Archaeogenetics says The Bharatiya are One People | Satya Samvad EP 18

[@RishanVSanghi]

उत्तरं यत् समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् | वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र सन्ततिः || (विष्णु पुराण २.३.१) Thank you Shindeji for emphasizing that we are one Rashtra! We may have diversity today, of language and states, but we are basically one. Even our philosophy in the Upanishads talks of oneness. Britishers gave us divide and rule. We should now have unite and prosper.

[@nrusimha11]

Love your use of language. We are the Bharatiya - all people who originated in the south of the Himalayas are. There are various religions, but all are united by one cultural, and optionally even genetic, identity.

[@jasonvoorheese666]

Tell your friend to keep the questions simple ! 😁

[@billyhorton2274]

Why do we have to mention religion when there are talks on Harrappan civilization which is at least 2500BC or 4500 years ago when there were religions we have from west Asia ( Jerusalem & Mecca). There was ONLY DHARM known as SATYA SANATAN VEDIC HINDU DHARM. So lets stop being oxymorons or terribly apologetic please for once!!!

[@jasonvoorheese666]

@@billyhorton2274 the truly oldest religions on the earth are hinduism and jewism ! The others like islam came midway as one person's ambition and it will go midway !

[@paulthomas281]

@nrusimha11 It is pointless to ponder over "genetic identity". The civilisation is what matters. And so, yes, there is one bhāratīya civilisation. And Sunni Islam and communism need to removed from it.

[@indranidutta1945]

There is only sanatana dharma in bharat

[@LopamudraShastry]

I enjoyed this! As much as I believe in unity in diversity, we must also know our oneness. We are one people indeed!

[@akshay.sharma89]

It's amazing how one conversation has caused so much buzz! The little I understood I thought the discussion was about how DNA can be extracted, how our genetic makeup has persisted and research published in Cell and Science, with a few extra questions on the side. If there are any issues with what was discussed, I'm sure Infinity and Mrittunjoyji would be happy to follow up!

[@seanbellfort2298]

🎉🎉🎉🇮🇳❤🕉️🎉🎉🎉 Fasinating and enriching insights. Thank you. Jai Hind. Jai Sri Ram. 🙏

[@girishbansal970]

Excellent presentation

[@avinashcsharma7157]

VERY GOOD & USEFUL WORK; 🌹

[@user-mw7kn9ft7v]

Thankkkk you sssoo muccchhh ... Such an excellent knowledgeable session

[@Haveagodday-w8m]

Excellent discussion 👏

[@vanhannu]

Nice session.

[@rahul4852]

Sir, I m currently studying in 1st year of iit jammu and we had our English test and there a passage was given on climate change and In that in last line they wrote about activist arundati Roy how is she seriously concerned about climate change. She's the same arundati Roy who was banned a month ago under UAPA. I don't know how did iit professor mentioned her name . Especially in an institute where which is located in jammu. And she was also the one said j&k is not part of ur country. I hv the photograph of that passage. Pls make a vid on that

[@AnirudhaChiplankur]

Loved it!

[@AnupamDeoArya]

I really want these conversations to be recorded with high-quality audio (more importantly) and video. There are tools now available to get your audio stream converted to near podcast levels even with a mediocre audio stream.

[@dreamsdesires]

Can you name some of the tools?

[@AnupamDeoArya]

@@dreamsdesires Adobe podcast is one. Even with a quick Google search you will get a couple of them. Also if you are using Adobe or Filmora for video editing ...it now has built audio cleaners.

[@sankalp3513]

A true stalwart and genuine knowledge creators. We need more young students to take his research forward instead of every single one just being another software engineer. We can blame the British for splitting our society over fake anthropology, but we can't blame them for soIndians continuing up believe this after we have had our own education system for 77 years.

[@user-mw7kn9ft7v]

Sir, why do you keep saying south asia . Shri Rajiv Malhotra ji days this is also loss of our identity.. why not continue Indian sub continent... or they soo change the name of Indian Ocean to south asian ocean

[@deepakkumr]

They should say southern part of India.

[@SiddharthBachus]

Please add subtitles .

[@Divine_wave23]

Infact Haplogroup h is present in all indians and soread agriculture into europe ,mesopotamia ,iran etc .this is indeniable proof

[@poojagupta2588]

जय श्री राम 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@iuvvuiieii]

Diversity in genetics, ensures himan continuity by natural laws as opposed to continuity and commonness suggested here.

[@anandtiwari52]

Shorts be made. Thanks.

[@dayalb1]

Around the 41 mins mark Prof Shinde hypothesized that Harappan civilization (Sindhu- Saraswati civilization) probably used early Sanskrit though there is no evidence.. but Dr. Steven Bonta (PhD Cornell U) in his ‘Partial Decipherment of IV Script…’ “suggests very strongly that the predominant language of the Indus inscriptions is an early form of Sanskrit”

[@traps-vari4533]

Sanskrit and vedic ideologies came into ancient India after the decline of IVC and it coincided with the immigrants of ancient Iran. Ancient Iranian history shares language and vedic ideologies that these immigrants brought.

[@sudhayerbagker7395]

🙏🙏🙏

[@prashobh216]

21:00------ N and S Indians have the same gene 36:00 -----OIT proved

[@KonragTheDestroyer]

OIT is baseless and absolutely has zero evidence to suggest it ever happened. North Indians and South Indians are genetically different

[@extemporaneous4545]

The bare fact of the matter is that human beings are visual creatures, and if one lot looks different from another lot, they're separate races for the purposes of day to day interactions. On top of this there are separate language, food and culture. These are the things that make people make the decision that you're separate from me. Not all the genetic studies in the world is going to convince anyone otherwise. If Indians can't speak the same language, if North and South need English to communicate, if one side is black and the other side brown or whitish, they're separate cultures, which means separate races in real, actual, lived experience.

[@adg1234100]

Some assume leprosy was relevant in Harappa- comments?

[@adg1234100]

Epidemics in Harappan time? Can that explain mass extinction?

[@Divine_wave23]

Harappan ancestry is the single largest source of indian population today ( except north-east ,have east asian ancestry) . Where is extinction? There is continuity .

[@montuedge]

Commenting for better reach 😅

[@iuvvuiieii]

The Indus Valley was an indigenous urban civilization, highly developed and sophisticated with international trade and influence. The discourse appears to contradict present commonly accepted universal knowhow interesting that Steppe ancestry, AASI, ANI,, Andamanese, Iranian hunter gatherer, east asian etc genetics all represented on indian subcontinent A Jat with Steppe ancestry looks unique unlike any other people. Blind hypothesis. South India is the continuation of the IVC .

[@nrusimha11]

"Sir, why do you keep saying south asia . Shri Rajiv Malhotra ji days this is also loss of our identity.. why not continue Indian sub continent... or they soo change the name of Indian Ocean to south asian ocean"

[@Mksmoody]

Should he directly bharatians and vedic hindus or northern ancestral hindi speakers ? Both Rajiv and shinde are just jingoists

[@samspade2657]

The idea of an egalitarian society based on the lack of monumental structures in Harrapan culture is not convincing. Why? In Vastu sastra it is stated that only Devalayas were to be made of stone for everyone else including Kings they were to be made of wood. Wood deteriorates and will not be preserved. Plus who is going to make a monumental structure from wood. If I recall correctly Megastenes reported that Pataliputra was made entirely of wood. So I would not be so quick to jump to this conclusion of egalitarian culture based on lack of monumental architecture. Then again when we look at modern egalitarian cultures they have monumental architecture in the shape of legislature assemblies, Statue of Liberty, presidential palaces etc.

[@divakar643]

The title itself is totally wrong. The Bharathiya are not one genotype people. They are distributed over a wide genetic spectrum ranging from pure Indo-Aryan(probably non-existent now) to pure Dravidians(which is present only in the hilly tribes). All the other Bharathitas' are a mixture of both Indo-Aryan and Dravidian genotypes depending on the extent of inter-breeding between these two distinct genotypes. Present day Bharathiyas can be classified into the following major groups. Non-interbred groups(exist only with Dravidian tribal people), most inter-bred group ( constituting to about 20-30%), moderately inter-bred groups(upto 50% ), and finally Sparsely interbred Groups ( about20-30%). Mohenjo-Daro Harappan civilisation should be much older than 5000 years and the language is Tamil and not any form of Sanskrit. Indo-Aryans did not enter enter India until 3900-1700 BCE as per the Equinoxes Precession corresponding to the time of Indo-Aryans Hemantha Vruthu celebrations at which time Spring season was in the Margasira month (Three Migrations and Three Invasions, Xulon Press).

[@indranidutta1945]

So you are from Romila Thapar irfan Habib school-⁉️😝

[@KonragTheDestroyer]

​@@indranidutta1945Truth hurts. Forensics, Linguistic, Genetic analysis and common cultural patterns reveal the migration of several groups into India such as Australoid Adivasi aboriginal tribes, Dravidian Elamites from Iran, Neolithic Zagrosian Farmers, Yamnaya Steppe Indo Iranian Aryan Pastoralists from Central Asia, Tibeto-Burmese, Austro-Asiatics etc all mixing together to form modern day Indians. Sanskrit as a language is closer to Russian, Latvian, Lithuanian than it is to Tamil or Telugu nearby. Indians share the same skull shape as Arabs, North Africans, Iranians, Europeans of the Caucasoid branch. Don't dwell in denial delusional hindutva rw fanatic.

[@keeya_ks]

Absolute nonsense

[@divakar643]

@@indranidutta1945 So you are from a school that creates false history to keep people in ignorance and thereby prevents them from realising their identity as happening since 2200 years. I belong to the school of truth however unplalatable that might be.

[@divakar643]

@@indranidutta1945 So You belong to a school that falsifies history to keep people under ignorance so that it can control the population and thereby suppressing the identity of the indigenous population that entered India betweeen 80000-20000 years ago. I belong to the school of truth however unpalatable that might be.

[@traps-vari4533]

Why is it so difficult for the guest here to speak archeological facts without mixing up with irrelevant topics? When an experts makes contradictory statements, nobody is going to trust him and he just makes mockery of himself. Archaeological topics should be dealt as it is. If some experts are afraid of stirring up division in the country then work on it it instead of making a mockery of Archeology. Quote -- "Modern Indian People Look like Harappans" --- really??? This should be a headline news globally. This expert has evidence that suggests how Harappans looked like (Sarcasm). One can see how uncomfortable he is communicating archeological facts, rather diverting the discussion to promoting unity. Any person with common sense can see through it. You are making a disservice by choosing a particular name "bharatas" who were a migrating tribe from ancient Iran. The name Bharata is of Indo-Aryan and Indo-Iranian origin, meaning "bearers" or "carriers". When "Bharatas" reached ancient India, they came into contact with ancient indigenous people of India, who were considered to be the descendents of Harappans and IVC. So "Bharatas" are not the descendents of IVC. They rather mixed up with the local descendents of Harappans. But "Bharatas" were not the only tribe migrating into India and mixing up with the indigenous people of ancient India. There were many waves and many conflicts occurred.

[@mikesheth5370]

Yes no one ever migrated to India in last 5000 years! And no one ever left as migrant or warriors or on student visa! We all look alike! We are carbon copy of each other! North to south East to West! This started from day ne when Rigveda was composed! Every one has same parentage! All dark skin??

[@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg]

So, kashmiris also dark skinned ?

[@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg]

No ghori, no gazni, no babar attacked india ?

[@RajPaulSeattle]

All western, rather Imdian and nonIndian, history books need to rewritten soon. Best done by UN Heritage platform

[@divakar643]

Mitochondrial DNA comes from the mother. Both mitochondrial DNA and Haplo Y DNA (from father) of Dravidian population shows that they have both West Asian (L type) and Central Asian Pastoral (M type) genes. For example M2b2 of many South Indian Dravidian Women indicate a variant that emerged through mutation in the Central Asian Pastoral lands around 25000 years ago.L type genes came from West Asia 80000 years ago. There is no such thing as distinct Ancestral North Indian and Ancestral South Indian population. We are a population of three Genotypes/Phenotypes. Upper Caste-Upper Class population corresponding to about 20% of the Indian population possess Indo-Aryan genes to a higher degree in different proportions. Another 40-50% population possess prodominant Dravidian and a very less extent of Indo-Aryan genes. The remaining 30% population contain Dravidian genes and may not contain Indo-Aryan gene at all. All Indians possess Homo Neanderthalensis gene variants ranging from 100- 7400. A measure of this gene variant can definitely help in genetically clasifying Indian population (Three Migration and Three Invasions, Xulon Press).

[@saliksayyar9793]

Not at all. Where do you get your science? From Hibdutva myths?

[@truthreal3378]

Remain in darkness

[@truthreal3378]

AndhPerokar, stop Iying like an AndhJihaadi.

[@truthreal3378]

No one is interested in your MahaMad's lsIamec Myths.

[@truthreal3378]

Earth is shakeen and sapat. lol Keep ur science to yourself.

[@truthreal3378]

AndhJehaadi

[@Mksmoody]

This guy is a pseudo academic and infamously known to contradict his own findings that he published with david reich and his own statements in the old interviews. He kept the Rakigarh findings under the rugs for years. From what he says, harrapans going out is not a big deal. But he cleverly hides at what time chronology they went is the critical question. But, Aryans coming inside the subcontinent is an important subject. It is insane to imply that harrapans are aryans 😅. He presents a different version of archeogenetics history to the North indian crowd to feed their obsessions, but published exactly opposite views and supportive of aryan migration, with david reich. He couldn't cheat the peer review system. Now, the government stopped the collaboration with harvard so that they could manipulate the dna samples and data narrative as the bjp and rss wanted. He will be abandoned soon like n.s rajaram.

[@Divine_wave23]

Havard ? It is a leftist institution. Yes he is wrong because you are a leftist pappu believer who don't believe truth. Harappans are single largest source of population for all living in india today except northeast. Now you pappu supporter won't believe it 😂 so I myself being from south telugu who used to believe in this theory now changed my mind because of proper education. Now it's time for you and pappu italian vinci .why he not conducted genetic research till bjp came ? Pappu scared that we will find out he is italian and iranian .

[@Divine_wave23]

David reich is a leftist 😂 he is politically motivated 😂 you believe him?😂 lololol

[@Divine_wave23]

So you mean leftist ideology scholars are correct and right wing are wrong?😂 this is bias.

[@Divine_wave23]

Going out is definitely a big deal .they are going out to invade your david reich land and give him language 😂 lol

[@prashobh216]

His name is in your face, "The Third Reich." By some insanity in their thinking, these extreme leftist must advertise their real nature.

[@MahaLakshmi-vq4hy]

Really, bharathiya are one people from archeology, then how it divided many varnas and jaathis, suth and asuth jaathis? All are one in what meaning? And caste, varnas, low and upper caste and discrimination are in which way ? How some people near and dear of God, and are only could do and speak on behalf of God? India as nation till today following the very bad backward moral in the name of God and Vedas, puranas? What is the Research and Development department doing?

[@lakshmiv1662]

Bharatiyas are one people based on gene type. There is no Aryan invasion theory. Varna and Jati are not based on gene type but based on occupation. There is no high or low based on our shastras. Caste was created and organized into high and low by the British so that we Indian can fight with each other.

[@gangadharhiremath7306]

You are starting with bombastic words with little meaning and introducing a dubious professor who is privy to most important archaeogenetic research in India but still he talks exactly opposite of what he has seen through research. Are today's Indians genetically as homogenous as say,the han Chinese or Europians or Central Africans? The Answer is a big NO. Was India genetically homogenous 3500 years ago? ABSOLUTELY NO. Was India genetically homogenous 2000 years ago? DEFENITELY NOT. Is it today? NO. And,what has "Bharateeya" to do with archaeogenetics? *Prof.Shindhe is deceiving himself and Indian ppl.Dishonesty and* *political expediency has no place in academic circle.*