Echowebb acoustic guitar bridge removal securing and cleating separation in the top

[@JunkyardGirl79]

Man thanks, Randy! I've been looking for a video that addressed tear out after you remove the bridge. Great video!

[@RosaStringWorks]

I've seen some tuff ones over the years so I can relate. Good job brother.

[@RandySchartiger]

Thanks Jerry! Yeah you'd never known the bridge was pulling off from it being so hard to remove, it does look like hyde glue was used but sure didn't react to heat the way hyde glue does.

[@AvaPxiaO]

wrong video, that is Rosa's area, hydes, and wood, and fish ...

[@myacousticblues]

More fun from the house that never sleeps! ;-) Happy New Year to you and yours Randy!

[@RandySchartiger]

Thanks brother Happy New Year to you and yours!

[@steveharris2589]

Good video Randy, you will soon be ready do deal with the neck.🎸🎸🎸👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😊

[@RandySchartiger]

Yep, I took the neck completely off last night and talked to the owner, gonna do a neck reset on this puppy! Videos coming soon! Thanks Steve!

[@jonahguitarguy]

I used a clothes iron for a long time then up graded to the heat blanket from LMI. A big improvement for sure. I use it for fretboard extensions as well. Always a good time taking guitars apart. Happy New Year Randy

[@RandySchartiger]

I used to have a small blanket but when I started doing this work again in 2009 it stopped working, I really liked it and am going to get another one eventually, I like the fact you can lay them over the wings of the bridge and get heat there as hot as the rest of the bridge, hard to get the wings hot with this iron. Thanks for tuning in Dane and Happy New Year!

[@CesarAllGuitar]

A tough cookie but `i am sure you are going to fix it as always, Randy. Another great video.

[@RandySchartiger]

Fun times! Yeah it's going to be a huge job overall! Took the neck off last night and will be doing a reset very soon! Many thanks Cesar for tuning in and commenting!

[@kathrynnewton8721]

Thank you, my bridge has chipped and I wondered how I’d get it off to replace!

[@aukinotanga4530]

Could of used this vid a yr ago. I heated off a bridge on an old suzuki guitar that clouded the laminate top from the iron. The iron temp and cardboard cover in your vid would of saved the top finish. Oh well, live and learn. Great watch. thanks

[@RandySchartiger]

Yep that much heat can make a lot of unwanted things happen if it goes in unwanted places. I try to use as little heat as I can get by with. Thanks for watching!

[@aukinotanga4530]

oh, the other thing. I was curious how you got the fibre piece off the underside of the saddle. bit of heat and a knife? Vid of that would of been good.

[@RandySchartiger]

aukino tanga I just used a single edge razor blade and was able to cut it off without damaging it. Never used heat for that.

[@suzannacrawford6447]

I see Earl's been back again!!! I could tell!! You did a great job...Hooold Ooon:D

[@RandySchartiger]

LOL! Yep! I almost got it wiped off before the camera started rolling lol Thanks Suzanna and Happy New Year!

[@suzannacrawford6447]

Happy New Year!!!!

[@EdDanaGuitar]

Boss! The PLANE! THE PLANE! Cheers brother. Happy new year! I like your temperature thingy! Getting sophisticated! Wish I had that when my kids were little! lol!

[@RandySchartiger]

hahaha yes! I use it on the grand kids all the time and it's fast! Thanks for tuning in brother and Happy New Year to you and Lynda/Linda not sure of the spelling but... and CHEERS!

[@EdDanaGuitar]

Lynda!

[@RandySchartiger]

Ed Dana I was thinking it was Lynda but then my thinking this close to new years isn't too good if ya know what I mean lol

[@EdDanaGuitar]

Randy Schartiger yep.... lol..

[@dalepal]

Nice job removing the bridge and gluing the crack.

[@RandySchartiger]

Thanks Dale! Man I was almost 2 hours getting this bridge off! Unusual for a bridge already lifting.

[@TheTruthRocks]

That glue may have been Titebond III. It is 100% waterproof (unlike the Titebond I and II formulations) and it stands up to heat much better than the I and II recipes. Happy new year, Randy!

[@RandySchartiger]

You could be right! Heat did very little to it, the reason a few fiber ripped out too! Thanks for watching and a Very Happy New Year to you and yours as well my friend!

[@PaArmyVet]

Nice job getting that bridge off but Earl said he coulda got er done in a minute with a hammer and chisel LOL happy New Year brother!

[@RandySchartiger]

Some of the old timers used to take bridges off with a hammer and chisel lol I don't think I could do it. Yeah man ole Earl could probably get that bridge off with his tongue! lol Thanks for viewing mate!

[@cliveclive54]

Great vid mate,Happy New Year to you and the family

[@RandySchartiger]

Many thanks mate! Happy New Year to you and yours as well! And cheers! :)

[@efilnikcufecin9333]

I knew you had a plan...lol.. Sounds like a damn good one too. 2 hours on that bridge must have been a bit aggravating though. But you got it and that's all that matters. I totally understand the not thinking so clearly the closer it gets to the New Year. Things have been a bit fuzzy here for a few days...lol ..But it's all good. I might not think that way when Life starts to get a bit more in focus though...haha. CHEERS TO YA, BROTHER AND HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR!!! Catch you on the next one.

[@RandySchartiger]

Yeah it was a real battle getting that bridge off! I forgot to turn the camera on a few times lol Because of the glue not reacting to heat well caused a few fibers to pull loose but it wasn't anything bad. I've removed a LOT of bridges that weren't pulling up that came off easier than this one did. Just WOW! It pays to use the right glue! Gonna reset the neck on this puppy and glue it back on and do away with all the nuts and bolts, it'll never come off again! Happy New Year brother! I hope it's a great one for you and your family!

[@CrawfishParish]

Great Job as always...Happy new Year my Friend.

[@RandySchartiger]

Many thanks my good friend! Happy New Year to you and yours as well!

[@jilliankukla7309]

hey randy thanks for a great video, I've got a taylor 814ce that has a top separation. I've already healed it some with humidification, and i'd like to try that glue trick you used to the top so what is the name of the glue you used for that repair?

[@mikemagnum7987]

Randy, a thought regarding bridge attachment is rattlin around in my head! Why not configure a port hole into the top of the guitar where just the saddle and string holes come up and protrude to the proper height while the rest of the bridge remain on the under side where it would ride flush against the wood? String tension alone would hold the bridge firmly in place against the wood providing good firm contact and that kind of bridge installation would eliminate relying on gluing the bridge to the surface where it obviously provides a weak joint subject to failure over time. I think that the configuration that I describe would be a much better solution and would be trouble free throughout the instruments life span. Of course, my bridge would depend on proper design qualities to make it viable, but I am thinking that it might be worth the trouble. Have I described this concept adequately to get the idea? If not, let me know and we can make arrangements for private correspondence if you are interested.

[@RandySchartiger]

Your idea seems like it should work! But it's getting really close to new years eve and I'm not thinking too cleanly right now lol It does sound like it should work tho, basically mount the entire bridge inside the body and only have the saddle on the outside if I'm understanding you right, and the string tension holding the bridge in place. Hmmmm I'll have to think about this when I can think clearer =D Happy New Year Mike and thanks for watching!

[@mikemagnum7987]

Sorry to hear that you are not at the top of your game today Randy! Great video so far really enjoying it. Happy New Year to you as well my friend! As for the reverse bridge mounting, yeah, when you get to feeling better, let me know what you think about that. I would like to see about a proto-type.

[@thomastommy1192]

Great video. I have a question!. If the maker had used a glue that would not work loose with heat. How would you get the bridge off? Good video thanks for sharing. I hope you feel better soon. Have a happy new year. But most of all have a safe one. I have had a friend get killed last week end. Right in front of my house in a car accident. I been kinda shook up this week. For God's sake everyone be careful this week end.

[@RandySchartiger]

Oh man sorry to hear about your friend! Hang in there! I believe the maker DID use a glue that didn't react to heat but I got it hot enough to get a knife under it, it took forever to get off tho, just have to keep the heat on it and keep trying, it pulled some fibers away because heat wasn't effecting the glue much at all but its all good now. Thanks for tuning in Thomas!

[@blackpearl1969]

I thought easy stuff first. Crack was, bridge didn't want to budge, how stupid am I but you showed patience wins the day. Thanks Randy. oh where did you get that heat sensor.?

[@RandySchartiger]

That bridge was THE hardest one I've ever removed! It took me almost 2 hours off camera. I think I got the heat sensor at a local hardware store but its been so long I can't remember, they are pretty cheap and very handy. Thanks for viewing!

[@tomahoks]

Black Pearl Yeah, hardware stores sell them allright. Not that costly anymore as well.

[@MissKatrin]

Wonderful work I wish you all a wonderful as well as all I always wanted to, and success in life and at work Our like # 66

[@RandySchartiger]

Thanks so much Miss Katrin! I wish you the very best as well!

[@robertkibbler1564]

Another great video, Randy. Recently done a bridge remove and reglue myself. To a cheap guitar I'm practicing on.might even do a neck reset as well? Keep em coming. Have a great new year for 2017.to you all including Earl.hugs to Q. Rob.from across the pond.

[@RandySchartiger]

Thank you Rob! Definitely doing a neck reset on this one too as soon as I talk to the owner. Good luck with yours and happy repairs as well as Happy New Year!

[@PhillRobinson]

Sheesh man you do some scary stuff good job you know what your at . Happy New Year from The Strumalong Guitar School

[@RandySchartiger]

I do get into some messes some times! Fun times but gotta be very careful. Thanks for tuning in and Happy New Year my friend!

[@JennysCountryChannel]

Great video Randy :-) Wishing you, your family, Zeke and Q-Ball a Happy New Year 2017! 🍷🍷🍷🍷 Jenny

[@RandySchartiger]

Many thanks Jenny! Happy New Year to you as well! I hope it is a wonderful one for you in every way! :) Q and Zeke and me sends much love! :)

[@jamieowens3106]

Great video

[@nickbnoble]

Hi Randy- thanks for your informative videos. I took the bridge off my 1978 Takamine EF360S because it needs a new one. The bridge came off rather clean but the knife did get underneath some fibers of the spruce top. They are still intact and laying flat like a thin rigid flap about 1"x 1" where the lower wing was. I plan to affix a new bridge with hide glue. Do you think i should first inject a few drops of Titebond underneath that flap of fibers, then after it's dry hide glue the new bridge? I know you shouldn't apply hide glue to Titebond residue, but I suspect the flap will keep them separated. Or maybe just get some hide glue under that flap first? I want to use hide glue for the bridge despite the heating and set time challenges in case it needs a repair or to be repositioned in the future. Thank you Randy or anyone else with suggestions

[@RandySchartiger]

hello Nick! thanks for checking out my videos! I would glue the fibers back down with hide since that what you are going to use for the bridge. hide glue will bond to hide glue and this would only make the overall bond better. if you were going to glue the bridge with tightbond then I'd recommend tightbond for the loose fibers. thanks again, I hope this helps.

[@nickbnoble]

@@RandySchartiger Thank you Randy, that sounds like a good idea.

[@alamosabill201]

That suction cup, is that your idea or is it a known luthier method? Cheers. 🤠

[@RandySchartiger]

I can't remember ever seeing anyone else do it, it could be a trick others use I really don't know. I was trying to think one day how I could force glue into places it wouldn't run and saw a suction cup near by and the idea (in my head) was born, it works ver nicely. Thanks Simon!

[@HBSuccess]

Hi Randy - you wanted input - I'd do exactly what you're doing save for one thing. You gotta fix the bridge. You gotta fix the top crack. IF the neck to bridge plane is OK at that point I'd stop right there. I've seen the gap between fingerboard and top a dozen.times - it's a build error. The builder probably forced the neck joint and closed the gap initially by clamping the crap out of it. Over time everything returns to its natural state and the gap shows up - or the stress makes something else crack - or both. If you can get decent action without pulling the neck - do that and stop. Save yourself frustration and your client a ton of money. If you CAN'T then reset the neck as you normally would - but plan on a shim under the extension - under no circumstance would I try to force the fingerboard and top to do something it doesn't want to do. Just my .02. Brudda. - Hsve a great new year and feel better !!

[@RandySchartiger]

All good points! I'll know more once I get the bridge glued back on it but pretty sure I'll have to do a neck reset, plus the plane of the fretboard to plane of the bridge is way off so I will have to align all that once I get the bridge back on it. I went ahead and took the neck off last night and spoke to the owner about gluing it back on and losing the screws and nuts and bolts, he agreed on gluing the neck on. Fun fun! Thanks mate and Happy New Year!

[@zerb100]

How do you buff finish. By hand? Wheel? Did I miss a video? Get Well Soon Bro

[@RandySchartiger]

I use a buffer to buff finish but my buffer motor burned out this summer so now I'm just going to buy an entire new buffer when I get enough money ahead. Thanks Tim for viewing!

[@HBSuccess]

PS - verybsmart using the actual bridge as a caul. I aways forget about that option and go scrambling for a caul.

[@ljtuggle5067]

I know these people who screwed my Guitar up just basically glued the bridge directly to the damn lacquer what a pain

[@billpholde4816]

I "liked" this video as soon as I saw this guy rub his arm against his teeth in the beginning.