RAISED BEDS vs. IN-GROUND GARDENS | Fall Backyard Garden Planning

[@fnancy630]

My parents grew Culantro in Dominican Republic year round. I think it doesnt bolt I might have to grow some so I can unlock my childhood lol

[@LifewithBlindaandChuck]

Another great video, Travis. I never thought about the compactness of fall and winter crops, but it does give you the ability to plant more in smaller places. Love the raised beds.

[@trippnbilly7130]

This is becoming my favorite gardening channel. Thanks. Don't forget about us container gardeners.

[@LazyDogFarm]

For sure! We'll have a nice mix of in-ground and raised bed gardening content from here on.

[@dpaw60]

Definitely mine as well. Fellow container gardener here. Use stock tanks much like LDF’s.

[@ladyryan902]

Woohoo a whole plot of garlic I'm envious!! I've been looking for seed garlic for about a week!! The storm tore my front garden to shreds but the crazy eggplants are coming back and fruiting! Now if I can figure out to get broccoli to germinate😄

[@edcrall5330]

On my farm deciding what to plant in the raised beds vs what to plant in ground is very simple. If it’s a flower or something my wife wants to grow it goes to the raised bed. If it’s something I want to eat it goes to the in ground garden.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Haha! Makes perfect sense!

[@legalyzeit]

My dad and I grow both in ground an in raised beds made from sheets of DUROCK that are split down the middle. We have no real rhyme or reason behind what goes in the beds vs in the ground. Uusally larger planitngs we will put in the ground. I follow/combine the practicies of Charles Dowding and others like yourself. So great to have this cotent available for us new farmers. Thanks Trav looking forward to getting another Fig tree from you, our Mary Jane seedless or whatever is doing great.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Great to hear the tree is doing well. We hope to have quite a few more early next year.

[@hannahrosefl]

SW FL here and yeah. It wasn't fun. Heck it's still not fun. We're alive and our house is safe so we're thankful.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Glad y'all are okay!

[@bwayne40004]

Glad to see a raised bed segment to the channel. I’m sure I’ll be learning a few things or getting ideas for later. I have two 4x4, six 4x8 and six 4x12 beds plus the conventional garden I inherited when I bought my house. The garden gets sweet corn as primary crop and this year a section of watermelon. Probably do exactly the same next year, just rotate plots. Currently a few inch high cover crop of tillage radish, seven top turnip and some Austrian winter peas. Raised beds get everything else but I’m usually a bit less varied than I could be. Salad garden, radish, potatoes, garlic, onions, green beans, tomatoes. Did Swiss chard that produced all year and will try to winter it. Root crops, carrots, beets, fall turnips and cool season stuff. Always do my brassicas in the fall to ease the bug pressure. Usually do cabbage and some broccoli plants. Sowed Vates collards this year but had (I think) Georgia collards last year I really liked and could see a difference in from the Vates. Garden 2022 as a whole was not that great. Too hot or something was off. Maybe operator error this year. Only thing that was absolutely crazy was okra and second year asparagus. Overran the freezer with okra! I’m making gumbo once a week for a couple more weeks to get rid of what I don’t want to freeze. Life is tough!

[@LazyDogFarm]

Nothing wrong with having an abundance of okree!

[@markware4933]

Open field.... Indian corn. Raised beds.... Carrots, beets, leeks, brassicas. Seven-gallon nursery pots (use like mini raised beds) .... tomatoes, peppers, cukes, zucchini, melons (grown drop string Asian style). You've got a great system emerging and a thoughtful plan.

[@briankubik4252]

Glad you took my recommendation on the Culantro hope it works out. We did do better this year here in Michigan with our Culantro. maintained high 80's this year few 90 degrees days but dry.. Keep us informed! I am building a green house for the wife she is from Honduras said that the Culantro is like perennial not sure I can make it last thru the winter here..

[@jaredtaylor6180]

Easily my favorite channel by far. Thanks for the great content Travis

[@LazyDogFarm]

Appreciate that!

[@takeitslowhomestead5218]

Raised bed: carrots, onions, garlic, celery, bell peppers, bush beans, spinach, kale, cilantro, parsley, rosemary, short flowers. In ground: peas, corn, tomatoes, brassicas, squash, potatoes, pole beans, dill, asparagus, tall flowers. (It will be fun watching your fall/winter gardens grow while I’m inside painting walls, crafting, puzzling...)

[@whitestone4401]

I have one raised bed, right outside my kitchen door. In my experience, there have been many vegetables that have done very well. The best producers were carrots, onions, bush beans, peppers and any greens. I’m looking forward to watching what you do with yours.

[@jefferybarron929]

I have 4-6x9 raised beds and a 24x70 row crop garden. For my cold weather things, I mostly broadcast sowed the lettuces, mustard, turnips and especially the carrots in the raised beds. Maximum yield and harvest / thin as I go. Looking forward to seeing what your yields are. I

[@timfetner8029]

Great update on the greenhouse and your raised beds. Excited to see how those raised beds perform! Also glad to hear that you were spared Ian’s wrath.

[@mattshepherd8586]

Got some seeds from a buddy who swears garlic from seed is the way to go. Id have thought him a fool if i hadnt learned from travis about seed starting onions. Idk yet about the garlic but worth a try. Thanks Travis.

[@danielpastoreplants]

Always like your videos..thanks for all the great gardening info! Have you ever grown horseradish? Maybe something else to try in the raised bead. I have tried it with minimal success in my sand soil and hot weather. I keep trying new things to get a good crop so I can make some sauce- horseradish/cocktail-for oysters etc. It would be cool to see how you would do the horseradish in a similar climate I know that in some places it probably would grow like a weed.

[@LazyDogFarm]

I have some growing in our raised beds by the barn. Not sure when to harvest it though.

[@danielpastoreplants]

@@LazyDogFarm I should have remembered that you were doing the horseradish. I watch most of the videos but you have so many I forgot about it. I thought of another thing that you might try if you didn’t have it. Green Sorrel I have one that does really good especially in the cool season. I have had to dig it up a couple years and put it in a pot for the heat of the summer and keep it in the shade. I use it mostly in smoothies but it’s a nice lemon taste mixed with other salad greens also.

[@charleselertii6187]

First Rate Travis! Thanks, Chuck in Jensen Beach, Florida

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thanks Chuck!

[@DawnRaeB]

Watching you on Blinda and Chuck. I swore I subbed to your previously. Good thing I popped in tonight so I could sub again.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thanks for joining us!

[@jonlewis6630]

I have two 8'x4'x8" raised beds. I use weed fabric on them and I grow tomatoes in the spring and a brassica in the fall/winter. I can pull the fabric to ammend the soil etween planting. I really like the weed fabric for tomatoes because it keeps the disease and weed pressure way down. I don't have enough room to rotate much, so I do what I can.

[@chrisfisher3900]

I use both raised beds and in ground. I grow cucumbers between my fig trees on one and corn and other taller crops in the other. Raised beds are used for everything else. Grow bags only for all my peppers

[@ronaldcummings6337]

I have always thought that it would be helpful to plant bush beans in a tall raised bed for ease of harvest.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Very much so!

[@LowcountryGardener]

Thanks for reminding me about Cilantro. I thought I had all my Fall and Winter stuff started, but forgot about Cilantro. Guessing you will be planting Collards in an inground plot.

[@davidfreiberg5637]

This channel is what I've been looking for. I watch epic gardening, James P. and Self Sufficient Me. Being a Georgia boy myself here in Midwest Georgia and a Dawgs fan, this channel just seems custom tailored!

[@LazyDogFarm]

Glad you found us David!

[@hardstylzz5024]

I agree especially in South Georgia, here in Thomasville Ga it's my go to channel for gardening.

[@davidfreiberg5637]

@@hardstylzz5024 I'm about 45 minutes down 85 from Atlanta. But I lived in Thomasville for about 18 months when I was in high-school. Gorgeous town. Fantastic weather.

[@donnaallred7068]

I think it would be interesting to grow the same crop/variety in a your raised bed and in-ground garden. I am also curious what you discover in how to manage the raised beds vs. in-ground plots like water and fertilizer. I have gardened in large containers a bit the past few years and have no experience with in-ground gardening due to gophers. I think this content will be very interesting to follow. Thank you for trying the no-till and now raised beds...plus the raised beds look quite nice. Love the channel.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thanks Donna. We won't be planting the same varieties in our in-ground plots vs. the raised beds, but we will have cabbage in both. So maybe that will help provide a comparison. In the in-ground gardens, we usually only apply fertilizer in the furrow at planting. But in the raised beds, we'll just sprinkle it over the entire bed prior to planting since things will be planted so closely in there.

[@alabamagirl2725]

Mr Travis I love them raised beds. I will be getting some for February.

[@LazyDogFarm]

You'll love them!

[@wingandaprayer7777]

Travis, thank you so much for the "map" and how you plan to execute it and why. Your family's channel is the best and most exciting channel out there. You give us a great perspective on gardening in the south and how I can do better in my Zone 10A garden! Thanks as always for the valuable information!

[@LazyDogFarm]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@angeladrury7060]

Can you put tomato cages on yellow squash to save space?

[@LazyDogFarm]

I don't know that I've ever seen it done. I would guess that the plants would find a way to crawl out the cages.

[@artonthewing]

Thank you for sharing your thought processes about your gardening approach. It really helps people like me. About culantro-- one year I got some culantro seedlings from a local nursery, I had no idea what it was at the time. I fell in love with it pretty quickly because here outside Houston, TX the growing season for cilantro is small, whereas culantro can take the heat a little better. I make hot sauces for my husband and stumbled upon a great simple recipe from Trinidad that uses culantro, scotch bonnets, vinegar, garlic, and yellow mustard...I substitute a much less hot pepper (gong bau) because I'm not fond of nuking my mouth and other critical body parts, and believe you me, it is a tasty hot sauce. Culantro is tougher (even prickly) than delicate cilantro so it is well-suited to sauces etc. you blend it into. Also, I've not had much luck trying to start culantro from seed. Which is odd because the original plants I purchased have dropped seeds that started on their own pretty regularly. IMHO If you like cilantro and you live in the south, you will really like what culantro brings to the table.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Sounds like we'll love it if we can get it to germinate!

[@sandraoconnor5700]

Looks great !! Have a bountiful harvest!!

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thanks Sandra!

[@vansgardens2304]

Beds are looking good, another great video 👍🏻 Instead of rows for your carrots, raised beds are the perfect opportunity to broadcast seed them. Metal beds are too expensive not to use every bit of space that you can.I water them in good once after broadcasting them and barely covering them with compost. Then I lay cardboard over it for 5-7 days for even germination.

[@LazyDogFarm]

I think we'll be able to get quite a few carrots in one of those long skinny beds.

[@kathysheesley463]

Hi Travis, could you please explain the difference between drip tubing and drip tape?

[@LazyDogFarm]

We'll be covering that on a video in the next couple weeks hopefully!

[@KajunHomestead]

Looking good boss

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thanks 👍

[@mattshepherd8586]

Thanks!

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thank you Matt!

[@ricsgarden7394]

KInda off topic. Ive been doing gardens for more years than I would admit. I still struggle to get plants out of 6 cell seed trays. I notice you use ones with 32 or even more cells. Can you show us how you get plants out of those large planters one day? It would be much handier if I could use the big seed starter trays. Im probably not letting them dry enough before removing, or probably something simple but man those big trays dont work for me.

[@LazyDogFarm]

My rule of thumb is ... if the plants don't easily pull from the trays, they're not ready. When they have a nice rootball established and a strong stem, removing them is really easy.

[@angeladrury7060]

What about shallots? How do you plant shallots?

[@LazyDogFarm]

I've heard that planting from seed is best. I've only planted from bulbs with very little luck.

[@fastsetinthewest]

Need an edit. You could've filmed in the Green House with the wind blowing. Now, you hit the house. Hahahahaha. Eaglegards...

[@singncarpenter6270]

I regularly buy seeds from MIgardener. I grew culantro this year for the second time. It loves hot weather and can be grown in ground or even small containers. Heat and drought tolerant. I am not sure how it will do in the cooler temps of fall though. I look forward to an update on that. I've got a bunch of cilantro going for fall and winter. It loves the cool weather and both are herbs we actually use.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Thanks for sharing the Culantro info!

[@wwsuwannee7993]

When I first started, I would grow shorter, more compact veg in the raised beds too...tall stuff in ground. Now days it's whatever I feel like. It all works good. I have even grown sweet potatoes in them and just let them cascade over, keeping them mowed off...it all works.

[@LazyDogFarm]

I'm excited to try sweet potatoes in ours next year.

[@davidmaxwell7029]

Looking good as always Travis. I too am needing to do some additional onions seed planting. I do have a hybrid setup garden. About 40 or so 4'x8' raised beds and then a larger area in the back. I use the back for stuff like corn, butter beans and peas. That is where I did the potatoes last year. I will be planting a cover crop back there this fall which leads me to my question. I'm in zone 8 like you and was wondering when would be a good time to plant my mustard cover crop? As far as the raised beds I plant many types of peppers. Tomatoes also go into them along with lettuce, kale, onions and other items. Keep those excellent video's coming.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Plant it now.

[@CliffWarren]

Yes, we do a hybrid system. Raised beds for all of the compact stuff, and in-ground for big things like corn, potatoes, tomatoes, and pumpkins. Hey, I wanted to ask you when do you plan to end the bigmater contest?

[@LazyDogFarm]

We announced the winners a few videos ago. I had stopped receiving submissions, so figured it was time to call it.

[@CliffWarren]

@@LazyDogFarm Looks like I just missed it!

[@theworkingmansgarden7638]

Trav, culantro is a warm season herb and to my understanding, doesn't tolerate direct sun. Also extremely slow. Although I've not grown it yet. I got seeds earlier in the season and was planning on growing it indoors until next spring. Ijs

[@LazyDogFarm]

I think I might plant some in the shaded raised beds by the barn and some in the new raised beds for comparison sake.

[@victornjenncollado6549]

Mr Travis, he is correct. They take almost 4-6 weeks to come up. They are Shade plants... And high humidity and high temperature plant. I have very little success with this herb. I successfully grew them in Sumter SC this last 3 years. Started them in an aquarium green house and they did great. Transplanting was done when 2-3 long leaves.

[@victornjenncollado6549]

Also... Was in the summer. This plant grows well in the Caribbean.

[@rickthelian2215]

Travis, will you still be putting on the top soil in the raised beds to top them off and give the seedlings a head start? Locke the idea to plant all Garlic in one bed. I’ve planted some left over potatoes in horse manure and it’s bedding , so here’s hoping, but the large container one is extremely green a health, which I topped up with more manure and bedding to hill them. Don’t need no water plenty of rain

[@LazyDogFarm]

Yes we'll be layering some of the native soil from the plot in the beds.

[@rickthelian2215]

@@LazyDogFarmTravis, I just remembered the plan to use mulch in the walkways between the raised beds, naturally after topping up the raised beds with the native soil, I thought you’d put in the mulch on the pathways, but you put on other bed. You may just get another load of wood chips fit that.😀🇦🇺

[@amyk6028]

Great video! Where are your Georgia Collards?? ❤

[@LazyDogFarm]

Somehow we forgot to add those into our raised bed map. So we shifted things around a little and we'll have collards in one of the beds. Should have a video about those on next Wednesday.

[@marysurbanchickengarden]

I'm crowding so much in my few raised beds and hopefully it won't have to be thinned to much. I have potatoes growing at different stages that are volunteers and if they make anything I'm going to eat them. Travis you need to do a rain dance because it's gotten very dry here.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Yep. Bout time to sing some Phil Collins.

[@marysurbanchickengarden]

@@LazyDogFarm mix you some black Kow in the top of your soil and the winter garden will love it.

[@sislertx]

Yeah...i bought curly parsley for blue swallotail from the dollar store...turned out they are all flat leaf...not happy...i just wonder if the swallow tail will like it...i had five catiplliars and two plants they ate up way way too quick...hope they make it...i should be able to really.feed about 200 next year...easily...if the drought breaks...our historic wettest month has turned into the dryest!! This has gotten really bad at our place as almost every storm has parted and MISSED US..LAST THREE for sure I also had found a old pack of dill and got 2 outta about 200 seeds..but two more than i had before. Im a seed hoarder...there i confessed. My first time admitting it publically..im pushing 80 and have always been...as long as i can remember

[@LazyDogFarm]

It's really dry here too.

[@cynthialewis7080]

Received my Olle beds today, thanks for the discount. Have you ever tried shallots?

[@LazyDogFarm]

I have tried them several times with little success. They don't seem to do well down here in the south.

[@shirleyk623]

Did I understand you to say you pulled your sweet potatoes already? I thought they were harvested after the first frost. I'm having a problem with wireworm feeding on my sweet potatoes. Do you have any suggestions on how to get rid of them?

[@LazyDogFarm]

We usually aim to harvest ours 100 days or so after we plant -- otherwise they can get too big. I'd try growing a mustard cover crop this winter wherever you plan on putting sweet potatoes next year.

[@shirleyk623]

@@LazyDogFarm Due to a back injury and not being able to garden, I couldn't trim the extra vines. I have them trailing every where and they are setting sweet potatoes. Should I just harvest the grow bags and leave the stragglers? Or harvest everything? This is my first year growing them in this manner. I use to have a large plot, but changed to raised beds and grow bags. I will try the cover crop to get rid of the wireworm problem. When I find a wireworm I feed it to the lizards. Where do you get your cover crop seeds? Thanks Travis. 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@waynespringer501]

You'll want to top those raised beds off with more soil. As you can see in the video a significant shadow is cast on the one side of the bed from the wall of the bed, which will make anything you plant in that shadow area not grow like the rest of the bed. I grow mainly corn and okree in my inground bed and everything else in my raised beds.

[@amyk6028]

Good suggestion 👍🏼 I have a dozen raised beds. I probably need to add more soil 🤔 I like to leave an extra 6-12” at the top for mulch

[@bigredforever]

When do start putting some fertilize to your tray onions?

[@LazyDogFarm]

I've been fertilizing those sprouted ones since they flipped out the seed starting mix.

[@mutantryeff]

Have you decided how many years you'll keep your chickens until you start introducing/replacing them with new chickens? After 2 or 3 years, the production can start dropping until they get to be 6 or 7 years old - if my memory is correct.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Ours are only a little over a year old, so I think we have a little time before we make any decisions like that. I like the egg production, but their main purpose is to eat cover crops and poop in the garden.

[@mutantryeff]

Are you going to wet down the contents of the raised beds, as they will likely settle down a bunch once wet?

[@bearfoot561]

My thoughts exactly, I give it about 10 inch will shrink.

[@LazyDogFarm]

I ran an overhead sprinkler on them to help them settle a little. But they didn't sink much.

[@matthewmcclendon5308]

Are we not letting the beet drop this season? An if one was to wanna drop tha beet, would you come direct or transplant? An when droppin tha beet it’s all about timing. So what’s the timing?

[@LazyDogFarm]

We'll definitely be letting the beet drop very soon -- direct seeding.

[@brianschindler1511]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@rickjay4639]

Have you ever tried salanova lettuces I really like it especially the one red oak leaf. I've been meaning to ask is if your 2-1/2" plastic pots have gotten brittle and started cracking and falling apart? I have the same ones and that's what happened. I did leave them in the greenhouse. We had some 108 degree days and was 120 plus in greenhouse, my mistake.

[@rickjay4639]

I'm surprised you're not planting spinach in the raised beds

[@LazyDogFarm]

I have grown Salanova. They're good, but I don't know that they're quite as good as the hype. The heads seem smaller, but they are pretty.

[@priayief]

I've always had issues germinating carrots with drip tape. I'm assuming since you use it, that you don't have any problems. It appears to me that the soil fails to get even enough coverage along the tape. I'm wondering if you use a particular type of drip tape for carrots?

[@LazyDogFarm]

Run it all night after your plant to soak the entire planting area really well. If the soil looks dry in the next day or so, run it all night again. Keep that bed moist until they germinate.

[@markware4933]

Ron, carrots can be a booger to germinate. I use a row cover of mid-weight Agri-bon over the wetted bed to give them a fighting chance

[@priayief]

@@markware4933 Thanks for the suggestion. I've found carrots take a long time to germinate and it is a problem to keep the soil moist. I use a similar approach as you but on a much smaller scale. I soak the area before planting then cover with old carpeting or rugs until they germinate. Cheers.

[@berbice123]

Please let us know if you get any germination from the culantro seeds.

[@LazyDogFarm]

Will do.

[@RICHat22]

What seed trays are you using now?

[@LazyDogFarm]

I use mostly the Proptek trays. I use the larger ones for most veggies and the smaller, deeper cell trays for onions.

[@empresskimberly4410]

I have a hybrid system but I’m new at raised beds this year. I’m really struggling with them. I think it’s a watering issue. I’m watering like inground and it’s just not even close to enough….I think

[@LazyDogFarm]

Yeah the beds aren't going to hold water near as well as the in-ground soil in most cases.

[@mattpeacock5208]

Culantro will step your taco night game up a whole other level! Don't be stingy with that stuff!!

[@LazyDogFarm]

Noted!

[@debbiemoore9069]

Check out bumblebee junction they have both. raised beds and in ground gardening .In ground corn, watermelon, pumpkin, field peas,Okra and Brussels sprouts.They also bought a big round water tank from tracker supplies to use for their sweet potatoes. They bought those 15-20 gallons containers for their potatoes. Check out a simple life he knows potatoes

[@larrysheetmetal]

FYI MUSTARD OIL has gone out the roof almost $20 for a gallon . IN ASIAN STORES

[@LazyDogFarm]

Don't know that I've ever used mustard oil. What's the use for it?

[@hopemorrison2367]

you should use cornmeal to feed the animals cook it like how you cook the rice there is no nutrition in rice

[@davidkendall589]

Apparently you aren't going to talk about raised beds vs. in-ground gardens.

[@LazyDogFarm]

We definitely do talk about that at the end when we get to our raised bed plot.

[@davidkendall589]

@@LazyDogFarm nah

[@arthurdewith7608]

Tater time?

[@jeanettedoucet5292]

Community to focus you have to focus on a face if not WHO u going to focus on?

[@jeanettedoucet5292]

Everyone has freedom of choosing a face.

[@debbiemoore9069]

Sorry that was simplifying gardening for container for potatoes