Range Extenders for Electric Vehicles

While plenty of options for plug-in vehicles now flood the market at seemingly low prices, drivers soon realize most electric options only get them thirty to eighty miles on a single charge. This reality leads most to annoyance and anxiety over the lack of charging stations and the very real money they are spending every time they fill up with gas and electricity.
For more information about Me2EV's Range Extenders: me2ev.com/
Interviewed at the IDTechEx Show! USA 2017 www.idtechex.com/events/

[@NikoxD93]

Lol I love that guy! So down to earth and undisturbed by the absolutely confrontational borderline agressive interview

[@eyesopen444]

is this an argument, when you interview calm down!

[@BTC909]

The rear suspension is crying.

[@coalsoul5845]

I love this guy, he’s a dreamer and a hero. The science doesn’t matter; if he stays committed to his dream, the people with the money will eventually surround him by nit pickers that can dial it in to international auto spec and efficiency. Or The other people with the money will pay him off big to shut up, then destroy his r&d (if they have’t already. Either way, keep the passion pal! It’s guys like you, not the suave CEO’s that dream and do!

[@claudiomatta5605]

In theory not too efficient converting DC from lead battery into AC to be converted back to DC by the car's own inverter that charges the LI battery. Also the extra weight diminishes the original range of the car. Not convinced.

[@frankmayer139]

I want an EV that can go at least 500 miles on 4 AA batteries.

[@chrismarkus7640]

You need to stop interviewing and find another gig!

[@04dram04]

This guy is waked out. $64k for a model S battery pack? Not even close

[@jons6125]

What the hell is the lead with exposed plug prongs at both ends?

[@williemastermindindevelopm679]

How do i get one of these things

[@louieluis8840]

Make sense. This guy is too humble to say that his project really works. This guys is shrewd.

[@dankollars4501]

great idea for older ev's with low range, but probably not worth the hassle with the newer high range ev's they are making today and they will only continue to increase. i think manufactures should build in battery ports so you can add range just by plugging in an additional battery packs. wouldnt that be nice

[@ijcorner]

Never laughed so much - I really have no words

[@aarondavenport3143]

I just want to know how many miles it’s supposed to add to the vehicle wtf

[@Ralphb1969]

I can tell that most people who are leaving negative comments don't own an all electric vehicle. I do, and can tell you that this will reduce range anxiety, and a reasonable option to consider. Nice work.

[@rash9505]

Me too having an electric car, and it's not a Tesla. This lead acid crap will increase the vehicles weight, making it inefficient. Perhaps the range will even drop with all these extra weight. I think you own an EV without knowledge of batterys and energy density. The next problem: With those batterys, you can forget fast charging. A lithium cell can be charged at at least 1C. A modern lead acid or AGM with only 0.1C. Enjoy driving with less range and a 10 times longer stay at the charging station...

[@Mikewalden12345]

Maby if you put it on a trailer it might be better?

[@rash9505]

@@Mikewalden12345 physically not. If the battery is on a trailer or inside the car, it doesn't matter: The weight is the same to pull.

[@Mikewalden12345]

@@rash9505 in all honesty just need an ev with a larger battery. I have a 500e and the range meter isn't allways accurate. I just plan my trips better. Would be nice if there were other options.

[@rash9505]

@@Mikewalden12345 yeah, the 500e is not really efficient, that's the biggest downside of this car. My car's battery is just slightly bigger (27kWh). But I'm capable to travel through Europe with ease. There is always a fast charger in range.

[@JohnWoodell]

Seems like you could charge a separate bank of super capacitors (using 2 charge stations while on a road trip), and let the capacitors bleed into the main battery using the same method as regenerative breaking. The most dangerous part of this video is the custom cable with male plugs on each end. please just use J1772 and an EVSE for all EV charging.

[@barnamajalmachro3]

Don't be negative this king of people who changes our lives you should dream to achieve

[@cbgregoire9]

I had an idea, I’m sure I’m not the only one, where it would be nice to be able to rent additional battery capacity to support a road trip. That way you could buy a less expensive EV that you can use locally but then when you want to go on a road trip say for a vacation you can rent one of these batteries to extend your range. Hopefully it can be made to work with the dc fast chargers.

[@SecondLifeDesigner]

I have thought about having a small two wheeled trailer that would have a battery or batteries that could be plugged into the car as you drove to extend the range of EVs and that would also have some storage room for suitcases. Combining your idea of renting additional batteries and my idea of a small two wheeled trailer would be great for a company like U-Haul. U-Haul be great in that you drive to another city and then just swap one trailer for another and carry on your road trip.

[@keithnewton8981]

I do not know where he is getting his price from for the batteries. The Ford focus Ev has crap battery power, compared to a leaf. So how the Ford cost more is beyond me plus you have the recharge issue of lead acid.There

[@peterkierstv]

the focus was made in small numbers and the leaf is more popular and maybe that's why the cost goes down

[@techontesla5284]

I had a 2013 leaf And now I have a 2013 Ford focus and the Ford focus is way better on the highway I hardly touch the gas pedal and I could do65 no problem if I had to put down a lot harder to get it to move the Ford focus is better hands down

[@davidwright1752]

Just need tow bar. Box trailer and 6KVA diesel generator it will work well in Australia. Charge as you driver

[@ChuiStrong]

Tesla doesn't really make a profit off their cars, so what he is saying is sort of true.

[@ValkerieSilk]

Love it!

[@jammyjackson2743]

Man your confusing me and this guy at the same 'time

[@randellqwertyuiop]

iv got this idea too and every body shot it down. they said that the extra weight offsets the additional advantages. But to add to this idea is i can see that we has level 2 charging using s 240v sinewave converter to charge the car. a better solution is to use DC charging functionality(yup if the car is not dc this wont work.). you need to step up your voltage to 480v using multiple regulators in series and that could fast charge your battery in minutes instead of hours. And this is more efficient than inverter. it is said that sla is 50% more heavier than lithium per watt. but its more dense so it dosent need to much volume.

[@junkmasterer]

I think the "suicide 240 cord" might be a consumer issue.

[@grittsy]

I like this show. I wish the good man well. Does anyone know of an EV that has some form of range extender generator? Is this possible? Viable? Like does the science stack up?

[@steviepii1801]

Instead of making an external plug, I've been thinking of splicing into the wires on the inside and installing a giant sturdy reliable switch to activate the external battery charging process. And the second plug could be hidden better, maybe downward facing just behind the lip of a cowling.

[@josephwalder8868]

If you tap the Ford wires you’ll probably void the warranty. Test products should be ones out of warranty. You have a great idea.

[@edwinrivera8424]

This is a great idea executed in not too great technology. If this gentleman makes his product out of a lightweight, safer and I will fast charging technology integrated into the car he has a great business.

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

This hurts my head.

[@panamamixguy85]

This interviewer is trash

[@karlkelly9005]

I love this

[@healingbyqurannow]

I was actually thinking about that then I thought maybe someone did that let me check and I saw this gentleman good for him. But then I found out my system is superior to that by a country mile.

[@rushiljohar4206]

He created a required led acid emergency backup power bank for Tesla. Which is required. Don't do 600 pound that'll charge battery 100%. Added weight will affect range of car and instability. Go for 150 pound/75kg emergency backup led acid battery 🔋 that'll charge the car 25% in time of rare emergency. You don't need to carry so much extra weight. But a backup is always required. Portable generators add 12 miles/gallon of gas in around 3 hours. That is much better than carrying 150pound battery 🔋. Wind power can possible charge the car enough to add 5 mile/hour but I'm unsure how many miles can be added using this method. Assuming we put 3 fans below headlight in front of car 🚗 and put black grills to cover the fans from front. So fans will be inside the car and all you'll be able to see are the black grills and headlight.

[@sunsidhant4054]

I have been working on both technology n o don't find all what he say in alignment. Lithium ion batteries are 3-4 times the cost of lead acid not 18-20 (at least in India) . Lithium ion are much more lighter n last 1000 plus cycles vs 200-300 of lead acid. Volumes of lead acid is much more than lion batts for same power!

[@candacemac4338]

USE SOLAR INSTEAD OF LEAD-ACID AND AVOID THE CAR WEIGHT PROBLEM, BUT THERE IS A TIME FACTOR.

[@steviepii1801]

Well it can't go straight from the panel to the car battery right? All the builds I've seen have like 3 other components at least. Hope you can understand, my ALLCAPS isn't that great😅

[@johngott8224]

Should probably replace the thumbnail image

[@Monkeyseemonkey79]

This is like watching an interview with two WWF wrestlers. Bizarre.

[@michaelbokrosh7374]

Go for it dude.... Here's to Iowa invention!

[@PrivatePilot66]

Who wants to carry an extra 600 pounds of batteries everywhere they go?

[@AtulSharma-bl4fm]

Why do you keep interrupting him at every point? You never allow him to finish any sentence.

[@ptr66m]

Check out the Lead Acid Battery charging lead going to the mains (10:30). A male wall plug with heavy duty pins (no big deal), and at the other end yes, another male plug with exposed heavy duty pins! So no safety problem there then? Jeeez - and he thinks this is marketable, doh! Then later he tells us he hopes to be able to charge AND drive at the same time? Is this for real, a charging current going into the Li-On battery whilst also going out to the motor simultaneously? And then there are the losses in efficiency to consider, converting from one to the other, with an inverter in-between for good measure. Why not just put a petrol generator in the trunk and be done with it, or if you want to be environmentally friendly stick a wind turbine on the top of the car - then drive around, and let it charge the batteries as you go! That was a joke btw, before you all reply....

[@Mikewalden12345]

Petrol generator wont work tried it. Charger falted out incorrect wire or grounding issue.

[@dogan6070]

Sounds good to me.

[@CrissCrux]

Lead acid is a lot heavier and bolky

[@Ralphb1969]

Awesome product.

[@electricknight5392]

Ok hold on a sec. Take out those lead acid batteries put some lithium ion batteries like Battle Born. They will last longer then those heavy lead acid batteries. Lead acid batteries even marine batteries are only good for out putting a surge current not long current. For those amount of lead acid batteries you have and swap them out for Battle Born one you can get like 5 time more output power than what you currently have. And since you have already cut into the bumper try integrating the charging cable for the EV battery so it's not hanging out the car. Other than that not bad. Lead acid batteries 60 pounds Battle Born 30 pounds Cut weight saving in half literally, just a bit more expensive. Or just but Tesla modules and add them to the EV battery / plug in battery

[@hymlog]

...CARRY EXTRA BATTERIES. ...AMAZING ! ....WHO WOULD HAVE EVER THOUGHT?

[@user-xt2jx1fr1z]

ez egy ongyilkos kabel !?

[@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs]

600lb is 272kg, too heavy!

[@aggabus]

He the. Best

[@izzzzzz6]

At first i thought this guy was crazy but the more i think about it the combination of true storage batteries that like to output small amounts of power for long periods. On the other hand, they have now started to recycle lithium based batteries. But if you were going to do it then it would be much better to deliver the power directly to the speed controller, bypassing many inefficiencies in the inverting and the charging systems, not to mention the inefficiency of power flowing in and then out of the lithium batteries. I was thinking briefcase generator or micro gas turbine generator if you could afford one.

[@tradershak8965]

Hell what are they teaching in IOWA?a

[@don.timeless4993]

i hope all companies stops hybrid & making instead PHEV version made with range extender generator, like INNengine amazing tech. it's way better than hybrid & suitable for countries that don't have powerful & ready infrastructure for fast charging! also it's very good for SUVs for off roading!

[@thehound5794]

I may be mistaken but I think if he went 100% lead acid and combined them with ultra capacitors he would get the the same acceleration as with Lithium Ion. He is also right about lead acid being greener. ultrabattery.com

[@hcivokiz]

Vision from god to put a 2x4 in the trunk and add 600 lbs to the weight, wow!

[@jollygreen4662]

Damn I rather use a Honda gas generator . Its lighter

[@fanplant]

I had things to say until I saw the double male charging cord at kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYGyi5alec2HbZo plug it in and hold the other end buddy

[@johnpapa8681]

It's not "times cheaper". I hear this on tv all the time and it makes no sense. 10 is not 10 times less than 100. 10 is one tenth of 100.

[@jons6125]

Oh god the company name is “me2” think that names been taken now.

[@hlotto]

U (Volts) = R x I I (Amp) = U ÷ R R (Ohm) = U ÷ I P (Watt) = U x I I hope that can help

[@billmontroy4962]

Use lithium batteries and save weight. I found a 6000 watt inverter I am getting and will connect 2 used 12 volt lithium batteries with 2 new level 2 charger I have.

[@greg778123]

Gong

[@mattdicus2839]

This is just a prototype

[@fredferl]

Great interview. Held my attention. Both knew their stuff, it seemed. Wonder what the inventor is up to now? Interesting.

[@lhxperimental]

Charging, Discharging, DC to AC and AC to DC are all lossy processes. He is doing all four. He can totally eliminate them by taking the DC from the add-on battery and ORing it with DC from main battery. You would definitely void the warranty doing this but the current technique is too wasteful. Even after all that, I think the sheer weight of those batteries will eat into the the range. So net gain will be small. Full marks for enthusiasm though.

[@gscrivens3827]

"Charging, Discharging, DC to AC and AC to DC are all lossy processes. He is doing all four. He can totally eliminate them by taking the DC from the add-on battery and ORing it with DC from main battery. You would definitely void the warranty doing this but the current technique is too wasteful. Even after all that, I think the sheer weight of those batteries will eat into the the range. So net gain will be small. Full marks for enthusiasm though." YUP! 95% of user trips fall within the average ev's battery range. This means that, in order to reduce our range anxiety for 5% of trips, he wants us to drag around an additional 600 lbs thus reducing the range for 95% of trips. At 600 lbs it is not something we would take in an out of the car according the trip distance. Sounds like a poor trade. Also, DC-to-AC and AC-to-DC conversion each have ~92% average efficiency - 0.92 x 0.92 = 0.85 i.e a 15% loss before the power reaches the car. Further, to use the extender, we have to stop and plug it in. No thanks.

[@dbc105]

2 minutes, I've had enough

[@Sexygus]

So hard to understand his explanation... He is very confusing....

[@DuncanCunningham]

only because the interviewer is constantly interrupting him.

[@PatrickCSullivan]

Did that guy really have a suicide cord to charge the car?

[@04dram04]

You can see the cars suspension completely colpased under the weight. This is a really bad and outdated solution

[@dueymiller5795]

hey man; my idea was to take my 240 volt diesel generator and put it in the back of my car.

[@carrifizzano]

No shit if you put a a bunch of batteries in the trunk it will make the range better lol

[@frankjansen1832]

Exhausting.

[@AndrewSheldon]

Can we have a fact check here!!!

[@harrycrawford3818]

Snake oil

[@dogan6070]

Harry Crawford how u know

[@poker4400]

Tesla batteries cost $64,000.00. Hahahhahaha

[@hasnomoney1800]

this guy know his stuff

[@04dram04]

no

[@SecondLifeDesigner]

I am not quite sure I believe what this guy is saying plus all that additional weight is going to cut down the range of the car. If what he saying is true that pound per pound lead acid batteries hold as much energy and lithium ion batteries at nearly 1/20 the cost of lithium ion batteries and take up less space as lithium ion is you just add a few large capacitors to an all lead acid battery system and use the capacitors for short bursts during acceleration to match the performance of an all lithium ion system. Plus the capacitors are much better at regenerative breaking in that they can be charged quicker than lithium ion batteries can be so you get more energy out of regenerative breaking using capacitors. That being said I don't think this guy has his facts straight. Just did some quick research pound per pound lithium ion batteries hold at worst over twice as much energy and at best over seven times the energy of lead acid batteries. His system of lead acid batteries if they weigh the same as the car's lithium battery could only charge it up to maybe half and that is if the car had a really crappy lithium ion battery. If it had a good lithium ion battery his system would be able to charge it up one seventh. The amount of range you would lose would not be worth carrying all that extra weight around in lead acid batteries.

[@engineerjay420]

Lead acid sucks.

[@rgolab3174]

Ok, I'm shorting Tesla stock now 😁😁😁

[@aarondavenport3143]

I wish you would stop talking long enough to let him explain what the thing does how much it costs and how it works without being interrupted. It’s a 20 minute video with 5 minutes of info worth watching.

[@FD-ms2nm]

Yea I’ll stick to my gasoline

[@TheNobodyZone]

He knows ots a scam. He just want to get that seed money in his hand.

[@loctite222ms]

Thought I was going to see a some sort of ICE range extender. This is a step backwards. You end up with and even heavier car with less cargo space. 18 minute waste of my time.

[@someotherdude]

Interviewer shouts and interrupts.... skip it.

[@mattdicus2839]

A vision sent from GOD...Amen.

[@theredscourge]

Plot Twist: It was a vision from Old Testament God

[@user-lq8qq1fr4c]

HA HA

[@tony5192]

Interviewer interrupts the guy all the time with questions that are not pertinent

[@kedduff1814]

1:29 vehicle rated for 1200 pounds..... so we put 1200lbs of battery.

[@135iN55]

Great idea, Lithium Ion is utterly atrocious filthy technology. Just ditch the fire hazard and use lead acid. Tesla batteries run as high as $140,000 for the old, unsupported 2008-2012 Roadsters. A Model S 100D runs about $80,000 for a new Li-On battery and they die about every 3-5 years.

[@tonycavez]

ev batteries are made from cells, the entire battery doesn't die , for a person that knows how to repair it he opens it up and replaces the cells that are bad , back on the road

[@135iN55]

@@tonycavez Dead cells cause large banks of cells to be permanently shut off. Large multi-cell batteries have banks of cells in series and in parrallel. Since Li-On cells are only 3.7V nominal, there is a huge series requirement to create the triple digit voltage required to drive the motor. Any dead in-series cells rapidly accelerate the death of the battery since all the other cells in series must try to push their voltage through the dead cell, attempting to charge it as it discharges them, and the final voltage is reduced by the number of dead cells, likely falling outside the minimum voltage requirement for the battery or bank. The controller will permantly shut of all the good and bad cells in that circuit, resulting in massive capacity loss best case, and a completely dead battery worst cast. Ever time it happens, chances of killing the whole battery dramatically increase. Parrallel banks or parts of them are easier to shut off in isolation, and doing so usually only results in permanent capacity loss. Worst case, and not uncommon is thermal runaway killing all occupants instantly, and exploding and rexplodind for days. Firefighter are trained not to intervene or help, as it is too lethal.

[@tonycavez]

when he mentioned "a vision from god" I moved on

[@franciscoburgos787]

Oil is bad for the environment and humanity. Oil is bad

[@davem5333]

Sooner or later he is going to have to plug it and recharge all those batteries . See what that costs and how long it takes. This guy has very superficial knowledge without deep critical thinking.

[@RobertLBarnard]

Really surprised more people here didn't cry "BS". This is a scam, only to be carried out on the ignorant. You can't get free energy, from anywhere. Lead-acid batteries are not sustainable....lead is highly toxic to literally anything with a brain. I will not subscribe to this channel.

[@Ecrowder51]

This was the worse interview I have ever heard. blah blah blah-BATTERY! blah blah blah - WEIGHT! blah blah blah - Me2!

[@KJPage]

There is so much wrong with this idea it's just not even funny. 😞

[@johnnyzee383]

$22000...LMAO...ahh...WRONG...Sorry, although applaud you going electric your knowledge is skewed.

[@davidweber8725]

The interviewer asks too many stupid questions

[@josefalhisa6471]

what a bad interviewer so aggressive.