Ryzen 7 5700X vs 5700X3D - Is the "3D" Worth The Extra?

[@roybrown6058]

Just upgraded from a Ryzen 1600 and Vega 56 to a 5700x3D and 6700XT. Easily getting atleast double the framerates in most games, some have even tripled. (70-90 in PUBG on the 1600. Now closer to 150-180). The fact Im still using my budget Asrock AB350M is a huge testament to how good this platform is/was.

[@arch1107]

admirable the support asrock gave to that mobo, most only gave support from b450 and more recent

[@2cars10]

I started with a 1300x on an a320 Mobo, upgraded to a 3600 and now 5700x3d. Works like a charm on a board I got brand new for $50 back in 2017.

[@MM-vs2et]

@@arch1107 Classic AM4 longevity. I'm still rocking an A320M also from Asrock since 2018 and have used a 1200, 3600, and now a 5800X3D. Still have BIOS updates at the latest from 2023

[@qwuzzy]

Very funny because this is my upgrade path, except I have an r5 2600 and used to have an rx 580. Same motherboard too. Glad to hear it's good!

last week i upgraded from 1700 to 5700x should last me for few more years

[@marstedt]

You added Kingdom Come Deliverance! THANK YOU! :D

[@markteeee]

Amazing improvement from AMD, KKD was a nightmare with the old FX processors !

[@RandomGaminginHD]

One of my favourite games!

[@Lurch-Bot]

Finally, a CPU that can handle the game...6 years after launch.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

HENRY'S COME TO SEE US!

[@Ash_1277]

I was actually wanting to see a video comparing these two chips ngl. Thanks for video man!

[@Tomazack]

Ngl? Why would you even lie about something like this. Internet has ruined the way people talk and comment these days.

[@GameslordXY]

​@@Tomazack?

[@Ash_1277]

@@Tomazack heh? Bro I was genuinely looking for a comparison between these cpus after I saw a mention of these two in a different video (i forgot which one but maybe a video by ltt or a yt short)

[@Choralone422]

I went from a 3600 to a 5700X3D earlier this year, and it was absolutely worth it! Even 6 months later, my PC still just feels a bit more "smooth" on a build that's now almost 4 years old in total. It will probably continue to be enough to satisfy me until AM6 comes out sometime in the future.

[@smakfu1375]

In general Zen 3, regardless of vcache, feels smoother due to the unified CCD. I noticed the same thing when I moved from a 3950x to a 5950x even running a heavily VM and container concurrent dev workload. There was also a very large IPC uplift between Zen 2 and Zen 3, which heavily contributed to overall snappiness; clock for clock, Zen 3 cores are a lot faster than Zen 2.

[@Jzwiz]

Idk why i watch these, i use a 7800x3d personally but for some reason i just love benchmark videos. Keep up the good work :D

[@AeroFix94]

me too. Im using the 5800X3D. Upgraded from a 5800X. I found the X3D for a good price then sold the X, so it was a no brainer.

[@zerozone5848]

this is good, if you keep watching more and more benchmark videos, eventually you'll be able to give very good hardware recommendations price to performance wise to other people or especially to people you know.

[@zerozone5848]

@@AeroFix94 i wasnt able to get the 5800x3d since its way more expensive than the 5700x3d, so i ended up buying the 5700x3d. I upgraded from ryzen 5 3600

[@AeroFix94]

@@zerozone5848 thats a very nice upgrade from the 3600. I did almost the same upgrade back then from 3600 to 5800X :)

[@AeroFix94]

@@zerozone5848 thats a very good upgrade from the 3600. Huge upgrade in fact. I did upgrade from 3600 to 5800X and that was also huge. Then from 5800X to X3D and even that jump was pretty big in some games even at 1440P.

[@mx3fto]

I recently upgraded from a 5600 to a 5700X3D and it was totally worth it. It ironed out a lot of the stuttering I was having in games like hogwarts and cyberpunk. Hoping it'll last a good few years to come yet, especially at 4k

[@HoretzYT]

Im on a 5600x and i'm not upgrading to a 5700X3D because there's like 0 difference in playing at 4K, biggest difference is at 1080p, mild difference at 1440p

[@X_irtz]

Did the same upgrade and can confirm it's a noticeable difference in CPU bound games.

[@Craig-e9i]

​@HoretzYT it's about the 1% lows and stuttering at higher resolution so it does matter. I upgraded the 5600 to the 5700x3d and in ghosts of tsushima everything went super smooth. I also game at 1440 and 4k so big difference.

[@mx3fto]

@@HoretzYT Depending on your GPU it can make a massive difference even at 4k. I'm on a 3090 so it really has the ability to stretch its legs with the X3D. Even older games like DX-MD, Shadow of the tomb raider etc had a huge jump in frames and 1% lows

[@wh3resmycar]

@@HoretzYT 1% lows will improve even @ 4k.

[@YouTube.Pigeon]

I'm happy to see my R7 5700x holding up good. 😁

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Still pretty solid

[@prosecanlik4296]

I am still good with my 5600G. Low power consumption, offers great gaming experience

[@sajidshaikh6797]

​​@@RandomGaminginHDim planning to get myself a build early next year.. Im confused about building a new rig on ddr4 what do u suggest should I or maybe wait a little bit more since 7500f is not available here ali express is banned so ni shipping and 7600 and 7600x are about $250+

[@TheEmolano]

It's a processor from 2022, it's supposed to hold for 2 years no problem

[@Noa15Lv]

Damn... I'm rocking Ryzen 7 3700x since 2020 Might do an upgrade sometime in future, but i won't be letting go AM4 yet.

[@svenolafson3032]

Depends on the game, but for Starfield it made a big difference in smoothness for the wife's build.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah in some games the difference will be huge

[@TboneSTEAK111]

Tarkov as well

[@Lurch-Bot]

That was my experience with Cyberpunk when I got the 5700X3D. Have only had it a week so I haven't played anything else. But those gnarly frame drops you get when driving through Night City are a thing of the past.

[@christophermullins7163]

Boom shakka lakka

[@svenolafson3032]

@@Lurch-Bot The game design has to be able to take advantage of the increased cache size, which is most often useful if the engine makes reads from the disk as it transitions through map space. Happy it worked for you.

[@dozebooster]

As someone who upgraded from 5700X to X3D, I clearly saw performance increase in MMO games like World of Warcraft. During raid with 10-15 players or in a dense populated area where a bunch of players are present, I can see my fps is increased significantly. b450, 3090, max setting, 1440p

[@sc_3433]

how does it perform on Dornogal? I have an i5 13400 and the fps deeps to the mig 50's

[@kevinerbs2778]

Is that dx9 mmo game?

[@sc_3433]

@@kevinerbs2778 its a dx12 game now, but its heavily cpu bound

[@stremstrem3632]

@@epikfayt4510 the pcie gen barely matters in performance, this has already been tested, nobody should buy a new motherboard solely to have pcie gen 4

[@asdfqwerty-u9n]

@@sc_3433 maybe - try wow with a nvidia 730 2 gb DDR4 in city and you feel the pain

[@manmansgotmans]

Great benchmark. I appreciate KCD being benchmarked here, since I've been playing it after the last few years of seeing it in your benchmarks occasionally

[@RandomGaminginHD]

One of the best games around!

[@Steve-go6oq]

I went from a 5600 to 5700X 3D with my RX 7700 XT. I don't care about averages as they were solid with the 5600 but the lows seem higher now so smoother gameplay in general.

[@ancientmadness-rlk]

The X3D seems to add 5-10C more to the temp while usually using less power. Cool video. :)

[@vicente3k]

And if u do an undervolt it's a win-win.

[@EBMproductions1]

Not the biggest issue however unless your cpu already was at 85c to 90c understand?

[@fleurdewin7958]

Because the silicon is now thicker, it hampers heat transfer abit. But 5700X3D only max out at 4.05Ghz for all cores workload. Certainly can do -30 on CO to get around 1.1V vcore.

[@yubos98]

Thank you for testing games that actually test the draw call bandwidth limit while not having the best multi-threading implementations in them! BG3 and KC:D - all great examples of games with very subpar multi-threading support that force large sprawling vistas filled to the brim with geometry into the camera frustum at any convenient moment! Well, BG3 doesn't really do that all that much until the 3rd Act, but still, the city of Baldur's Gate is exactly the kinda load a 3D vertical cache is supposed to help with: loads of unique, non-instanced meshes, shaders, logic, and textures loading all at once saturating the PCI-E "bridge" between the CPU and the GPU! If we could see the entire picture (aka: all cores stats for the process in the OSD), it'd be easy to notice how in both games, the CPU is heavily underutilized, only ever straining between 6 and 8 CPU threads, hinting that the game engine lacks optimization for parallel rendering instructions execution to take advantage of all CPU cores and threads, accordingly. In contrast, you can look at games like Cyberpunk 2077 or even Starfield, which utilize as much of the CPU resources as they can. Yes, before you type an angry reply, Starfield has questionable use of those resources, given that a lion's share of those are spent on calculating persistent physics-based (and, in my opinion, mostly useless) clutter, and arguably poorly culled meshes, but undoubtedly it uses what it is given as much as it's possible. If you see the CPU not being used to 99% - it's fine, it's actually good to not have it pegged all the way. Otherwise, your system wouldn't have any room for OS background processes and you'd experience massive unbearable and permanent stutter. Those 15-20% of CPU not being fully saturated mean that the OS is doing stuff in the background healthily, and that most likely if the GPU core isn't the bottleneck, then the bottleneck is somewhere else. It can be GPU memory, it can be system RAM, it can be disk I/O, i.e. you're running the game off of an HDD or something like Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart off of a SATA SSD instead of a PCI-E one, which results in assets not being able to load into VRAM fast enough, so the system has to "wait" for I/O to catch up. In terms of the 5700X vs 5700X3D discussion, I think as always it heavily depends on which games you play personally. For example, I find myself playing a lot of older games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. trilogy and all the amazing community mods as well as heavily modded Bethesda games, from Morrowind (using OpenMW), to Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, Skyrim:SE and Fallout 4. These games are older, and usually the best they can offer in terms of API support, is DX11. More often it's DX9. Now DX11 is very clumsy when it comes to handling large pools of rendering instructions as it lacks the level of parallelization realized in DX12 and Vulkan. For comparison, when the latter two can handle obscene amounts of draw calls in a scene, multiple tens of thousands, scaling pretty linearly without a hitch, DX11 crumbles and plummets into oblivion above anything in the lower teens of thousands. DX9/10 stops scaling adequately beyond 5-6 thousand. This is all gross oversimplification, but in essence, the 3D vertical cache on that Ryzen allows it to brute force some of those older games into behaving more adequately under super heavy draw call load, while also helping newer games which use DX11 as their primary API for whatever reason or have something wonky going on under the hood with the PSOs. Unfortunately, that 3D v-cache won't help if the problem lies not in rendering instructions overhead, but in, let's say, the game lacking a separate thread for physics calculations with that thread overbearing the CPU, or maybe some heavy logic is running on the same core as the rendering and physics threads. In those cases simply a faster clocked CPU would be a better fit. And herein lies the issue with the 5700X3D for me, personally. It's a CPU that would potentially solve some performance issues for me, while exacerbating others. It's the ultimate double-edged sword CPU. Ideally, someone like me would get a 7800X3D to solve all my woes at once, but a man can dream, while his wallet cries :D P.S. I think it's very important for people to understand why things do what they do. Computers have more parts than just a CPU and a GPU, and every part matters to a degree. They exist in a hierarchy, and given how vastly different and diverse computer applications are, you are bound to find that the "weakest link" of your PC is actually dynamic in nature and dependent on a particular application you're running. Thanks a ton for the video, Steve! I've been watching your channel for many years at this point, been subscribed since forever! Remember when you had just under 10k subs, to think you grew to over half a million is awesome and incredible to think about! I hope you're getting a kick out of it and hope to see many more videos from you in the future!

[@Deathscythe91]

x3d truly is a blessing for gaming

[@Fan_tome.]

I liked the way you presented the data and benchmarks. keep up the good work. :)

[@grahamhill4113]

Bought one off AliExpress a few months ago and never looked back. Coming from a 5600 and there was an immediate improvement in my gaming performance.

[@Mastermind12358]

Fun fact, if you are stuck with slow ram, then you'll be happy that its not as important to have fast ram on the 3D variant as it is on the non 3D regular CPU (lot of people get hyped about needing fast ram on Ryzen)

[@user-si5fm8ql3c]

stuck or "stuck" ? you can push pretty much all semi modern DDR4 modules to the common memory controller limit of 3800MT/s. Takes maybe 3 hour tuning and a overnight stability test or 2.

[@theodentherenewed4785]

You're very creative with your ideas for videos, it costs a lot of money to be able to make a video like this. 5700X3D has an excellent price-to-performance ratio these days.

[@bierrollerful]

Thanks - this is a very helpful video for somebody like me who bought a 5700X a few weeks before the X3D was announced :(

[@willywonka6487]

Yes. X3D is one of the most (and only) exciting tech lately.

[@Jokamutta]

This is really great to see! I just got the 5700X3D :)

[@Promis_QS_Panda]

I went from a 3600 to a 5700X3D and my goodness what an upgrade. I love it. I also took a chance and bought it from AliExpress and got it for around 130 USD. Its been 3 months and everything is fine so far. Best upgrade for my rig.

[@Zeltalu]

Upgraded from 5700x to 5700x3d a month ago and the general stability and smoothness in games makes all the difference. If you are on AM4 and play simulation games or large scale shooters x3d is very worth it.

[@NizarElZarif]

AMD struck gold with these x3D chips. I have a ryzen 5 3600 with an RTX 3060 ti and i was planning to upgrade 5700x3d when the price drops down. I almost bought one when a local retailer in Canada had these for in store purchase only for 200 CAD ~(145$ USD) but they were sold out when i got there.

[@wlewargusowy1592]

you have 3060 ti, you don't need x3d cpu. 5600x would be enough.

[@Lurch-Bot]

You cannot wait any longer to buy one. Stock is running low. They are now $209.99USD on Amazon, up almost 30% from the Prime Day special price I bought it at. If you don't mind a Chinese market one (will likely not be as good silicon as a NA market one), they are around $144 US currently. But, like I said. Don't wait any longer if you want one. It is a great way to keep your AM4 system going a few more years. You can run a 4090 just fine on a 5700X3D. And, even on a 3060Ti, it is going to make a substantial improvement over the 3600.

[@zfacersane272]

@@wlewargusowy1592wrong huge difference

[@EBMproductions1]

No he still does need a cpu upgrade just like i do with the rx6700 xt as we want smoothness not a jump in average fps. ​@@wlewargusowy1592

[@perspectiveflip]

its super worth it. Games feel like liquid butter.

[@jbscotchman]

I just installed a 5700X3D last night to replace my 5600X on my aging ASRock B450m Pro motherboard. Very nice performance boosts in most games and synthetic benchmarks, long live AM4!

[@3masouri]

Perfect timing on this video I’ve just installed my 5700X

[@hiRyan329329]

Rip, still at the end of the day the 5700x is a great cpu

[@pyroslev]

Went from a 5700G to a 5800X3D. Obviously a chunky upgrade but the 1% lows and the frame times were what made the greatest impression. That V-Cache makes a difference overall and really does insure your system will be upgradable for a long while if you're still on AM4 while still rocking an older chip.

[@Nirwanaa]

Upgraded from a 5700G. I used to lag in The Finals, during busy combats. Now with the 5700X3D it's very smooth, it was quite the upgrade for a very affordable price

[@monedg2471]

I'm using my 5700g with 7900gre for 1440p, do you think is worth the upgrade?, my mb is a b450m a ii(asus) pcie3

[@centurion8446]

Good to hear, I was thinking of swapping a 5700G for a 57003XD so to hear a direct comparison is good

[@astral6749]

0:38 love that glitch that you added there

[@Djoki1]

Very timely video as im planning to upgrade from my somewhat tired 3600. Thing still runs great with a very healthy 4.4ghz OC but it just isnt fast enough in some scenarios. Im gonna need a CPU upgrade anyway since a 2k 180Hz monitor is arriving next week. Cant wait to see more than 75Hz on a big screen.

[@hiRyan329329]

Its going to feel like a night and day difference. Definitely if you are the type of person who can actually tell when a game is microstuttering and its 1% lows are far below the "regular" framerate. Even in games where the big fat number stays the same those 1% lows are going to be so much closer and stable. I went from a 3600x to a 5600x and even that was a crazy difference, then I upgraded to a 5800x3d and it was another huge jump in smoothness. So expect some truly wonderful gains (GPU is a 3080 if wondering)

[@toufusoup]

0:23 only 3 pounds more?? That’s a steal! It costs nearly 30 USD more from where I’m looking at it, the X being around $115 and the X3D being $140-$145 😢

[@CrocoDylianVT]

$140 for a 5700X3D is still a steal, here they cost over $258 while the regular 5700X goes for $200 or more

[@mclarenf1gtr99]

For gaming I would say either go cheap with 5600X or go with 5700X3D. Both are still great, but 5700X3D is good if you aren't satisfied with just 60fps, or want some kind of future proof system.

[@perspectiveflip]

where I live the cheapest 5700x3d is 200€ / 220 usd

[@A.Froster]

Did this exact swap and absolutely yes, its worth it. Almost all games i play benefitted from it

[@etotheowl88]

I seriously can't wait for a 9950x3d to release. I was incredibly hesitant to buy a 7950x3d because of the core parking problems I heard alot about, instead I went 12900k and plan to sell it and the motherboard for the 9950x3d ok its release. Good video! I love 3d v cache

[@Vatolicious]

Got this chip a few months back. Definitely solid choice, very happy with it.

[@DBTHEGOD19]

Was looking for this video thank you 🙏

[@UbergamR447]

great video! thank you :)

[@SimonBannow]

wow thats actually a fair bit better, amazing info

[@nicksmith6463]

Thanks for this, I'm running a 3600 right now but I plan to upgrade to a 5700x3d within the next year or two, for now even the 3600 holds up remarkably well.

[@tyler6602]

Went from a 3600xt to a 5700x like 3 months before the 3d version came out, wish i would have waited

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Still a decent upgrade :)

[@ygsm1337]

Just remember, if you're hitting your intended FPS and monitors refresh rate. Dont stress cause of higher numbers on paper. Thats unhealthy. And a waste of money.

[@videogaminbiker889]

I made a similar mistake when I went from a 1700 to a 5600x bit before the 3d versions came out too. I also wish I had waited haha. My 1700 was slowly dying from being pinned to the wall with a high OC for a long time so I had to get something sooner rather than later.

[@aloisplacek4685]

Last week 5700x3d replaced after 5 and half years my 2600x in my B450 MSi Carbon pro ac. Super happy with this new CPU.

[@larsenmats]

Thanks for the video. 5700X3D owner here. Have it paired with an RX 7800 XT. I think 12400F/13400F/5600x and the likes are fine upto about RX 7700 XT levels. More GPU power than that I would go faster CPU. Like 5700X3D. Oh, btw I run my 5700X3D with minus 30 PBO on all cores. rock stable and boosts constantly to 4.05GHz under load. And uses upto about 80 Watts. I heard most/if not all 5700X3Ds will do minus 30 PBO just fine

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

I went from a 5600 to the 5700x3d and do not regret it at all. Sure in some games its not a large change, but when its better, its BETTER. Putting on low settings to hit a high frame rate is far better with the 3d version. Theres definitely more games you could test that show the consistency gains more but overall, great video.

[@wood6454]

This will be the processor for my next build! Used AM4 chips are finally getting cheaper. I prioritize core count and cache over frequency and efficiency and Broadwell Xeons and 5000 series X3D chips are my favorite! ❤❤❤

[@tomvandongen8075]

This video has come out at the absolute perfect time for me; right after i bought a 5700X3D 😅 let's hope i choose wisely!

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

I am honestly shocked by the difference, not just in FPS but the actual frametime graph. Even if the FPS isn't significantly higher, it will feel smoother. I love my 5600X but really wish I could replace it with a 5800X3D.

[@MasterCog999]

Super timely video as from what I have heard AMD is discontinuing production on the 5800X3D. This means that going forward the 5700X3D should be the fastest gaming AM4 chip in production and generally available for purchase new.

[@jakubknotek4891]

The production seems to be already stopped as the stock has run out like month or two ago in my country

[@zachmarshall6059]

Great video as always 👍

[@Seepling15973]

You should do more e-sports tiltes when testing processors as there you can better highlight the diffirences.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah it's harder to get direct side by side comparative footage though but I'll try and give it a go in future :)

[@Seepling15973]

@@RandomGaminginHD rainbow six siege has a integrated benchmark so you could try that :D

[@JeffWaynee]

Very useful video. Thanks!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Thanks for watching!

[@carbontuna4680]

In cpu heavy games (Squad, BeamNG Drive,) I saw a 75-100% increase in frames going from my 3700x to the 5700x3d. Truly an insane improvement for only 200 dollars.

[@justphilitup]

Never clicked on a video so fast. I was wondering this for an upgrade from a 2600x.

[@dragonman910]

If I decide to rock am4 for my next upgrade, I'm grabbing the 5700x3d. I was going to anyway because the 5600x3d and 5800x3d are micro center exclusive (the closest to me is about 5 hours away). This decision is even more likely because the other 5000x3d chips are now discontinued.

[@413fps]

5800x3d is not microcenter exclusive. It's just out of stock in most places (and probably we won't see new stock)

[@twanheijkoop6753]

Just switched from a 5800x to a 5800x3d, even with DR 4000c14 the improvement in frametimes is insane in some games. In the finals especially average fps barely changed but during heavy destruction there is a significant amount of reduction in the stutters almost eliminating them.

[@hiRyan329329]

Those 1% lows man, you can throw out that average fps number out and just rely on the 1% lows to see if you're going to have a good time. Its why I love the x3d cpus, they are so amazing for keeping those 1% lows (stutters) up and stable

[@AthanImmortal]

I love my 5800X3D, got it before the 5700X3D was around, but functionally the benefit in these chips is the 3DVcache and you get the same in both chips. They're amazing for smoothing out frame timings as well.

[@Usersf134ssk]

I upgraded from 5600 to 5700x3d, i play city skylines a lot and the smoothness is noticeable right away. Gone are the massive stutters which i thought was due to my old rx 5600xt 😂

[@hammadnadeemx]

My 5800x3d and 7900xtx still rock to this day !

[@martin73544]

Good video, thanks. Maybe a comparison with the midrange 3600 makes sense for people with budget who wants to improve his am4 platform

[@brandonupchurch7628]

Newegg had a crazy deal on the 5700X3D and 5800X a few weeks ago, they were massively discounted, just under $200 for the 5700X3d and $128 for the 5800X and they both had 32GB DDR4 3200 kits bundled with them.

[@fleurdewin7958]

But 3200 DDR4 is not optimal for Zen 3. AMD themselves recommend DDR4 3600. We enthusiast prefer to run it at least DDR4 3800 with FCLK 1900

[@hiRyan329329]

@@fleurdewin7958 Luckily with the x3d chips RAM speed is less of a issue than with the standard versions. Something about how the L3 cache and memory bus works on the x3d models that reduces the amount of gain from RAM speed.

[@staticbuzter452]

Huh, Cool. Currently on my first build i built back in 2022. 7 5700x and a 3060ti, 32 ram. Always wondered if x3D was worth it to upgrade but i feel like i have absolutely no need to mess with anything (except i went up from 16 of RAM). Was cool to see my rig be over the required and recommended (or between the two) of games releasing. Coming from a HP Omen Laptop with a 1050 and a 7th gen i7 from 2017.

[@Redmage913]

I upgraded from a 2200g to a 5700X3D. I’m amazed by the smoothness the new chip provides, even with a 4GB RX 480! I used to have a negative view of AsRock until my AB350M Pro4 board…

[@hiRyan329329]

They've really been rocking it since the Ryzen releases. Used to view them as the cheapo nobody but in their cheap and expensive lineups they work great. Had a Asrock X370 I got with my Ryzen 1600 (was an early adopter and was all I could afford), that board did so great I kept it for my 3600 upgrade which eventually went to my wife while I bought a Asrock X570 Taichi and a 5600x, upgraded again to a 5800x3d and threw that chip in a new pc that had a x570 Phantom (ITX board). And now I also have a B550 Taichi from them for a NAS/Media server because it housed 8 sata ports (pretty rare nowadays) and its now host to 80tb of media for Plex. Not once have I had any motherboard issues wheras I have issues with gigabyte and MSI in that timeframe

[@aliberkozderya3112]

Thanks a lot for testing and sharing. Have you enabled PBO before testing?

[@Northkalman]

Just got a 5700x3D with 1 year warranty two nights ago after trading my 6month old 5600 non-x and added $80 paired with my 6800XT on 1440p resolution. Noticed games are more smooth and snappy esp on my tested games like CS2, DotA 2, COD, Ghost of Tsushima and GoW 2018. Totally removed all the stuttering happening with my 5600.

[@h0w17z3r]

I feel like the real use case for these chips is vr applications, having to render a scene at 90hz (twice) is very hard and i personally felt an enormous uplift from my 5600 when i moved upto a 5800x3d, was almost night and day how much smoother games like pavlov or vrchat run on that processor. same 1070 ti on both instances but the 3d cache eats un-optimized game engines for breakfast.

[@hiRyan329329]

1% and .1% lows are absolutely imperative for VR and 1% lows are the x3d's main party trick. You can get a R9 5950x (16 core monster) and a 5800x3d will actually outperform it in games just cause the 3dv cache. Now in some games the 5950x will actually have better average fps but the 1% lows will be so much better on the x3d chip meaning you actually "feel" smoother fps. For absolutely smooth VR you want you 1% lows to be at or above 90fps at all times, as anything lower and you are no longer getting a actual 90fps experience (even if the average fps states you are getting something like 160fps)

[@igorfiuza144]

Nice work! But it'd be nice to redo these tests with something like a 7600 or a 4060 to better highlight the need (or lack thereof) of the 3DV-cache... And it would better represent the real life usage of such mid range CPUs anyways.

[@arseniogarcia8631]

Have the same set up with the 3D model and 4080 super. It's a good combo that has a lot of flexibility to be able to handle loads of different resolutions and settings depending on the game type. Was a very effective upgrade from my 5600x for sure

[@spoobspoob2270]

I upgraded from a 3600 to the 5700x3d and it blew me away. I was never able to see the importance of CPU performance until now. The smoothness and framerste improvement was unlike anything I've seen, and I'm now absolutely addicted to chasing maximum fps no matter what 😂😂

[@aghoraop2144]

Hey man , im currently in process of building my pc ... Because of both ddr5 and am5 mobo costs more than an entry level humble r5 7600 , im forced to go with am4 ( and ya im totally locked with budget 650$ usd , im in india - its hell lot of costiler here ) ..im going with ryzen 5 5500 and a rx6600 ...and 16 gigs of ram ..please do make a video on this combo ... I know you had done many , but they were like a year old... Btw , I've been watching your vids since you were at like 50k Subs... Super happy for how far you've come...cheers mate - love from india.

[@yeti4269]

The jump from my 5800x to the 3D has been crazy

[@TheHangarHobbit]

Thanks for the vid, I'll stick with my 5700x non 3D as I doubt on my midrange GPU I'd see enough difference to bother, and that money can be better spent getting a better GPU down the line.

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

I was hoping for this. I had a 5600x that I swapped up to a 5700x3d and it was an excellent decision. I was already swapping gear and had enough leftovers from other builds that it cost me nothing outside of clearing some old tech. I had been holding out for a 5800x3d but I wont stay in this chipset long enough to pay for the performance difference. Not paying is always a better result.

[@propjoe1060]

I have a 5800X3D and it was absolutely worth the extra cash. I play World of Warcraft and the extra L3 cache has made a huge difference to performance.

[@MrMrGuy]

I initially regretted purchasing the 5700X3D to upgrade from the 5700X. After doing a lot of gaming on the 5700X3D, there was noticeable improvement in FPS and overall smoothness. The 5700X3D is definitely worth it.

[@kasperbrown4145]

Agreed went from a 5700g to 5700x3d lol

[@christophermullins7163]

@@kasperbrown4145 you went from 16mb to 96mb of cache. Id hope the difference was felt there. Thing is.. the x3d CPU is clocked much lower than the other CPUs. In situations that need frequency, the x3d can absolutely be a regression in performance. This is why the 9000x3d is going to be a good jump over 7000x3d. 9000x3d will have basically the same frequency as the non x3d so the uplift for vcache will be much higher than with previous vcache releases. 5700x to x3d should be 10% and maybe 20% for lows but -10% for production tasks.

[@ChrisGrump]

@@christophermullins7163 The low clock speed put me off at first. I still bought it and i must say, it smooth sailing. Beats the 5600x in everything i do.

[@DavideDavini]

I upgraded from a 2700X. I didn’t have any concerns it could be slower in anything. 😂

[@stangamer1151]

Depends on the memory speed. If 5700X is paired with fast and tuned RAM, it is almost as fast as 5700X3D.

[@zombinawaifu8918]

i recently went from the 5700x to the 5700x3d, and it helped massively in Escape from Tarkov when paired with my 6900xt that game is so unoptomized so having the 3d cache helps a lot, i saw nearly a double FPS increase at 1080p when playing on the map Streets, which is known as being the worst map for performance, went from between 40-60fps to 70-90fps

[@Howch125]

I got a 5800x when it was a new part. I am defiantly tempted by the 3D variant, especially as it would slot straight into my system. The price is still to high to justify it just yet though. I will defiantly be keeping my eye on the used market for when I can pick one up for a good price :)

[@lukaszkaszak]

Same. What graphic card do you use with your 5800x?

[@F3rum]

Same here. I feel like my 5800x is fine for everything @2560x1440 with a 7800xt. Buuuut I will keep an eye out if there is a good offer on the used market.

[@lukaszkaszak]

@@F3rum thanks for the respond. I'm currently using 6750xt and thinking what to upgrade next. Should it be a graphic card now or wait for X3D processor to be cheaper and buy it instead.

[@Maitreya3001]

Great video as always! Have you had positive experience buying CPUs from Aliexpress? I'm kinda scared buying it from there and get scammed

[@oswaldjh]

The 5700X was in my backup PC paired with a RX 7600 XT and it had a lot of unlocked overclocking parameters in the AMD Adrenalin Software. When I installed the 5700X3D the CPU section of AMD Adrenalin Software was not present. All you can do with the X3D is use PBO in the BIOS which is fine because the X3D are tuned at the factory.

[@ralphpurves]

You can use Ryzen Master but from all accounts it is virtually impossible to overclock it as it seems to throttle itself back down to spec.

[@oswaldjh]

@@ralphpurves AMD Adrenalin Software incorporates a cut down Ryzen Master only if the CPU is designed for OC. My Ryzen 5600 / RX 6700 XT shows both GPU and CPU parameters but no CPU on any X3D CPUs I own.

[@fleurdewin7958]

If you set anything in the PBO related to PPT EDC, TDC , the 5700X3D will get stuck at 3.6Ghz. The only you should do as an owner of that CPU is to set the Curve Optimizer to -30 for all cores. That's it, guarantee you to run at 4050Mhz for all cores in games. Default vcore is too high for a max single core boost 4.15Ghz CPU .

[@oswaldjh]

@@fleurdewin7958 My CPU is stable at with a curve optimizer set at -25

[@ant5963]

thanks this has made my mind up i will upgrade my 5700x to 5700x3d it seems worth it for the 1%'s alone

[@HiTechReviewsUK]

I have a 5800X3D and upgraded from a 5600X. BF1 took a big advantage, I had a 3060Ti and the 5600X slightly bottlenecked in some CPU intensive game engines (2560x1440, 144hz) Tarkov also benefits from much tighter frametimes. Where the 3D cache is utilised properly it's a great improvement! The 5800X3D will be running for a good few years yet!

[@Jomenaa]

Some beautiful day I will upgrade my R5 3600 to 5700X3D or its big brother. No hassle upgrade on my B450 Tomahawk MAX :) Just need the money...

[@ChrisGrump]

My x3d just arrived today. Gonna swap my 5600x out after work.

[@hiRyan329329]

One comparison worth seeing too would be the 5800x (non 3d) vs the 5700x3d as sometimes they are similar in price and I've made the argument to my gaming peers that its actually a better call to go with the x3d chipset for those 1% lows alone. AMDs 3dv cache is such a lovely improvement, I normally get motion sickness in games when they are stuttering behind the scenes and going from a 5600 to a 5800x3d has made so many of my games such a better experience since they no longer stutter

[@potatobuilds]

Still Rocking my R7 5700X and it holds strong to this day. When I think about AMDs latest CPU today the 9000 Series I suddenly feel old😶. I still love my CPU tho. This is going to be my final AM4 build before switching to the AM5 socket in the future

[@MrPhyxsyus]

I went from a 3700x to a 5700x3d and it was nigth and day, I'm really impressed.

[@ShaneSimpson1]

I just upgraded from a 5600g to a 5700x3d that was on sale for prime day flash sale for $120 best upgrade to the same socket I have ever made!

[@yourfavoritelawnguy2722]

i went from a 3700x to a 5800x3d. Absolutely love it

[@thefreakhouse]

Gonna be getting a 5700x3d on black Friday, gonna be a nice little boost over my 5600

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Nice :)

[@joe653]

I just got my 5700x3D from AliExpress for £139 shipped and it works fine

[@hrvojemilicevic3309]

Don't do it unless you have RTX 4070 super or better card

[@slayerkhan01]

@@hrvojemilicevic3309 i have 5600 currently thinking of upgrading gpu from 1660 super to 3060ti but i was thinking that i should get higher gpu but then i think that my processor might effect any higher gpu than 3060ti or 6700xt. i mostly play fps games and i have 165hz . in my opinion 3060ti would be perfect but i won't be able to upgrade it for atleast 5 years. kindly your thoughts

[@evers6214]

Keep an eye on prices. With the 5800x3D being discontinued i don’t know how long the 5700x3d will be available

[@joaorovira]

First of all, great work. Keep up 💪 In your final words you're making an assumption instead of really testing. You should really test on mid-range/entry level graphics card because I'm sure you're wrong in your statement by saying that the performance are even more closer. It's the opposite though. I'm not even talking about the setup you choose which creates a significant bottleneck on the cpu. Consider to test it, and stop making assumptions.

[@FoxArcher]

This video could have answered a pressing question I have had for a while. If only you could test the comparison with Skyrim while running the Eldergleam wabbajack mod list.

[@jimtekkit]

I haven't got my hands on the X3D chips yet because I don't game enough to justify buying one. My last-chance AM4 CPU upgrade was the 5950X recently and I'm loving how good the silicon quality is (it does 5.05GHz on almost half of the cores at stock settings).

[@psully311]

What I take from this is, I own a 5700x & 3700x system. Have thought about the 5700x3d since hearing about it, but honestly I feel it'd be a pointless upgrade & I'd be hard pressed to see an actual difference in 5700x vs 5700x3d. Thank you for the comparison video!

[@hiRyan329329]

In games that used the 3dv cache properly (about 60% of games made in the last 8 years I've noticed) you should notice a 10-30fps gain in 1% lows alone. If almost all you do is game on your PC its a no brainer upgrade. Like I honest don't care at all about average fps (the main number) its those 1% lows which end up making the game feel buttery smooth when they are actually close to your fps target. A game running 120fps but with 1% lows at 60fps is just a 60fps game, if anything its somehow worse than just putting on Vsync at 60fps because you are getting a constant variance which can be nauseating (if you've ever gotten those headaches after some hours of gaming this can be a huge contributor). 1% lows is what you truly feel and I always recommend putting on a counter that shows it and adjusting settings to get that above 70fps in each game

[@ClickingPixels]

Like some others have mentioned, the X3Ds Excell at smoothness, going from a 3600 to a 5800X3D blew my mind about a year ago

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah definitely improved consistency for me in a lot of games

[@ecu4321]

timing of the news that the 5800x3d is being discontinued and is being replaced by the 5700x3d, keeping the am4 platform competitive with current processors

[@AJRod21298]

Just swapped my 5700x for a AliExpress 5700x3d last week. Gained some frames and helps a lot with stutters. Selling my 5700x to a coworker. About a 25 dollar upgrade all said and done

[@laurenceoliveranderson9401]

Short answer: ye Long answer: yes

[@luc-perrin]

I just upgraded to the 5700x3D from a 5600x because i didn't feel like doing a whole platform upgrade to AM5 or Intel and worry about getting DDR5. Has been a pretty good upgrade for me since I was aiming for 1440p high settings gaming and I upgraded to the 6750xt from a 1070ti, and needed something that matched the gpu

[@TKIvanov]

I did order a 5700X3D from AliExpress a couple of months ago. It ended up not being delivered for some reason (I live in Eastern EU. The CPU went to fckin Netherlands then it came here AND WAS IMMEDIATELY RETURNED, the post office phone lady said she had no information why it was returned) but I did get a full refund and ended up buying a 2nd hand 5800X3D (which was my original goal, it just was looking impossible to find one (thats not overpriced)) and I'm absolutely thrilled with it. My 4th AM4 CPU (2600 in Q4 2019, 3600X on BF 2020, 5600X mid 2022 and now this one)

[@dirtybrokkoli]

I've decided to upgrade when i saw an 5700x3d for a low price. Thought i give my girlfriend my old 5700x. The fun part was when the cpu was stuck on the cooler and after i lifted it up it fell to the ground, a certified linus tech tips moment and an expensive lesson. The performance difference for me wasn't as noticeable i think but i bought it mostly for "futureproofing" since i mostly game on this machine and don't do much work where single core performance mattered that much.

[@MangoSurF746]

The x3d shows big numbers in CPU intensive games like valorant cs2 that's the big reason people buy this cpu

[@Chill_Mode_JD]

Nice timing I just bought the 5700x3d so I could give wife my 5800x to replace her 5600g She does kitchen and bath design with CAD and needs the extra cpu power where as I only game and edit so I should be fine if not better in some games 💯

[@lvmarv1]

Yes, they are worth the extra cash. I have a 7800x3D and my wife inherited my old 5800x3D. Our PCs are for gaming only so as long as 3D v-cache chips exist that is what we will buy. Even she noticed the difference going to the 5800x3D, and she doesnt usually notice these things at all.