Rambling About The 5YL Alien Redesigns (Ben 10 Discussion)

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I feel like this video is gonna end up being a little controversial lol. If you feel like I was too mean to the Ink Tank crew here, feel free to comment about how my own artwork is flawed! I'm very much open for criticism :D
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[@StoryTeller796]

1:08 Heatblast. 1:36 WildMutt 2:28 DiamondHead 2:55 Accelerate 3:35 GreyMatter 4:13 FourArms 5:04 StinkFly 6:31 RipJaw 6:57 Upgrade 7:36 GhostFreak 8:08 Cannonbolt 9:41 Wildvine 10:28 Spitter 11:16 Buzzshock 12:08 Arcticguana 14:01 Frankenstrike 14:43 Upchuck 15:41 Ditto 16:15 Eyeguy 17:03 WayBig 18:13 Swampfire 19:15 Echo Echo. 20:08 Humungosaur 21:05 Jet Ray 21:46 Big Chill 22:28 Chromastone 23:07 Brainstorm/Greeniol 23:46 SpiderMonkey 24:16 Goop 24:47 Alien X 25:30 Nanomech 26:51 Lodestar 27:30 Wrath 28:07 Water Hazard 28:55 Amphibian 29:38 Armadrillo 30:34 Terraspin 31:29 NRG 32:24 Fast Track 32:44 Chameleon 33:24 Eatle 33:59 Cuckoo ClockBack 34:47 ShockSquatch 35:23 Jury Rig 35:55 Feedback 36:54 Blocks 38:44 Gravatack 38:54 Grass Hopper 39:11 Ball Weevil 39:42 40:13 Pesky Dust 40:46 Molestache 41:13 The Worst 41:43 Kickin Hawk 42:05 Toe Pick 42:40 AstroDactyl 43:10 Bull Frag 43:29 Atomix 44:09 Gut Rox 44:49 Whampire

[@KirigiriKirin]

Thank you for the Time Stamps!

[@StoryTeller796]

@KirigiriKirin No problem! Honestly, I kind of didn't like Pesky Dust's beard, but if you liked Pesky Dust's design, then I guess it was just a me thing, to be honest. I might make a video covering in more depth my reactions to both these designs on top of reacting to your reactions. That would be the main purpose of me putting it into "The StoryTeller's Animated Adventures" Playlist.

[@Eccentric-Entity]

Why did you name it Accelerate and not XLR8?

[@StoryTeller796]

@@Eccentric-Entity Is that its name? I'll change it then.

[@Eccentric-Entity]

@@StoryTeller796 Yeah that's the official name

[@-penta-1357]

To be honest, I absolutely *love* when 5YL aliens have gross and disgusting design elements, it was one of the things that I really loved about the alien designs in the classic series.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Classic didn't made them over the top gross tho, most of these designs look like they are trying too hard

[@-penta-1357]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 And that's why I like it

[@antonslavik4907]

Tom Perkins. He was a major part of Ben 10, but they didn't get him into any post OS Ben 10 stuff. The reason why it all sucks too.

[@madlaugher3300]

If you give heatblast leggings and no pants it brings up the fact he ain’t got no clothes where it matters Edit: I wasn’t expecting this to blow up!

[@KirigiriKirin]

LMAO TRUE Dude has his cock out

[@KirigiriKirin]

His "mini volcano"

[@madlaugher3300]

@@KirigiriKirin the blow torch, actually on a serious not he could probably weld with that

[@KirigiriKirin]

@@madlaugher3300 You're so right

[@Grag235]

Actually, now that I think about it, how do these aliens reproduce? It’s confirmed that baby Pyronites exist in Omniverse, so like… how do they smash?

[@madlaugher3300]

If 5yl armadrillo looked like a mechanical animal rather then an animal with mechanical parts then he might’ve worked better

[@KirigiriKirin]

I think I'm inclined to agree with you!

[@madlaugher3300]

@@KirigiriKirin like an animatronic which is basically what he’s supposed to be

[@limbokidthedank8746]

I like the idea of most if not all of his body being covered in this exoskeleton that he naturally grows out and is meant to help him resist the recoil and the violent shaking from his own digging, but that if he was hurt badly enough and the armor was pierced, you would see blood and flesh within, many animals are like this and I feel like it just makes sense for him

[@quantumsurge7250]

The 5YL version looks like a cosplay of himself honestly.

[@sirdudeman]

@@KirigiriKirin The reason armadrillo is so different is because O.R. Ash (the member of the ink tank who I believe designed it) mostly isn’t a fan of aliens that just look like robots (like armadrillos original design)

[@anthonyvillanueva5226]

As a novice artist myself, I do really appreciate that they're all clearly a distinct style. Not a fan of the lesser emphasis on mechanical elements though, but it's a good tradeoff to have more monstrous, naturalistic designs.

[@brockschannel3927]

I tried doing my own design for Brainstorm,and the crab mandibles i tried to do looked like a big mustache. Basically,the pringles guy mustache,lol!

[@KirigiriKirin]

I LOVE THAT SO MUCH LOL

[@herowither12354]

5YL Bloxx is like Reboot Stinkfly wasn't based off of the pre-production alien Dragonfly and was made from spite.

[@dan8er709]

"I kept Swampfire's collar because I wanted to be respectful to the source material"

[@brockschannel3927]

Funny thing,there was a previous iteration for wildmutt,but i pointed it out on one of Ash's livestreams before he redid it. Not sure if that means 100% that i had an impact or not. Edit: the thing i pointed out to Ash was the lack of a tail for Wildmutt.

[@KirigiriKirin]

Oh, interesting! :0

[@brockschannel3927]

​@@KirigiriKirinI forgot to mention that it's the lack of a tail that's what i pointed out. My bad.

[@skistorm739]

@@KirigiriKirin be funny in a different universe ben from reboot but a better version and the watch not too op like gilgax corrupting earth but cool if went to the fey forest in the world Switzerland/Ireland or Ireland or europe fae/magic creatures or other creatures see ben tranforming into different creatures and bigchill.

[@skistorm739]

@@brockschannel3927 ben 10 reboot wheel are pearls or slime orbs many species produce and the waybig face I don't like just too cracky the eyes ok and ulgy face ok and the redesign haves to be ulgly and ancient times face apdated to corrudion to surieve and old version maybe haven't fully apdat yet and the corrudion speeds up apdations

[@skistorm739]

@@KirigiriKirin and the pturbosaurian evolve around corrodium explain their impossible evolution

[@unitds27-delta]

This video made me realize two things about redesigning Ben 10 aliens. 1. Turning metallic or mechanical aspects of an alien into biomatter doesn't work. It just looks weird and gross. 2. Making it so an alien's face is too animalistic also doesn't work. Granted, it doesn't necessarily need to be super humanoid, but if it looks like you just ripped the face off an ordinary Earth animal and stuck said face on the alien, it doesn't work.

[@mitchelldingodilehomie4230]

the swampfire bit where you said he has boobs was so funny to me

[@KirigiriKirin]

He got them plantiddies

[@mitchelldingodilehomie4230]

@@KirigiriKirin 😂😂😂

[@mitchelldingodilehomie4230]

@@KirigiriKirin plant booba

[@crownedj8295]

41:07 "I mean to be fair I'm trans, he can gladly kick me in the balls and it'll probably get rid of them faster" HAS ME DEAD LMFAO

[@KirigiriKirin]

Always gotta look on the bright side! :D

[@malachigv]

oh wow that made my day

[@rikajougasaki3296]

"Grown Vulpinmancer mouth that Ben 10K didn't have either" - I always assumed that was like a homeworld and Null Voider difference and the show was like, always trying to make it obvious.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Ben 10K's version kinda started having that, u can see some cracks like things near his mouth and u know how it might look after a few years after that

[@rikajougasaki3296]

Would that imply that every wild Null Void Vulpinmancer we've seen is very, very old? Or at least that Null Void Vulpinmancers gain that trait earlier.

[@yangchenlhamo7537]

They turned my boy bullfrag from Gigachad frog from the swamp, friend and brother of gigachad Shrek, the froggy rizzler and the peak of all frogs, the alpha frog, into a hobo drug dealer who'd sell you crack.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

😂😂

[@yangchenlhamo7537]

@theamazingspooderman2697 am i wrong though?

[@HealthGage0336]

​@@yangchenlhamo7537 not at all man, he lost his bulk and his swag.

[@yangchenlhamo7537]

@@HealthGage0336 I understand disgusting aliens. But not bullfrag.

[@napoewenode8849]

u need to be given an award for that. thank u

[@MuuToo]

Man, I never realized how much they REALLY like sticking that weird shield shape on a lot of the aliens.

[@KirigiriKirin]

I would judge it but I put stripes on a lot of my aliens lol

[@terrimama2174]

​@@KirigiriKirin yeah ikr, oh btw can i smas pesky dust (ov & 5yl, still cute btw and my favorite childhood wife)

[@HealthGage0336]

The weirdest decision they made was to put the shield design on NRGs outer forms crotch, and since that design lacks green for the most part and sind red cancels out green, it stands out and my eyes are drawn to his crotch which is not what I want my eyes to rest on

[@Johanimate]

​@@terrimama2174 The species or Pesky Dust in general?

[@terrimama2174]

@@Johanimate what

[@Hassanimtiaz2k21]

I like cannon Whampire…. He had a weird fun vibe to him like feedback …. Now he became more of like wildmutt and animalistic

[@KirigiriKirin]

Very tru

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

Honestly, I prefer when Lepidopterans have pupils. In the OS, even though I know the Omnitrix symbol is not his eye, I struggle to not see it that way. In Omniverse, they gave him pupils, and it was way easier to focus on his actual eyes. Also, just so I don’t create a tldr post, I’m just going to state my opinion on my favorite alien: Grey Matter. I like 5YL’s overall design, but I think he looks too muscular. I prefer a lankier Grey Matter.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

he originally had pupils in the concept art I think, he even had red eyes, u can see that whenever Stinkfly's pic pops up in the Classic intro yeah I agree with your Grey Matter opinion

[@pemanilnoob]

Yes omg!! Yes! Everything you said yes!! When he has pupils it’s so much better, it just looks wrong without, and in OS when his eye stalks just didn’t go where he was supposed to look.. grghhhgh

[@theman5921]

I like the Toepick redesign. It looks like a proper cosmic horror from a HP Lovecraft story

[@KirigiriKirin]

Agreed!

[@gwas3698]

Kuro is a really great guy when it comes to writing, making concepts and worldbuilding in general but his visual identity looks verry underdevelop overall.

[@KirigiriKirin]

I think that's a fair criticism! He's very talented in many ways, but his art style feels a little confused

[@DekuDunkstar]

​@KirigiriKirin I don't think his style is confused, its just it feels like it needs more focus with more rules that can have the aliens feeling consistent with one another.

[@KirigiriKirin]

@@DekuDunkstar Fair! Then again, they're aliens from different worlds. They *should* look different, so perhaps we're the ones looking at it wrong?

[@DekuDunkstar]

@@KirigiriKirin that's fair

[@Z3R0Steam]

personally, even besides the designs themselves, i hate how puke-coated the colors are, like compare Cannonbolt to the 5YL one and you can tell how mucus-y it looks

[@femboy1164]

43:22 loved the atomix impression! Had to do a double take cuz it was really good!

[@KirigiriKirin]

Haha thank you! I've been practicing ngl U×U"

[@femboy1164]

@@KirigiriKirin Gotta say I love your voice in general, sometimes I just play your vids in the background while I'm doing something cuz I love hearing it ♥

[@KirigiriKirin]

​@femboy1164 Aww thank you so much! I'm flattered ❤

[@edaartist]

One thing that i imagine about Kuro’s WayBig design is that since he is made of metal was that Way Big rusted

[@KirigiriKirin]

Ngl Kuro's Way Big design looks to me like he's made out of peeling tree bark lol

[@yangchenlhamo7537]

​@@KirigiriKirinhe looks hungry. Starved.

[@richardkirkland6805]

I actually have to agree with you about the artsyle, while Classic will always be my favorite, Omniverse is my second favorite. The UAF style only really looks good in the day, because at night the backgrounds are so dark it just looks like the characters are walking on a black void.

[@valen9835]

Will always find it strange where 5YL respects the canon designs and other times changes them drastically, whether it's someone's existing redesign or one made for 5YL. Like Kuro prefers classic upgrade's white breaking up the pattern, but he goes with the AF onward design(s). But for armadrillo he goes with someone's drastically different design that just, doesn't work. Never understood the hate for mechanical aliens when upgrade is a living machine. The upside is I'll never read the comic so I never have to see the designs I don't like.

[@isaactheworshipwarrior6687]

Yeah and he's talked about bow much he really dislikes the Blossomed version of Swampfire, but he kept that version to respect the continuity

[@valen9835]

@@isaactheworshipwarrior6687 That I don't mind for some designs, honestly my only issue with 5YL swampfire is the weird out of place hand holes that don't make sense for the blossomed form's hands, I feel like they should've been a slightly different shade of the hand color to blend in better like how AF/UA do the hand holes

[@morallygary9098]

I think a lot of Kuro’s designs are not comic friendly, or rather, they’re the type of thing that if you stop and look at them, a lot of them feel better, but if you see them once you won’t like them as much. Like, a prime example for me is wild vine. I actually like that design, but I went into this video remembering hating it. Because the last time I saw it was relatively brief. Some just straight up don’t work for me- nanomech’e extremely fragile build, The removal of Brainstorm’s constant sneer, etc. but a lot that didn’t before work better for me now that I’ve sat down and stared at them.

[@KirigiriKirin]

I'll have to check them out again! Hopefully they'll grow on me

[@mateusfranco5938]

I think the problem most people have with aliens like Fasttrack, Eatle etc is that they don't look like lifeforms and more like people using costumes. I personally love the way people draw them more organic (I'm a bitch to the OV design of Eatle), it shows how it isn't Ben becoming a Power Ranger or smth

[@brockschannel3927]

5yl bullfrag for some reason reminds of DJ from Total Drama Island. Also,this is just a headcannon/fan theory i made as a joke,but i like to think that Kickin Hawk is an ultra chicken from Futurama (The lawer's species)

[@KirigiriKirin]

5YL Bullfrag is a Battle Toad with none of the charm

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@KirigiriKirin yeah lol, he looks so off

[@terrimama2174]

heavy Villains: *one Punch at uaf/ov armodrillo* uaf/ov: it's really tickle *meanwhile at 5yl armodrillo* heavy Villains: *one Punch at 5yl armodrillo* 5yl armodrillo: *got flew away and got crash at the huges wall*

[@mechacasey]

For the alien I'd choose to be able to shapeshift between, I'd choose Whampire! This will sound a bit bad/evil but being able to control people sounds very useful gjdsjdjs. As for what I think you'd pick I'm gonna go with Goop! A Tokustar shapeshift honestly sounds near-useless for being so damn big and a Talpaedan sounds just as bad for the same reason but to a lesser degree, as for a Vladat you just don't strike me as a Whampire fan and by process of elimination that leaves Goop! I do think you'd enjoy Goop for the shapeshifting ability of Polymorphs so it isn't entirely based on process of elimination gjkfsjfs

[@demondoggo2768]

I don't like a lot of the 5YL designs but what i'll feel free to rag on is the fact kuro seems to just hate vibrancy, all of his aliens are desaturated for no apparent reason and I'm not a fan of his Ben Design which often times bleeds into the 5YL Alien designs since some of them resemble him with their facial hair or other traits. I think the source of the issue is that it's almost like he's trying to draw ben 10 in the danny phantom style, like 5YL Ben wouldn't look out of place in danny phantom but it doesn't look like a natural design progression for the ben 10 universe or ben's character.

[@Tari_10_Editz]

Even worse, he made 5yl a Danny phantom is OP fest

[@demondoggo2768]

​@@Tari_10_Editz I honestly find that surprising since despite the fact Kuro has stated " Ink tank exists to advertise 5YL " the channel is solely ben 10 focused and maybe once in a blue moon will Danny Phantom get mentioned - I haven't read the fan comic but i'm willing to bet the reason he'd be overpowered in the comic is a substitute for the fact danny's world/characterisation is under represented. With the amount of effort that goes into the ben 10 side I wouldn't be suprised if orginally it was just meant to be a small scale fan-comic about danny & ben having a cross-over and gradually morphed/mutated into a poorly thought out fan sequel to omniverse

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@Tari_10_Editz agree

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@demondoggo2768 agree with both your points

[@tylerferguson3193]

Hope you'll have a good day c: In regards to your poll, it's a tough call. Maybe goop? Due to the flexibility and acidic touch for easy escapes. Love armodrillo but I don't work in construction and whampire's mind control could be unethical. Only one I didn't consider at all was the tokustar, no utility outside combat on earth. Maybe you'd go for the vladat due to their wide array of abilities

[@godaberi]

I think the problem with 5YL's redesigns is that they implant way too many small and fine details into the aliens and their suits. On one of the Breakdowns where Way Big appears I think, Kuro talked about how Waybig's "overdesigned" look in OS makes sense since he's gigantic; There's so much area to cover that the seemingly insignificant and nonsensical details work in his favour. Unfortunately, it really does look like they took that same philosophy and plastered it all over the other aliens, which doesn't work. A lot of it either looks like noise and is just downright unpleasant. And the Irony here is that their Waybig redesign is almost the opposite, it looks really simple and the only details are the protruding skin pads and the gills

[@isaactheworshipwarrior6687]

There's that and also, and I think they even mention this at one point, stuff like this would be an absolute pain for animators to work with on an actual cartoon.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

exactly

[@rahnal21]

All my design opinions Heatblast - The leggings are kind weird, but I don’t mind them I really like the way the fire hair looks. Wildmutt - I like the tail and the outfit/saddle, the helmet feels like it’s pushing it. Diamondhead - You’re right, Diamondhead (reboot included) doesn’t have a bad design, this is no different. The chin texture looks cool XLR8 - I am not that big a fan of the new visor (mainly the color), but overall, still cool. I do like the white stripes on his tail. Grey Matter - I do not like the chin stripe, but otherwise not that bad. (Also weird so the Omnitrix so small in comparison to him) Four Arms - The outfit and hair are sweet. My one issue that the arms spikes aren’t showing. Stinkfly - I feel like the pupils are only where for the sake of continuity (seeing as 10K, Stinkyfly and OV had them too), but overall pretty cool. I like the face stripes and the spikes on him, tho a bit too bulky. Ripjaws - Awesome looking. Breathing tank is a nice addition along the fin “hair”. Upgrade - The purple shine makes is a bit too much and I don’t like the head shape. The rest is closer to Heroes United, which is decent but I prefer the UAF and Classic Mechamorphs. Ghostfreak - I really like the hands, ribs pattern, tail and Omnitrix placement but the rest is ok. Cannonbolt - The teeth and rocky shape of the bumps are cool. Do wish the fur was lighter and 10K’s pants have always been weird to me. Wildvine - I while I like how OV made him a stoner, I hate the face/expression on this version. Also the bottom vines feel off and the outfit looks good. Spitter- I like the texture on him, but I prefer the fins on the original over the ridges Buzzshock - I kinda prefer this over the official designs (a bit). The goggles are cute, the battery symbol is a nice detail and I do like the proportions. Arctiguana - I like they gave him a tail, the face hair is a nice touch and the first spike on his back is a bit too shark-like. Benwolf - I like it sticks closer to the Classic design I do prefer 5yl’s due to the fur detailing. Snare-oh - I like the gold on him and I wish the clothes saturated up by a little bit. Frakenstrike - Hair’s a mixed bag for me, but otherwise, pretty cool. Perk Upchuck - Not a fan of the warts or tongues, but the rest is cool, sticking closer to classic. Murk Upchuck - I like how different and weird his face and lips are. I think I prefer this to official versions. Ditto - I like how cute and cartoony he is. Eye Guy - I hate the hair on him, and chest eye I’m ok with and the webbings are a mixed bag for me. WayBig - Mixed bag for me (still better than UAF design lol). The flesh armor stuff does make him feels more alien which is decent. Swampfire - I prefer this over the OV Blossom form. Nice blend of pre and post blossom elements, I just wish he kept the arm plumes or fingers from OV. Echo Echo- It looks pretty cute with the face and how stubby it is. Humungosaur - Something about the face is off to me. The body itself looks cool with the armor on both versions. Jetray - I do prefer this over UAF Jetray. This has better wing proportion and shape, the outfit is neat and same for the face tendrils. Big Chill - The antenna are a mixed bag, I like how it keeps the fuzz on the OV version on UAF shape and I am not fan of the desaturated colors. Chromastone - Colors are cool and I don’t like the covered up face. Brainstorm - The eyes, head openings and legs are neat. I really don’t like how it has the awkward UAF lower body proportions. The claws are weird the mouth is ok. Spidermonkey - I hate the ears too and I don't like how they kept the OV Wolverine hair. I do like how they kept the OV six eyes and two tails are neat. Goop - Love the color and texture, but I am not sure about the projector being on the arm spike. Overall, I do prefer it over the official designs Alien X - The light blue aura looks pretty, as well as the horns, but the base of the horns overlaying the nose area I don’t like. Nanomech - I kinda prefer this over official Nanomech too. The way the body connects is fun and I like the three arms and legs, which make him feel more unique and insect-like (seeing as the nanochips were already like insects). (BTW this version has an arm that becomes a propeller to fly) Lodestar - The magnet shaped claws, magnetic dust spikes and floating orb are all neat additions. I don’t like the dust spikes on the legs and I wish it had the UAF eyes. Rath - I do think just pants makes more sense for casual clothing (even tho I kinda liked Luchador Rath) and I do like the fur. The colors seem a bit too desaturated for my liking. WaterHazard - Mixing him with Overflow’s a cool idea. I do think the new 5yl design would be better if it had the proportions of the old one. The barnacles and whiskers look cool and I don’t like the newer chest eyes and eyebrow thingies. Ampfibian - I really like the shape and tail (I do wish he still had 6 tentacles) and the mohawk I’m not a fan of but also don’t mind. Also, green blue doesn’t work nearly as well as soft blue. Armadrillo - I hate how it looks like another creature wearing a suit. Not only are the fleshy bits gross, but feels like the suit is just a thing he wears like IronMan as opposed to being a natural part of his body, which is what he’s supposed to be. Terraspin - The helmet is cute, the neck is decent, but I don't like his skin being yellow. NRG - I do prefer this suit over the official versions, with the core, and all the accessories on him. Shape is also better too, but the green in him is a bit much NRG without suit - Can’t decide if this is better or worse than the official veirosn. The body and the detailing on it is awesome, especially the flaming legs. But I really don’t like the face. The eyebrows, Fire antenna and chin hair don’t look good on him. Fasttrack - Automatically better because it’s not as bland. The suit and face patterning are nice and the fluff and face redesign fix the original for me. Chamalien - Original texture and eyes are better by a mile, this is gross. The extra back legs like Randall are a fun addition tho and the shaping does make him feel more slippery. Eatle - I love the design of this version, making him feel more like a beetle with the extra legs and bigger bulkier body. The shine on his shell is frosting on the cake. Another I prefer over official versions. Clockwork - The main thing I like is the detailing on the chest. The face is cute (tho I prefer the :| face of OV), legs look nice, but don’t like the hand shape. Shocksquatch - The mix of HU and OV is cool, but I think it would have been better if the face and hands were only orange when charging up. The big feet are a nice touch and the Omnitrix placement makes me uncomfortable. Jury Rigg - The outfit looks cool, especially with the armband things and goggles. This has a better face shape and proportion but I am unsure of the ears and nose designs Feedback - The collar bone tendrils are fine, but not as fitting for me. Feet are an improvement, the pupil feels off and the rest is the same. Bloxx - I don’t like this because I can’t see him disassembling and reassembling into different constructs (which is the entire point of him, ability wise). The colors are fine. Gravattack - Mostly the same and is overall good, like the lighting shaped crack on his head, but I don’t like the coloration for the core. Crashhopper - This one is is mainly minor improvements, nothing notable beyond the spikes Ball Wevill - Kinda interesting with the eye redesign and bigger body, but original is both cuter and better. Also his horn is worse on the 5yl version. Walkatrout - This one I prefer because it has a better fin and outfit than OV. Also he is cuter. Pesky Dust - This one is overall better for me. I like the eyes, mouthless face and dress, but I am not a fan of the sideburns and the original skin tone and hair color was better. I think I like the 5yl version a little bit more Molestache - This guy is already my least favorite alien (ignoring his voice, that’s the one redeeming quality) and this is a slight improvement, like with the eyes and noses, but I still dislike it. The Worst - The jowells are weird but fine. While the underwears were funny, this is a bit more fitting. The lumpiness is nice. Kicked Hawk - I think the OV harness looks a bit better than the tank top, and I don’t like the face/beak of either version. Maybe if he had a proper beak instead of cartoony one and toned down the mohawk, I’d like both versions better. Toepick - I do prefer the proportions on this version better, and the outfit is definite improvement. With that said, the colors and face of OV are better. Astrodactyl - This one was a better outfit but worse (lack of) saturation. The beak and head crest shape are hard to judge from this angle, but I think it is about the same. Also, I know this is a nitpick, but I don’t like how the first bend on each is downward before bending back up again. Feels unnatural. Bullfrag - I am unsure about the warts. I think they would be better they weren’t on his chin. Also, another alien with a better outfit. Atomix - 5yl Atomix looks badass. While I do think he is too skinny, every other major change is an improvement for me. Love the colors, suit design and skeleton underneath. Gutrot - This one is a mixed bag for me. The rocky rotten look to him is both gross in both a good and a bad way. Whampire - I feel like they went too far with the half bat look, especially with the fur on him. I would’ve preferred the vampire trope of him turning into a normal bat. Designs I prefer the 5yl version of: Buzzshock Benwolf Murk Upchuck Blossom Swampfire (compared to OV blossom) Jetray Goop Nanomech NRG (in suit) Fasttrack Eatle Crashopper Walkatrout Peskydust Molestache Toepick (with helmet) Atomix

[@gibbsterV]

0:46 I haven't seen them being talked about that often so I'm glad that you're gonna talk about their designs at some point because I just love them, especially the new name they gave Blitzwolfer

[@KirigiriKirin]

I'm very happy to see someone else who loves their work!

[@Hollowmello1285]

2:14 Man wildmutt really isn't beating the dog allegations

[@KirigiriKirin]

LMAO

[@zexed4475]

Honestly, I like 5YL but I never got into the designs

[@KirigiriKirin]

That's fair!

[@themossyslime]

I really enjoyed this video and it looks like bullfrag aged up 50 years

[@KirigiriKirin]

Bullfrag is in need of a face lift

[@Grag235]

I still enjoy the original Bloxx more than 5YL’s, they just nerfed him to just make floor tiles

[@KirigiriKirin]

EXACTLY

[@luckytrap8998]

I actually really like gaunt NRG! It makes sense, considering how hungry P'andor was I think the green on the suit is kind of ugly though, looks like it's in underwear

[@umapessoa240]

My take on their Way Big is that it looks pretty cool… from the waist up. I don’t know, it’s kinda jarring that the torso and head are so intricate and the legs and feet are just a bland undetailed white.

[@madlaugher3300]

5yl pesky is alright all it needs is a single line for a mouth

[@KirigiriKirin]

I think it makes sense that it doesn't have a mouth. They perhaps feed on adrenaline from dreams so you don't need a mouth to absorb that

[@madlaugher3300]

@@KirigiriKirin I’ve always wondered how they enter dreams and I like to think it’s why Khyber is scared of the species like he witnessed them dislocate their jaw or split open and forced a tendril into the victims head. Also if they have no mouth how do they talk unless it’s telepathy

[@Hadeks_Marow]

It's also worth noting that in universe, the Omnitrix appearing anywhere other than the middle of the chest was a glitch in the Prototrix. That glitch was since then patched with the release of the official 1.0 Omnitrix. Meaning, wild mutt having the dial on his forehead is a continuity error. Same with any other randomly placed dials. Don't get me wrong, the dial looks super good there on wild mutt but it is unfortunately a continuity error.

[@Tylerr_Creative]

21:57 Don't worry I prefer OV Big Chill over UAF BigChill. I think it gets the point across of a BIG chill..personally the best design of the species is the beta design where its super long and lanky but OV is fine

[@Thecorruptor985]

We finally have 21:43

[@Neodymium-de5nj]

I love all of these designs personally, the changes don't bother me much at all, but I can really see why they don't vibe with everyone. Seeing different takes and opinions is interesting and refreshing after living in your bubble! My takes on some of them for different takes (on what I feel some should look like and fun (prepare for a long ass essay)): Upgrade: I was thrown off at first bc I'm more used to a gooey build for my boi, but I came to really love the 5YL design for Upgrade a lot. Purple took time to get used to, but otherwise even if I'm biased towards my favorite alien, it's cool for me. Wildvine: Honestly I'm not sold on him having hair, period; as someone who likes Wildvine it's cool seeing the wheaty texture of him, but I'm personally not sold as much. Still slaps. Echo Echo: This is another one of my favorites that took time getting used to, but I've also come around to love it. His body shape is much more different than in the show but I don't really mind. I love screamo man either way even in OV. Chromastone: If I'm being real here... I would not redesign Chromastone at all, personally. Him having a uniform, sure. But it didn't make sense to me that Chromastone looks vastly different from his UA appearance. In fact, I just imagine Chromastone as Sugilite's appearance with slightly more Ben features and tweaks, and that's it. Him having multi-color geodes is cool, and I still love the design, but in my head it doesn't make sense that the Crystalsapien transformation looks way off from the only other Crystalsapien in the universe. Armodrillo: Now I LOVE this one. Only because while I love his original robotic look, he's way different and still tells me it's Armodrillo. (Which was the core point from Kuro I believe; he doesn't really mind what people think of his designs as long as they recognize it's that alien) I would make him look more bio-mechanical than straight up rodent in a suit, but I still like this. (Also fun fact: 5YL Jetray and Armodrillo aren't even Kuro's designs, they're Insane-Mane's with just a few changes to fit the comic better. I believe as of now Alex's design for Jetray is the same but Armodrillo has been changed a bit.) NRG: I'm actually the reverse on this one; the suit is fine to me except I can't stand green on it (or the overuse of green on his suit for my liking), but the true form is badass. It really feels like NRG's living off of radiation that he needs but nearly died because of it giving him that skeletal look. I love the shoulder pods on his suit though. Shocksquatch; While I love the mix of his HU and OV look, I always like the artist Elmike9's direction of him, where both HU and OV Shocksquatch is a similar case of Upchuck and they're both based on Yetis living in either the north or south part of their planet, giving them their vastly different looks and feels. Eatle: I love this one simply bc I'm in the main camp that OV Eatle is better than UA (Even that is fine), and it looks as if he completed his growth stage. It's gross, but like many people, what I love about 5YL's designs is their realism; if they existed IRL, they probably would look like that. Feedback: For some reason this speaks chad vibes to me. I love the horns since having nothing on his head would feel weird and I just like how they look. His collarbone tendrils look so good to me too. Maybe I love Feedback too much but he's always been a badass in OV and 5YL to me. Bloxx: Nooooooooowwwww, I... am 90% fine with this, I simply don't understand why his powers changed. Sure I love it but I love the shapeshifting aspect of Bloxx more. If you take out the plastic and LEGO aspect of him I would like it more but all I'd not change is his powers. Otherwise I'm fine with this. Ball Weevil: What I find funny about Kiri's take on her ideal Ball Weevil is him being cute and I love the 5YL one simply because I imagine it's his species way of going through puberty; this is totally a headcanon, but why I think Ball Weevil looks ugly is because as he grows more, like the generic acne and hair growth spurt for humans during adolescence Ball Weevil starts looking super gross. I mean, if you make an Ultimate Ball Weevil he's not going to remain cute, would he? That's why I love 5YL BW and also find that theory really funny. Mole-Stache: I vibed with Jerry, not him; since he's my least favorite alien in the franchise, I like the 5YL simply bc I don't imagine his hair shapeshifting (which I really didn't like), but still retain that prehensility and how he can glide by rotating his mustache. The beard makes sense if 16 y/o Mole-Stache was going to have a stache, and 21 y/o would have a dwarf beard since Ben normally does have a very scraggly one. Toepick: Asking for real here: Is that actually how Toepick's face looks???? I swear I've looked around a lot and that's the first time I'm seeing OV Toepick's face. Well I guess personal attachment will play a factor here, but I really like how gross his face looks in 5YL, and he probably would look like that IRL. (Another fun fact, his connection to Opticoids was based off of the dumb joke in Something Zombozo This Way Comes where Ben is Eye Guy, bumps the Omnitrix into a wall & turns into Toepick, and Ash tried to make as much sense as possibly out of that connection.) Atomix: I don't care if people prefer the Superman build of him, but why does he _need_ to have that build? Like realistically, I mean? Something I always wondered. 5YL looks cooler to me and I love his nuclear energy texture a lot. and that's all I wanted to talk about. thnx for wasting your time here lol, hope y'all have a good day

[@zap4th368]

The worst: “it looks bad, and that’s good.”

[@leightanhamilton1535]

i really love hearing your opinions and ideas about ben 10 i ended up having a conversation with myself about your opinions on the redesigns

[@leightanhamilton1535]

ill take any excuse to talk about ben 10 even if its to myself

[@KirigiriKirin]

I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@terrimama2174]

ngl ben 10 omniverse spider monkey front/back hair is look like Wolverine

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

it's actually a reference to Beast not Wolverine

[@terrimama2174]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 oh ok

[@terrimama2174]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 and also thx

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@terrimama2174 welcome

[@terrimama2174]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 😁👍

[@jamesshadeslayer3395]

i like cannonbolt's design except for where the omnitrix is located also is it just me with the way it's positioned or does the claws on his right hand loos stubbier then on his left(which look sharper)?

[@anthonyporcelli95]

Honestly I like the 5yl redesigns sure they aren’t all perfect and some are better than others, but I like and have fun comparing them 🤩🥰

[@mitchelldingodilehomie4230]

bullfrag turned him self into a pickle lol

[@KirigiriKirin]

Funniest shit I've ever seen

[@geckoarmy4791]

28:03 the new Rath looks aged like old man Logan aged

[@trixtheghostwalker6634]

What have they done to Spitter and Bloxx

[@KirigiriKirin]

They massacred our boys!

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Mole Stache too

[@Rose-yx6jq]

2:30 I think it is actually possible to do diamond Head wrong and that was in uaf. Like they were able to build a model that I think would have been phenomenal. They put him in a hoodie. Like the only crystalline thing about him was his face and arms why was his head not a diamond head but just a diamond face on a rock head? But you're beyond that it's like you have to be deliberately trying to fuck it up to do diamondhead dirty.

[@KirigiriKirin]

I love his UAF design ngl It's arguably my favourite

[@Rose-yx6jq]

@@KirigiriKirin that's not DiamondHEAD that's DiamondFACE.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

lol he is called Diamondhead and his head ain't even completely made of the same material

[@Rose-yx6jq]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 *THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN!!!!!*

[@mertensiam3384]

He also looks naked. All his other iterations have clothes but that one doesn't. I don't like that

[@diamond5914]

Would’ve been interesting to see what Kuro had in mind if he didn’t have to work with the collar on Swampfire or as he would put it: “MY BOY”

[@dustinthewind357]

Anyone who likes the OV Big Chill should not be tested with sharp objects.

[@geckoarmy4791]

25:43 Dear God, my boy, you've masquered my boy😂

[@EarthrealmWarrior]

I'll have watch this one later because i haven't watched 5 Years Later. But I'm excited to know your opinion

[@williamszwarc8557]

Dem thigh highs on heat blast got me questiong my self. (This is a joke i will not smash the pyronite)

[@Wailerman]

Im actually curious, do the different colored aliens of Ben's transformations (the blue Tetramand guy and the two Wildmutt guys from the one poll) count as being different enough (see Upchuck) and therefore could be scanned?

[@KirigiriKirin]

In the case of the Tetramand, Kolar is blue cuz he has a different skin tone. He's the same species, just a different race The two Vulpimancers are Mutants and therefore unsuitable for the Omnitrix

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Murk and Perk Upchucks actually have different powers if u don't count the wiki and only see the shows, like Perk has multiple tongues while Murk only has one

[@LambdaFeet]

I feel like there is just too much clothing I felt this way with a lot of omniverse designs too

[@KirigiriKirin]

Valid!

[@batmantsh]

No frickin way inktank should get you to do the voice for atomix no cap

[@KirigiriKirin]

LMAO If you can convince them, I'll do it gladly!

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

5:01 - this feels like a Sumo Slammers reference, at least that’s the vibe I get from this 4arms, so that’s neat

[@user-ham24432]

alien force waybig will always be the best looking waybig bro was cooking with that look

[@Spooky_2024.]

All of them are 10/10 no discussion 😮‍💨

[@KirigiriKirin]

Mmm idk about that. That Bloxx design is something else lol

[@Spooky_2024.]

@@KirigiriKirin Lego man 🥺

[@Rose-yx6jq]

Bloxx. That looks weird.

[@KirigiriKirin]

@@Rose-yx6jq Yeah fr

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

not even close, Way Big, Armadrillo, Bloxx, Shocksquatch, there's way too many designs that are bad

[@tonyshad1239]

Hearing Kiri just lose it laughing made my day, I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who laughed irrationally hard at that name XD

[@KirigiriKirin]

I'm glad my laughter became infectious!

[@pemanilnoob]

The immediate thoughts watching the video from a guy who always prefer the designs from the show, I’ve never preferred a redesign before, I generally don’t like redesigns (Note my use of emojis is solely to emphasise a joke) 3:23 the posing is good, but the design looks WAY too human and muscular to me, it just looks like a guy in a skintight suit, not an alien 7:12 and why he ourple?? 😂 7:38 no, just no 9:46 nah man they turned the plant into a plant smoking hippie 😭😭😭 10:55 why’s the omnitrix symbol so small?? 11:23 he lookin like a straight up nerd or scientist, instead of a lil small kid, cool take 12:22 only artiguana that has a place in my heart is the ov one, he’s just so cute nobody can top him 13:08 body horror ahh mouth, love body horror 13:37 it looks like he’s wearing a dang onesie 14:06 oh god no not my baby boy, I love os and ov cannonbolt, the 5YL version just looks.. blergh.. not that good. I don’t like it at all 15:47 that’s a whiplash it looks like something out of some kids cartoon, not an adult comic like 5YL 16:18 oh god oh no that, just no, that looks so stiff and eurfh 17:06 I got a visceral reaction of loudly saying “noooooooo noooohoooooo” when seeing that monstrosity ighhghgghughhhhghh (btw for me the OS design is by FAR the best version) 19:20 what on earth is that 20:18 the normal form there looks like the one in 2016 haha 21:17 those long whiskers are actually a cool design 21:50 why is that big chill design kinda.. 😳🔥 (as in attractive) (Will continue in reply)

[@pemanilnoob]

22:54 why does he look so rounded with his stones? 23:09 LOOK HOW THEY MASSACRED MY BOY 23:48 me: “I hate those ears” kirin a second later: “I hate the ears” we’re so in sync The feet by the way to me look too feet like, no real thumbs or anything to grab 24:20 bro’s doin a power walk 🔥 25:46 rule of three 27:34 ugh he looks like.. sandy.. and dry.. he looks like he’s been in a desert for too long 29:01 so flat/thin looking.. 29:40 NO NO NO JUST NO GOD NO NO, NOOOOO 31:33 so.. flurbhbhbhhhh (the sound of heat) looking 32:31 meow 🐱 33:12 why they make him a centaur like thing 33:37 just ov version but more bumpey and grown new arms 34:09 smiley 34:52 dayng, it feels like a mix of both designs, like the best parts of both designs too, pretty cool 35:26 NOOOOOO MY BOY I HATE IT SO MUCH I LOVE OV JURYRIGG THIS IS AWFUL NOOOOOOO 36:04 uhhhghh I don’t like the tendril coming out from over the chest.. it makes that place on me itch… 36:59 redesign? No. A nerf 38:57 it looks pretty cool, not bad, maybe the only one I might maybe like more than the original but it’s only cause it’s barely changed, only small things 39:15 it’s a cool design, just isn’t ballweevil.. (Continued to second reply, due to typing lag btw)

[@pemanilnoob]

39:46 I kinda hate that lmao blrghfhbklblgtthgghg 40:17 still adorable little baby boy, that’s all you gotta do for pesky dust, the little baby 40:46 WHAT DID THEY DO TO MOLESTACHE?? I really like molestache, and it’s just, they made it a grampa oh no, not my British little man 41:15 ugh he looks like a younger grampa that doesn’t have a beard! Omg, those 2 are like my to grandpas, what a coincidence (well except my grandpas don’t look.., gross) 41:54 he doesn’t have the face of a chad 0/10 42:21 woah I had no idea there was an official design of the face! I wish we saw it in the show 43:11 oh god no, not my boyfriend, Bullfrag, they made him… UGLY!!!!! 43:28 looks like one of those female robot things from sci-fi films. I want more feminine aliens for Ben, I like women, they’re cute 44:13 now he looks.. bad. I like gutrot a lot (haha I rhymed) and that design takes away almost all I like 44:51 NO, NOOOHOO IT MAKES MY CRY WHAMPIRE MY ALL TIME FAVORITE ALIEN RUINED RUINED!!! It’s not even a bad design, it’s just NOT WHAMPIRE AT ALL!!!!!

[@gendygoblin8391]

They made 4 Arms into Stephen Seagul 😂

[@FrancisTheBerd]

41:05 well god damn this was a barrel roll 💀💀💀🤣

[@jameshughes6355]

The back arm of Nanomech *are* his wings (they split open and act like rotor blades)

[@KirigiriKirin]

Ohh interesting!

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Guess i'll watch all of this later.

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Contrary to you I REALLY like Toepicks redesign, the grotesque real face of Toepick doesn't look like it induces fear, only disgust which is where Demogorgon face works, it's combined with Pennywises Deadlight true form, a double reference in one alien! On the other side I'm with you on Toepick being related to Eyeguy as a bad idea, if anything Spitter should be related to Eyeguy instead cause both are aquatic/semiaquatic aliens with spherical ultimate forms

[@KirigiriKirin]

I'm glad someone appreciates the Toepick design!

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

@@KirigiriKirin Will you be reviewing each original 5YL alien? I'm really curious to know which original alien is your favorite and your least favorite, mines the GOAT UltraViolent 💪

[@KirigiriKirin]

I might do that at some point!@@mr.knightthedetective7435

[@TylerGoatMan]

16:51 The name of Toepick’s species in 5yl are the Teretinal Ogre

[@zariaalhajmoustafa2573]

‏‪27:56‬‏ in Omniverse wrath he's actually naked

[@zariaalhajmoustafa2573]

I mean bigchill Omniverse try to be the big chest like a moth if one thing I want to fix Omniverse design give big chill fuzzy fur to look more like the moth

[@Sappysappster]

5:23 "We should improve society somewhat" "And yet you live in one. Curious!"

[@KirigiriKirin]

True!

[@everfreedyrad6805]

Goop better for keeping a low profile and you can get anywhere you can get the projector. Amarillo would lead to too much collateral damage and wampire could really only be used at night

[@mimikywolfyt]

kuro pumps up armadrilllos biomechanical desing up but in the wrong places

[@kingparker42]

29:37 That ain’t Armadrillo, that’s Kangadrillo

[@KirigiriKirin]

So true!

[@magdalenamatuszczyk6717]

O said it once and I say it again, the Armadrillo 5yl version looks like he has skin infection.

[@KirigiriKirin]

Agreed!

[@coherentramblings7326]

The main thing I think should be considered is that these are all aliens from an older version of Ben. With that being said, Upgrade, Buzzshock, and Ditto are designs that I like In a vacuum, but I don’t think they fit because they actually look like a younger version of their species. On the other end of the spectrum, Chromostone, Loadstar, and Molestache are have designs that I wouldn’t want to be the default look of the alien, but they’d all be cool in an episode with Ben 10,000 Also, Kuro’s version of Water Hazard reminds me of Gravattack, which is a comparison I didn’t think I’d make.

[@EricIsntSmart]

UAF eatle take shook me to my core

[@mimesforcrimes8393]

Kuro does go over why he designs stuff in a video, so if you are curious on 'Why Waybig looks like that', go check it out

[@hyperanmis]

For eatle i dont really like it its abit strange how a straight of beetle than show a few sides of metallic body type but still its a little decent but armodrillo i dont like the flesh parts i mostly like how hes a mettalic shell but still this was a good video 👍

[@_uncredited_]

As an Eye Guy fan his design makes me sad cause i saw some 5yl concept art for him and it had his proportions being significantly more freaky and monsterous, short upper arms and massive+thick forearms, huge torso and tiny waist/legs which is exactly how he should be

[@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer]

Wait, a vtuber making content about Ben 10? What the heck? That's so based!

[@KirigiriKirin]

Thank you! :D

[@Plaguedoctor93]

Buzzshock looks like a minion

[@KirigiriKirin]

YOU'RE SO RIGHT

[@Chaotic_by_Choice]

I was actually planning on doing something similar where I rank all of the 5YL aliens

[@KirigiriKirin]

I encourage you to do it!!! :D

[@Chaotic_by_Choice]

@@KirigiriKirin I will, as soon as I stop procrastinating and clear up some space on my hard drive

[@plazmasix6694]

Nice video as always Keep up the good work 👍

[@KirigiriKirin]

Aha! It's the one who inspired this video themselves! ❤

[@rick5354]

The hawkdown has some of my fav aliens redisgns can you make a video about his cannon ben 10 aliens redisgns?

[@KirigiriKirin]

I'll add it to the to-do list!

[@quanglu8636]

“Ok Spitte- oh my god.. what happened here uhh” We shall respect Kuro’s Spitter redesign for being able to actually make Spitter look disgusting

[@CharJ4c0b]

I love some and I hate others

[@KirigiriKirin]

Respectable!

[@Smv83104]

appreciate the bloxx love lol

[@KirigiriKirin]

Bloxx deserves more love!

[@burrslayerdriftts2108]

I say this in other video but Really ,Chromastone face and neck thing it just make him look like fricking Buzzlightyear for me 😂

[@madlaugher3300]

Great video but Maybe it’s time to talk about Biomnitrix fusions and potential combinations

[@KirigiriKirin]

That one is on the to-do list, don't you worry!

[@madlaugher3300]

@@KirigiriKirin good good cause I got some ideas for fusions

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@madlaugher3300 the possibilities are endless

[@madlaugher3300]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 a video that never ends!

[@GoingBizark]

I have the instinct to say water hazard like Wo or Hazad

[@andrews4717]

I kinda like the spitter design with the exception of how long he is. I love the gross aliens

[@KirigiriKirin]

Valid!

[@Brendan.C]

Bro, why is 5YL Jetray wearing a bib? Is he acoustic? 😭

[@tfordham13]

Personally i dislike the resigns

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Man i'd say the designs I dislike got to be Feedback and Waybig. Like why'd you do feedback like this? All you had to do was fix the tendrills.

[@sheop874]

I quite like jetray design the clothing gives more to it and the general anatomy even if only slightly different does paint a different design in my head of like a ambush predator style creature in the wild swooping down and crawling on all fours and the face wiskers tendrils to me are reminiscent of cats whiskers evokes the idea that they're a sensing tool also a la snake smell

[@stanleymoloto8795]

i like how 5yl diomand head is very similiar too classic ben 10000

[@Blitz_Blazer]

36:58 Now,personally, im 50/50, i like that it's not Lego to be original, and it's like stone, but the fact the omnitrix is on the chin throws it vit off for me, like he he could get upper cutted and transformed