Ralfi's Alley - VirPil WarBRD Base and T-50 Grip Review

[@ralfidude]

Slight correction: The bottom left HAT is an 8 way HAT not a 4 way HAT. Also, I know that the Russian style systems use the Big red button on the top left as the autopilot disengage. Not everybody is going to map it that way, not everybody is going to use this grip for Russian planes only. It's my missile launch button. Sue me.

[@czdaniel1]

Big red button of Peace...Could make great _PUSH-To-TALK_ mic button, assuming the circuit logic allows that functionality

[@DD-sw1dd]

@@czdaniel1 with the Virpil software you can pretty much do anything. Even turn an axis into a button press.

[@Asghaad]

i dont know why this landed in my recommended right now but anyway one major flaw i can see in this review is the lack of specification on the sensors used. Recommending this over Warthog base when it very much looks like the old potentiometer mechanical sensor system instead of the magentic HAL sensors in the WHog is very VERY iffy... because exchanging durability and precision of HAL for general pots that are much less precise to begin with and will loose theyr precision over time even more and are major points of failure ... is kinda a BIG deal ... and absolute dealbreaker for anyone ... on top of that the oscillation from the stick is horrible flaw that should be a dealbreaker, not something to sweep under the rug as "not a problem" ...

[@jaromirandel543]

Just a note: This is an outdated version of Virpil stick. They have the new one, where the thumb button is exchanged by 5-way hat and the all other hats are "depressable" now. The "secure" switch now has digital output for secured/armed position. BTW my most favourite CAMs are those without center detent.

[@ralfidude]

I mention the new stuff at the very end if you payed attention, hint hint! ;)

[@Jagerbomber]

My other joystick is already at a slight angle, so this is good.

[@airviator9194]

Understandable have a great day

[@ksldfhjlkdsj]

Really appreciate the review dude. You are very concise and informative and shoot a really clean video!

[@ismaeljordaVR]

Thanks for the review, Ralfi. Nice pic at 2:51 btw. Honored that you use my photos in your videos. Cheers!

[@Nick-dw7sd]

The reason why you have a gun trigger and a two stage trigger is because the "red button of peace through superior firepower" is the AP disengage on russian systems with the 2 stage always being weapon release. Always thought a heavy trigger pull was more satisfying than a measly button press Edit : Your reviews are always great , hope you do more .

[@ralfidude]

Just because it's a Russian style grip doesn't mean people will make their controls in the same manner as well, nor that they will be flying only Russian style planes.

[@Nick-dw7sd]

@@ralfidude What I wanted was to explain why you have both a two stage trigger and a gun trigger on this russian style grip. C'mon Ralfi , whats with the copy paste ?

[@ralfidude]

@@Nick-dw7sd because you're typing this like i don't know or have never flown any Russian aircraft in DCS that have this sort of key layout.

[@Nick-dw7sd]

@@ralfidude I had the impression you didn't ( until now ). Can't know what you know or don't know. My bad then I guess.

[@flighttherapybullisticfpv133]

Man the difference between "light and day" really sets off the contrast hahaha thanks Ralfi

[@Bonehead321123]

My brain says yes but my wallet says no...

[@jameshart5504]

My bank doesn't like me anymore... I'm gonna finance it

[@McGregor43]

My brain and wallet say yes but my patience for Virpil to restock it says no.

[@andreaskalaitzakis5688]

Heart says yes, bank says.. marginally ok, brain says don't even try to explain to girlfriend after buying rx 5700 xt :)

[@maean7410]

if you still want a mechanical stick, you could always get a vkb gladiator nxt premium

[@Sunesen]

I use the WarBRD with a 10cm extension and the Warthog grip on top and that feels sooo good. All curve setups go right out the window. An extension gives you so much fine control, it's like night and day. Downside is that it pretty much requires something that is not a desk setup.

[@veeaa]

How is the throw/range of motion of the base with the extension? I know that WarBRD has much more throw compared to the T-50. Does WarBRD with an extension create clearance issues with your legs, desk etc?

[@Sunesen]

@@veeaa I guess it comes down to what kind of setup you are using. I'm using one of these Wheel Stand Pro that was made for the Warthog: www.wheelstandpro.com/products/wheel-stand-pro/for-thrustmaster-hotas-warthog-saitek-x-55-x52-pro-x65 The plate the Warthog is mounted on doesn't support the WarBRD natively, but thats nothing a litle metal drill bit couldn't fix. :P Basically I've set the plate with the WarBRD base so it's just below my thigh height. With the extension on, it pretty much lets me rest my elbow on my thigh, while gripping the stick. This means that there is no conflicts between the sticks range of motion and any of my body parts.

[@DesertRosePro]

Appreciate your detailed and honest reviews. Definitely the most comprehensive and well rounded comparison I've seen so far.

[@TheCort1971]

just picked up a set of warbrd bases with constellation grips for star citizen. been running dual thrustmaster t16k for a couple of years now. its going to be one hell of an upgrade

[@steffennilsen2132]

I ended up buying this setup after watching this video + the Virpil CM3 throttle and ace interceptor rudder pedals. Extremely satisfied with it and leagues beyond my old G940 setup. The changeable cam and spring setup made it very easy to customize, which was necessary for the pedals as it was far too sensitive for me with the base light spring.

[@W4lkerWings]

I've had the same base & handle as this for 6 months now & haven't changed anything out. I completely agree with everything you've said here Ralfi & although I can't comment on the frustration of changing cams as I've not tried it, I'd suggest holding the gimbal in a hobby vice (vise) ;) in future. I upgraded from a very badly worn Cougar & still use the handle on the WarBRD base, a most useful feature. Upgrading to this really transformed my flying. AAR, formations & just putting the thing on the thing are all easier with this setup. Initially I also missed the CMS hat & I see it's been added to the new version, so clearly that's something lots of users agree upon. However I think it's worth mentioning that overall there are more buttons on the T50 handle than a Warthog so you won't lose any functionality, but will need to re-learn some functions. All I have to add to what you said is 1 minor button layout nitpick about the left hat switch that often gets knocked when I move my thumb from it's natural rest position to the centre hats. Also you omitted to point out that the 'brake' lever also has a button press function as well as the axis response. Other than that, a great review. Better late than never.

[@CaseyBartley]

The grip shown in this video is discontinued, the following list of grips have been discontinued: The right hand MT50, MT50CM, and MT50 BE. The following grips are in production: RH MT50CM2, LH MT50 BE, Constellation Delta (ambidextrous), WarBRD (RH with twist, short grip for desktop use). There will be additional grips as the year progresses, with the next one being the V.F.X. which is the F14 grip. The following base is discontinued: MT50. Production bases: WarBRD (long throw desktop), MT50CM (short throw designed for extensions and deskmount).

[@nonegone7170]

i really REALLY like VirPil's MO, they seem to be one of the few genuine companies that care about their customer satisfaction, and really take into account the user feedback, i'm very interested in what products they develop next and sincerely hope they're here to stay!

[@DFX2KX]

Hats off to them for making a left-handed grip. Elite/Star Citizen/Starfighter Inc players using twin sticks have been stuck with the t16k forever.

[@TheSkipjack95]

You can tell that ralfi is not used to the eastern way of life, that red button is actually the AP off button ;)

[@jackal1743]

I thought the grey one on the right was for AP on/off

[@rossmum]

@Jackal 1 That's the panic button, to automatically recover and level the aircraft. Big red is your master autopilot cancel. The funky flip trigger is your yeet switch.

[@-Zombler]

Yeah and the trigger is the AP on lol

[@beny874]

@@rossmum Necro thread but I am very curious. So for the Russians. Red button is the AP disconnect. Black button is the panic/spin recovery. The standard trigger is the AP Master. And the flip down trigger is your safety and weapon release? Have I got that right? That is indeed fascinating.

[@JAnx01]

What is AP?

[@deadshot4245]

Any height advantage gives you more possible control especially refueling in air or formation flying but I wouldn’t recommend to desk mount any of those not even the warthog

[@Luki82]

Any thing with BRD logo is pure magic! There is no better gimbal type.

[@jackal1743]

All of the slew controls are supposed on the throttle. As the main hat in the center is for your trim and the right grey button is for Auto pilot toggle

[@ralfidude]

What are you on about?

[@jackal1743]

@@ralfidude I was just commenting on how eastern joysticks differentiate compared to what we are used to. Along with the fact that Russian fighter planes have all of their telemetry on the glass, it's a rather strange transition if one is used to NATO jets. Everything we are accustomed to is reversed in foreign planes.

[@ralfidude]

@@jackal1743 Ah, in regards to that, yes. But that doesn't mean you should get this stick and only organize it in an Eastern way. Everything goes! :)

[@TheDragonfly256]

I wrote a post on forums, and Im in contact, about possibility of an upgrade of existing throttles with this new grip component. Also bottom left hat on grip is 8 way. Anyway great review!

[@JohnF0X]

the Spring Cam setup could have been made a lot easier if you could preasamble them on a bracket which then gets mounted to the base itself. Similarly how HK did the Trigger group on the MP5, drop it in as a whole or pull it out as a whole and disasamble seperately from the gun

[@ralfidude]

They revised their design a bit but not for the WarBRD which is a shame. But their future gimbals have a much easier time adjusting these things.

[@MarvinBoydCo]

I know this review is old. After flying in the A10 sim that our ANG pilots use and then going to the warthog from thrustmaster I can confirm that the warthog did feel pretty close to the sim as it took quite a lot of force to move the stick and always felt like it was trying to push me to the center. Was an interesting shock the first few minutes

[@CaseyBartley]

WarBRD also has a grip that is specifically designed for desktop use (WarBRD), and the upcoming F14 grip appears to be as well. MT50 grip was not designed for desktop use, so while yeah I agree with the statement that it's not good for it, I do think talking about the fact it wasn't designed for it is important. Very much like if you would speak about the MT50 and MT50CM bases, which are both also designed for a deskmount only and not desktop, so talking about that as a "negative" is IMO a bad move and misleading as yes in fact they aren't designed for that so yes they suck at it, but excell when on the mount using extensions.... Also Virpil is a very new company, one that is iterating based on consumer feedback, which is why new versions are coming out of their products and the old stuff is getting discontinued. MT50CM base takes direct feedback from cam swapping of both the initial MT50 and WarBRD, for example.

[@nindger4270]

It's a completely reasonable criticism in my opinion. Because you're right, the fact that it wasn't designed for desktop use should be mentioned. Unfortunately, a) the grip was sent out for review with a base for desktop use and b) the old MT50CM description *didn't mention* that it was unsuitable for desktop use, only the newer CM2 has that on the store page (props to them for putting that disclaimer right at the top of the feature list, though!) That being said, most other criticisms seem to have been addressed with the CM2 (the thumb button is a 5-way hat now, for example). Personally, for desktop use as an alternative to the MT-50CM, I think the WarBRD grip is a poor example because it has so much less functionality. The Constellation Alpha due to be released next year is much closer (even though aesthetically, it's more geared towards space sims).

[@victorlacas6649]

1:14 I'm nit-picky but I think 'the big red button of peace through superior firepower" is in fact a autopilot disengage button.

[@ralfidude]

I understand that Russians do it differently, but that doesn't mean everybody is going to do their button layout that way. If you map it that way then so be it, others may not. Stop being nit-picky. You'll enjoy life better that way. (I would know, since I should take my own advice sometimes).

[@victorlacas6649]

@@ralfidude true that, thank you for the advice ^^

[@iridian]

protip for (a lot of problems in life) apply generous amounts of -lube- ballbearinggrease should get rid of the clicking of the trigger and smooth out the centering even more

[@delayed_control]

What Virpil base is missing is damping. VKB mechanical base has nylon damper for that reason

[@quinncide]

If you can order one, which you can’t. As frustrating as Virpil can be, VKB is ten times worse. They can’t stock their components for shit.

[@snotcycle]

@@quinncide VKB has a feature on their site now to get an email when an item is in stock. way better than it was when i bought mine, literally checking the site every day

[@muzzy1500]

I bought the warbrd base and love it matched with my TM Warthog. That being said it was a pain in the ass and super expensive actually getting it. Shipping from eastern Europe is ridiculously priced, their website was almost at a standstill on the restock and you have to be quick and lucky to actually get one in your cart and checked out before they sell out.

[@andyrudeseal6347]

I ordered my base yesterday, shipping ($70ish) and exchange rate really blows...and it'll probably be a month before I get it. Wish they'd hurry up and partner with Amazon.

[@muzzy1500]

@@andyrudeseal6347 I do too. It took about a month to get mine in Texas after placing the order. Good luck and I hope you like it!

[@broworm1]

The PK button is probably used for activating the higher PK rating for your missiles.

[@1SaG]

I wish I could compare the T50 (CM2) directly to my VKB MCGP ... I have a suspicion that I'd still like the VKB better, since I do own the Virpil throttle and am not super excited about some of that thing's hat-switches and how they feel. The hats on the VKB feel a little stiffer / less "mushy" and thus more precise. From what I hear from Virpil stick users, the hats on their grips are also a bit too soft, so ... But never having used the T50, I couldn't tell for sure. And besides: All this is whining on a very high level... that CM3 throttle is still awesome.. :) Plus the fact that the MCG's second trigger and brake lever are made from metal is also a bonus. Still: I am kinda sorta tempted by the new CM3 base. One reason I went with the GF was the fact that it has dampened axes and that's pretty much a must have IMO. But now that Virpil also offer that feature, I can't help but notice that the CM3 looks a lot more beefy and over-built than the Gunfighter. Don't get me wrong: I don't think the GF's gimbal to be weak or anything like that, so added sturdiness would be more of a bonus feature. What really fills me with envy when looking at the CM3 is its ability for on-the-fly adjustments - which the VKB doesn't offer at all. Being able to adjust the clutches on the fly would be a much needed feature on the GF - which you have to take apart pretty damn far (and then partially re-assemble) to be able to adjust those clutches. That and the fact that GF springs will snap on you (that's why the sticks come with plenty of replacement springs) and when that happens you will be required to open the base and disassemble it to put in fresh ones. All that said: While there aren't many GF III vs Virpil bases comparisons out there (and I don't think anyone's done a CM3 vs GF III one yet) ... having read a few, I think my current "envy" of Virpil stick-users is probably a "grass is greener on the other side" type of deal. Both systems have their advantages and drawbacks... not least of which (I would suspect) is the fact that the CM3 is huge when compared to the GF's base. I would probably have to make quite a few adjustments to my setup/seating position to make that thing work for me... :)

[@galactor123]

I suppose this is a weird question as well, but I've always kind of wondered: when shooting guns, people talk about hand and eye sidedness. I almost wonder if that is true with sticks too. I'm a lefty when it comes to writing, but have worked with a right hand mouse and a right hand joystick for so long as to have gotten comfortable with them. But I've always wondered if I'd get better accuracy using my left hand with those things. If anyone happens to study the brain I guess feel free to chime in.

[@Remixception]

Fantastic review as always Ralfi, can't wait for the next one! I LOVE your setup with the shiny keyboard and the two screens by the way.

[@ralfidude]

I love it too, hehe. They are the Thrustmaster MFD cougars btw. Also a BuddyFox UFC on top of my desk. All worthy purchases.

[@Remixception]

@@ralfidude Totally adding those to the Christmas list. Thanks again Ralfi!

[@Steezicus]

So have you been able to try out the Constellation grip with the desk mount? Do you think that looks like it would be suitable for a desk mount player since it looks a fair bit shorter to me than the T-50?

[@Firewalker1988]

Better late than never, thanks for the review! Now, VKB is next? ;-) A comparison between those systems would be great!

[@ralfidude]

I would love to, but VKB has since ceased their emails with me months ago. I assume they are busy as heck, but who knows.

[@DD-sw1dd]

If you mount the Warthog grip to the Warbird base do you still have access to ALL the Warthog’s buttons? Including the CMS down button? The lack of a 5-way hat on the Virpil grips makes me wonder if the base is compatible with them.

[@ralfidude]

Yup, works just fine. It's my current setup.

[@DD-sw1dd]

ralfidude Thanks. Definitely my next purchase.

[@michaelrockford6449]

I'd love to try it but they are never in stock so I'll stick with the x56 for now

[@divineintervention6318]

Already pre-purchased and still waiting for it. Polan!

[@billstanden]

Is the stock profile cam perhaps trying to emulate the “push to override” the Russian fighters have on their AoA limiters?

[@moustaxx_7390]

Someone know how can I connecto my other joystick to DCS, and how can I map buttons in it, thx

[@argus3091]

Do you no longer use the thrust master warthog throttle?

[@sentinal-1-197]

hey ralfi if i might ask is there a rudder axis for the cm2 grip?

[@JustSomeGuyWithaHouse]

Have you done a video showing how you've mounted everything? I want to set things up so I can put it away when I'm not flying so it's not entierly mounted and need inspiration. ^^

[@ralfidude]

Not really. It's not pretty and it helps when you have a table to put stuff on when you're done.

[@JustSomeGuyWithaHouse]

@@ralfidude Do you find the table mounts to be a necessity or just a pleasant convenience? Asking since the gear might slide/tilt/move if you're jerking it around too hard.

[@aaronth07]

You should review some VKB products!

[@bostbosti2844]

I just bought the Thrustmasters warthog system. Now that I watched your video think about sending the warthog bundle back and getting the VirPil System. Could you give me your opinion what I should do?

[@ralfidude]

The Thrustmaster Warhot HOTAS is a great HOTAS to be sure. Just get the SLEW SENSOR upgrade for it (google it) and it's worth it.

[@bostbosti2844]

@@ralfidude Hey Ralfi, thanks for your opinion. I recently found out about the "sticky" problem with the HOTAS stick base. I will stick with the HOTAS system but I will buy the BRB Base for my stick. Thank you!

[@Wrootplonk]

Well, now I'm even more on the fence about which set to get. I'd love to get the Virpil-set, but....the cost.. I wonder what the going rate of kidneys are at this time. Hmm, may have to look into that :P

[@skatterpro]

TM warthog or Virpil? I haven't tried the Virpil, but I can assure you that the Warthog does not disappoint. Still, don't use it on a desk, that shit is painful.

[@CaseyBartley]

I have the Warthog base, MT50 base, and WarBRD base as well as the Hog grip, MT50CM grip and Delta grip. By far the best combination for my self is a desk mount MT50 base + MT50 grip with a 100mm extension. WarBRD base IS night and day better than the Hog base. It's not even close. As far as price, you can get the WarBRD base + WarBRD grip and it's combination is the best optimized in the Virpil ecosystem for desktop use. MT50 grip is not designed for desktop use as it was designed with the original MT50 base and extensions in mind with a desk mount.

[@argus3091]

ralfi if you havent looked on virpils website they remodeled the MongoosT-50 its has a propper slew sensor now!

[@ralfidude]

Thanks, but I mentioned the new throttle in this review.

[@andir2185]

do you still need rudder pedals? or is there a good option on the stick or the throttle

[@nyandyn]

What you complained about at 11:22 is you being used to the heavy centering action in TM Warthog. It takes about two weeks to unlearn your old habits.

[@ralfidude]

I literally mentioned that it takes a bit of practice to get around it no more than 20-30 seconds later.

[@ksldfhjlkdsj]

Hey, have you ever messed around with any good Force Feedback options that you'd consider reviewing? I know the good ones are all older now, but it seems like a rad thing to have especially for more historical sim games

[@ralfidude]

Sadly I've never tried any.

[@lw8249]

Wonderful. I was just looking for a Mig29 HOTAS style.

[@Maximususs]

All real aircraft sticks/yokes/pedals have a physical center position. Although smooth, it's still very much present. Also, the harder you push or pull the stick, the heavier it becomes, which makes the higher profile gimble more desirable

[@skatterpro]

Except for the fact that there is no force feedback, so this is completely devoid of dynamics. The resistance is irrelevant to stick throw, but depends on the actual forces exerted on the plane. Just because there's resistance, as there is resistance in a real plane, doesn't make it better. Frankly, it makes your stick less precise, while in a real plane, the dynamic resistance does the opposite.

[@Maximususs]

GurktheBrutal GurktheBrutal GurktheBrutal while it's completely true for conventional aircraft, the fly by wire ones don't have that dynamic force acting on the stick. For that exact reason manufacturers make an artificial resistance on the stick (I'll be speaking about the A320 since that is what I fly IRL, but I've heard that the same principle is applicable for most fly by wire aircraft, F-18 included). The stick is relatively light close to its center position (while still being much heavier than most desktop joysticks on the market), and gets progressively heavier as you deflect it more towards the end of its travel (and when I say heavy - I really mean quite heavy). All this doesn't make it less precise, but in fact makes it more informative and satisfying to use. Obviously you don't need to have such forces in a desktop simulation but I think, at least some sort of resemblance is very desirable. It's just my opinion though, everyone's taste is different.

[@TsvetanVR]

Brilliant review! (And I've watched many...too many so far)

[@nobanmepls3291]

Does this thing have a Z axis?

[@jbtt42]

Nice video! What's the music at 6:26? ^^

[@Xeroen]

I'm waiting on delivery of a WarBRD to replace my Warthog base, would you say the standard springs are sufficient for the Warthog grip or would you reccomend the strong springs for it?

[@czdaniel1]

@2:48 -- *Hey. I learned something NEW today!* Finally!! -- 2:48

[@dfurtman]

Does the Warbrd base come with alternate cams or do you have to buy them? Virpil has a cam set as an option for purchase. Also, What spring/cam setup did you use for the lighter resistance?

[@ralfidude]

It comes with one set of cams installed, and then you get another set in the box included. I don't remember which one is lighter or harder but you can just test it out to see.

[@CaseyBartley]

The additional cams are for a linear profile. Stock 2 cams are "progressive". Difference being that with linear cams the force required to deflect to the ends does NOT increaase. They are primarily for space games.

[@DelbyDank]

man ive been looking at lots of vids about joystick, from high end to low and every explanation of the feel is "very smooth"

[@TOMCATnbr]

If i connect a virpil stick on my thrustmaster cougar base, will it work perfectly or some button will not be recognise in game ? Thank for the review.

[@ralfidude]

No clue.

[@TOMCATnbr]

@@ralfidude ok thanks

[@gjjyui6346]

Damn I was just watching the other one too. Good timing sir :)

[@MongooseTacticool]

*Whispers reassurance to my HOTAS X* haha one day... one day...

[@corennet.6776]

I wish i could get one of these, but the base price + shipping would kill me lol looks amazing though

[@IDRio]

Nice review! I pressed the like button at 2:10

[@chilledburrito]

6:06 i have the exact same multi tool

[@Rundumsfliegen]

"...Playing with your other Joystick at night when nobody is watching..." XD Dude, i love Your videos!

[@derekarridge23]

Is that a bloody Tachograph chart you're using as a dust cover on the warthog 😂?

[@oldfrend]

what's with the fake MFDs? or do they do something not apparent in the video?

[@ralfidude]

Thrustmaster MFDs

[@WanderfalkeAT]

6:20 - I wouldn't let you change a Tire on my Car, Ralfi!

[@SkyKingSX16]

Hey Ralfidude, do you and the gang still play Elite Dangerous by chance? just curious

[@NONAME-jn9jq]

9:58 Ralfi - complains about switches Me flying on Logitech 3D and keyboard...

[@glaze_tpf9791]

Thrustmaster grips + virpil base and extentions

[@averageaviationgeek9318]

Why is it always out of stock?

[@ralfidude]

They are very popular right now but there's never enough in production. I look at it as a positive thing, although it can be annoying.

[@neovo903]

Has anyone had Virpil reply to a support ticket, or an email, or a reply on twitter, or a reply on facebook, or a reply on the forums?

[@SuperCookiemonser]

My biggest problem is the price. I can get a full Warthog set for 400 euros. The Stick+WarBRD Base+Throttle by virpil would set me back 600 euros. If I get the other mount, it would cost 750 euros. I don't really see why I should pay that much more money, when I can get a Warthog.

[@ebn__]

Warbird vs WinWing?

[@Bane_Diesel]

Is the stick compatible with any vkb sim bases?

[@ralfidude]

That I don't know. I don't own their products.

[@Wikkus]

Nicely objective review, Ralfi. I've honestly been waiting for this as the WarBRD base has been on my wishlist for a very long time. I have a very, very tired TM HOTAS Cougar that I've struggled to maintain in recent years (Google "Trigger's Broom"...) and those nice Virpil folks said I can use my trusty stick with the base. I just need to find the cash now :)

[@josephorr5175]

I wonder if the VirPil WarBRD base would work on a Cougar stick? For some sims, the Cougar works great as it's smaller and I don't need as many buttons. But IMHO the base for the Cougar is what troubles the system as it ages. I too have struggled to keep mine functional.

[@Wikkus]

@@josephorr5175 Virpil told me it will work, which is why I was keen to see a decent review of it.

[@AKATenn]

not the CM2? CM2 has 8 way pov hat and the thumb button is a 4 way hat, and all the hats are also push buttons.

[@ralfidude]

we ain't talking about the CM2, but I mention it at 13:31....

[@WartimeFriction]

Finish the video before commenting, chump

[@AKATenn]

@@ralfidude also the dual stage trigger in my x-52 pro started doing that thing too, took it apart, was a bend in the spring that shouldn't have been there, probly squeezed it too hard, my CM2 stick doesn't... and yeah the oscillations took me a while to get used to too, it still happens a little, big learning curve going from an x-55...

[@The_Burrito]

What the hell desk does Ralfi have? Need a new one.

[@ralfidude]

FREDDE desk from IKEA

[@SuperFrodo95]

That grip is discontinued now. Judging by your review of the throttle, it seemed like you had all this stuff arrive together, why didn’t you review it then when it was still a current model sold by Virpil?

[@oppotato5440]

He had alot of school and wanted to make it as good as possible

[@ralfidude]

I did the throttle, but couldn't finish this one in time. I had to finish graduating and then interviewing for work. That took priority over this by miles.

[@a5cent]

You criticized the force required to rotate the stick (using the default cams) multiple times. Here's why that is exactly what some people want. It's intended for WW2 sims, like IL-2, where human muscles directly moved the aircraft's control surfaces. At high speeds pilots could not even pull the stick all the way in any direction. Wind resistance was simply too great. Nor would pilots have wanted to, as that would very likely have caused a stall. The high resistance simulates those forces. Only rarely, would a pilot ever exert full deflection. That's also true of the accurate WW2 sim. The high resistance you justifiably wouldn't like in a space Sim, is exactly what you want for a WW2 Sim. It's not a bug. It's a feature!

[@schmiddy8433]

Ralfi Reviews are some of my favorite videos of yours and it also just so happens to be on a stick i was thinking about getting as an upgrade from my t16000 combo, sweet

[@julianviefers6703]

whats the eta on next shits and giggles episode? 🤔

[@ralfidude]

When it's ready

[@Xeno426]

2:07 I love that dig.

[@masaaki3429]

Love the review! Amazing job as always. Definitely going to consider the base at least! Looks good for the Huey & gazelle? You also now have to do a video on you’re setup . 😉 last one was 2015?🤔

[@ralfidude]

I haven't flown with a chopper with it, but that's because I'm a fix wing kinda guy. But I hear it works very well with this setup so I'm sure it's great. And maybe I'll do a video on my rig once I move to my new place.

[@masaaki3429]

@@ralfidude im a bit of both! kinda got into choppers from Arma. and the A10c i got into because of you!! haha but i dont really have many hours on DCS like i do Arma sadly. but thats going to change now. raising kids by yourself kinda stops that. but there old enough now soo time to pump them numbers up.hahaha even went and got the TM warthog just because of your training videos on Twitch. anyway hurry up and move!!! and keep up the good work. P.s upload a bit more often! the wait kills us fans ;)

[@OXYOXYOXY444]

best review ever

[@snotcycle]

dang, VKB stick really puts this one to shame. As far as the base, why does virpil need 2 cams to do what vkb does with 1? also, does this gimbal have no dampers/adjustable friction?

[@ralfidude]

they redesigned their system for the future models, but sadly not for the WarBRD

[@czdaniel1]

Dual cams design spreads out the surface area making contact which should reduce the amount of metal-on-metal force causing the cams to warp less physically vs a single-cam design. _(I think. Def not my field of expertise)_

[@krhonn]

My other joystick is a Virpil

[@zulicurah9414]

Suhkoi Superiority!

[@Scoobydcs]

i hear a hint of crash laobe here, is good!!

[@ralfidude]

Who?

[@Scoobydcs]

@@ralfidude dcs you tuber with a vulgar and humorous attitude lol check him out. Ps what other bases do virpil make? And do you plan vkb reviews too?

[@MongooseTacticool]

@@Scoobydcs GFYS ;) He's a funny guy. Quite the guitar player too.

[@Scoobydcs]

@@MongooseTacticool didn't know he played guitar. Gfys

[@MongooseTacticool]

@@Scoobydcs I think he played his intro music... can't be certain though.

[@faelwolf1177]

I see Ralfi has never worked on drum brakes. :) Use a drum brake spring tool, turn that cam swap into a 30 second job.

[@simisg2121]

Nice job bro, how’s tarkov..

[@ralfidude]

killing me softly

[@MongooseTacticool]

@@ralfidude haha I feel you man. After a solid year of playing, I've taken a temporary hiatus from Tarkov to fly some more DCS.

[@KyleP133]

The silly struggle music made me chuckle.

[@burntbrownie5597]

Clean your warthog stick!!! Great vid though!

[@sd501st5]

the grime and dust becomes a feature over time... ;)

[@kimbongun5369]

You have really nice smooth hands

[@simpilothr6653]

Jesus...when you putted the sad music when telling the cons of the stick, it actually felt sad...really, really sad

[@Epokha]

Thanks for the review, there were only reviews from terrrrible space simmers. Who would have thought those people exist

[@ralfidude]

hue hue hue

[@neuzdost1939]

Its not fair to compare centering forces to the Warthog base because Warthog one is an absolute trash

[@ClipsCrazeCC]

very entertaining

[@delayed_control]

The big red button is for autopilot disengage....

[@ralfidude]

uhuh, if you map it that way.