What Pro Poker Players Don't Want You To Know | Podcast with Patrick Leonard and Bencb

[@Way2fast4u82]

Patrick is one of a few players with the ability to articulate his knowledge in a way that can be understood by the average person. Awesome content.

[@JT_11]

wow i cant remember the last time i have been listening to a 97minutes podcast without getting bored/distracted at some point...really good talk guys

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Good to hear! We will keep pumping them out!

[@MikeWassermanPoker]

Been doing the tournament poker thing for 10+ years and I still learn a ton from talks like this. You both offer so much to the poker community. Thank you.

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Happy to do it.

[@thedew9452]

17 minutes in and I'm already nodding vigorously at my screen. This content is like gold. Thanks Ben and Pads!

[@thedew9452]

Seriously, this talk was exactly what I needed today. Thank you.

[@Simon-nv5zj]

Every year I come back to this video. In my opinion, the single greatest video for how to navigate low-mid stakes tournaments ever. Patrick Leonard is an absolute beast

[@JohnG57]

Every year, I re-watch these podcasts.They are so informative. Thank you, Ben!

[@JClarkey6]

Pads is the best pro to have on these podcasts, could listen to him for hours. Keep up the good work Ben, appreciate it.

[@thomaskruiper4497]

That pads is so smart

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Big brain on that guy or what!

[@thomaskruiper4497]

@@RaiseYourEdge defently

[@Romans8-9]

except about politics.

[@cristiplopeanu]

It's called awareness and we all have it. It's just that the vast majority of people don't know how to access it.

[@thru_and_thru]

This is absolutely brilliant advice and so happy I found this podcast.

[@lyubo_g4579]

That's like the best and honest poker video i've seen in a while. Well done guys. Always a pleasure to watch you both talk about poker. There is so much value in this video.. I hope people realize It. It's insane

[@maurits226]

The content provided in this video is straight up priceless and so motivational!

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Super happy to hear!

[@eyecup4428]

two brilliant minds having a insightful convo that kept me engaged the whole time. These guys are truly a testament to the saying that hard work pays off, and validation that poker is a complex game of strategy and discipline.

[@Procastinatestoomuch]

Incredible information! Thank you so much Ben and Pads!

[@pandrzejkowicz]

Ben, I think your mug (37:58) reflects, how much I love this content. Keep it up man.

[@we_are_lucid]

Really insightful podcast guys. Two of my favorite players and people! One reflection/insight that arose for me (that may be useful for someone reading this) regards dealing with negativity...many of us have discovered the freedom, stress-reduction, and inspiration that comes from letting go of negativity and viewing things in a more neutral or even positive light...this is a blessing, because we have all likely also experienced feeling very negative about things ourselves....it's just human nature. But, when we notice someone else being really negative about things, it's natural for us to want to say "stop being negative, just be positive," etc. But this is often a reactionary stress response from ourselves, comes off as judgmental, and often doesn't get received well. So whenever we notice getting upset about someone else's negativity, this is an opportunity for OURSELF to reconnect with that peace and positivity within ourself. And to better communicate the message for the other person, we might be better off (1) to put ourselves in their shoes for a moment and understand why they might be feeling negative, and then (2) encourage them to see a new path, by saying something like "hey I understand why you may feel that way, and I used to feel a similar way about x...but there's actually a lot of good and opportunity in the situation, and we'll get better results by focusing on the opportunity instead." And if the person is really so stressed out that they do not understand, we do not "need" to make them understand...we can just move on....any extra worry is just more attachment/ego illusion on our part. But through self-awareness, and honest but compassionate communication, we can really guide someone towards a better path that they might not have seen, just like we hadn't (and still don't) at times. With humility and gratitude, blessings everyone, have a lovely day.

[@hokageenergy9599]

Im not planning to be a poker pro, but I always listen to this type of conversations from rebuycb, his words are pure gold (26:46)

[@nathansmith7335]

Great podcast - Pads explains himself so well, so easy to understand his ideas, inspiring.

[@andreasebbesson6984]

Top stuff guys, hearing you talk about these things really gets you motivated to improve and think about the game in a logical and simple manner

[@RaiseYourEdge]

That's great to hear! #letsCRUSH

[@bigfishnoshrimp]

incredible video. two legends of the game. thanks for this!

[@Chris-rd9ui]

i can tell pads got a rly nice lvl of focus. he can rly well listen.

[@DSNIPEE]

Thanks for taking the time to make these and educate others. Very real conversations, much appreciated

[@RaiseYourEdge]

You are very welcome!

[@glock18c]

Really insightful commentary, Pads. Good stuff!

[@szabmaaan]

Guys i am so happy you sharing this talks between you. its helping me a lot !

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Lovely to hear David! More to come!

[@TonyBaXxX]

Loved the conversation guys ! Keep it up, alot of great info

[@josel4950]

huge respect for pads and ben, great podcast i learned a ton from it !! .

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Super happy you enjoyed!

[@PsyferInc]

@50:22 This reminds me of an interview of Valentina Shevchenko, a current UFC champion. They asked her if she regrets all the sacrifices she made to train so much and give up so much time. She said, "What should I regret? Should I have wasted my time getting drunk and doing stupid stuff? Is that even something I should regret?" I regret nothing because all my dedications has brought me here where I'm at and now I can do so much more than just celebrate. - all paraphrased by me. Devote valuable time to what you want to achieve. It's part of that "hard work" everyone talks about...

[@expresso99]

Total Gold. Thanks so much for doing this guys! 💰

[@Richard-pv1vc]

2 of my favourite poker people! Amazing podcast guys with an amazing level of value 🙌

There is a great quote about working hard - To be The Number One, You have to work like Number Two.

[@Getsitdone]

So interesting! Great content! Thank you so much!

[@RaiseYourEdge]

You're welcome!

[@brianbernales5852]

Great conversation on how to excel in anything

[@PokerCommunity]

Thanks for that very nice conversation. DANKESCHÖN 👍🍻

[@gollyg4me]

First time watcher. I'm kicking myself for not doing it earlier. Amazing content and I LOVE the multiple time stamps with topics to keep you engaged.

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Lovely to hear Edwin, welcome aboard!

[@moonsniper3543]

Great interview! Love the Pete Sampras analogy. I could never totally buy into to the GTO balance approach as a winning implementable strategy. I'm more inclined to develop exploits against hardcore GTO practitioners. It seems so many overlook fold equity these days and look for excuses to call into marginal situations at critical times when they can just hold on to their stack and get it in as the aggressor in a better spot a few hands later. As far as holding onto edges after success, I think the skills most likely to erode are the mental game and bankroll management skills. Both skills can be better maintained with more humility and less ego. Winning feeds the ego and erodes discipline. Gotta always stay ready for the ride on the variance train. I look forward to the meta games against GTO players in live play at low to mid stakes. I am not a robot, and neither are they.

[@kingkong-jm5fz]

Thank you guys for this absolutely incredible Podcast! In this Video are coming so many things together and esp. the last videos from RYE or with Pads, it´s insane. Thanks so much to Patrick for the recommended Article on Medium, it was so awesome to read, and i eat it :D And last but not least, so much respect for the idea of unionizing and a poker-community who will implement this maybe. ☺♥ Much greetings

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Great to hear! You're very welcome

[@tomboyd2933]

So good I'm watching it for a second time

[@carvajam]

One of best podcast so far

[@pavelivanov78]

Perfect content as always, thank you guys!

[@DmitriiBabanov]

Yeah , that was For sure one of the best and useful videos about poker I ever saw 🙏🏻🥰 sooo much very good information . Thanks a lot , Ben ! 🙏🏻

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mjwils]

01:35:37 & the next 10seconds of KZbin's "closed captioning" Is brilliant.

[@alessandrocorona3839]

Amazing podcast, great contents! Thank you very much guys!!

[@superpasi7315]

Plot Twist: They left out what they really don’t want us to know cause they are pro players

[@stevenfitzgerald9905]

Plot Twist: There exist outtakes of this conversation where they actually DO talk pro but we will never find out because we are not pro and therefore they cut it out

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Conspiracy Masterclass under way ;-)

[@RaiseYourEdge]

@@stevenfitzgerald9905 1st take for the win

[@turmoil9]

Around 38 mins it was edited to cut the juiciest part I'm sure of it ;)

[@Reffik16]

@@RaiseYourEdge but its just maarketiiing xDDDD grüße aus Hietzing ^^

[@hanyoloderechte]

This is the most interesting poker podcast i have ever seen! Thanks so much Ben and Pads. I will 100 % join the RYE Team!!!

[@RaiseYourEdge]

We are really happy to hear you liked it, looking forward to see you join us!

[@whoisaleksandr]

Thank you boys for this amazing podcast !!! ❤️

[@Marcu5p]

Great listen this. Thank you and subbed :)

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Check out Pads blog: medium.com/@patrickleonard_1924/post-series-blues-c77f5a9d7811

[@RaiseYourEdge]

@Boss Life TV Thanks for the tip! Weren't aware of the new feature yet

[@christianbache4074]

Excellent stuff. Holy shit, Pads is a powerhouse when it comes to dropping wisdom.

[@andreawolf2763]

Great episode, Patrick you’re amazing!

[@gamefreaker321]

Very good advice for people that want to get into the game.

[@seriouskidsthemusic]

such a great talk . thanks so much for sharing honestly all these topics .as a former professional volleyball player completely agree with compulsive mastering

[@RaiseYourEdge]

You're welcome!

[@diwakarmanghnani9649]

it is just insane. I can't believe how ignorant I have been. I had to take a break after 15 mins of the video due to the sheer volume of information which has just been given away for free. Thank you so much.

[@benpaquette1066]

this was really useful for me !! thanks guys

[@RaiseYourEdge]

thanks ben

[@mynameiskarl]

1) 14:25 is exactly what the arrogant cash gamer in me didn't realize 5+ years ago. Well put. 2) I'm on "team GTO", but this conversation was a good one to show the other side. Shows the limitations of solvers and the absurdity of always worrying about "but but GTO/balance... but but the solver..." 3) re: balance vs "obsessive" all-in approach to mastery I'm guilty of preaching balance, while having no balance at all when I started. Grinding all day every day. At some point you sneak in some balance to make it more sustainable. Good discussion guys.

[@dondraper6883]

PADSPOKER could be a good mental poker coach) he's speech is really motivating ✌♥️

[@RaiseYourEdge]

It must be the accent ;-)

[@neverdixs]

such a master piece i will see it aain before the series now that i own the both courses can really understand better your mental thoughts

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Thank you very much! Keep chipping away at it and improving!

[@hakambo1636]

What is the program mentioned in 19:05?

[@louisindubioproreo6589]

Nice channel. Talk about rta and boot thats an interesting subject too.

[@danielb4690]

Well ive been studying dfifferent preflop ranges at 100BB to 60BB for the past two weerks. Time to change my approach. Thanks for the advice.

[@RaiseYourEdge]

You are welcome, good luck!

[@martindzurenda6678]

excellent discussion lads !

[@ellypticosis3413]

I had heard of pads, but didnt know who he was, nor could I put a face to him. But this impressed the shit out of me, and was the perfect way to start the Sunday grind.

[@BasketballFundamentals]

Amazing podcast, thanks for everything you do Ben. One thing tho, please have your mic closer to your mouth, I had to change volume every time you guys were talking.

[@mihkelvainjarv2508]

Superb content ! Could someone please explain what Pads is referring to at 59:20 ? 10 HR ... Also I can't find the Pads article link anywhere, anyone mind sharing it? Thanks !

[@tomwuustwezel]

Really great content, enjoyed every minute of it

[@toineb777]

Thanks for the good infos and good updates on the ecosystem. Really interesting stuff !

[@TheNCheung]

Love it thanks for this !

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Great to hear!

[@LastOfMe87]

ty so much for this great content Ben and Pads

[@happywednesday6741]

@54:00 Great chat, and there is a correlation, but just to be clear you are skirting around the point that having alot of money frees up alot of time...If that's the case, for most people I would steer them clear of Poker...🤣

[@sarzan71]

This video alone made me lot of money and made me want to be MTT olayer. Thank you Ben Pads!!!

[@sarzan71]

I listen to this pretty much everyday and learn something new each time :;)

[@RaiseYourEdge]

That's awesome!

[@jasonmaurer]

Absolute Gold. Thanks a lot fellas.

[@keithmason1485]

It's funny I've heard a lot of MTT regs say late regging is betting for your hourly while regging on time is better for you ROI but I know for sure I've had far more success late regging and Pads pretty much confirms that my experience is probably how it should be around the 15 minute mark. Really great interview, with lots of honesty and nuggets to learn from.

[@redbaronlast]

Really really great video! Thanks alot! Where is Patricks article that you talk about?

[@RaiseYourEdge]

medium.com/@patrickleonard_1924/post-series-blues-c77f5a9d7811

[@iconicheight1188]

Essentially the genre, scope, or nuances don't really matter unless you have the proper mindset. Granted, I'm sure they struggled at first (as both mentioned), but they are really making up for it on the back end by living the life they've chosen, enjoying the friends they choose, and limits they enjoy trying to attain. Honesty is a rare quality with something as contentious as poker, and it's actually in ones best interest to water down their advice. Kudos and Karma

[@esIworld]

WOW! I so agree. I had this discussion on the DTO discord. A simple question about their app having RFI spots turned in to sarcastic speeches about how preflop actually didn't matter much. I guess anything to sell a product. I tried to clarify if they were talking about cash games (which still wouldn't make sense, but a bit more) but no, tourneys and SnG's too. So yes, I'm very happy to have seen this video.

[@stamogeorgiev5504]

38:00 love the glass with hearts

[@julesb1421]

Great stuff, thanks Ben and Patrick both

[@RaiseYourEdge]

You are welcome!

[@liammacdonaldcampbell6585]

What are the best ways to study 0-30bb short stack poker and ICM? Do I need to get icmizer? Do you have a lot of course content particularly on this topic? Thanks

[@BrainstormingBetsizing]

The sng masterclass has included a lot of 25bb and less icm Content. I recommend HRC or ICMizer

[@Stefanburakov]

Common Sense and Good Brain is fine IF not have then buy a class

[@elonpisante9025]

This is amazing guys. Well done :) If you not be able to extract the advices that Pads and Ben give to you, I'm so sorry. About Mindset the book of Carol Dweck is priceless on that subject.

[@IchbinsPogo]

Understanding opportunity costs is so important

[@percyblok6014]

Just returned to playing live poker after taking a decade off. Quickly found out that the virtual poker landscape is severely disconnected from the live poker world. Talking cash games here. Your solver is going to do more harm than good. Solid poker fundamentals, being able to identify player types and understand the counter strategy is going to STILL make the money. Poker is still alive and well. SOME of the younger players have a good game, but their execution in the real world is pretty poor. FPS, Fancy Play Syndrome and missing bets is a big leak from what I've seen.

[@Stefanburakov]

You so right

[@jasonhounsell3297]

The problem however is your talking strictly about exploiting the worst rec players. If your not studied at all vs a decent reg you have very little chance. Anyone can beat recs, some for more money than others, I value bet thinner than I likely should in almost every pot I can because in live poker people don’t raise punish me nearly enough. Against other regs though I play more solid, because I’ve studied not to beat the whale who’s spewing but to stay relevant when everyone else gets better.

[@Gos1234567]

@@jasonhounsell3297 He didnt say anything about the worst recs,he said "identify player types and understand the counter strategy."Thats basic exploitative play

[@MegaFlec]

Love BenCB's mug xD

[@Vismux69]

This is GOLD 👌👌

[@adeltk6999]

Pads next masterclass: how to mincash 100% :)

[@MrFraser12345]

Sorry, I was focused on my DNegs comment. Thanks for a great podcast, very interesting and informative.

[@jakovbralic6021]

huge respect for both of you guys :)

[@shadowmaniac78]

Great podcast, thoroughly enjoyed it but what is the link for Leonard's blog?

[@michaelmac9376]

i wish i saw this earlier but i ended up studying 10BB,20BB short stack equity play because ive realized that every tourney ive played would always end up there. Since then my game has gotten way better and im making more FT.

[@Владимир-я1з5ш]

Yes, from 2bb to 30bb for me, with skipping some stacks in between due to comparing let's say 5bb to 6bb with small adjustments.

[@samuelmckinnon6976]

Hey boys, this is amazing stuff. What is the best way to study 10-30bb preflop though?

[@bgymn-fn8jy]

now i start to understand why i do better in this game when i just play after my own head and ideas and why i start to fuck up when i try to apply whats considered to be optimal. cause you only need to play optimal against the optimal player and that guy doesnt exist.

[@josel4950]

the unhealthy compulsive topic really affected me in a good way, i remember llinuslove grinding 200z,. he maybe took 1 day off a month, he was grinding hardcore 8+ hours a day and studying

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Different strokes for different folks.

[@hugovaz777]

@@RaiseYourEdge masterbation-nation

[@hugovaz777]

@Ollie gotta do what you gotta do, to become a pro

[@moonymjmj]

Loved the video. Thank you for bringing him on. That Sampras analogy was gold.

[@benh9749]

Great content, one tip would be to make sure your camera is setup so you are centred and looking at it. Would make watching the podcast so much better.

[@yabachaaa3250]

Oh man this is golden!

[@jeremyhughes4030]

thanks for the video

[@RaiseYourEdge]

You are welcome Jeremy!

[@davidonsley4127]

Thanks guys,great life lessons really appreciate it.

[@neilminagh375]

Thanks again Ben 💚

[@Dono-da-Blaze]

Keep up the good work Ben! Please interview Yuri theNERDguy.

[@RaiseYourEdge]

Thanks! We will continue to look for great guests!

[@pyhaisback]

Is there any discussion on some forum about the claims on the Piosolver not being useful at the start of tournament, when bluffcatching on the river? The topic starts at 19.30 The example is that when pio says you win 100 chips with that river call, then at the start of tournament you capture only about 20 percent of that, since dollar ev is so low. But doesnt capturing only 20 percent of that still mean you are making a plus ev call? Even if the play shows plus 1 chip, then capturing 0.2 chips is still plus ev in the longrun?

[@christophergreen2788]

A lot golden nuggets! Party poker doing poker best way. Also the pool is harder than other places, rake back helps a lot

[@TonyViper]

awesome talk! thanks guys :)

[@imgoated7983]

I watched this 2x had to comment at 2.2x your the goat bencb