Rank of Imperial Consorts in Qing Dynasty

[@MissLaraAshcroft]

After watching so many harem dramas potrayed by beautiful and attractive chinese actresses, those pictures of the imperial consorts in real life kinda give me a whiplash..

[@vk311z8]

It’s the same with Hollywood Disney portrays of how Glamorous and beautiful Pocahontas but in reality she was not attractive and short and pudgy

[@joyfulserendipity4650]

Those ladies must be seen as beauties in their time because usually selection for the harem is based on nobility or beauty.

[@aliehudson6796]

@@joyfulserendipity4650 i dont think so. Usually imperial wives are chosen because of their family/clan and what they can contribute to the court. Also, the queen dowager (king's mother) usually rule out those too beautiful to avoid the king becoming too indulged in ..you know....making love with these women to the point of neglecting court business

[@MehWhatever99]

These are 150 year old photographs. No one looked good in those old photos. Have you ever seen Victorians in photos? had to stand still, not smile... I’m sure in living color they were presentable at the very least.

[@mrslcmsc9996]

Lol 😂 i was thinking the same thing. Sure they were beautiful by the Standards back then 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@tehnoobestgamer]

Huanghou - Empress (1) Huang Guifei - Imperial Noble Consort (1) Guifei - Noble Consort (2) Fei - Consort (4) Pin - Imperial Concubine (6) Guiren - Noble Lady (unlimited) Changzai - First-Class Female Attendant (unlimited) Daying - Second-Class Female Attendant (unlimited)

[@DicksonMcBride]

This is the correct one

[@johnlemuelm.santiago6036]

So wei ying lou skip to 6th rank

[@tehnoobestgamer]

@@johnlemuelm.santiago6036 if you base your *favorite* WYL, she started as a Guiren/Noble Lady.

[@applekroak996]

@@johnlemuelm.santiago6036 no she start from 6th rank. And skipped the 8th and 7th rank.

[@johnlemuelm.santiago6036]

@@applekroak996 yah but a noble lady should have not many maids and unoch and a main palace but she has many maids unoch and a place to her self

[@syahamir6039]

If you are empress, and your son ascended the throne, you will be called as Huang Tai Ho (Empress Dowager). If you have no son, but you are an Empress. After your stepson going to throne, you will. Call as Mu Hua Huang Tai Ho, (Step Mother, Empress Dowager) Then, if you only a consort, and your son ascended the throne, you will be call as Sheng Mu Huang Tai Ho. (Biological Mother, Empress Dowager)

[@massagemassage1929]

Story of Yanxi palace brought me here.

[@armaleemontallana5391]

Me to

[@nobodythingyham1702]

Meto

[@dotdm]

ying luo started as guiren (noble lady)/6th class and became an imperial noble consort/rank 2 at the end of the series

[@khimsothavann1562]

The legend of zhen huan brought me here

[@KingOfThePirates101]

Lol. Ruyi Royal Love in the Palace brought me here.

[@chitrikart2328]

Everybody's saying the emperor got bad luck, Here I'm saying the concubines got bad luck😥😣

[@Eadyt87]

Bad looks haha

[@blackhaze8863]

@@Eadyt87 not all concubine in bad looks lol...some of them must be pretty...well educated..clever and talented.. come from wellknown family (since the emperor's descendants must be born with qualities like their parents have).they come into the court due to political reasons. Even if the girls not willing to. It is bad luck for wasted beauty and talent there since the hareem must be filled with countless women (they deserve love and good husband too like in wuxia n xinxia drama haha) And..there is a chance that they cant even go near the emperor's chamber for a life time..

[@DBT1007]

No they not. In fact, concubines love to be concubine. They got some privileges there. But not with empress. The empress of course not happy. It's her husband and she need to share it. Plus, imagine if your husband got an heir but not from your womb. It's sad... The empress truly got a bad luck. Not the concubines. Your opinion is not right..

[@souldancersbyjennifer]

@@DBT1007 even the empresses are usually not married for love, but arranged. Basically no one knows what's happening but just the system running their lives from one generation to another. We're so lucky to be able to choose how we live and who we marry nowadays

[@Sashita_]

@@souldancersbyjennifer That was the truth about every culture/civilization. Irrespective of gender, they were married off at a very young age and were expected to follow the traditions ignoring emotions and personal aspirations. Even the emperor didn't escape that fate. He was mostly married off to a girl from the most powerful family, as his future empress at a very young age. Then he tries to find love in the harem, but women are simply interested in seducing him & using him for their personal interests. It's a very pathetic life.

[@rayjohnlim8740]

Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace brought me here. . ❤

[@arantzawen2481]

yessss me too

[@MeiinUK]

This lockdown has made us all perverts.. including me ! I don't even know why I am watching and reading all of this. It really is fascinating... but also upsetting too. To realise, this is "my heritage".... Crapstick.

[@yzadan3543]

@@MeiinUK ?????

[@dyh.4337]

@@MeiinUK I think you’re using the word “pervert” wrong.. Just because you’re reading/watching this type of stuff doesn’t make you a pervert [🤦‍♀️]. It’s probably you’re interested in these type of historical things in some ways.

[@mwills464]

I’m watching Ruyi’s Royal Love in the Palace as well. Considering this video, the Emperor in Ruyi has a relatively small harem. Watching the scenes of the daily Empress meetings, there only seems to be around a dozen or less ladies. I’m absolutely fascinated by this whole harem thing. I wonder how accurate the back stabbing and violence between the women really is.

[@vk311z8]

The Empress Dowager ( Mother of the Emperor ) is ahead of the Empress. She is the Top Matriarch and has way more Power than the Empress

[@lilly1000]

unless she was thrown into the cold palace 😭

[@bonhamcarter4488]

This is for Emperor's consorts

[@lilly1000]

@@bonhamcarter4488 the empress dowager WAS the former emperor’s consort

[@bonhamcarter4488]

@@lilly1000 yes I know. Anyway, I'm a rich lady (upper class family) and I'm used to these, traditions. My husband is a CEO, and we own 3 houses and 5 cars. We also vacation regularly. My friends love coming over to my house because it's an upper class house. So yes, I'm similar as well to Empress lifestyle.

[@lilly1000]

@@bonhamcarter4488 I’m sorry, are you comparing yourself to an EMPRESS of China? The model for many people, a living GODDESS, a Phoenix, a MOTHER of a country? You still have a long way to go if you think 3 houses and 5 cars would equal to an empress. You’re living comfortably, yes, but not living the lifestyle of an empress.

[@sheenahaven3324]

Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace brought me here😍 Love that show. So realistic than other historical drama I have watched where the main femaled lead always wins. I love the ending so much even if its heartbreaking. It was that kind of ending wherein everything just fell to that. Thank u for the explanation☺

[@0614Rei]

I was so stressed when I watched that

[@muhdamsyar8066]

Gurlll it was EVERYTHINGGGGG. When she cut her hair lemme tell you i GASPPPP

[@kaylalamers950]

@@muhdamsyar8066 me too. I never cry but that show had me in tears.

[@seemarai1388]

In reality did king really love and miss her 😢

[@jusdeananas]

No offence, but the historical photos don’t match the ranks you’re using them to illustrate. You’ve got a photo of Wanrong, Puyi’s empress, as an example of “pin”, but she was only ever the empress. You’re using a pic of Wenxiu, Puyi’s secondary wife, as an example of “gui ren”, but when she was married to him she was made a “fei”.

[@sylviahan766]

I was wondering why some of the lower ranked girls looked more fancy than some high ranked ones

[@seraphinmonteiro576]

Exactly, I thought about it too

[@Drummer8nimation]

good eye

[@blckvlvtx]

the picture used for "changzai" as well was consort Zhen (fei), posthumously imperial noble consort Keshun

[@karenbartlett1307]

"Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace" brought me here.

[@ivancruz6284]

You also forgot to mention that some ladies would be promoted instantly to a higher rank to pacify the aristocratic tribes(family). Even in ancient times monopoly of power always comes from the rich and powerful.

[@vitojosie]

It always has been. It will be in the future. No matter where. It's human history.

[@shelleynoseworthy4484]

i am learning this from watching Ruyi Love story!!

[@christinecameron1612]

Thank you for this very helpful video. I especially love all the photos showing pictures up close, to examine the stitching and design on their fine robes.

[@tsktsk6057]

I love the fact that they seem to all have round chubby faces

[@lavender1986]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@0614Rei]

With all that food, it's impossible not to get round

[@crogers3602]

Judging based on the art of the time period, I would say that was the beauty ideal.

[@tfor263]

Why is everyone talking so much about looks, some of this is no makeup and the kinds of hair styles, plus it would be better to have someone nice and loving then pretty

[@fad9236]

There is no someone nice and loving in imperial chinese harem lmao

[@chitrikart2328]

YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID THAT

[@nobodythingyham1702]

@@fad9236 ya ur right

[@midnightkpop8076]

array s bro calm your tits down

[@purrrmeow5323]

Midnight Kpop he was just telling them that they were wrong you sound bitter and cringy

[@callmemisajo7112]

Your pictures doesnt match the ranks! The 7th photo is Imperial Noble Consort kenshu, the 5th is the empress Wanrong and the 1st is Imperial Noble Consort Wenjing which is Imperial Noble Consort kenshu’s elder sister....

[@taniasouth]

*Ruyis royal love in the palace* got me obsessed with *Forbidden City* Life! This is why I'm here 👋 Also *Yanxi Palace* & now I'm watching *Legend of Hao Lan*

[@nadinesmith-jensen7732]

Thank you for this quick video explaining the Qing harems structure!

[@anonimouse1624]

thanks for helping me so I can organize my sims 3 polygamy let's play.

[@iancaldeian]

Thanks for sharing the ranking system. "Empresses in the Palace" is my all time favorite Chinese historical drama followed very closely by "The Legend of Yanxi Palace".

[@danielblue4460]

Higher consorts were appointed by parents when the heir is still a child that meant by arrangement with noble families or the dauphin is reaching adolescent. The women were not selected in a beauty pageant. I think some of the "women" esp the last ones are eunuchs and not royal consorts. 😁

[@Eadyt87]

Do u know that eunuch are MALE????

[@SL-lz9jr]

@@Eadyt87 that’s exactly OP’s point ;)

[@Eadyt87]

@@SL-lz9jr Hahaha yes actually

[@lilly1000]

Sometimes in the Qing Dynasty, the Emperor, Grand Empress Dowager, and Mother Empress Dowager would hold a feast or party and invite all the noble families and their daughters in hopes of a noble lady catching the emperor’s attention. There, the Emperor could bestow her rank at an auspicious date, unless the Grand Empress Dowager was extremely influential and powerful. If that was the case, then the Grand Empress Dowager would select the women for the emperor.

[@Eadyt87]

@@lilly1000 What is difference between Empress Dowager mother and Grand Empress Dowager???

[@magnvss]

And all of this was stratified and highly regulated as to avoid the highest level of cat-fight you would have in a harem where dozens of women may compete for one… thingy. And not only by their own interests but under the pressure of their families.

[@krismakardikan9823]

You'd almost think the guy at the top didn't already have enough to do...

[@moonsorrow77]

If anyone interested in this,watch the TV movie called EMPRESSES IN THE PALACE..very good tv series..it’s all about concubines in the palace fighting for the right to be with the emperor and moving up the ladder..lol next to the empress..lots of scheming and backstabbing each other,love and hate relationships between these concubines..

[@diannelinam2407]

My favorite drama!

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

Yeah, it has sequel called “Ruyi: Royal love in the palace”

[@hcrh7514]

@@MrAdhiSuryana there is also story of yanxi palace.

[@lazymodecooking8467]

Already finished watching Empresses in the Palace and Ruyi’s Royal Love in the Palace. Both are very good drama series. 👍🏼

[@aliehudson6796]

That drama is amazing

[@anthonyelbanbuena6167]

Story of yanxi palace bring me to learn this

[@maelaekristinaquinones4310]

Thank you! I hope they make more Qing Dynasty dramas

[@rosemaryphang8672]

Thanks for your sharing, I was very confused while watching Yangxi palace.

[@NatsumeFaiz]

Empress Tzu An, Empress Longyu and Empress Wanrong all childless although they grab the higher title in the palace. I doubt whether Empress Alute was pregnant or not. Some historian said yes but other was not.

[@zhubajie6940]

Great job, perhaps you can do something on the ranks of the princes and also the bureaucrats with their associated "Mandarin Squares".

[@hurtstopee1895]

second! do both men and women. maybe a diagram of those halls and typical locations according to rank.

[@kenarreza16]

I always get confused and this one enlightened me. A big thanks for this! ♥

[@johnerwin9024]

family used to have a statuette, look like it had age, of some lady of the court, didn't really understand the background of it-

[@NojQauNyoosQabTshaj]

Pronunciation is kind of off.

[@never4ever386]

It’s clearly not his native tongue but it’s close enough to understand.

[@judymarais12345]

Fascinating information. Love the series. Can't stop watching. On episode 76.

[@sassysales2572]

I love the story of yanxi palace is a great teleserye ever. I never watched drama but this, is so amazing you gonna watch guy's. Story of yanxi palace love it so much.

[@孝欽顯皇后葉赫那拉氏]

did the European royal harem have the same hierarchy among the women of the Emperor/King?

[@alanchen8272]

As far as I know, European don't have many wives. I don't know if it is because christian, there is always one wife. So noble will find mistress, and if you have read the classic book Camellia, you will have a general look of the ancient European upper society.

[@iSayMonica]

Not as common, they had mistresses who were unofficial. Not married.

[@kozmickhandi9951]

The ladies here 😳looking nothing like the actresses that play them .... 🤔 great up load very interesting 👍🏾👍🏾

[@kuyabokish]

the series "empress of china" can explain the consort rankings well

[@0614Rei]

Legend of Zhen Huan explains it better

[@MorzJiez]

เรื่องแซ่บๆ ในประวัติศาสตร์ nice to see you again eiei

[@divineme900]

dude, u need to watch more c-drama to learn how to properly pronounce their rankings

[@alaiwatdapak6290]

True HAHAHA

[@yuetng4648]

Agreed. His pronunciation isn’t quite correct and it sucks!

[@trichellevargas2908]

I thought he sounded like Chinese

[@wlleong5005]

@@trichellevargas2908 he sounds Thai

[@trichellevargas2908]

@@wlleong5005 could be. I don't speak either language of either place, just watch a lot of c drama. I would have done worse lol

[@popaganda919]

concubines carefully selected, how did 2:07 made it through the "pretty" test?

[@Littleathquakes]

does the size of the headpiece have any relation to the rank of the concubines?

[@disneydisney1490]

Being in the royal court in China, especially the Harem is basically having a knife on your throat constantly

[@Foxie635]

The movie Ruyi’s Royal love is a great example of concubines.

[@Mrs.miriam]

The picture used in the "guiren" category belongs to the concubine of the last qing emperor PUYI. She was the one who divorced the emperor which caused quite a scandal because it's usually the emperor who will cast his concubines away( not wanting her) and not the other way around. Only her picture was used.she was never a guiren. She became the concubine immediately,not rose from the ranks. She was the chosen one of puyi but the girl's backer is not as powerful as the empress's backer so she became the concubine instead of becoming the empress consort. She was 16 when she got married,I think?

[@untaughtbiblelessons]

Changzai is the female lead character in Meteor Garden, am i right? 🤔🤔🤔

[@Tracks777]

lovely content

[@rome316ae3]

So there is cast system in China too

[@_s_lena4160]

Story of yanxi palace brought me here

[@ikumi-ei4jx]

日本語の字幕を付けていただけないでしょうか。

[@anemoneamaryllis8876]

Is there something called Grand Empress Dowager ?

[@meimei23]

I think your photos of the concubines and their rankings are wrong..

[@fandomencounter1672]

Guys I got a question. U know wu zetian? What happened to all the concubines and consorts that served the emperor when she became empress? Did she send them away or kill them I wonder

[@DicksonMcBride]

They all die.

[@fandomencounter1672]

@@DicksonMcBride how

[@DicksonMcBride]

@@fandomencounter1672 you can watch Empress of China for detail

[@Sharon_Clawson]

Not all of them died. Most of those lady were sent to Monastery to be Buddhist Nuns.

[@fandomencounter1672]

@@Sharon_Clawson that sucks at least they weren't killed tho

[@hehehehfun4938]

What happened to all of them if the emperor died and his son takes over?

[@stell3845]

The concubines/ other wives other than the empress dowager go to a Buddhist temple and become nuns for the rest of their lives.

[@lilly1000]

Sometimes, the consorts would be buried along with the deceased emperor to follow him in the afterlife, besides the current emperor’s mother and the empress. But that was abolished long ago. And other times, they would be allowed to stay in their palace as Consort Dowager (Tai Fei). Lastly, they could choose to leave the palace and become a nun.

[@maryanneayumi9594]

What do you call the noble men in Qing Dynasty?

[@user-or7ji5hv8y]

How is this ultimate luxury? What people desired once now seem so strange?

[@mauvehawaii]

what kind of title is "responder"

[@TheChamaemelum]

ช่องนี้คนไทยไหมเนี่ย ภาษาอังกฤษสำเนียงไทยชัดเจนมาก

[@ismailmazlan5703]

I wonder why the emperor don't get hiv while having changing of partner

[@Mrs.miriam]

The picture of the concubine in the "changzai" category is shufei( only her picture was used.she did not belong in this concubine category)the favorite concubine of emperor guangxu ,the most handsome of all qing emperors.he was poisoned by dowager empress cixi Because of his radical liberal views of modernism.shufei was the one pushed into the well( murdered) by the eunuchs upon the orders of empress dowager cixi as they were leaving the palace when the 8-nation-alliance soldiers came to ransack the palace.

[@surfelvis5946]

Does an official title of Concubine not exist? I assume that where the chart says Honorable, as in Honorable Lady (6th tier), it means Noble Lady, is this correct? Also, can you tell which rank a woman is by the type o by her headdress? Thanks!

[@toffthe]

Must have been a real kicker not to be able to use a Phoenix hair pin

[@littlebitbritish]

This is very interesting, however the pronunciation is really incorrect for the Chinese, it's quite off putting.

[@TheNguyen-hx8lv]

The Empress is invincible, she can punish or even execute other concubines if they commit major crimes in the harem ( even if they are as noble as an imperial honorable consort ). The empress has a lot of privileges that other concubines never have, the empress cannot be easily removed and even the emperor respect her face and part. So no one dared to confront the empress, no one dared offend her, her words were like the emperor‘s command, sometime the emperor does not dare to punish the empress. That's why concubines only dare to fight with each other but dare not fight the empress and the fact that the concubines toppled the empress to take the throne is considered the most absurd thing in Chinese harem films.

[@cdekate3144]

Thank you this helps place everyone’s role better.

[@Emasmim]

This video is not well researched.. so many mistakes.... the ladies shown in the photos are all not in their correct ranks..

[@fyldeherbs]

Very interesting and clear👍

[@lapizaini5218]

Daying??? in malay royal court house its call dayang

[@applekroak996]

Daying in Chinese literally translated into Promised.

[@lapizaini5218]

@@applekroak996 oic. thanks for the info

[@bonhamcarter4488]

@@lapizaini5218 aku lah Ratu Bonda. Refer to me as Your Majesty!

[@lapizaini5218]

@@bonhamcarter4488 Bonda ka atau von dutch?

[@souldancersbyjennifer]

But dayangs are servants or maids, no?

[@Raymondjamot1973]

Expectation vs reality 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[@nannogray4412]

Diff times ..so diff beauty standard

[@chaqu2341]

Zhenhuan, Ruyi and Yanxi...

[@0614Rei]

agreed!

[@alfredom.antonio8812]

One of the picture is the last empress.of china. Wanrong her name.i think

[@robertschlesinger1342]

Interesting and worthwhile video.

[@mayanaware2763]

...Wow so these asian dramas really exaggerated how their actors and actresses looked...because these pictures are something completely different

[@vk311z8]

it's the same with Hollywood. People only want to see good looking people

[@Mosin.N]

I literally have no idea why this popped in my suggestions as I don't watch these dramas but still watched all of it. 😅

[@hadiyahalkauthar]

The Qing Dynasty was Manchu, not Chinese.

[@gp2779]

In a linguistic context, the term ‘Chinese’ is more often associated with the country ‘China’. Thus, the Qing Dynasty and the Manchurian people are very much Chinese, along with the Uyghurs, Tibetans and tribal people of Miao in Yunan. To be precise, the Qing Dynasty was Manchu, but not Han Chinese.

[@hadiyahalkauthar]

@@gp2779This may be true today, but it certainly was not back then. The Manchus were called foreign invaders by the majority ethnic Han Chinese during the Qing Dynasty. Please take a look at your history books. All male Han Chinese were even forced to adopt the Manchu Queue hairstyle (shaved at the front and long at the back), on pain of execution, by their foreign Qing rulers. This generated great resentment among the ethnic Han Chinese since their Confucian tradition forbade both men and women from cutting their hair. Sun Yat-sen, among many other Chinese historical figures, strove to rid China of of those they called the "northern barbarians", the Manchu Qing rulers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Qing_sentiment

[@christinem4266]

Chinese mainstream culture is made up with mainly Han and Manchu culture. All the cultures of other ethnicities are quite different from the Chinese culture we know.

[@ag_p4007]

If an emperor grandmother still alive, is she still live in palace? And what her title?

[@MercureYgg]

She would be titled 太皇太后 (tài huáng tài hòu, maybe it can be translated into "great imperial dowager empress"), and she would be of course the most respected woman in the palace, having precedence over the emperor's mother (太后, tài hòu, "empress dowager") and the emperor's spouses. I am not sure but I think she could still live in the Forbidden City or decide to move to the Summer Palace (it must be up to her)

[@ag_p4007]

@@MercureYgg so it's like 대왕대비 in Korean historical drama then i guess

[@harukrentz435]

@@ag_p4007 confucianism put parents on pedestial place.

[@gracieosornio9291]

i can't stop watching ruyi's royal love !!! so much better than the bachelor, this was mf real!

[@NatsumeFaiz]

What is the Manchu name for this rank?

[@jakobraahauge7299]

Cixi? How would her rank and her path to it be described?

[@midnightkpop8076]

Jakob Raahauge empress dowager

[@jakobraahauge7299]

@@midnightkpop8076 Prior to that.) The Empress Dowager is known as just that, here in the West. The system of royal titles is quite different here

[@ff82800]

​@@jakobraahauge7299 Gege --> Gui Ren --> Pin --> Fei --> Gui Fei --> Huang Tai Hou en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Dowager_Cixi

[@lilly1000]

@@ff82800 Gege are the emperor’s brother’s daughters.

[@kingkyleiv7960]

I have a question how can you rank up?

[@lilly1000]

They can rank up or secure their position by gaining favor from the Mother Empress Dowager, Grand Empress Dowager, or Emperor. They can also rank up easily by bearing a child, preferably a son. It was kind of risky if you were pregnant because all the other consorts would want to kill you and your child because you would be bearing the royal offspring, which means you would have a chance at becoming the next mother empress dowager, or grand empress dowager.

[@alquinbasa4974]

Story of Yanxi Palace & Ruyi Brought me Here

[@mortalle22fj]

All this they were poison each other And killing each concubine children it was hell in the palace

[@IzAhKaYaH]

Both Yanxi Palace And Ru-Yi Brought Me Here

[@0614Rei]

Have u watched legend of Zhen Huan? It's the prequel of these two

[@farrahrozy3150]

story of yanxi palace bring me here!!!!

[@saltedcaramelketchuptoppin5331]

Low key I think you are a Thai, waw ❤️ make more content like this please

[@cuquat7225]

1:08 some of them look pretty tho

[@cuquat7225]

3:23 too

[@huitribewang6633]

The 2 main lead actresses (Qin Lan n Dong Jie) as empresses in Yanxi Palace n Ruyi's Royal Love respectively r far better looking than the real ones for sure. Of course modern day manchurian actresses like Aisin Gioro Qising, Shen Aojun n Guan Xi Tong r certainly not lacking in the look dept. Arguably the 4 most famous female celebrities of manchurian descent r Li Hsian Lan, Rosamund Kwan, Kathy Chow n Na Ying.

[@nadianathamon2365]

r u the same voice from เรื่องแซ่บในประวัติศาสตร์ ?

[@greenviolist34]

when the empress came up... he said "ugly and fat" was he describing the woman in the photo that's shown? ouch...

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

Zach I think the fat woman is actually an empress

[@msmagnolia1627]

So.... all these were the Emperor’s wives. Sorry for my ignorance. I’m a foreigner. Your history fascinates me. No disrespect.

[@amoybrown8240]

You can say so...the Empress is the main wife and the others are concubines

[@keizelharf5393]

Yes. All of them were Emperor's wives. Empress was his main wife and concubine was secondary wife. All of them were legally wives and their children were legitimate child.

[@ktgirl-oh9px]

Empress was the primary wife. Concubines were just that concubine. So the children born from the empress, regardless of age or anything else, had higher social status and the sons more likely to be heirs.

[@msmagnolia1627]

So, if the empress cannot bear any children, is the children from the concubines can be the next emperor? Or do they have hierachy status among the concubines?

[@ktgirl-oh9px]

@@msmagnolia1627 Well of course there's hierarchy amongst the concubines as well. The ones with powerful families as their backing will also provide their sons with better backing in the imperial court. But yes the sons of the concubines could inherit the throne and they did inherit the throne in history. Emperor Yongzheng was not the son of the official wife. Emperor Jiaqing was the son of Imperial Noble Consort Ling (Yanxi Palace and Ruyi's Royal Love). But in these cases if the official wife survives her husband then she becomes the Empress Dowager even if the sitting emperor is not her son. The emperor also has to show filial piety to her and call her mother. And then the empress could adopt a son of a concubine and his name would be recorded under her name in the Imperial records. Anyway, as the primary wife of the emperor she wielded quite an influence in inner court as long as she doesn't get deposed.

[@zeroluckinsong]

No wonder the Emperor need so many woman, in term to find one with better look. Or... it because the effect of "the ugly among the worst would become the prettiest after several month". Even all the eunuch's face so broken to add more effect. That's why those Imperial Noble Consort looks so old, coz in Emperor eyes they're the best! (Beside killing all the the women who looks better than them, or maybe the same would die too).

[@MeiinUK]

Because they were Mongolians ? If you see Hans chinese, they have cute round faces !! :))

[@theshriekinghominin1760]

@@MeiinUK manchu

[@lilly1000]

There were different beauty standards for each dynasty back then. In the Qing Dynasty, having an extremely beautiful consort or empress would be a curse because they were thought to be vixens who were sent to destroy the kingdom.

[@zeroluckinsong]

@@lilly1000 Kill the pretty. That adding more reason why no one looks good.

[@alanchen8272]

@@MeiinUK They are mongol, manchu, han Chinese, central asian, korean in the history have been the concubine.

[@alexkok1079]

Not really correct. There is one more lower rank which is lower than Daying. The lowest rank is Guan Nuzi with unlimited number.

[@vas2346]

Thank you, now I can understand Chinese dorama.

[@Iam-me]

Before go to no 1 already old at the position no 3 😫

[@robertkusuma528]

Almost all consort not Pretty, you got Bad Luck Emperror.

[@mermasalas8093]

Their beauty standard is different before compare today.

[@lessQQmorePewPew.]

@@mermasalas8093 Their standards must be really low

[@ms.chuisin7727]

The pretty one always die first. If you watched chinese drama then you'll understand.

[@iishyxvietxboyii1]

That’s why emperors had thousands, lol.

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

Their beauty standards consists of singing, dancing, making poetry, embroidering Todays beauty standard consists of titties, ass and body augmentation

[@annajackson5534]

Hate to said it but these women look like they had a hard life in the palace

[@souldancersbyjennifer]

But generally people do have very hard lives back then...

[@paradisehomeland]

What is a sedan?

[@vonnyanggraeni6289]

It's a transportation/car things, if u see CDrama and u see their transportation wich use a horse or pick up by men. That's what they call sedan chair or jiao zi in Chinese

[@trichellevargas2908]

Very good explanation

[@pookyk.6107]

R u also running another channel called "เรื่องแซบๆในประวัติศาสตร์". It is exactly the same voice.

[@04ne95]

You're so much have Thai accent :) I'm Thai, and royal history addictor

[@MeiinUK]

Did he say "harem" ??!!!! OMG.... !!!!! This is Mongolian culture I'm sure... It reminded me of...egyptian or something. That middle-eastern culture....

[@ivancruz6284]

Its still called harem

[@never4ever386]

Harem is a borrowed word from the Middle East but applicable for the Chinese system too.

[@lilly1000]

To be honest, they spoke in Chinese, so it would be “Hou Gong” or “Dian Zhu”. Harem is just a translation for foreigners.

[@souldancersbyjennifer]

The Chinese has a culture of having many wives for most of history. Nothing much to do with Mongolia culture. Many cultures practice that...

[@MeiinUK]

@@souldancersbyjennifer : This is not "Chinese culture"... and it was not acceptable either. This is tribal behaviours. Qing dynasty.. carried on some of the olden tribal behaviours... and they assumed that, the "government and population" could be controlled like a single leader tribal setup.. And where did they get this from ?? Wasn't Russia influencing them a lot, by money, and by more and more actual communistic behaviours ? i.e. "Share share share for the greater goods".... Kind of thing ??

[@crystalcordell7102]

Yikes the headdress...must be heavy

[@MsSsplendid]

Why Manchurian empire becomes Chinese dynasty??? Manchus are not Chinese. Culturally, ethnically they are not Chinese. The Manchurian empire which you call the qing dynasty must belong to Manchus.

[@gp2779]

In a linguistic context, the term ‘Chinese’ is more often associated with the country ‘China’. Thus, the Qing Dynasty and the Manchurian people are very much Chinese, along with the Uyghurs, Tibetans and tribal people of Miao in Yunan. To be precise, the Qing Dynasty was Manchu, but not Han Chinese.

[@yifu100]

but Manchus are Chinese today, and they are even in the Chinese communist party today lol.

[@alanchen8272]

They deeply adpoted Chinese culture and ruled in Chinese way.

[@MercureYgg]

It is worth noticing that very few Mandchus still knew how to speak mandchurian at the end of Qing dynasty except the imperial family. The emperors noticed and complained that even mandchurian officials were unable to understand basic mandchurian; they've been quite sinicised throughout the time

[@christinem4266]

They conquered China land and resources, got themselves sinicized with Chinese culture, many assimilated into the Chinese. Qing dynasty never fully belongs to Manchus. But Manchu will no longer be Chinese if they can get independence in the future.

[@johnerwin9024]

interesting; love the photographs👍