Randy Pedersen's Pro Tips | Why Are Pro Bowlers So Good?

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Жыл бұрын

PBA Hall of Famer Randy Pedersen talks bowling basics with your personal bowling style, a good warmup and practice routine, bowling terminology and he explains why pro bowlers are so good.
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@ianandersen265
@ianandersen265 Жыл бұрын
Mike Miller didn't just throw a 300 on tv: he did it when they were using heavier gold colored pins, a promotion used to distinguish the pros from the amateurs. Gold pins were discontinued because it was harder to see on camera and in real life. Yellow or neon green would have been a better color.
@BillyDaGoat1017
@BillyDaGoat1017 Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s scoring…still 300.
@TraumaER
@TraumaER Жыл бұрын
@@BillyDaGoat1017 300 nowadays aren’t all that. Had a teammate last week throw another. He got a few high fives but most people were like “meh where is my beer order?”
@adanomics5997
@adanomics5997 Жыл бұрын
Your not supposed to focus much on the pins. Suppose to focus on the arrows dots and boards more
@ianandersen265
@ianandersen265 Жыл бұрын
@@adanomics5997 And to a smaller degree, those arrows 45 ft away, give you more information as to where the break point is, or where you threw your ball.
@adanomics5997
@adanomics5997 Жыл бұрын
@@ianandersen265 true... once I figured out it's about the markings and oil my average shot up about 70 pins
@nobobypartiallyimportant1142
@nobobypartiallyimportant1142 Жыл бұрын
This video is incredibly timely and a career saver. I have a powerful, unique style (High rev, high ball speed) but it reduces me to using balls such as the Radical Spy to be controllable at the 15 to 7 line. Otherwise I'm reduced to using a 26 to 10 line on house patterns. I normally average 193 on league but on sport patterns, I average 214. I have never had a coach, so I appreciate this video greatly. Thank you
@nobobypartiallyimportant1142
@nobobypartiallyimportant1142 Жыл бұрын
To add to the severity, I nearly quit my dream to play in the PBA last week.
@brianmenzies7007
@brianmenzies7007 Жыл бұрын
Randy is one of my favorite players. Smooth as silk delivery. Too bad we don't see more of you
@scottashley3906
@scottashley3906 Жыл бұрын
Perfect advise Randy! It couldn’t have been said better! Thanks
@dancahill1812
@dancahill1812 9 ай бұрын
Randy is a great guy!
@anthonyjacksonjr4812
@anthonyjacksonjr4812 Жыл бұрын
Great work Randy. 👍🏾
@tigertolliver5199
@tigertolliver5199 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!!
@TimothyLittle13
@TimothyLittle13 Жыл бұрын
Surprised Walter Ray wasn't mentioned
@michelem189
@michelem189 Жыл бұрын
What about the late great Earl Anthony? I think every bowler should at least know who he is.
@reinnegroni8462
@reinnegroni8462 Жыл бұрын
Or Tom Baker to Ernie Schlegel, Marshall Holman to the late, great Mark Roth. Lots of them weren’t mentioned in Randy’s bowling playlist.
@Lange0716
@Lange0716 2 ай бұрын
@@reinnegroni8462 Randy definitely isn't mentioning Schlegel, that's for sure!!
@Banana69999
@Banana69999 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@92matdin
@92matdin Жыл бұрын
good info😊
@scottythompson940
@scottythompson940 Жыл бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling
@alexischeeseman4699
@alexischeeseman4699 9 ай бұрын
Amazing 😍
@Kawboy65
@Kawboy65 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@john125489
@john125489 Жыл бұрын
Muito bom , só d assistir esses tipos de vídeos, pude aprender a jogar bem ,não tão bem como belmonte rsrs
@joshuablakely4068
@joshuablakely4068 Жыл бұрын
With my style I don’t use a thumb so who I look at that fits my style is Mike Miller (after Randy said about him in this video) and Tom Daugherty
@SirJoelsuf1
@SirJoelsuf1 Жыл бұрын
3:18 After seeing Mika whiff that 10 pin I just realized that he muscled the ball A LOT. And on that spare in particular it looked the ball threw him.
@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan
@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan Жыл бұрын
I tried bowling two hands in my bowling alley, I admit it was not pretty, I used a one swing with my thumb. That is my comfort zone and I play better that way than I do two hands. I was taught by my bowling center to win in a league or be a better bowler, you got to make your spears.
@joluma09
@joluma09 Жыл бұрын
Randy,what’s the 8pin?
@ZaQ3
@ZaQ3 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t this a reupload?
@nikocayetano1805
@nikocayetano1805 Жыл бұрын
Ye
@CharlieH65
@CharlieH65 Жыл бұрын
I'd sure seen it before.
@itsdaley
@itsdaley Жыл бұрын
In my league I'm seen as the most versatile player everyone has there game and if it's not working for them it's not a good night for them but with me I practice the straighter up 5 and hooking the lane so I've always got options 😁, oh and I also practice backup ball just incase lol
@garla5851
@garla5851 Жыл бұрын
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ! ! ?? I A M !! 🤯
@michianabaddriversin4690
@michianabaddriversin4690 Жыл бұрын
Been bowling Mike Miller style since 1990
@greglockrow2094
@greglockrow2094 Жыл бұрын
I think the pros we see had a lot of talent as a youth ,got good coaching through school and or collage ..won a few regional tournaments..then made the leap ..most don’t make a lot of money on tour ..the pro shot is tons harder than house shot…you won’t be avg 240 on pro tour..yet pros go to home and avg 250 with ease..many great bowlers did this with a plastic ball to boot!!so keep practing!!..
@cybersteel8
@cybersteel8 Жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload?
@supersentallupinurmouf
@supersentallupinurmouf Жыл бұрын
Consistency is key
@TraumaER
@TraumaER Жыл бұрын
I bowl 210s consistently lol. Rarely string 5+ strikes together. Rarely bowl under 170 lol.
@supersentallupinurmouf
@supersentallupinurmouf Жыл бұрын
@@TraumaER that's a good consistency problem to have lol
@TraumaER
@TraumaER Жыл бұрын
@@supersentallupinurmouf happened again last night in league. Only got 12 strikes and 2 opens. Not so great overall. Bowled a 215 high game LOL.
@Riz2336
@Riz2336 3 ай бұрын
Never heard the term shim before
@jesse75
@jesse75 23 күн бұрын
Because they are good at the double jump rule.
@scottrichardson6226
@scottrichardson6226 Жыл бұрын
Start as a ten year old when your dad runs a nice bowling center then come home from school and bowl dailyfrom 3:30 pm until leagues start at 7pm. Bowl at least 100 games a week and if you have the talent you will improve and reach Pro levels!
@GTAGAMER-qj5fr
@GTAGAMER-qj5fr Жыл бұрын
How do I join a pba team and actually contest
@levii44444
@levii44444 Жыл бұрын
does anyone know what happened to mike miller?
@montegustafson5142
@montegustafson5142 Жыл бұрын
Mike is a co-owner of Ten Pins and More bowling center in Rio Rancho New Mexico. Health issues have kept him from tour level bowling and more recently bad knees have put him on the sidelines. Still a funny, serious, offbeat guy.
@bladeknockingon700
@bladeknockingon700 Жыл бұрын
They forgot stone 8 at the end.
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 Жыл бұрын
Anyone starting the game from scratch today, such as children, teens or adults taking on a new sport, needs to start two handed if they have any ambitions of making the sport a career or a money making endeavor. The two handers have such an advantage in terms of rev rate and the fact that taking the thumb out of the ball eliminates "squeezing" and other release variables the two handers do not have. There is a reason that two best bowlers in the world are Belmonte and Simonsen. Sports evolve. The tour used to be straight and "down and in" before Mark Roth and then Pete Weber brought the "big hook" and "cranking" into the spotligh in the 70s and 80. In 20 years with more and more of the kids and teens starting out two handed and even some adults switching to two hands, there are going to be few, if any, competitive one handers left at the middle and top ends of the sport.
@SirJoelsuf1
@SirJoelsuf1 Жыл бұрын
Um no. Throughout the 2010s, Liz Johnson was routinely beating nearly EVERYONE in regional tournaments. Her RPMs are in the mid 100s. Ball speed is like 18. And yet she was destroying everybody in local PBA competitions just hurling her ball up 10. RPMs don't instantly give a bowler an advantage. If that was true, then all I would need to do to bowl better would be to not take any steps at all and hook the whole lane. Doesn't work that way. Your RPMs need to be matched up with your ball speed, you need to have the right ball in your hand for the condition you're bowling on, and you need to be looking at the right target down lane.
@chrishenze5284
@chrishenze5284 Жыл бұрын
@@SirJoelsuf1 yep
@JimHancock
@JimHancock 11 ай бұрын
2 handed bowlers are ruining the game.......Belmonte grew up in his families bowling alley...... with that kind of advantage he would have done just as well or better if he would have bowled properly...... I would be embarrassed to bowl with 2 hands.......
@mtrithart
@mtrithart Жыл бұрын
I agree about finding your style, but be careful. Some styles can cause injury. There are many styles out there that cause serious injury to your back, knee, shoulder, elbow, wrist, or even knuckles.
@jam7547
@jam7547 Жыл бұрын
Two honest question please only honest replies 1.. once you release ball why say anything thing the ball can't hear you..2 is it really a fair for the two handed to be allowed a 66 year single hand. Bowl can't rev it that much.. sorry one more how can I watch live bowling on TV
@stevendefeo8424
@stevendefeo8424 Жыл бұрын
I’ll stick with one handed bowling.
@SKRUBL0RD
@SKRUBL0RD Жыл бұрын
because they have endless free balls to get drilled every which way and tour reps who sit behind and watch the ball motion and make recommendations the players can't see themselves.
@lawrencetaylorii2920
@lawrencetaylorii2920 Жыл бұрын
I thought Bob Benoit was the first one to throw a 300 with no thumb
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 Жыл бұрын
A lot of good bowlers practice a lot but they tend to practice bad habits. Pro bowlers practice good habits. Pro bowlers do it for a living. That naturally gives you more incentive TO practice obviously
@SirJoelsuf1
@SirJoelsuf1 Жыл бұрын
The pros are good because they loft the cap while the plebs are trying to play up the gutter. Or they play up the gutter while the plebs are trying to loft the cap.
@barkanellichasingdreams4142
@barkanellichasingdreams4142 Жыл бұрын
Why are not all the best players in the PBA?
@christophersiber1164
@christophersiber1164 Жыл бұрын
They forgot Brooklyn
@reinnegroni8462
@reinnegroni8462 Жыл бұрын
Really Randy? And you say that Osku was the first person to do two hands? And Jason does 2nd with two hands? No argument on that call, way after an orthodox shots, they can use a breakpoint of their swing.
@MrZocor
@MrZocor 3 ай бұрын
They aren't that much better actually. I guy in the league that I bowl in got an 848. Almost consistently bowls a 7 or better. Doesn't matter the conditions.
@3gon3_87
@3gon3_87 Жыл бұрын
They’re good because it’s their full time job / career. Duh 😂
@wr3ckr270
@wr3ckr270 Жыл бұрын
Not wrong advice advice but I dont like how you totally undermine the fact that pros pretty much got unlimited infrastructure/support/equipment/money and are overprivileged as fuck. Think about what an amateur able to throw 869 over 3 could do with a pros infrastructure.
@dtjrealmc
@dtjrealmc Жыл бұрын
cuz they cheat and have a rapid heat or cool down microwave method like Belmo.. Also the one handers have a Wrist of Thor, while the 2 handers go for rapid speed and creating their crease in the land, righty/lefty no matter.. 2 hander should be a duckball sport. or Maybe cradling a baby and rolling dinosaur eggs is what created the Caveman and the sport of bowling.. one hand, two hand, no thumb, your mom is watching and is proud
@nickneff6926
@nickneff6926 Жыл бұрын
after all the year and years of saying we cant switch to left hand to pick up splits from the left to cover the 10 pin.. now its magically allowed to throw backup with this 2 handed business. i know people who had to become sanctioned with each hand and hold 2 different averages.. now you can use both at once??? how does this work exactly.. i call it cheating.. its not bowling im sorry.. i respect 1 hand no thumb because you have to create way more balance with the thumb out of the ball than you do with it in.. the fact that when using 2 hands you can adjust the axis so drastically its literally the same as using either hand you want at any given time you want and that is absolutely cheating take the 2, 8, 10.... a right hander should not be able to pick that up as easily as a 2 hander just changing the axis to become a backup ball... thats such bs the 3 9 7 is what a lefty would be challenged with thats what makes it fair... i cant believe this happened to bowling.. sad..
@Knife66out
@Knife66out Жыл бұрын
Adapt. I played around with “two handed” release for a bit. Things to take from it. It’s a one handed release with support. It allows more support of the ball and the ball comes off more natural. It takes more athleticism than people give bowlers credit for. It’s also very hard to be accurate at first and creates timing and balance issues. I can throw a backup ball and if I’m struggling to make my 10 pin with the plastic, I throw a backup ball. If I leave a 2,4,8,10, I throw a backup ball. Versatility is key. This is the same argument I hear from fans of the 3 yards and a cloud of dust American football “purists” and the small ball baseball guys. As athletes get better, sports change. This doesn’t mean that you have to be a two hander, I’m not. It does mean that you can look at your game and see how you can use the advantages you have to improve your scores. I’m not angry about a two hander getting carry or a guy throwing all Brooklyn strikes. Focus on you and the sport will be more enjoyable.
@nickneff6926
@nickneff6926 Жыл бұрын
@@Knife66out its not right i spend 20 years developing a style of real bowling the way its meant to be played for a couple goons to come in and wipe out all real bowling records.. its maddening beyond belief. i hear you and appreciate your response but the revs generated when you throw with two palms on the ball is such that you dont even need to be as accurate as your are saying because of the insane pin carry you get from the added power. i quit bowling in 2018 i had it.. literally only people winning local or tour tourneys are two handers.. im telling ya theres a major advantage.. soon there wont be any real bowlers and thats my issue with it.. its something different and its taken over.. sad..
@Knife66out
@Knife66out Жыл бұрын
@@nickneff6926 it’s not just a couple of goons. Watch the consistency in their release and the accuracy in the numbers provided during telecasts. Every style has its unique advantages. That’s what makes the sport fun. The equipment/ lane surface change made things tougher for a while. I started when I was 18 and took 10 years off while in the army. I had to learn/ am still learning how to release better. Initially, my average dropped 30 + pins. But learned to adapt and talked with coaches and even better bowlers about lane conditions, equipment, how they adjust. Not everything they told me worked in my game. I have finally breached 200 average again and have had some really good scores. I don’t compare my scores with the bowler next to me. I focus on what I am capable of. There will always be innovation and change in every sport. It keeps the game worth coming back.
@nickneff6926
@nickneff6926 Жыл бұрын
@@Knife66out if i were to take up 2 handed bowling id average 90.. its a totally different game.. but the people who start out doing that develop very differently than real bowlers.. the power you generate is immense and totally unfair when facing a 1 handed bowler.. not even robert smith could get revs like that.. im not trying to argue.. but it should not be allowed..
@Knife66out
@Knife66out Жыл бұрын
@@nickneff6926 following that logic, lefties, backup balls and plastic spare balls should be banned. My dad sounded like that when reactive resin came out. He’s very thankful that he has resin now. At 68 years old, a thirteen pound urethane ball still does the trick for him. He’s not high rev, or high speed. Reactive did force him to move away from just shooting it up the 10 board.
@scotty2221
@scotty2221 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, the PROs are not always that good. PRO means you earn money doing the job. Can earn more in amateur brackets than what most PROS make on tour. Most of the PROS, lose money on Tour. Only the top 20 in the world cash.
@SirJoelsuf1
@SirJoelsuf1 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. I'd much rather average 205 and get some handicap so that I can destroy everyone in brackets/high game/eliminators than go on tour and maybe cash if I average 240.
@chinanumberone7723
@chinanumberone7723 Жыл бұрын
I have watched this before… lame
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