Raising retirement age is ‘simply not feasible’

[@paddlesmcbean2366]

Clearly the unions and the labor party know nothing about tradies. If they did they would never do this.

[@lillyskyla3658]

It's not just tradies, it's all people who do hard physical work period. Their are many of us!!!!!! I work in aged care and it's hard physical work each and every day. What about factory workers lifting, pushing, pulling every day etc. Many job roles require extreme heavy work loads. Its not all tools :(

[@janinea333]

No, no, no … you hit 65yo and working becomes hard, physically and mentally. I’m now 66 and have 6 months to go until aged pension age and I’m clawing away at each day until then.

[@whiskeygamer9402]

Glad I Retired before the Plandemic and proudly Unvaxxed and I turn 60 next year👍🏽

[@patricianelson8]

Changing the the goalposts again. If people are close to retirement, then they should be grandfathered in to receive benefits.

[@myownperson8145]

Ageism is real. I can't get a job, in my 60's

[@GirtByIdiots]

Many of the "tired" tradies are employing younger tradies to do their work, and because they now have to pay their wages, their prices are through the roof.

[@BuckJoFiden]

And good luck finding any workers that are capable. Anyone that’s any good are usually flat out busy.

[@kyliedrost3589]

The ADF has a mandatory retirement age of 60.

[@gavwilson3413]

I have great sympathy for tradies here. As a veteran myself, I'm well aware of what the rigours of physical work do to the body. I won't last to 60, when retirement is mandatory in the military. I could NOT go to 67. And it surprises me not one bit tradies bodies give up before 65. On the up side, we're once again being presented with court ready evidence that Labor don't care about workers. And have not for a long time.

[@schweppes59]

bloke I'm 63, with a coupler heart attacks in the last 2 years. I can't do what I used to do because I played footy for years but I also worked long hours as brickies labourer. I'm buggered now, can't get out of bed in the mornings with arthritis in the hands & feet but the govt says I still gotta look for 4 jobs a month & report to a job provider... I guess this will go on until I'm 67, or whatever different age they set the pension to..oh & forget about disability

[@grandmaisback6052]

as someone who worked as a cleaner, as a Nanny, as a housemaid, in retail... I agree... my joints are shot and I have years to go before I am entitled to a pension... I guess dying on the job is all I have.

[@Hunty49]

Maybe they should change the retirement age to 70 for white collar jobs and 60 for blue collar jobs. Just seems fair.

[@shaneodwyer3579]

Then we may see an excess of individuals over time choose to enter the trades industry over white collar jobs. Not so much in high paying sectors like lawyers, ceos etc but lower paying white collar jobs like office workers and or IT workers. This may lead to a shortage of crucial workers in one industry and an excess in another, which would in turn lower the rates tradies can charge for there work as there would be an abundance of willing and eager workers and a large amount of young teens wasting 4 years getting a trade in an industry that may not be viable which would in turn harm the economy and therefore harm our retirement, health sector and other essential public services and of course lead to an increase in wages for relatively low paying white collar workers not saying this will cause any issue although I can think of a few ways it may.

[@Hunty49]

@@shaneodwyer3579 We need physical labour workers more than call centre workers.

[@ironmaidens6663]

We all get old and frail and can't do the things we once did when we were young. The reality you just cant go on forever.

[@ironmaidens6663]

@@jonathanparle8429 Not everyone's got the luxury of doing so.

[@leondyson3682]

I'm 62. I can't face working for another 5 years.

[@pennywallace9362]

So many of us have already been forced to retire at 66.5 let alone 67 and especially those woo have laboured hard all those years. Even harder to get a job if you're looking fit one over 50

[@infidel202]

Yes despite our experience employers don't want us so we end up on unemployment benefits until we can retire, you would think this would occur to Jimmy chalmers seeing as he is supposed to understand financial matters

[@gordonwells1626]

Not everyone has to wait until 67….if a worker wants to budget and prioritise saving and spending and keep outgoings under income levels, go without luxuries, there is every probability that person will be financially able to retire early and self fund for a period prior to being able to access the Aged Pension. I think this approach makes real sense. As a worker I can attest that something very tangible happens to men once they go past 60….mental and physical capacity definitely goes into noticeable decline. At 40 plan on retiring early and make it a 20 year financial and lifestyle goal. Work towards that rather than living for today and having to work until 67 at least.

[@TheSmittenman]

People need to start planning for this at 20, and remember the cost of divorce, and that drain on your pension fund. This might start explaining the dropping birth rate as men realise that the whole system is against them if they work

[@MrBrowne86]

And in better news I now can’t save stuff all with inflation going through the roof.

[@HansCoche]

Retirement age should depend on the job you do.

[@paulchilds9137]

Really dont like this highly aggressive melbourne trio of commentators. Yuk.

[@johnkauppi7078]

Retirement age should also factor in what a person has done for a living, doing hard physical work makes a body break down earlier than say an office worker,who physical effort is very light.

[@kidsoxoxox]

DON'T GET MARRIED OR START A FAMILY. NO WIFE, HAPPY LIFE AND RETIRE EARLY. Sounds like bad life planning to me. Doing stupid things like getting married/divorce and not saving and investing hard. I retired permanently at 48 and that was old enough for me.

[@infidel202]

If you can't afford to pay the mortgage or rent and costs of living are almost impossible to meet why would you consider having children that you can't afford to pay for, has the government considered this when they ask why Australians are not having children

[@philiprachtman1217]

I can offer myself to help the Australian population grow

[@hterrin]

Give it 10 years and there will no longer be a pension to retire with. Good luck expecting new generations to support social security the fertility rate has halved since the 70’s.

[@ShaneChiswick]

I think you are right. If you have nothing you might get something but if you own a home - I bet the govt will offer you a reverse mortgage.

[@johnjerman3421]

it's feasible to the government since the higher the age of retirement the fewer people who ended up collecting thus the government can use and abuse more of the retirement funds

[@lesleygeorge7958]

I'm not sure what we're talking about. Having been boen in 1957 my retirement age has been 67 for years. Who is this change affecting?

[@madelinedelacruz9980]

Your retirement age is 66 people born after 1960 is 67

[@info88w11]

THATS WHY EUTHANASIA HAS BEEN LEGISLATED IF THE PAIN IS TOO GREAT TAKE THAT OPTION TO END IT WELL BEFORE OLD AGE THEN YOUR PENSION CAN BE REDISTRIBUTED BY ALBO TO SOME UNDESERVING BOAT_ARRIVAL ILLEGAL REFUGEE

[@hterrin]

Well said

[@kelly78688]

I will be taking myself out by 50-55yrs old, not necessarily by euthanasia. Life is not really worth it after that.. die before you lose your mind and able body, we suffer enough through life without having to suffer at the end.. looks like we are going to be forced to suffer a bit more 🙁

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

Yup! The way this now unlucky county going, I’m all for exit!

[@debrashawcross170]

Kevin Rudd linked to John Podesta. Julia Gillard linked to Tony Podesta

[@FarmingUnclear]

Work longer, wage slaves. This is happening all around the world and after WEF. There are no coincidences.

[@chrisdangerfield7233]

Political pensions should be tied to the aged pension that way people that have had a ride through their work life might make decisions about working people that are relevant to reality.

[@Leo-vk6qm]

Put more of your income aside for retirement! The nation's about to go bankrupt anyway so they'll probably abolish the pension soon...lol

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

And when the country goes bankrupt, poof goes ya pension/super!

[@peteormond2828]

How about they make the politicians only get to access their super at the same age as the REAL working Australians, instead of being able to retire in their early / late thirties or so on a pollies pension after only EIGHT YEARS in parliament PLUS a resettlement allowance of over 100,000 dollars !

[@92haydo92]

Pay more than enough in various taxes, thats at least 40-50 years of working and paying income taxes that whole time. 65 is already an ask let alone 67, nearly 70! Not the right call, not australian at all, give some taxes back for once

[@rosella3966]

Narrative: Live at home or in share houses until you are 30 to avoid paying exorbitant rent. A home is now 12 x the medium income. Also. Narrative: Why aren't young people having children?

[@timandjacquinicklin9596]

It may be fine for office dwellers, however just give a thought to all those manual workers . Semper viratus Tim

[@donnlowel2387]

We all would like to retire at 65. Those people who work in government can retire early because they get incentives, specially sitting in the government.

[@josa9902]

Make it personal choice when to retire. But you get the pension when you retire after 66. Pensioners that work would pay extra tax.Would have to be a win win. They do it in New Zealand.

[@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc]

Not as if employment itself is an issue....

[@terryhesticles311]

I see Benny Hill on the panel

[@tonybennett638]

Most people are useless to a boss after 60 years of age... Im 67 now .

[@vernonwhite4660]

On a plumbers income I would not have thought they would need a pension

[@philiprachtman1217]

People my age 60 to 70YO had the best times financially. If you purchased shares through the floats you should have enough to be self retired. I did not buy a new car ever I did not travel OS each year. Now at 60 I am happy retired and not using my super

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Were not the immingrants brought under the assumption of helping with retirements?

[@elliskaranikolaou2550]

Bingo, YES.

[@infidel202]

The decisions you make at 16 as an apprentice are made with your immediate future in mind you are not thinking about when you are 67 that is a lifetime away and for these reasons why 16 year olds should not be allowed to vote, the reason labor wants you to retire older is so they can control your superannuation and not have to pay you for the taxes you pay towards your retirement, retirement is build into taxation paid each week from your wages, not so long ago 55 was the retirement age

[@schreehowarth9936]

You most well make it 100...moving the goal post.. again.. the government just don't want to pay the pension..

[@debrashawcross170]

Govt giving each other 9K payrise

[@xpress7578]

Should be put back to 65 so others can have jobs. This should be referendum no the VOICE.

[@BuckJoFiden]

None of these shiny ass serial bludgers that make these decisions would last till smoko working with me. Weak men make hard times.

[@gizellahomer8060]

Easy to agree with the rising retirement age when you are sitting on your backside in a comfy chair supposedly working. Give a try to do some real work! Politicians should also give it a go say…..for 30-40 years than we’ll talk again.

[@GrandpaVince]

Vince has been working the old dingo forge since the days of good old genghis khan and you dont hear vince whining abour retirement.

[@jackb5708]

There's always the dole. It's a lot less but it's something.

[@micphoenix8200]

Just work harder & longer Goy....then you'll get ahead...😂

[@timothyslaughter476]

That or another covid 19......you choose!!!!

[@rickzw67]

Well somehow the governemnt needs to fund all its promises….. NDIS. VOICE PENSION HEALTH SINGLE MUM. COVID PAYMENTS. ….. The list goes on and on and on