doesn't know how to play the piano and is too lazy to get the pieces himself. Or it could be because Paul is the designated "Newmaker" so he has to do it. We know Rainer attempted to perform the rebirthing of Belle into Tiara (as he describes in Petscop 12 when Belle is freed from the Quitter's Room), so Rainer being the Newmaker at that time makes sense.
@odarter98005 жыл бұрын
Did the Playstation have online features? Is it actually possible that the real reason this game is a "growing organism" is because Rainer, or a collection of different players, like Marvin, have been slowly building the game over the years using "developer tools" like the Texture Editor?
@glitchyglitchy39255 жыл бұрын
All this time and only just because of this video did I put together that Rainer passed his "Newmaker" title onto Paul.
@dudeforrealsies10235 жыл бұрын
ABOUT THE DASHES, in Spanish, dialogue is written similar to how lists are in English: -What do you want? -asked the lady -Only a tiny glass of water -and, leaning, he added- not much to ask, is it? Not sure is relevant (This may be only a list) but those are my two cents
@arlocke5 жыл бұрын
I get what you're trying to explain, but this is not a correct example or explanation. The term for the symbol - is "em-dash" (not a hyphen) and it is used in Spanish to separate speakers in a dialog. There is no "asked the lady" - at that point, you'd just right the phrase with quotation marks "" as in English or with angled marks «». With the em-dash - you just write what they say, no descriptor. - ¿Cómo estás? - Muy bien, gracias. - Yo necesito unos pantalones. It's meant to be used with the innate context of knowing who says what, similar to a script. So, if we applied this concept to Toneth's description, it could be read similarly to a dialog. Not sure how much sense that would make, though.
@dudeforrealsies10235 жыл бұрын
@@arlocke Damn, I'm a native speaker but haven't read Spanish prose in way too long. Thanks for the correction.
@terminal-vl3rj5 жыл бұрын
also please do a video on the "family"!
@Jojokesuke5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I can't wait to see the follow up you do
@qotice5 жыл бұрын
What if Rainer first made Petscop with Anna and Marvin? Anna could be some of the text box messages and so could Rainer. How could Rainer have known the dialogue that happened at Care’s birthday party? That part could have been written by Anna. The section in Care A’s description where the text box seems interrupted by Rainer, the first half could have been written by Anna too.
@qotice5 жыл бұрын
Anna could have shot the Lina in the windmill with the camera she had when she took the two pictures as well. The text boxes could be from both Anna and Rainer
@codaboi138 Жыл бұрын
Based mogwai enjoyer
@Dr_Pickle2 жыл бұрын
12:50 Kind of a leap. I doubt Michael, who isn't that smart of a kid, can type up or even say all of that.
@terminal-vl3rj5 жыл бұрын
if rainer = white tool, did rainer kill lina?
@rabbitcrime40865 жыл бұрын
king ur brain is gigantic thank you
@qurn5 жыл бұрын
Rainer is Mike's older brother, I cant remember his name. Good video though
@jadendafinger5 жыл бұрын
qurn wasnt it Danial
@qurn5 жыл бұрын
@@jadendafinger yes, Daniel, the Daniel that went missing and then came back.
@jadendafinger4 жыл бұрын
@@qurn damn, It’s already been a year
@deletedTestimony5 жыл бұрын
I have some jumping off points for you if you're interested.
@arlocke5 жыл бұрын
Yo, just write them out.
@deletedTestimony5 жыл бұрын
@@arlocke I could summarize them I guess but it feels like I'm dropping spoilers. Belle inherited the color purple from Tiara, and I think Lina passed on the color yellow to Care the same way. Since Care was an attempted rebirth of Lina. I think Lina's color was originally yellow, and later overwritten to white, with the yellow and white items (flower, cake, pinwheel) as clues left to this effect. The items in Lina's room are there to spell out a message. The party scene where Anna asks "why are you covering your face?" and says "it doesn't matter how much you've changed. You aren't lost. Come home." is Anna talking to her lost sister who, presumably, is now going by "Rainer." There's more, but this is already much too long of a comment.