Ramana Maharshi on self-enquiry and the Guru

[@DavidSmith-zl2ww]

David Godman is, for English speakers at least, one of the clearest commentators on Sri Ramana's method of self-inquiry today. As an academic, his articulation of often complex points of Bhagavan's teachings are nearly always conveyed with masterful simplicity and exceptional clarity of expression. This is why listening to David expand on Sri Ramana's teachings also functions as a rare lesson in lucidity and concision. Well done David and deepest thanks for the incredible good you are doing. 🙏

[@ricardomusicdoc7227]

This is such a brilliant satsang, it explains so much... l'd been trying something similar for years in an attempt to deal with chronic pains. Once l heard your talks it came naturally. It's beyond words. Sri Ramana is available to us all. Have faith and listen to Mr Godman - can't thank you enough ❤❤❤

[@ShirleyMcalpine]

About 10 years ago, I became obsessed with every detail of Rama's life. Today I would recognize it as love taking hold of me. Like so many others, there was no recognizable result. When I thought that I had given up, the inquiry was always with me whether I intended or not. Inquiry seem to deeply root itself into my thinking process or rather life taking on a life of its own. I did ask for Romanoas help and woke up the next morning feeling as though the man himself was expressed throughout my body. I have no magically experiences or states of consciousness as so many people have described. However, I find my compassion for all of life and love is felt more deeply than before. I feel he was always with me and my heart jumps with excitement at The mention of his name. I thank you David for all that you do!

[@IAMinfiniteandfree.]

Are you not obsessed with your own life? That might be the problem, your obsession with someone's else's life. 🤔

[@ShirleyMcalpine]

@@IAMinfiniteandfree. I don't understand where you see a problem! Let's see one

[@LaColinaSagrada]

There is no words to describe everytime the happines i feel to know that you have a new video! listening you with histories of old devotees of Bhagavan and listening the inmense knowledge you have to share with the Q & A as well... thank you so MUCH!

[@KORKMACAN]

Yes. And his books are also very helpful for realisation.

[@LivingNow678]

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[@pedtsukonin686]

there's something special about David's words that is attractive to spiritual seekers, the simplicity and clarity are amazing.

[@robertrozier2940]

This man is a global treasure ❤️ Thank you David Godman! 🙏

[@tarnum113]

Mr. Godman, thank you so much! Greetings from Siberia, Russia! I couldn’t believe when I saw the notification! A new video! If I had a chance I would listen to you the whole day! ☺️ your style of narration perfectly conveys Bhagavan’s teachings! Thank you again! Please make more videos! Even if it’s repetitive, doesn’t matter ☺️

[@KORKMACAN]

Yes l agree with you. a nice convey. You better go There and meet him face to face. İf The conditions are available of course. With the pandemy in india

[@renatemocza7195]

@@KORKMACAN Wish I would be there.

[@KORKMACAN]

@@renatemocza7195 Then follow your heart

[@willemdewaard2070]

@@renatemocza7195 He is here, 'where can I go?' s own

[@willemdewaard2070]

Words (from Bhagavan) sorry for my bad english, I AM dutch.

[@GayatriMade]

David godman is the best narator who's telling story of bagavan and his teaching,i can feel that his voice is so calm,peace and soothing,i believe that his 1 of those people who's got enlightened and attained bliss vibrated by bagavan,eventhough he never met bagavan phisically.

[@renatemocza7195]

I met my inner Guru many years ago and was guided in many ways. He showed me Sri Ramana long time ago and now I am here again. I am definitely ready. I KNOW that I am not the body, but there is attachment, otherwise I would leave immediately. Thank You so much for these very inspiring lectures.

[@d1427]

Renate, the attachment is natural but has nothing to do with you. Let the mind be attached to the body- you can only watch; that which watches has no identity and no interest in that which is watched. If you need to give it a name, you may call it life or God- you, the observer is life/God, consciousness, self, awareness, etc. That which is watched is life expressed as sensations, emotions, feelings and thoughts. Life watches life- the only life you'll ever know, and you know it by being, not by thinking about it. Life is not in time but in eternity- the content of life is in time but life is not interested in the ever changing content. Life is about being conscious in the 'now'. Later on, after further 'looking' you'll find the absolute behind this flow of life- that is the real you/self. It is just a matter of looking behind and beyond- that which is looking will be burned by the absolute like a moth attracted by the flame of a candle, becoming one with the flame in annihilation.

[@richardconner1283]

HAVE YOU SEEN ON UTUBE,RAMANA MAHARSHI:BE AS YOU ARE,CHAPTER 12,EXPERIENCE AND SAMADHI.?IT IS A GREAT WAY TO GO DEEPER IN YOUR PRACTICE.

[@LivingNow678]

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[@KDVprasad7]

Thank you for posting this video. I can't get enough of your videos. I have most of them if not all. I listen to them before falling asleep so that my subconscious mind will keep hearing and my being becomes filled with the Ramana's teachings. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. 🙏🙏🙏

[@KORKMACAN]

Then Good night 🙂👍

[@riccardoc1711]

Thank you David for being the keeper and divulgator of such rare and important gems.

[@EXAMPLE-Leadership-School]

Thank you, dear Sir David Godman!!! Much much surrender and devotion from Moscow, Russia!!

[@KORKMACAN]

Moscow never sleeps. Awake. 👏

[@EXAMPLE-Leadership-School]

@@KORKMACAN yes Rise and Shine your eternal blissful joyful Self!!)

[@markr7059]

Miss Peace... very moving thank you David. Bless you.

[@mikezrymiak5256]

Thank you David. You explain things so easily, matter of fact. You take away mysticism and complexity and just make it simple and understandable. Om.

[@lioninvesting4676]

Dear David these videos are incredible. The peace they generate is incredible

[@animeshchandra4505]

I can see why David was always selected to be a writer by all the enlightened ones like Nisargadatta Maharaj and Papaji. His instructions are genuinely blessed by divine. People who are able to understand his message are in his debt🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@GeorJiadvaita]

The Holy Mountain path is direct. No process, no stop overs, straight to the Heart.

[@KORKMACAN]

Yes. Only When one is ready to see The direct path. And when one is ready is answered really good in The video.

[@mon.coeur.jv.]

Ola l'ami Georji! :D

[@LivingNow678]

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[@krishna6046]

Thanks very much Davidji for your valuable guidance and insights. I pray to never lose my attention on the SELF and get cooked by Bhagavan Ramana just like he did the Eggplant stems.

[@greatunborn]

So grateful for your videos -- for the wisdom and kindness and sensible advice -- and occasional dash of deadpan humor: "Lakshmi definitely wasn't a big reader." ☺

[@bobbyx2017]

We are so lucky to have David and Michael. Absolutely indispensable 🙏🏼 ❤ 🌊

[@jonathanmarcus550]

Once again, your clarification on the Life and Teachings of Ramana Maharshi, in general, and Self-Enquiry, in particular, constitute: The Invaluable Resources of our time for sincere seekers. Thanks, Mr. Godman, for posting this video, as well as all your productions!

[@dcj212]

Thankyou David 🙏 Your previous video "Who Am I" is my sole companion now ...every moment of every day....

[@LivingNow678]

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[@gregorylent]

yay, mr godman posts again !

[@Theborderlined]

David is a treasure... Thank you for your invaluable work that looks more like a life mission to bridge the gap over generations. Merci infiniment. Namaskar

[@ZenMountain]

Always great to see you and listen to you. Thank you so much David!!

[@jackladd4332]

I'm having trouble putting ideas about reincarnation and other lives alongside this amazing teaching. I see one as a belief system and the other as absolutely real with no belief needed. I think the next incarnation of these teachings will have to realise that belief has no place here, and we have to be prepared to admit we do not know.

[@Iam_perfectly_imperfect]

Thank you to everyone involved in these videos. They're extremely helpful extremely. Again ty! ✌️♥️🙏

[@jthepickle7]

In 1976 , in the book IN SEARCH OF THE MIRACULOUS , I saw this one phrase, "remember yourself". After years of practice I could almost succeed in doing so. For about 3 years, I remember, I would practice for ten minutes and forget for about two weeks! After a few more years, the weeks turned into mere days of forgetting to 'remember myself'. Years passed and days of forgetting became only hours. 2009, (33 years later) I remember, was a very good year. Now, after 47 years practicing self observation, I begin phase 2; the practice of asking, "Who am I". We all want a healthy fire to light our camp. A healthy fire begins with a spark. The spark catches the kindling. The kindling first warms the logs before they finally catch fire. It all takes time - is dependent on the dryness of the logs, not the heat of the spark. "When this I shall die, then shall I know who am I." - Yogananda

[@miltonmartinez6698]

Thank you Mr. Godman

[@mariapaula4375]

Gracias, gracias, gracias!! Maravilloso! Mágico!

[@specialk4959]

Godman - you are a legend. Thank you for your work

[@elizadaphne5501]

Yes, it's the same with me 🌾🌿🌸so glad to see your new videos posted....your word and energy bring something very grounding to me....the clarity how you tell about Ramana Maharishi ..something direct coming through 🙏🏼...is why after 10 years, still listening. Thank you so much and god bless

[@angelarapuano1315]

Grazie dal più profondo del cuore ❤️🙏🏻

[@dhruvalives]

@David Godman, Many many thanks for your work.🙏

[@elnino9959]

Thank you David, lots of love from coventry UK.

[@douglasholden3169]

Thank you for sharing. ... That's the greatest thing I ever knew when I came into PAPAJI's atmosphere even in the realm of a old tape uploaded on you tube and the laughter and He Papaji just always right here here OM Namaskara. So don't have to be a seeker to feel PAPAJI's Love for all ONE WHOLE Humanity we are THAT I AM. Thank you dear SELF i LOVE you as I LOVE and see me in you OM Namaskara. Grace. PAPAJI! SHIVA RAM DASS MOOJI BABA JI And you I don't even always know your name but devotee of PAPAJI And PAPAJI shines thru Your PURE LOVE and GRACE thanks David Godman. Douglas Jay Holden. OM.

[@JustDontMove111]

Thank you David

[@hypeogaming8600]

thankyou David, your delivery is perfect...love to hear you talk, comforting wisdom it is.

[@aadityakiran_s]

There's everything you need related to self enquiry right here.

[@peterbunny8971]

Very good story in the end

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

"Look after the Silence" - that indeed captures the paradox of turning the light around to listen to the source of the light. In Taoist Yoga alchemy the left ear is yang and left eye is yin while the right ear is yin and right eye is yang. A Tibetan medical doctor describes this as collecting the energy of the Universe with the ears and then sending it back out with the eyes.

[@writteninthesky]

🤫💞 😍

[@LivingNow678]

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[@pedrosanz4100]

I am so thankful. This video has made me take an important decision.

[@malaselvarajah5398]

Wow perfect Qq&A thankyou ! So much gratitude 🙏🏼 for these videos they are helping me immensely...these thoughts often come up and here you answer then so simply and in such a straightforward manner . I hope there's more of these to come . Om shanti

[@arvndktwn]

Thank you so much Mr. David and the whole team for sharing these amazing videos. thank you

[@internetkingdoma6249]

Beautiful and clear speech. Thanks 🙏

[@justbe3532]

Great to have you back David 🍀

[@Grateful_Acres]

Thank you SO much for this Mr. Godman. I am that most unsavory dish, unworthy of Bhagavan's grace.I pray that Bhagavan will bless my efforts. Thank you. 🧡🙏🧡🙏🧡🙏🧡

[@frankwyman9138]

Very excellent info and advice.....thank you for this.

[@LivingNow678]

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[@jasonazure]

We love you, David ❤️

[@olena7834]

Thank you very much, dear David! 🙏❤

[@LivingNow678]

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[@meetshah9625]

Thankyou so much for giving immense clarity...

[@diocletianrecords1089]

My Dad came from Delhi,he said I should study religon.I achieved Enlightenment i 1990 and became The Reincarnated Buddha.

[@IAm-ur9cq]

Re atma-vichara eligibility: It is interesting that many of the “big names” associated with Sri Ramana undertook practices other than self-inquiry. For example, Lakshmana and Papaji each undertook japa intensely until the last moments. Annamalai in contrast, was instructed by Sri Ramana not to undertake inquiry, but instead to continually remember that he is the Self, via the repetition of “I am the Self”. Muruganar arguably practiced bhakti. And given Sri Ramana himself heard the name Arunachala repeating effortlessly within since a young child, it makes me wonder if Sri Ramana’s main practice in the life just prior to his final one, was nama japa. It seems that even the most devout (eg Ganapati, Natanananda) discover, that the true vichara (to be as you are) is extremely difficult. Most will require an aid such as the mental question “who am I?”, japa or some other practice, so as to first render mind one-pointed.

[@joeybtheman1906]

in papaji's case all his spiritual work lead him to his guru ramana. this is the case in all spiritual practices, they will eventually lead u to a sat guru for final liberation.

[@IAm-ur9cq]

@Bernard 1] “That is not true, Sri Ramana did not do japa and certainly did not repeat the name Arunachala.” *No such claim was made. Reread the post. 2] “In fact he stated that any mental activity like japa cannot yield Self-realization.” *What!* Even if you do nothing more than unceasingly *think* of that first name 'I-I' with the attention focused on that ''I'' sense, that practice will take you to the Source. (GVK716) 3] “Also, atma-vichara is not difficult at all, in fact it is very simple.” *But it is difficult for you, if it weren’t you wouldn’t imagine an ego to level personal attacks against.

[@LivingNow678]

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[@IAm-ur9cq]

@@James-cz7bl "You are dishonest. You have deleted a comment here which accused others of personal attacks. Then you realized that you were wrong and so you deleted it." Pay attention!.....it is still there. Look carefully. “When Sri Ramana talked about "I-I" he was most certainly not talking about "thinking" because "I-I" denotes not, as many seem to believe thinking the word "I" multiple times, but it denotes the sphurana which is a deep thoughtless state.” No! He literally meant repeat I,I,I,I,I, for the purpose of rendering mind quiescent and one-pointed; once quiet one rests in the thought-free state. *Remaining as you are or simply Being is the true practice of vichara.* “Anybody who believes that they can "think" their way to Self-realization are out of their minds and quite confused.” No claim has been made that one can think their way to Realization. This is your habit of imagining faults in yourself. *Your understanding is theoretical and superficial. James/Bernard...I've no interest in continuing the discussion.*

[@NightSkyWalkers]

@@IAm-ur9cq _No! He literally meant repeat I,I,I,I,I, for the purpose of rendering mind quiescent and one-pointed; once quiet one rests in the thought-free state._ Succinctly worded. This is why Ramana held japa in high esteem. Verse 659 in Guru Vachaka Kovai, which was edited and arguably written by Ramana himself states, _You can be liberated from bondage by adoring God through name and form._ _James/Bernard…_ These two names are used by the same person. Have no doubt about it.

[@Knowasark]

So very helpful and so very clearly and simply presented. Thank you so much, David.

[@kishoremennur9447]

Thanks David.. 🙏

[@redwoodthomas5943]

Self inquiry in a sense is for ripe souls meaning, if one has understood this concept very clearly then it's like a sharp knife that can be used to cut the knot of ignorance. It's a terrific teaching that can be done anywhere, anytime. If not understood, then better to start with japa, puja, etc. Self inquiry can be understood clearly if one has understood the various components of the mind - chitta, vritti, aham, smriti and their relationship to the glorious atman.

[@meta2011]

Q 1- Best method is try yourself which method suits your temperament. In middle of japa, chanting, bhajan if one can ask who is going this japa then one will merge in source and there is no 'I' left to perform japa. For self enquiry 'I' should be free to investigate, all prelimilenary practices are to make 'I' free. Once it is free then 'I' automatically sink into source as soon as enquiry is done. Effort is till finding "I"& holding it. As Bhagwan said, "It is impossible for you to make any effort beyond a certain extend". David sir, pls correct me if I am wrong.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

yes that's why Ramana Maharshi required vegetarian diet to strengthen the mind and weaken the body.

[@maheshseshadri490]

Thanks a lot Davidji 👍🙏

[@sophiajp1]

Brilliant thank you! ❤

[@KORKMACAN]

İf you are ready for direct self enquiry is really a subtle subject as you mentioned... More The religions got The power in The society, more people started to act religious.... who will know they are sincere..... And more conciousness will be popular in society, more ready people for direct self inquiry will increase. :) And who is ready for self inquiry is a very Sincere subtle question that can be answered only by a realized self...

[@vhemait]

so grateful for your works on delivering Sri Ramana Maharshi's teachings unadulterated. Just now completed the book you edited 'Be as you are'. Would like to visit Ramanashramam and meet you personally :)

[@GuruguhanIyer]

I owe my life to him

[@mon.coeur.jv.]

Merci !

[@soundyoucantouch]

45:57 - I cracked up when David talks about book reading's aid in self realization. Some good old British humor there! If you want to light up your mood a bit, go to around 45:00 for the question asked to get the context.

[@profitsearch]

i listen to raag darbari while meditating in the evening and night. try it some time

[@luizbomfim2464]

Thank You❤️❤️🙏🙏

[@subramaniambrothers748]

absolutely brilliant and divine.

[@radhikamenon6573]

Gratitude 🌺🙏🏽🌺

[@svrcharles7529]

thanks mate from sydney :)

[@shivsivaram9872]

Namo Ramanaya 🌺🙏🌹

[@martinshannon7632]

Thanks david

[@sharauro]

Self inquiry in a sense is for ripe souls meaning, if one has understood this concept very clearly then it's like a sharp knife that can be used to cut the knot of ignorance. It's a terrific teaching that can be done anywhere, anytime. If not understood, then better to start with japa, puja, the devotional aspect of worship which eventually leads to enquiry. Self inquiry can be understood clearly if one has understood the various components of the mind - chitta, vritti, aham, smriti and their relationship to the glorious Atman. For me after reading Raja yoga by Swami Vivekananda, I can relate to self inquiry better since it helps to exactly pin point what is to be focussed on. Of course Bhagavan's answer is final since an advice given by a jnani far outweighs any answer given by a book read scholar.

[@muavead]

So thats why you can never ever fully take in 100% value anything, without checking things out or proving it yourself. In so many cases others who have involved, have put their own meaning into it, risen of their own understanding and restriction of their own current self.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

very fascinating. Based on Mahayana Buddhism - the body also needs to be "emptied out" into formless awareness or else the body becomes sick and unhealthy - unbalanced. Ramana Maharshi seemed to have relied on the Brahmin caste system to have people take care of his body as he left it decay.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@cristovaljesusamado8455 I have seen the ghosts being healed by qigong master Chunyi Lin and also as explained in the free biography of Phra Acharn Mun of Thailand. So yes the spirit as a ghost has to be healed back into the Emptiness and the healer does this by embodying the Emptiness themselves (via the right side pinhole of the heart). So thank you for this clarification. Yes Master Nan, Huai-chin or Huajin also explains this paradox found in Ch'an Buddhism whereby the Ch'an masters have their body sick but are still able to empty out their thoughts with each breath.

[@112deeps]

Thank you... Confirmed my intuition. Once Ramakrishna encouraged the attitude the person is most attracted. once he told off Vivekananda when he forced vedanta to a bhakti aspirant who became dispodent afterwards ramakrishna had to make effort to return the bhakti aspirant to his natural attitude

[@hariv8297]

Thank you

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

In Taoist Yoga there is the "relative void" as light seen in the mind internally and the "absolute void" as light seen externally while the eyes are open. The "absolute void" needs to be maintained while doing activities, etc.

[@bodolax]

Thank you sir. Om Namo Baghavate

[@ellenrule3189]

Wonderful

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Poonjaji emphasized that in his past life he was a sadhu yogi devoted to full lotus raja yoga meditation.

[@David_Godman]

He said he was a Krishna bhakta in his last life. He was not practising raya yoga then.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@David_Godman OK thanks. Also you still think Ramana Maharshi did not need to practice self-inquiry for 9 years nonstop without even seeing his mom - before his experience of his heart stopping for 15 minutes and achieving the "knot" breaking as "eternal liberation"? thanks

[@mimicnature-naturalwayoffa3972]

I think one should start with understanding the root meaning of the word PERSONALITY, after decades of enquiry, I guess this word has the key. The word "personality" stems from the Latin word persona, which refers to a theatrical mask worn by performers to play roles or disguise their identities. Who am I? may help us find who were we before we took to a personality.

[@deepthesailor]

Can you please advice some book for the seeker who has just started watching some videos on the subject

[@rocky821]

please add subtitles sir. i can't understand your accent with my poor english.

[@David_Godman]

They will be available in a few days' time. I haven't checked the transcript yet.

[@divyasingh633]

I can see the subtitles

[@abhishekm5661]

I think subtitles r there as I can see.. greeting..

[@rocky821]

@@David_Godman thank you sir 🙏 its available now 💜

[@timgarrison8097]

I am English first language and I have difficulty understanding what Mr Godman says. Definitely he could talk slower and not repeat himself so much.

[@jackladd4332]

Bhagavan and Jiddu Krishnamurti are so alike it's as if ... i wonder if i ever find out.

[@mustafaaks2737]

yesterday while i was meditating lying on the bed (because my foot is injuried) , for a second i stayed btw. sleeping and waking. i had a big energy flow. it was for a very short time but it really made me excited. i know it is not a sign or smthng else but i wonder what it is.

[@KORKMACAN]

Karabasan :). Enerji kısmen hissedilebiliyor sanırım. Ona tutun ve devam et. Realisation will never leave you once experienced. That is what l understood but not experienced.

[@mustafaaks2737]

@@KORKMACAN bencede öyle bişeydi, yine aydınlanamadık xD

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Master Nan, Huai-chin claims that the self-enquiry is lost if the body is sick. So the mind can not be emptied out right before death. So then the body must be harmonized as purification with the meditation practice.

[@theghostwhowalks2097]

Who dies?? ……Whose mind? Whose meditation?…..

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@theghostwhowalks2097 I'm just saying Ramana had "volunteers" to help take care of his sick body. I suppose they could keep reminding themselves that they were not really doing that. Only the SELF was helping out his sick body. It works great for the Brahmin caste system so I suppose it should work great for Advaita Vedanta also.

[@KORKMACAN]

İs Godman your real surname or You got it after you moved to trivannamalai ?

[@David_Godman]

It's my family name. My father was Michael Godman.

[@KORKMACAN]

@@David_Godman it was written on your name you would live this destiny. Hard to see before you saw :))....

[@apricus3155]

@@David_Godman David, not sure this will get to you but... I am curioua about when Maharshi got up in the morning.

[@lalitaescuela]

Thanks David!!

[@arcticauroras9627]

Better words, I bow now

[@smroog]

What does "I AM FREE" mean ??

[@belovedabstract3568]

just a heads up , all the early videos with you in your office have no sound

[@hrishikeshshinde599]

david sir ive been a seeking from years. have gone through teachings of ramana maharshi nisargdatta maharj papaji and few others as well.. but the seeking does not end i still want to seek which is again vicious circle getting me nowhere.. although reading again and again and developing understanding am completely convinced about my identity as self but there is no realisstion. how do i go about self enquiry as i dont think i am one for meditation mantras repetition etc. eagerly looking for guidance

[@theghostwhowalks2097]

Maharishi himself said First the The seeker has to disappear. The problem is you are trying too hard looking for yourself. All mantras meditations processes are in the realm of Maya. Keep your mind quiet. Empty it of your ego and gradually dissolve into the absolute.

[@aaaaa601]

I don t understand english 😥 🙋‍♂️🙏🌷

[@SeanPalmerLOFI]

At about 26 mins you say “self enquiry and/or surrender”. With regard to surrender is it right to say that is the void? The chasm that must be crossed? How do you consider self enquiry and surrender to be related, or is it meant that they are together one item?

[@timgarrison8097]

Self-iniquity is more of a general term. Self inequity encompasses everything you do to reach enlightenment. Surrender is one of those techniques of self inequity that you do to reach enlightenment. Like if you're having a really bad day you can't take it anymore your mind is like a spinning squirrel cage in your brain ; it's all negative thoughts ( your ego is working hard ) , you throw up your hands and say I surrender , I can't take this anymore!! Suddenly you will put one foot in the fourth dimension if only for a couple seconds it will be the most beautiful thing you've ever experienced. You will ask the God for more suffering. 5 minutes before that you hated your suffering of many mental negative thoughts. You couldn't stand it anymore you wanted to get rid of your mental torture. All day you wanted to get rid of your suffering mere seconds after you surrender ( because you can't take it anymore ) you ask the God for more suffering ; so weird. You ask for God for more suffering is so weird except you do that because you want to go back to that beautiful place ; the Fourth Dimension ( it's called the Fourth Dimension in modern English called Heaven in some circles )

[@SeanPalmerLOFI]

@@timgarrison8097 thanks Tim, my question is really regarding surrender and doer-ship. Dimensions aren’t a helpful concept for me because after a point language fails the experience. But surrender is the only way to traverse the mystery of Self knowledge. If you know of Maharishikaa Preeti she is very eloquent on the subject of surrender. As a sadhana it has been a helpful practice in these 11 months since I posed this question. Thank you for sharing. Namaskar

[@mikemartian6217]

OM

[@sita7950]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🕉🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@lazerlloyd1]

Relating to what is discussed about needing some moral achievement to start self inquiry the really isn’t any contradiction to what was found written and what the master usually teaches because anyway anyone who would come into contact with this master or with the siding they want to take upon this teaching probably had to go through some serious spiritual effort and anyone who went through some spiritual effort must have for sure tried to improve their moral condition sorry for the misspelling or miscommunication I am communicating while driving through dictation

[@gbzorro]

Reminds me of college professors, a ton of words for an ounce of essence.

[@turkrane12]

To thine own self be true

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Is Godman really his surname?