Range Rover vs Lexus AWD Torture Test: One Is The Clear Winner!

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@TFLcar
@TFLcar Жыл бұрын
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@ktpinnacle
@ktpinnacle Жыл бұрын
Just imagine how well JLR would do if they formed a company-wide plan to address reliability and quality the way they engineer their off road systems?
@YoussefCherkaoui-xv8ev
@YoussefCherkaoui-xv8ev Жыл бұрын
that will be insane, imaging the sells they would have, and what could possibly happen to the competitors
@quinty26
@quinty26 Жыл бұрын
It's a chick vehicle. Flash and dash.
@ktpinnacle
@ktpinnacle Жыл бұрын
@@quinty26 sadly, that’s who you see driving them. Even more so the Evoque and Velar. What a waste of capability.
@shaunbava1801
@shaunbava1801 Жыл бұрын
the dealers would be pissed.....that's their profit center!
@Phantom-ys5ur
@Phantom-ys5ur Жыл бұрын
that would never happen in our lifetime. unreliability, that is how JLR really earn money.
@albertreyes1386
@albertreyes1386 Жыл бұрын
The 4WD/AWD system in LR has never been a question of how well it works. The quality of LR itself is the dilemma
@marvpritchett
@marvpritchett Жыл бұрын
I own the 2023 GX, and paid $68K out the door...the Range Rover is $100K. Not exactly apples to apples...I also have a 2012 Land Rover LR4 for playing around. I'm still under $100K for both.
@osp4
@osp4 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 LR4 v8 and it’s been absolutely reliable. i love it. just place an order for 2023 RR v8 LWB and for sure am getting it under warranty, especially since it has a BMW v8 now 😂
@sly9263
@sly9263 11 ай бұрын
@@osp4 seen too many bad reviews on electronic failures and resulting total vehicle stoppage with the new landrovers- they look good, but not worth the money
@jbird1173
@jbird1173 11 ай бұрын
Our 22 gx premium with captains chairs was 62k did you buy the lux or the offroad package?
@sly9263
@sly9263 11 ай бұрын
@@jbird1173 same got the '22 GX blackline for 61 or 62k
@DanielDaniel1
@DanielDaniel1 Жыл бұрын
The issue has never been how capable Range Rovers are. Nobody would dispute that. It always has been, and always will be the horrid reliability
@jodensmith5093
@jodensmith5093 Жыл бұрын
Very good awd. But let’s be honest, if you fail at the base function of a vehicle (running, turning on, or getting you where you need to go), then having an amazing awd system doesn’t really matter very much
@DuckSherminator
@DuckSherminator Жыл бұрын
My exact thoughts. I'd still go for the Lexus, all day every day. If you wanna go to the bush, get a Land Rover, if you wanna come back, get a Toyota.
@Tommaso77777
@Tommaso77777 Жыл бұрын
@@DuckSherminator all day long!!!
@vincentcorreia5714
@vincentcorreia5714 11 ай бұрын
Hey Tommy. Big wheels have Big Brakes. The Disco 3 suffered with high brake wear as a result of the smaller brake disc. As for the perceived poor reliability - Get a GAP IID tool and see that 95% of the "failures" are no different to error codes on other cars. My 2006 Disco 3 has 394k km and still going strong
@satalac
@satalac Жыл бұрын
I've always been impressed with how well these perform offroad with regular tires. They really do have great traction systems. That being said, I bought a Lexus GX460 because I want my offroad to not mean "at the dealer in the shop, not on the road". Still impressive none the less.
@omardevonlittle3817
@omardevonlittle3817 Жыл бұрын
😂 brilliant man. Enjoy the GX, it'll run forever
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Жыл бұрын
All Toyota SUVS myst pass rigid off-road trials on regular street tires in all conditions. Well documented.
@Karlkn
@Karlkn Жыл бұрын
Remember the Land Rover TFL purchased a couple of years back? Did not go well😊.
@barrydraper
@barrydraper Жыл бұрын
Both are capable, but if I'm 'buying', the Lexus GX is the hands-down choice. It will outlast more than 5 Range Rovers and hold its residual value much longer.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 Жыл бұрын
Land rover buyers don't consider the engineering that goes into their four-wheel-drive systems; because they don't care, they are not needed on runs to the mall and the school
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
They're also busy taking it in for repairs.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 Жыл бұрын
@@electrikoptik yes. How can you impress your friends by explaining the virtues of its four-wheel-drive system as you wave at your LanRover when you drive by it stuck in the Service parking lot
@stlswagger
@stlswagger Жыл бұрын
May not fit the mold but I overland and ORV park beat my 2012 LR4 v8 very often. BajaRack, 23Zero tent, 23Zero 270 awning, frontrunner drawer system. Finishing up the trimming on the inside of my bumper to finish off my hidden winch install. Absolutely a beast off road and I only have CDL. Sliders coming soon. 127k miles. 33 inch tires on a 2.5 inch lift
@davidmscott4409
@davidmscott4409 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@romos14
@romos14 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@stlswaggerCongrats. I have an 06 L322 w/2in lift running Falken Willdpeaks, sliders, and grill guard. Been to Hungry Valley OHV, Océano Dunes, San Gabriel OHV, and Stoddard Valley. 200k mi on my rig, running strong, and never have been abandoned or stranded.
@georgematosian484
@georgematosian484 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a great video. I tried to change a “sows ear to a silk purse” by putting 18” wheels and Falken Wildpeak tires on my 2008 Land Rover LR2 but the lack of underbody protection made “coming back” uncertain. Every off road adventure required some sort of undercarriage repair, the aftermarket for LR2 off road parts is essentially zero, and custom made skid plates etc were simply too costly. This totally confirming your statements. Perhaps your friends at the Denver Land Rover dealership are offering modifications for the Defender, but in the end I traded mine in on a Wrangler Rubicon and I’m quite pleased. However the Defender drives beautifully to your off road trail, and if I could custom order one with the wheels and protections available on other serious off road vehicles I likely would. Come on Land Rover, make at least one model that isn’t a mall crawling status symbol !
@arkhsm
@arkhsm Жыл бұрын
And call it the Defender Extreme !!
@Mozuf
@Mozuf Жыл бұрын
Didn’t TFL have tons of issues with their Land Rover Defender? It wasn’t many years ago lol.
@ConsoleCombat
@ConsoleCombat Жыл бұрын
Yes. I find this video disingenuous for that reason. I understand that they need to maintain a relationship with the manufacturer for review access so I don’t know how’s they’d be able to keep that and mention bad issues they recently had with Land Rover.
@omardevonlittle3817
@omardevonlittle3817 Жыл бұрын
Ben Hardy too. Terrible cars
@tuckerhiggins4336
@tuckerhiggins4336 Жыл бұрын
TFL is hardly what you would call good reviewers. Nothing like Savage Geese, or GN from the tech world
@zardozal8239
@zardozal8239 Жыл бұрын
Your missing the point. All he was doing was saying how good it was offroad.
@omardevonlittle3817
@omardevonlittle3817 Жыл бұрын
​@@tuckerhiggins4336 hard disagree there. They're allowed to like Rovers, most wealthy ppl do. They live in Colorado. Can't beat the comfort/style/capability and if it breaks down you get a new loaner. Not for people that rely it on everyday. That's the GX.
@groosbro1
@groosbro1 Жыл бұрын
On Australia they say "If you want to go out into the bush drive a Range Rover. If you want to come back bring a Toyota."
@aidanwilson6035
@aidanwilson6035 Жыл бұрын
Well done for such an original comment !
@rono33
@rono33 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Tommy love this comparison. Too bad if only Land Rover engineers spent as much time trying to make the vehicles actually DEPENDABLE. What good is such AWD engineering when you can’t TRUST the vehicle to overland far off road - far from a dealer. Didn’t you yourselves go thru THREE brand new defenders in as many weeks???? Can’t TRUST them. I love all your TFL Slip tests too. ALWAYS great tests. 👍 👍
@EvanMelen
@EvanMelen Жыл бұрын
I was coming here to bring up the Defender debacle!!! 😂
@aidanwilson6035
@aidanwilson6035 Жыл бұрын
You imply that they are on their 4th vehicle ???? , only 1 Defender had a 'check engine warning light' ecu issue , the other problems had nothing to do with Land Rover reliability !.
@rono33
@rono33 Жыл бұрын
@@aidanwilson6035 then why did they have to go through entire vehicle replacements? Land Rover wouldn’t do that if they could’ve just fixed a simple issue. I recall they had to replace the entire vehicle every time. Um…what does that tell you? Great car? On at least one occasion I believe it was a major problem, on other occasion even if it was less severe, they weren’t able to “fix“ it aka entire vehicle replacements…in any case look no further than consumer reports reliability data, They are always between below average and horrible in historical reliability data, old models, and new models. Apart from TFL’s own experience on their brand new defender which was unacceptable, the historical data doesn’t lie.
@aidanwilson6035
@aidanwilson6035 Жыл бұрын
@@rono33 As far as i can recall , i think their 2nd vehicle was damaged by a local dealer fitting a winch and TFL wanted another replacement due to limited spec availability at the time because of the pandemic which caused extended delays for every vehicle maker including waiting months for parts on a brand new vehicle ( most manufacturers have initial problems with new models ). Of course Land Rover need to improve reliability , the newest models have yet to be proven long term but at the same time most of these reliability surveys count a glitchy screen as if its the same as being stranded with engine failure.
@rono33
@rono33 Жыл бұрын
@@aidanwilson6035 I hear you. You may be right. But again, with so many systems on todays vehicles being user controlled via the screens, even “glitchy screens” matter too. Anyway the overall reliability data isn’t relegated to just minor glitches. Hey I’m in your party as far as I can tell, I luv these vehicles, I just wish they were better, then I’d buy one and keep it many years.
@plutonium9
@plutonium9 Жыл бұрын
In warranty (and assuming good dealer support/availability) I think I'd take the Rover for the more refined ride/interior/inline 6, but out of warranty....no way in hell.
@Baebon6259
@Baebon6259 Жыл бұрын
that is why their resale value dropped so much when it out of warranty. The owner either become a mechanic or sell it at a deep loss.
@joehesketh9370
@joehesketh9370 Жыл бұрын
I'd take the Lexus every time. It still performed well and won't break down or suffer constant faults.
@davidthomas9267
@davidthomas9267 Жыл бұрын
I'll go back a few years ago to your Defender test - couldn't repair engine with 150 miles driven ??
@colewo92
@colewo92 Жыл бұрын
Go to the most off-grid countries in the world and it will be hard to find a Land Rover. In those countries you will find mostly Toyota, and some Nissan
@danielmbugua2789
@danielmbugua2789 11 ай бұрын
Yeah come to Kenya, Landcruiser is king
@_danahmed
@_danahmed Жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here in my Lexus, while my Range Rover is at the mechanic's. Oh ya, the Rover's AWD is awesome... when it works.
@cunawarit
@cunawarit Жыл бұрын
I think almost everyone knows that the technological magic that Land Rover does with their 4x4s is incredible, they are amazing at maintaining traction and like I said, they seem almost magical. This doesn't invalidate the reliability comments though. There's more to a vehicle than performance in one system, it is an overall package and Land Rover does well when it comes to comfort and traction but not so well in other aspects.
@omardevonlittle3817
@omardevonlittle3817 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@2theprelude
@2theprelude Жыл бұрын
In the Rover, curious what the "low traction launch" does electronically and if mechanically. The thing that comes to comes to mind in the GX that I can see doing the same that wasn't mentioned is the 2nd Start, its for low traction surface as well.
@syl764
@syl764 Жыл бұрын
Low traction launch is good when all 4 wheels don't have [much] grip. Setting off from the lights on a snowy hill. Love mine.
@osp4
@osp4 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 LR4 v8 and it’s been absolutely reliable. i love it. just place an order for 2023 RR v8 LWB and for sure am getting it under warranty, especially since it has a BMW v8 now 😂
@remembermorrison
@remembermorrison Жыл бұрын
Too bad the reliability is garbage. The GX 460 is one of the most reliable vehicles money can buy.
@vincecaruso7503
@vincecaruso7503 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t even consider the unreliable Range Rover vs. the GX. The GX is THE MOST reliable vehicle made in the world- PERIOD. You have the option to drive GX for decades and hundreds of thousands of miles. Then trade it in for half of what you paid for it. Good luck getting the Range Rover to 100k miles.
@BryanKreitz
@BryanKreitz 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Tommy for producing another great video! I am so longing for you to do a comparison video on the Jeep Grand Cherokee‘s Quadra Drive II system, comparing and sharing your thoughts of how it performs against the GX and the Range Rover. Let’s do this!!!
@wildbill6366
@wildbill6366 Жыл бұрын
The Range Rover is nice until they break or until out of warranty then they're very expensive.. They are amazing capable of road but lease and return.. The GX is old school Prado and a gaping hog as to looks and weight but yes will last for many years trouble free and it is old school tech and proven..
@btl4220
@btl4220 Жыл бұрын
I’d take a Lexus over a RR all day any day
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Жыл бұрын
The GX460/Landcruiser Prado has never let us down off road... and we thrash it good. The Lexus/Landcruiser Prado is the world's #1 offroader... they are all over the entire world. The reliability is the elephant 🐘 in this room. Toyota is always the answer ❤
@slmunney7760
@slmunney7760 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see that a Range Rover performs well "in a controlled environment." That must be what it was designed for because mine is useless and scary in any snow, ice or other inclimate weather. I once got stuck in my own driveway in a couple of inches of snow. Like the car, but don't buy one because you think they are capable in any practical, real world, difficult situation.
@MercOne
@MercOne Жыл бұрын
Tires?
@mcandrett
@mcandrett Жыл бұрын
User error
@shaunbava1801
@shaunbava1801 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what you are doing wrong, I've got an LR3 with oversized Pirelli scorpion ATR tires and my drive way is a consistent 25 degree grade and I've gone up it 8 inches of snow. I used to have a RR L405 even with the 22's and stock tires a few inches of snow wouldn't stop it. You have summer tires on you car.
@alexshapley8331
@alexshapley8331 Жыл бұрын
Interesting - thanks!
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 Жыл бұрын
The biggest difference between the two is the longevity, one 3-5 yrs versus the other 30-50yrs.
@YoussefCherkaoui-xv8ev
@YoussefCherkaoui-xv8ev Жыл бұрын
when you are rich you dont care about that, also range rovers if maintained very good you will not have any problem maybe will llast 10-20 years
@mikeythanos
@mikeythanos Жыл бұрын
Its funny you think newer Toyotas can last 30-50 years.
@pennmikael
@pennmikael Жыл бұрын
I have a gx and not sure if I’ll actually want to drive it after 30 years
@doxydoxdelamanca9902
@doxydoxdelamanca9902 Жыл бұрын
3 to 5; you're generous. Well. I guess; but lots of trips to the dealer.
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 Жыл бұрын
Our LR3 is easily outlasting our GX460…cheaper to maintain too…
@misadventuresoferic
@misadventuresoferic Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to compare the LR to a GX with MTS. Rock mode will engage in less than a 1/4 turn of a wheel.
@landl190372
@landl190372 Жыл бұрын
It's all great until the warning light comes on and you're stuck in limp mode all the way to the dealer. I had three, all unreliable and usually when you needed them most. Never again. Also, the other thing they don't tell you, if you do use them off road, expect a repair bill every time.
@skyhawk5469
@skyhawk5469 Жыл бұрын
Back in summer of 21 i was shopping for a true 4x4 and even though i had family making me choose between a Range Rover and a G class Mercedes i didn't pick neither and went ahead and bought a brand new 21 Land Cruiser...
@loukasantoniou8054
@loukasantoniou8054 Жыл бұрын
i really like land rover and range rover products, however i think that low range should be standart and so should the rear locking diff. Give my oprional skid plates too. I also think they should make a proper hard core offroader again. The defender x and x8 are cool, AND VERY CAPABLE, but give me a defender with ranger raptor like suspension, thick skid plates locking front and rear diff and 18icnh whells with some beefy at tyres, even if it still has independend all around suspension.
@arkhsm
@arkhsm Жыл бұрын
Yeah, call it the Defender Extreme !!
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er Жыл бұрын
I've got a 17 GX460 premium. Driven in snow and ice a good amount. The 4WD system tolerates *enough* wheel spin that you don't absolutely COOK your brakes. The Landrover is VERY hard on its brakes with that little spin-tolerance per wheel. Looks good on rollers; not nearly as good in the real world.
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er Жыл бұрын
I'll add that despite being driven over the continental divide a few times, once in diving snow (while towing a 4500lb trailer) I just replaced the rear brake pads at 121k miles. Had just started on the squeal tabs. Rotors got resurfaced. Front pads and rotors got replaced at 101k. Zero chance a LR replicating that with the same amount of light trail work and fairly extensive snow use.
@buckdashe2571
@buckdashe2571 Жыл бұрын
As a former high-end car mechanic, I can tell you our shop was visited far more often by RR and LR than any GX460. But (of course it’s subjective) I think that nose on the Lexus is butt-ugly.
@shaunbava1801
@shaunbava1801 Жыл бұрын
@@DBravo29er Land Rover brakes barely make it 30k miles city driving. 100k miles would be unheard of even with the best brakes and rotors, what Rover puts on at the factory is junk. The Lexus is the far more practical vehicle but in reality it does not compete with the Rover which is much more luxurious. I went and almost pulled the trigger on a GX460 after returning my Range Rover, the GX460 is a wonderful vehicle don't get me wrong but it isn't as luxurious/sleek/fancy/etc as a mid 2000's L322 let alone the current generation of Land Rovers. The Land Rover 4x4 system is insane you can drive it through a snow storm in hell without the locking diff, the Toyota systems is very good but not quite as good. Annual maintenance on a Land Rover product is like 2-3K per year! Pretty much on a 3 year lease you can expect to do at least 3 services and brakes it will be 5k without breaking a sweat. Oh and forget about those 22's, the new tires will be another 2k.
@Salsgarageadventures
@Salsgarageadventures Жыл бұрын
Idk where you heard that, but that's a straight up lie.
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er Жыл бұрын
@@shaunbava1801 my GX has made it through several actual blizzards at both Mount Baker and Mount Rainier. Driving snow, etc etc. It's also crossed the continental divide under similar conditions. With zero mods and mere Michelin LTX-2's. Incomparable snow and ice performance for not running a snow tire. I regularly passed Disco's & Range Rovers on I-90 at the Snoqualmie Pass in near-blizzard conditions. I wouldn't say that it outclassed the Land Rovers, but it was consistently better. Up there with my Subaru Outback with the VTD awd system and rear LSD (VTD = Torsen center differential).
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc Жыл бұрын
My JLR SUV just blew up 3 days ago at 67k miles for the second time..... I'm with the Australians when they say that "if you want to go into the bush, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back, take a Toyota." P.S. I used to have a Montero Limited and it was equally impressive, but actually reliable.
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni Жыл бұрын
Land Rover/Range Rover has great 4WD/AWD systems, but what's the use of all that tech if the car it's put in breaks down almost all the time? That's why Toyota/Lexus has always been the go-to for offroad vehicles. Good offroad tech with excellent reliability.
@bobrose7900
@bobrose7900 Жыл бұрын
19"+mud terrains as a spare set of wheels for mud plugging - why not? The full optioned offroad spec has centre and rear diff. locks - awesome!
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 Жыл бұрын
LR/RR/Jaguar(Tata motors) is right at the bottom of Consumer Reports annual least reliable vehicles. The GX is right near the top...
@stefanstoilov9773
@stefanstoilov9773 Жыл бұрын
Terrain response has always been a very good system. That being said ... "LR / RR" and ""reliability" really don't go together in one sentence. So is "LR / RR" and "high resale value".
@Jonsellscoolstuff
@Jonsellscoolstuff Жыл бұрын
Do the snow tire’s perform that well on the Lexus?
@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461
@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461 Жыл бұрын
Land Rovers have awesome 4WD systems but my personal experience was that I couldn't chase my own FJ with the unexperienced LR Disco4 owner behind the wheel after we swapped vehicles on a rugged mountain trail. The Disco just can't take that beating of the trail bumps, which the Toyota absorbed way easily. The air suspension doesn't allow you to lift to the maximum and drive faster and you still have the lower control arms scraping the ground. Finally, the Disco passed everywhere where the FJ went, but waayyy too slowly and carefully. The LR's V8 sounds and pulls good though!
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 Жыл бұрын
Lexus - a vehicle you can drive hard for hundreds of thousands of miles, and then your grandchildren inherit it. Land Rover - a vehicle you drive easily for several hundred miles, and then your grandchildren are still going to be paying the euro specialist mechanic's grandkids for the tab you ran up. All kidding aside, the biggest flaw I can see of the GX for offroading are not the long overhangs messing up approach and departure vs a "true" Prado, but the sub-par efficiency-to-perfomance ratio of the engine. I could imagine quite a few adventurous types have simply run out of fuel before they got where they were going. The Prado's 2.8 turbodiesel gets something like mid 20s mpg, right?
@Jay-bw3fl
@Jay-bw3fl Жыл бұрын
18s and a skid plate is not what anyone actually buying a Range Rover wants, Tommy lol. They know their market
@davidheckart639
@davidheckart639 Жыл бұрын
“Lexus … sounds like sneakers in a dryer” 😂
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er Жыл бұрын
Currently own a GX460. I would not describe the sound of the ATRAC system in that way.
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
The sneakers you'll need to use a lot when you own a RR....😆
@runnerxa
@runnerxa 9 ай бұрын
He is probably referring to the sound of Crawl Control (especially setting 1 to 3), not ATRAC.
@BPJac
@BPJac Жыл бұрын
Even with all those offroad tech things, serious offroad people are just not the target market for these Range Rovers. It is there to brag to your friends about at the gold club.
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
"If you want to go into the jungle take a Range Rover; if you want to come back take the Lexus"...
@eflby
@eflby Жыл бұрын
I heard a safari guide said “if you want to go on a safari, take a Land Rover. If you want to get back, take a Land Cruiser.”
@aidanwilson6035
@aidanwilson6035 Жыл бұрын
Well done for such an original comment !
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 11 ай бұрын
I’ve just taken delivery of a new generation Ranger in the UK and it is on 20” wheels. It was a dealer stock order and all their unsold stock orders for months ahead were ordered with the 20” wheels, because “kids love them” according to the sales manager who configured the orders. But what does he know, because he omitted to order them with the wireless charging, inverter and auxiliary switched with USB by the interior mirror, which cost peanuts extra. Also omitted the surround cameras. It does have excellent adaptive cruise control with steering assist, rear diff lock and full time 4wd [4A] drive mode though. I may well buy some take-off spare 18” wheels and tires for Winter use and change the standard tires for something more off-roadish.
@AJ-rg3pr
@AJ-rg3pr Жыл бұрын
I would still take the Lexus off road any day way more after market support and I like the body on frame with a solid rear axel, plus it won’t leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere
@byronlarson5534
@byronlarson5534 Жыл бұрын
I think I would get the Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland.with the off road package over these two. Compared to the Range Rover you would get better off road tires, skid plates, low range. Compared to the Lexus you would get air suspension for better ground clearance, 8 speed ZF transmission (instead of 6 speed) and better fuel economy. The JGC in this trim is pretty luxurious.
@dudeski934
@dudeski934 Жыл бұрын
That Land Rover will be melted down twice into new vehicles through the years while that Lexus is still on this earth cruising 75+ mph’s down the highway
@jdesmo1
@jdesmo1 Жыл бұрын
Lol- for the amount money you will spend trying to keep the RR on the road for a 100,000 miles, you will get a million miles out of the GX.
@mitchstein288
@mitchstein288 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your sentiment that LR goes through all that work of engineering the 4WD system, only to hamstring it with low hanging plastics and huge wheels. Give us legit off-road bumpers and wheels! However, LR needs to also go where the money is. They need to know their customer base. The majority of LR customers want the big wheels and ground effects, and I would say that the vast majority will never make it off road. Even though the Lexus 4WD system appeared to be bested by the LR system, I'd still take the Lexus. Almost half the price, plus much, much better reliability (not to mention resale value). I know Ford used to have a stake in LR, but do they still have any tie ins? Notice the off-road mode icons on the RR appear to be shared with Ford. Plus, I think the two organizations have some similar styling cues. Just my observation. I would also like to see these two vehicles put to the test at an off-road park such as Ironclads (provided the low hanging plastics don't get in the way). Tumbleweed (OnX Off-road course) is great but it's so muddy that I don't know if those road oriented tires would stand a chance in the mud (well maybe the winter tires on the RR would do well).
@davidpackphoto
@davidpackphoto Жыл бұрын
I feel like the old TFL Touareg did just was well at 5K. I feel like TFL needs to do a doug score for off road performance.
@mrjj1f
@mrjj1f Жыл бұрын
RELIABILITY... Have you seen what it takes to keep a 10 year old Range Rover running?
@rkiels
@rkiels Жыл бұрын
Now, how about a similar test comparing Quadra-Trac II vs. Quadra-Drive II in the new Grand Cherokee? I'm sure there are plenty out there that'd love to see the merits of one over the other.
@christopherhlava6158
@christopherhlava6158 Жыл бұрын
Especially as Jeep has been deleting the e-LSD the past 2 years, an essential component of Quadradrive 2.
@SavageBunny1
@SavageBunny1 Жыл бұрын
My 05 range rover does the same, it'll hold the brake on the wheel thats slipping, but my abs module went out, so now its all open diffs, and the center differential has a Torsen center differential, but it will never lock for aome reason, in the rain, mud, loose dirt its basically just becomes front wheel drive 🤣 I just bought an ABS unit from the junk yard so im going to install it soon.
@funes90
@funes90 9 ай бұрын
it's crazy to see that the most viewed part of the video is right when the Lexus GX shows up, in a video about the Range Rover, people's interest is in the GX/Prado. Speaks for itselfs!
@chopperpl
@chopperpl Жыл бұрын
There is a reason why they don't make them overlanding friendly. If you put it in the such drivetrain stressed environment, they would simply breake down and require expensive recovery. Ever wonder why overlanders pick older Disco's over newer models? This is your answer.
@shumann1605
@shumann1605 Жыл бұрын
Any reason you have not removed the winter tires?
@RysterARCEE
@RysterARCEE Жыл бұрын
It was stated in the video that it was loaned to them that way. Journalists aren't permitted to modify press cars. They simply test as provided.
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 Жыл бұрын
If you think that's good, you need to try and all-wheel drive Chevy Astro or Express with the G80 rear Locker
@warbuzzard7167
@warbuzzard7167 Жыл бұрын
What?
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618
@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 Жыл бұрын
@@warbuzzard7167 I have both, Google and KZbin videos on these offroad beast
@mlow42
@mlow42 Жыл бұрын
They need to leased or traded to make sure their warranty is available at all times.
@johnpan78
@johnpan78 11 ай бұрын
The issue is with Range Rover, you won't get to the location to drive off road. You need a Lexus to take your Range Rover to the location.
@lifexplorer4x4
@lifexplorer4x4 Жыл бұрын
Hola. Se podría hacer la comparativa con el nuevo Lexus GX. Pero igualmente buen vídeo. Saludos de España.
@lunamaria1048
@lunamaria1048 Жыл бұрын
The Lexus GX and Range Rover are 4WD and not AWD, Tommy lol I own my second Range Rover that is my comfortable daily driver! For off road use/overland use, I currently have a 4Runner, but have owned every North American vehicle that shares the platform that the current GX uses (FJ Cruiser, 5th gen 4Runner, Lexus GX) so know they are all 4WD lol. The Range Rover always blows my mind for how advanced her 4WD technology is. She grips out of everything, without any jerky delay!
@paulsmith4692
@paulsmith4692 11 ай бұрын
Most of the people criticising LR reliability have never had one. Some people who have them report they are the most reliable car they have had. Test drove new RSS p440e and bought one. super smooth and comfortable - go anywhere do anything in it.
@ThomasFerrugia
@ThomasFerrugia Жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Velar R-Dynamic HSE. Bought it from a JLR dealership with 45,000 miles on the clock. It's a CPO car so I have a warranty to 100,000 miles. Car is garbage. It's spent 144 days back at the dealership for an unending litany of mechanical and electrical failures. Just a few items: needed a new rear differential, both front headlamp assemblies had to be replaced, all sorts of software patches, a driver's seat motor, the rear AC vents will often blow piping hot air even when set to Lo (which the dealer can't fix) and the rear started rocking/swaying side to side under braking and when making left turns at highway speeds (dealer also can't fix). It's the only car I'd recommend leasing over buying.
@christopherwilson9140
@christopherwilson9140 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having the best 4x4 system in the game but nobody considers you an option because of 22in wheels and garbage reliability.
@Trapper4265
@Trapper4265 Жыл бұрын
Short-term tests are easy to prove. Have two owners who have the same amount of miles over a period of 5-7 years, and then ask for feedback. That's when you'll get an honest answer.
@Jantonvid
@Jantonvid Жыл бұрын
If you rich you get both! That way while the range is in the shop you can actually enjoy a capable vehicle
@bradcolby3624
@bradcolby3624 Жыл бұрын
Had 2015 GX 460. Could go anywhere without a single problem. I think a new model is coming soon..
@SlickFootTito
@SlickFootTito Жыл бұрын
Is that Range Rover on winter tires?
@albertodiazpr
@albertodiazpr Жыл бұрын
Hi Tommy! I want to give you a new series idea! Your personal Wrangler Sport S vs different new available SUVs. Should be nice to see the very basic more capable off roader in the word vs the other maybe more expensive SUVs. You can call the series, "Wrangler vs the World" or something like that. Keep up the great work 👍
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 Жыл бұрын
He sold it...
@doxydoxdelamanca9902
@doxydoxdelamanca9902 Жыл бұрын
What do you reckon that dashboard will cost when it breaks or malfunctions? I say $5k. But I'd say, what an amazing 4wd system to crawl those scary sidewalks when going to the mall.
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 Жыл бұрын
Is it worth a Cadillac CTS-V3 trade in?
@moloono1
@moloono1 Жыл бұрын
We all know who the true winner is, no matter what this test says.
@brentonhood
@brentonhood Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that Mud/Ruts allows some slippage on purpose. You'd have to choose another mode to limit the wheel slip more.
@DrivenHard
@DrivenHard Жыл бұрын
It does that to clear the tires to get fresh tread into the mud/ground.
@brentonhood
@brentonhood Жыл бұрын
@@DrivenHard the goat himself showing up what's up man
@DrivenHard
@DrivenHard Жыл бұрын
@@brentonhood hahaha bro careful my ego can't take that. Im doing well man, hope you are too!
@zachwaguespack2661
@zachwaguespack2661 Жыл бұрын
please do a explorer plt
@bngtr5607
@bngtr5607 Жыл бұрын
Would you test Acura Mdx awd.
@BTDrgonzo
@BTDrgonzo Жыл бұрын
One of your favorite engines? Is that because you went through three in the model TFL bought 😅
@chuanyong5442
@chuanyong5442 11 ай бұрын
LR allocates more funds on looks and tech at the expense of reliability and toyota does opposite. Depends on what each sees as importance.
@stevenf927
@stevenf927 Жыл бұрын
Oh this was hilarious. Most of these luxury SUVs are operated as 99% on the street. 1% offroad. And even in the worst comparison (for the GX) the GX still got through. So the GX took a couple of seconds to figure out how to get unstuck. Compared to the weeks or months the RR spends at the dealership getting fixed...... And the hit on the resale value......
@Seventh7Art
@Seventh7Art Жыл бұрын
Traction is not the only thing that matters in off-road driving. Ground clearance is vital and these vehicles don't have a lot of it...
@Shadownian
@Shadownian Жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter how good a system is if it breaks down all the time. Id take a competent system that works when you need it over a better system that im never sure if it will leave me stranded or not. Also your comparing a new Range Rover vs a Lexus with an around 15 year old system. Not to mention... Range Rover starts at: 107,400 Lexus Gx starts at 59,275
@arkhsm
@arkhsm Жыл бұрын
One's luxury, ones pretend luxury, that's the price difference !!
@Shadownian
@Shadownian Жыл бұрын
@@arkhsm Yeah RR should stop pretending.
@quinty26
@quinty26 Жыл бұрын
The difference is, both go off-road, but the Toyota will tow the RR out.😏
@Bradmopar
@Bradmopar 11 ай бұрын
The biggest thing is Land Rover will Never make a more off road version because it won’t sell to the people who buy them. If you want an off road land rover get and Enos Grenadier. You all should consider getting a range rover to long term test and see how often it’s at the dealer. Thanks for the content.
@ronaldrrootiii6040
@ronaldrrootiii6040 Жыл бұрын
Im still Rocking A Diaco 2 on 33s. Goes anywhere. Yeah it has its issues every now and then but nothing major. Overall it's pretty reliable and I trust it long distances. Can't beat that for $5,000 and working out some Kinks. Now the people who get an old disco and just drive the crap out of it never greasing checking changing to inline thermostat doing coil pack relocation cleaning checking again LOL all that then yeah it's a lot worse but otherwise $5,000 to pretty much do almost anything especially what nothing from the year 2000 besides the Disco on 33s can do with the exact same mods it's totally worth it. Doing a bed liner body spray in a few weeks. Just Center diff lock and traction control looking to do a rear Locker in fall
@CarnutMM
@CarnutMM Жыл бұрын
If this vehicle had 17” wheels, along with good approach, breakover and departure angles, it would be a force to reckon with. But it isn’t so unless you spend a lot of money on it, it will not go too far before getting hung up or stopped dead in its track on a trail.
@brianm5753
@brianm5753 Жыл бұрын
Lexus's system seems to apply some delay before intervening probably to let the driver actually drive before the robots come in to help
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er Жыл бұрын
Also saves the brakes. That Landrover is gonna fry those brakes in a HURRY.
@jeffreyjones3616
@jeffreyjones3616 4 ай бұрын
Nice cope 😂
@aveenmahabal
@aveenmahabal Жыл бұрын
Rock crawl mode should have been used on the roller. More controlled. Mud and ruts intentionally spins the other wheels, so it’s less smooth.
@greentruth89
@greentruth89 Жыл бұрын
Can we see how the jeep wk2 compare to the rang rover
@jaydenp.6243
@jaydenp.6243 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the new redesigned Gx (2024). Should be more modern. Definitely a newer design language. Newer tech. Plus the Lexus reliability and low maintenance cost. Should, hopefully, be able to better fight against these type of plush SUVs like the Range Rover.
@cbizkit36
@cbizkit36 Жыл бұрын
Isnt the GX the 4runner and the LX the Land Cruiser?🤔
@dashwithhash6106
@dashwithhash6106 6 ай бұрын
Wow that Lexus has so much wheel travel, impressive
@kendelion
@kendelion Жыл бұрын
Too bad non of these vehicles will ever experience "off-roading"
@alvago86
@alvago86 Жыл бұрын
You need to try the Toyota Version of that Lexus, the LC Prado with the diesel engine and better angles...
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