Dropped the ball completely with purposely avoiding talking about Grand Seiko
@johnshields36587 ай бұрын
Came to the comments to say the same!
@TheRealBrook19686 ай бұрын
I agree. I am surprised that Citizen, the largest watchmaker by sales in the world, Timex and Casio were not mentioned, even if just for the low scores. Too much "the peoples'" watches?
@TheMajortom752 ай бұрын
Completely agree!
@daygon128 Жыл бұрын
I just realized why Casio is not on this list. God Tier.
@JustMeTalking Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Casio MRG G-Shock. God Tier Also, where is Grand Seiko...
@cmthekilla Жыл бұрын
@@JustMeTalkingGrand Seiko, also God Tier Gear 777
@bdegrds Жыл бұрын
Casio is cheap Chinese mass produced tech
@daygon128 Жыл бұрын
@@bdegrds Japanese company. They make the toughest and most reliable watches in the world with their G Shock line. There is a reason military and law enforcement swear by them. I've had my original G Shock since 1998 and it's never had to be serviced whereas both my Rolex and Omega need serviced regularly. They aren't the flashiest or most luxurious watches, but they are the best value for dollar of any watch brand in history and that's not debatable.
@mrkirkaldy6633 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Yamayamauchiman Жыл бұрын
A lot of unnecessary brands were discussed, but some important ones were left out. Grand Seiko, Habring², Raymond Weil, Christopher Ward, Christiaan Van der Klauw to name a few
@dominicdemicco11 ай бұрын
Throw Mido in there too
@smokingiscool59910 ай бұрын
Casio
@nicolasp10910 ай бұрын
Also Marathon and Sinn
@madtommo93978 ай бұрын
You cannot get a accurate list, if its been done by watch snobs!
@ilktomiproperties7 ай бұрын
And especially Frank Muller
@Btx_77-80 Жыл бұрын
You seriously ranked Nomos higher than Vacheron Constantin? I disagree with that.
@MKGamingInvesting Жыл бұрын
Value
@oak6302 Жыл бұрын
Hes deranged
@DuxetRex Жыл бұрын
Hipster ranking
@johnmacintyre6231 Жыл бұрын
Vacheron #1 pieces of beauty
@Sokidzone-jj8mv Жыл бұрын
Nomos is great.
@scsmith4604 Жыл бұрын
I wish Grand Seiko would have been discussed as well as Frederico's opinion of Orient for value. If you are a recent college grad who has no cash or just need an everyday watch that you do not care if it gets banged around then Orient is a great buy.
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
Even rich watch enthusiasts wear Orient watches because they are cool and horologically significant.
@ScotchOnyx Жыл бұрын
Also weird how no mention of Frank Muller and Richard Mille
@LeonDNumidia Жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko keeps hiding awfully finished movements behind crystals with stamped motifs. They have beautiful watches like the Eichi II, but those are a exception. Lot of fuzz about nothing inside.
@Meatbun Жыл бұрын
I have two Orient(SEIKO) mechanical watches, the cheap Bambino line (about $140, edit: Looks like with inflation they are about $170 now) almost 10 years requiring zero maintenance and I get compliments all the time. They are nice subtle watches with leather bands if you don't want to go for the all jewelry look of a Rolex. I wear them at my white-collar job that is business casual or business formal when it comes to dress.
@d.stiefel869 Жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko is for beta males and is below an F- which is why it wasn’t discussed.
@jamesbyles7070 Жыл бұрын
Got to admit that I have never agreed more with a watch ranking than this. Thanks Federico. For all those bemoaning why this or that brand is missing, nowhere does it claim to be a comprehensive list - just 57 watch brands.
@neil4701 Жыл бұрын
I think Longines and Tudor should have been a little higher. They're exceptionally good value and increasingly high quality in functional terms, as well as having distinctive and/or attractive aesthetics.
@fontyyy Жыл бұрын
If you're ranking Rolex "c" (and in the bigger picture that is fair) then Tudor, Longines and even Christopher Ward are c- or below, they have to be. Only Omega could complain, TBF, from a horology POV they kick Rolex from pillar to post but they need to sort out their marketing, stop copying Rolex!
@neil4701 Жыл бұрын
@@fontyyy Rolex is B-/C+ on the chart. I think Tudor and Longines should have been on the next band down from that, i.e. C (so at least on par with Breitling and certainly above Tag Heuer, Tissot and Bell & Ross). But probably Rolex should have been B, same as Omega. I agree that from a horological innovation PoV Omega is way ahead of Rolex, but we aren't really told what the criteria are (in fact they seem to change depending on what brand he's talking about), and Rolex excel in other areas (although it should still be well below the top tiers). Another thing we aren't told is the relative weighting of historical achievements vs. modern offerings (or in terms of actual watches, contemporary vs. vintage). Longines especially should gain more points for its historical achievements. Basically, what's weirdest about the chart is that only Breitling is in the C band, when that band should have been used for several brands that are currently in the bands immediately below and above that. Oh, and Grand Seiko should have been A-/B+, with Seiko itself remaining in the B-/C+m band... ;-)
@USASMR-o2c Жыл бұрын
@@neil4701the criteria is whatever is on the inventory of Delray watches... if you have a lot of omega to push and few rolex in your inventory, you will also rank omega and nomos over rolex...
@fontyyy Жыл бұрын
@@neil4701 Grand Seiko? F- at best.
@neil4701 Жыл бұрын
@@fontyyy What a strange comment.
@kishanpurohit2145 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. It would have been interesting to have even discussed Breguet, Grand Seiko, Meistersinger. Breguet not there on the list was a shocker.
@truthoverfacts9254 Жыл бұрын
I agree, Breguet not on the list, should be criminal. I kept thinking they hadn't gotten to them yet, and then the video ended with no mention.
@SnazzyZubloids Жыл бұрын
Easy A. It's Breguet, it can't be anything else.
@grohomot Жыл бұрын
Because Breguet is on the S
@vannaeldwijk7075 Жыл бұрын
Totally 😢
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
Breguet not there shows what a joke this list is.
@dons7622 Жыл бұрын
Did I miss a comment on Breguet? I know they may have fallen from your grace being owned by Swatch, but don't they have craft and quality and history to place well, and be significant? Their guilloche' is special. Grand Seiko spring drive- also significant, and no mention in the Seiko section.
@springinfialta106 Жыл бұрын
Frederique Constant deserved a mention (and not just as the owner of Alpina.) They have that completely new one-piece movement that is horologically important. I would stay away from their gold-plated watches, but their steel watches have classically good looks.
@robertsmithpresents Жыл бұрын
I agree. Their world timer manufacture is terrific.
@Sumerdini11 ай бұрын
Frederic Constant should be "B minus" IMO...
@Linusgump Жыл бұрын
As an owner of two Tissot watches I really hoped you would have rated them higher, but as I think about the problems I’ve had with both of them I think your score is fair. But, a major point in their favor, when I sent my first one in for service earlier this year, they sent me back my original watch and a brand new version of the same model because parts for my older watch are no longer being made. So that’s cool that they just gave me a new watch.
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
He is snob and very biased.
@scsmith4604 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Tissot watches are nice. Wear whatever you want and do not worry about what other people think.
@michaelriera6277 Жыл бұрын
Tissot offers tremendous quality to price ratio.
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
Tissot is garbage. Very poor quality control.
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
Tissot is outstanding quality control and while the brand in a lowest part of Swiss watch “hierarchy pyramid”, but still highly respectable and belongs to the strongest watch family in the world.
@Hildigis Жыл бұрын
Nice! And I am looking forward to part 2: Casio, Citizen, Certina, Orient,...
@xyzabc7694 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they won't be touching these brands! The focus is more on the high end brands not value brands
@heycidskyja4668 Жыл бұрын
The channel focuses on up-market brands - certainly no Casio, Orient, Vostok etc.
@staceygram5555 Жыл бұрын
@@heycidskyja4668 You must not have watched the video yet...
@robertberes4414 Жыл бұрын
Casio is God tier. They didn’t have a rank high enough on the scale.
@staceygram5555 Жыл бұрын
@@chiefeugene Marathon is Canadian... And the watches are built in Switzerland.
@Johnny3514 Жыл бұрын
As some of you already mentioned, how can they keep Glashütte Original, Grand Seiko and Breguet out…?
@c.san.8751 Жыл бұрын
Even makes like Orient and Citizen.
@urosjovanovic3142 Жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko? Casio? Orient? Festina? Citizen? (people also mentioned Breguet) I would love to hear his opinion on these, too.
@maximilianmaier39509 ай бұрын
These are definitely the wrong guys to rank brands like Orient, Citizen, Festina or Casio, because the was a lot of watch snobbery in this ranking. Like this is the first time I heard someone say that Seiko builds inexpensive bad watches, while most of the watch community would say that even the cheaper Seikos are pretty good watches for their price. All in all this was a very opinionated ranking with some brands being knocked down for their more affordable watches, like it was only based on the overall quality of the watches and not value for money, but then TUDOR is ranked above Rolex.
@-Derp-8 ай бұрын
For sure, Orient are beasts of a watch. I have 3 for travel beaters. Cant rate them highly enough. Price aside, they proudly box in the C tier I think.
@urosjovanovic31428 ай бұрын
@@-Derp- Bambino is an absolute beauty!
@-Derp-8 ай бұрын
@@urosjovanovic3142 Fo sho. I have Kamasu, Mako, Kanno, they are great.
@rodrigozauli65735 ай бұрын
Jacob & co?
@stonec2166 Жыл бұрын
No Breguet, did I miss something? I’ve actually have received excellent customer service from Cartier, that said I deal directly with my local Boutique.
@DecemberNames Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to take a moment to say how amazing your video was! I was really impressed with the quality of the footage, the editing, and the overall presentation. You did a great job of explaining the topic in a clear and concise way, and I learned a lot from watching your video. I also really appreciated the way you made the video engaging and entertaining. You kept my attention throughout the entire video, and I never felt bored or lost. I would definitely recommend your video to anyone who is interested in learning more about the video.
@corgi_leonberger7233 Жыл бұрын
What no Breguet! That's how under the radar and overlooked this brand is and surprised Grand Seiko wasn't too.
@loxxrider Жыл бұрын
That was my first thought as well. I was really hoping to see where Breguet ended up.
@superpeluso1 Жыл бұрын
Well he mostly talks about tacky fashion can’t spect much. breguet is at top . Especially the 5157 🤔 getting one soon
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
I own Breguet and it’s not just they are under the radar…it’s that these guys know very little about watches.
@soerren53939 ай бұрын
the young man to the left needs some education. Sad ducumentation
@bicoalmalek8544 Жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention the prestigious Breguet. it should be at least A-
@denovemportem7 ай бұрын
And Franck Muller.
@otterlyfresh2886 Жыл бұрын
Oris deserves higher for their bronze work alone. It's unmatched in the industry. I know it's a niche thing because bronze isn't popular, but they destroy the competition with their metallurgy.
@bdegrds Жыл бұрын
No, oris is good but they are entry luxury don't make them out to be something they aren't. Oris only uses grade 2 titanium. Rolex uses their own foundry. Blancpain uses grade 23 titanium etc
@eviloverlordsean Жыл бұрын
You guys need to do a sequel on more brands! But, much more than that, it's fun just listening to experts talk about this stuff.
@chadyrizkallah62427 ай бұрын
Can't take anyone who ranks Nomos and Van Cleef higher than Rolex, Vacheron Constatin, and FP Journe seriously. He ranks some watches based on customer service, others based on craftsmanship. Without Rolex (Whether it's history or craftsmanship), we won't be talking about watches in general the same as we are today. While Van Cleef... Please.
@MUF1000 Жыл бұрын
Nice list. I was a little disappointed that Breguet did not appear, but then again I may have missed it.
@juniortoledo8088 Жыл бұрын
Breguet, an -A, just because they are underrated. Top notch Horology.
@007EnglishAcademy Жыл бұрын
Breguet are a class above the rubbish in this list
@phillipsugwas9 ай бұрын
Who has been watching those adverts. Rather buy a Steinhart than a rolex. V for value. Rolex are tractors.
@susfu4988 Жыл бұрын
I’d give this ranking a solid D. No Grand Seiko and no Credor pulled the grade down considerably.
@shukeelc5177 Жыл бұрын
To be fair he did say makes some of the best watches in the world. I'd be certain he was referring Grand Seiko even though he didn't specify
@rl7487 Жыл бұрын
I think when he said seiko makes some of the best watches in the world he might have been including grand seiko
@billbrown4745 Жыл бұрын
Most people in the US have never seen a Credor, or know what one is. I have and they are not my cup of tea.
@Crazy_Joe_Davola8 ай бұрын
Ranking the "best" watch is like ranking the "best" car. It all depends: Most luxurious? Most ruggedly reliable? Best value for money? Best value retention? Most accurate? Most innovative? Easiest to repair? Best combination of these attributes? You cannot increase one attribute without taking away from some other attribute.
@MichaelD-p1p Жыл бұрын
Between those pants and those glasses, I don't know who I trust the least. I'm impressed a boutique brand like LIV made the list with some of these household names. They've been my "secret weapon" in my collection for many years now, so the fact they got mentioned speaks volumes above that clearly ignorant grade.
@popecosh307 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. Probably one of the most honest and fair ratings I’ve seen Federico really knows his stuff
@Vano233 Жыл бұрын
Blancpain went out of business for 100 years and reappeared on 80s. Suuure, right
@carlospagi Жыл бұрын
You are so luky to have such a gentleman as Fed on your channel. I don't normally like these 'ranking watches' type of show but if anyone's going to do it you chose the right man. Great video, thanks very much indeed.
@NathanieI87 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I knew Lange & Söhne would be on A. Sadly you forgot about Glashütte Original and Union Glashütte. They are the small leftover companies that have been rebuilt after the German reunification in 1990. I visited both companies a few years ago. They still make world class watches on the level of Lange & Söhne and NOMOS
@herbtube7824 Жыл бұрын
Glashütte Original produces great watches, but they are nowhere near A. Lange & Söhne…
@scsmith4604 Жыл бұрын
Nomos yes, Söhne no.
@ScotchOnyx Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, weird how Nomos is mentioned on this list but no GO and UG. Spectacular German craftmanship. Glashuette Original is good value and the swatch group has recently done some good marketing push for them. The panomaticlunar is a very iconic series. I do agree with comments, it's far from A. Lange & Sohne quality.
@Rudypoo4210 ай бұрын
Any opinion of Sinn? I own a 556 and it has been my most worn time piece.
@phillipsugwas9 ай бұрын
Lange & Söhne. Simply brilliant quality
@bekind1784 Жыл бұрын
My ranking matched Fed ‘s assessment on every brand. I was was shocked but our assessment were basically exactly the same. Great content and format on this one.
@langstondah52199 ай бұрын
Nomos above a Vacheron? That means you don't know watches either!!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 FBA/B1
@EricMiller Жыл бұрын
Very good overview I like the breadth of brands covered. I don't agree with all your rankings but you have great color on them! Thanks!!
@theaussiewhinger Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Blancpain fan by any means but I'm quite surprised at Federico's comment about it being a brand that was defunct for a hundred years before being resurrected. That's not at all what happened.
@dado380 Жыл бұрын
Basically yes, defunct cash grab- we the first diver story!!
@nintendokings Жыл бұрын
The Fifty Fathoms is truly iconic, but mainly the 50s/60s ones. BP ‘died’ twice, and is now just a shell run by Swatch as a fancy garish brand positioned above Omega…imo.
@bdegrds Жыл бұрын
@@nintendokingsswatch also owns omega and breguet, this doesn't take away from the brands themselves, that thinking is very much internet troll speak. Blancpain is still one of the finest watchmakers in the game, of course over an almost 200 year history it's going to change hands
@bdegrds Жыл бұрын
@@dado380blancpain is more than just first diver
@B27-o2c Жыл бұрын
I’m not really into watches - I don’t think I’d ever spend more than $200 for one. I recently got a Timex Waterbury for Father’s Day. It has classic Roman numerals, quartz, with a top grain leather band. I enjoy it.
@hortehighwind8651 Жыл бұрын
That’s a great watch. Somehow Timex always (over)delivers.
@michaellupu2080 Жыл бұрын
No Grand Seiko or Breguet? What an oversight, considering you "ranked" a brand both never heard about. The whole format of this video is curious, seeing how Raphael is so clueless and all he relates his is general impression based on very little.
@stalkin Жыл бұрын
Also forgot to mention Citizen, Orient, and Jacob & Co
@stalkin Жыл бұрын
oh and of course Casio
@michaellupu2080 Жыл бұрын
@@stalkin well, brands like Casio might not fit the profile of this channel, but Grand Seiko and for sure Bregurt should have been on the list. It doesn't really matter in the great scheme of things, it's just a major, surprising oversight.
@mdo5121 Жыл бұрын
Brequet yes
@d.stiefel869 Жыл бұрын
That’s because Grand Seiko is below an F- so it doesn’t fit on the list.
@AntPDC Жыл бұрын
Christopher Ward deserves a place in this rundown, especially given the presence of "fashion watches" on the list, such as Armani.
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
An amazing oversight since they lit up the watch world with the Bel Canto and The Twelve recently, and especially considering Bremont is on the list. Definitely USA-biased by including Weiss but not CW!
@PhilippVoegtli Жыл бұрын
I have an Oris and I am very satisfied. The customer service is also very good.
@edwardb7811 Жыл бұрын
And Breguet? Rchard Mille? Greubel Forsey? There are so many great brands. I think those brands that have a wide assortment and different price ranges were downgraded in the assignment of letters. The same applies to those brands that started out poorly but have recently improved their horological qualities. It was interesting when the men commented about watches that had similar movements but disparate prices. This video probably provoked endless discussing among watch lovers. I'd be interested in another video in five and ten years to see if rankings change.
@daps121311 ай бұрын
Very enlightening discussion. One of the best I hav seen. Currently on an IWC working my way to a Patek. Need to work harder and smarter 😊
@teenoso4069 Жыл бұрын
Raffael's Chopard comments was a kick in the Allinson nuts
@craft-o-matic399 Жыл бұрын
Allison?
@craft-o-matic399 Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to Mr. Chatterbox Pretentious?
@craft-o-matic399 Жыл бұрын
@@EWaugh1That's what I thought. I'm with Raphael!
@guridhesi Жыл бұрын
My A's would be Vacheron, Patek and Breguet and Lange. B- for Vacheron is actually unfair. I know you arent a fan of Vacheron, which i think is based on a sour personal experience like customer service but Frederico, in my humble opinion you are very critical of Vacheron and i think you should base your opinion on their offerings, history, quality, and innovation. There is no denying the fact that Vacheron has contributed alot, if not the most to swiss watchmaking. They definitely deserve to be a part of the Trinity and are top notch watchmakers. I agree with your comments on AP. Having said that if im talking sports watches, my favourite watch is the Royal Oak chronometer. Not because it is a hype watch, but because i just LOVE the bracelet design. Im not a watch collector by any means, im just a regular guy who enjoys watches. Im neither an expert on movements. Im fortunate enough to enjoy some watches from the trinity and a couple Rolexes so im giving you my two cents based on that. Rolex is also spot on a B+ watchmaker for sure. Where i might give Patek an A- is that I dislike the Nautilus to the point that even if someone gave me one for free, i might not take it. It really bugs me how Patek keeps trying to ride the Genta wave. Thankfully they do have the 5270, 5204, and 5208 which i really really like. For VC, i really like the traditionnelle, and cornes de vache. I also quite like the Overseas and their grand complications are to die for.
@manuel_winde Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that- would have preferred to take out the unranked/pointless ones and added breguet, grand Seiko etc but more or less agreed.
@CZRiverStyx11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for collaborating on this video. I can tell you from experience, the appraisal of Hamilton watches was dead on. I bought the Khaki automatic field watch around 5 years ago and it has been an excellent introduction to mechanical Swiss watches. I have had no issues and CS has been good.
@better_together-w4m Жыл бұрын
What a fun episode. Ironically, Rolex has some of the most reliable and robust pieces on your list.
@miromarghany Жыл бұрын
Great episode and it's nice to see two of my favorite youtubers in the same video. Thanks, gentlemen.
@d.morris4551 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I wonder why Movato as left out of the rankings? I'm a fan of Omega, Bell&Ross, Rolex and Breitling but I find myself wearing my Seiko daily, the others stay in the safe mostly unless I'm going out or there's an occasion to wear one of them.
@pedrogt3 Жыл бұрын
Which seiko do you have?
@d.morris4551 Жыл бұрын
@@pedrogt3 Prospex PADI Dive Watch
@rmohan1372 ай бұрын
Excellent video ..very useful insights and arriculation ...love the knowledge and analytics in the video by both gentlemen
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
This was very confused. It started out as ranking bands purely on the quality of their watches, then as it went on it added in customer service and value for money. Really this tier list is burning dumpster fire of inconsistency.
@MichielJ71 Жыл бұрын
I have a great Bulova of 5 years old. Recently, when the date complication didn't work, I got a new quartz movement for free, so a fantastic service! It's high accuracy quartz, what not a lot of watches and brands have. They have a new models which are quite nice as well, like the 96K112. So, why Bulova is given an F+ that quickly... quite absurd.
@springinfialta106 Жыл бұрын
Bulova has done a lot recently. They have much more classically beautiful watches than anything else at their price point. The precisionist models, especially their moonwatch, is very good and innovative.
@Youtubeuser1aa Жыл бұрын
Have you seen how hideous the precisionist watches are?
@springinfialta106 Жыл бұрын
@@KZbinuser1aa I have the precisionist Moonwatch. It's beautiful. Eye of the beholder I guess. The Paul Newman Daytona is hideous to me.
@Youtubeuser1aa Жыл бұрын
@@springinfialta106 lol ok
@DainSmart-vm7pc9 ай бұрын
I had my eye on two watches a rotary & bulova both mechanical movements I wish I chose the bulova the rotary is ok but boring the bulova look's more stylish .
@MrChippinator Жыл бұрын
This is honestly the most informative watch rankings yet. Fed knows his stuff.
@tongotongo3143 Жыл бұрын
Actually if you take his opinion for granted it’s quite misleading and takes you nowhere.
@bryansoto5186 Жыл бұрын
Watch Nico
@auxiliary4023 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@BeckVMH Жыл бұрын
I’m always skeptical when I see these titles, but generally agreed with the grades given. Seemed fair, impartial and reasonable as can be accomplished. Well done.
@Greggory1987 Жыл бұрын
Classic style--The Cartier Tank for the win!
@ffa5153 Жыл бұрын
Federico's extensive experience in the industry is truly remarkable. As a dealer himself, he has managed to maintain a high level of credibility and neutrality, which is commendable. However, while the ranking exercise in this video is entertaining it is both over-simplistic and unfairly stigmatizing to certain brands. Moreover, I would point at the use of silicon escapement by Patek Philippe as being arguably polarizing amongst collectors and a reason for a drop in brand’s ranking.
@Blackeye69793 Жыл бұрын
Raffael is pronouncing all names in french 😀 making him an ultimate hidden peasant.
@gallicwarrior6548 Жыл бұрын
he pronounces them the correct way...
@Blackeye69793 Жыл бұрын
Of course he doesnt
@mohv_076 ай бұрын
Gosh someone talked about it!! He is all wrong in pronouncing
@ondraklusacek39736 ай бұрын
With all due respect, ranking Vacheron as C+ is completely insane
@maciekpysz Жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see brands like Frederique Constant on the list or Baltic but instead some fashion brands such as Gucci or Armani..😮
@backpackerx Жыл бұрын
Biggest miss here was Sinn.
@wallpaper000 Жыл бұрын
they had to imo, its the GG channel afterall, not all of their viewers are watch enthusiasts. Some ppl think Armani is one of Rolex's competitors
@macmac6479 Жыл бұрын
C+@@backpackerx
@FredericBusquier7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Federico, for those honest and accurate opinions
@adamcohen2632 Жыл бұрын
Quality is where its at. Luxury is not a synonym for quality. Watch snobbery is a plague. Mr. Iossa does a good job avoiding the pitfalls of other watch snobs. I expected not to like this video and was pleasantly surprised. He is obviously enormously well informed with great expertise with the subject matter. Giving grades is so subjective when it comes to watches though.. Wear a watch you like as long as it is properly sized for your individual wrist and appropriate for your outfit and the occasion. Like my clothing, I find vintage watches so much more appealing than new ones.
@Nomosglashuette_official11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feature!
@alunjones2550 Жыл бұрын
Federico has a great depth of knowledge that covers brands from both the customer but also the industry aspect.
@douglasdietz7503 Жыл бұрын
What about Movado? I know they are a fashion brand, but how do they rate and why? Seems a lot of people are talking about watches but Movado is conspicuously absent from the lists. Why is that?
@beerkegaard Жыл бұрын
F minus
@douglasdietz7503 Жыл бұрын
Sure. Why? Just curious.
@ToryonDavis Жыл бұрын
Nice placement of these watches I agree. But what happened to Grand Seiko?
@stevenpetersmusic Жыл бұрын
Guys… what about Fortis. The most underrated Watch brand of all time. They invented the first automatic watch, they’ve spent more time in the space than all other watch brands combined, they invented the first automatic alarm watch… the list goes on.
@bdegrds Жыл бұрын
Blancpain invented the automatic watch
@stevenpetersmusic Жыл бұрын
@@bdegrds Self Winding automatic watch - John Harwood and Fortis. Feel free to research yourself.
@jean-michelwins28588 ай бұрын
Didn't you forget Grand Seiko? It is not the same as Seiko.
@Misano-Red Жыл бұрын
Please; What brand of spectacles is Federico wearing?
@TheDarivan Жыл бұрын
Where is Breguet?
@marcgoulding52309 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your well-reasoned thoughts, Federico.
@evanhall6045 Жыл бұрын
I love that Rafael pronounced a lot of the names, but sounded like they were correct and Federico tried his best and couldn’t come as close but I love this type of video. I hope you guys keep this up. Love you both.
@scottt.4596 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Although, I wish you would have more clearly defined the criteria for the ranking. Was the ranking based on overall quality, prestige, brand recognition, accuracy, finishing, in-house movements/ complications or all of the above? You rated Omega a B because of the brands ‘value’. Continuity is important when ranking products. Also, since this ranking is subjective, I feel the list should be made by one person, not created using the opinions of two people. Looking good Federico! You fit right in on the GG set! 👍🏻🥃 PS, this is obviously not the “Official” ranking list because Brittney Pearce, aka, The Watch Gringa, creates the “Official” list.
@TheRahewitt Жыл бұрын
Sorry. Love the channel but NO Casio NO Richard Mille And several others… Needs to be modernised how on EARTH did vincero come into this … but not CASIO/RM?
@DocCohiba Жыл бұрын
First comment - resellers like Frederico used to talk up Rolex as an A. Now that Rolex is cutting into their resale business they’re negative. Please consider that as you view these recent vids which include used watch salesmen.
@jonclassical2024 Жыл бұрын
Total watch nerd here....loved this one Raphael, I think Federico is pretty spot on with his comments and rankings......maybe you could do another with nothing but new, small and start-up brands....so many good and new players! (PS- love your jacket, shirt, tie and pocket square you are wearing....not so much the blue slacks, but you are so much more fashion forward than I ...)
@gildergreen9995 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The blue pants just looks like a weird contrast for constrast's sake to me, and speaking more objectively, it also leaves the colour tone of the outfit. (Talking about unnecessary contrasts.... 👀 Looking at Federico's buttonholes.... 👀)
@SaiBhajansEU Жыл бұрын
I love the channel. Great insight into watches. I would have loved to see Richard Mille, Greubel Forsey, Glashutte Original, Grand Seiko and Carl F. Bucherer. May be Federico can make another video on top 50 Brands.
@truthoverfacts9254 Жыл бұрын
Also, Breguet.
@stooge5172 Жыл бұрын
Is vincero really that bad? Because I own one and I love it. Well, what's the best watch brand at an affordable price?
@stephenmealing6366 Жыл бұрын
Yeah sadly the make very poor quality watches that are marked up through the roof. There are a lot of informative videos about them online.
@needfoolthings Жыл бұрын
Of course you do.
@EnycmaPie Жыл бұрын
Its not worth what they are selling for. It's same as Daniel Wellington. Made in China watches, quality of sub $20 watches and just using marketing and social media sponsorship to get people to buy it at a inflated price of several hundreds. For this price point, a lot of watch enthusiast swear by 'ORIENT Bambino'. Japan made, Price about $100 - $200 range, much better quality and is worthy of the price point.
@JohnnyLoniyaАй бұрын
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on AMZWATCH 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
@heldaneurbanus5135 Жыл бұрын
no Sinn? Gucci and Armani are on the list... but not Sinn (an actual watchmaker) !? Highly underappreciated brand. As is Ball.
@markgallistel9456 Жыл бұрын
So, where does one obtain a download of these graphs with rankings of the watches from?
@j1d7s Жыл бұрын
This was the most fun watch-related tier list discussion I have ever watched, thank you!!
@mikewinston8709 Жыл бұрын
Fed is completely first class……honesty and integrity.
@DuceDaniil Жыл бұрын
Where is “Breguet”?
@studyofhistory Жыл бұрын
Probably in your carriage, Napoleon.
@mdo5121 Жыл бұрын
for sure
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
Watching Federico a number of times in his multiple incarnations on KZbin(Urban Gentry, Watchbox, Delray), I have never been impressed with his knowledge of watches. This video doesn’t change anything.
@harmoniaartificiosa Жыл бұрын
Not that anyone cares, but I have to insert my two absolute favorite brands here anyway, which are Grand Seiko and Casio (G-Shock more specifically). Yay, go Japan!
@d.stiefel869 Жыл бұрын
Shitters 😂
@gordoncaldwell55979 ай бұрын
I know very little about watches but would like to know more. This was very helpful and ,also, fun!
@Merseyrock Жыл бұрын
Other brands he didn't mention (but would be interesting to hear his thoughts on...) Glashütte, Swatch, Direnzo.
@john-tomlinson Жыл бұрын
Timex, Casio, Citizen, Orient. Instead they had Vincero and Gucci???!!!
@alanbehr4233 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I started my luxury watch collection with a Lange 1 I purchased at the Wempe boutique here in New York City. And that concluded my luxury watch collecting because I have never found any other timepiece as enjoyable to wear, either during the work week or for social occasions. I had earlier toured the Lange factory, and there is an admitted sentimental attachment because my mother was born Leipzig, not far from the Lange workrooms. But the watch speaks for itself: there is nothing more satisfying than getting it right first time.
@freshpressedify Жыл бұрын
I think I would prefer these longer videos without background music
@nilufa2901 Жыл бұрын
How is it possible he forgot Breguet? 😮
@billandrews Жыл бұрын
Bulova is a terrific brand. The watches work, and they make many variations from dress to dirt watches. Best of all, they don't break your bank. It is the best watch brand for anyone who wants more than Casio and Timex, but can't afford Longines. Most models are quarts but they make mechanical too.
@eddunn3021 Жыл бұрын
I disagree - Bulova watches have literally been thrown in the trash by me and other watch collectors - very bad internals
@esrynshudder4216 Жыл бұрын
I think he definitely underrated them, some of the stuff they've been doing recently are actually nice. Cool retro designs and also the precisionist line is incredibly innovative.
@albundy3929 Жыл бұрын
yup. bulova is not relevant. fugly. but have a quirky fun accutron.@@eddunn3021
@douglasmichel1000 Жыл бұрын
The best watch video I have ever seen !!!!!! Encore !!!!!!! I wish Federico would have rated my loved Alpina a bit higher but who am I to argue about watches with The Master ??????? At least I discovered that I have something on par with Tutor at 25% of the price. Hey Mr. Fed please wear a necktie the next time you visit Gentleman's Gazette. A fine Gentleman always looks his very best with this classic look and you are a fine gentleman.
@venicec3310 Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt mind a rundown of more value brands
@dangaines405 Жыл бұрын
You two rock! Thanks for the great content and entertainment!
@masoodrazaq Жыл бұрын
This is right on the money. Needs a round 2 with more brands, especially more high end / independents. Federico knows what he is talking about for sure, and is very fair minded.
@kerryjgee9 ай бұрын
Great entertainment here, thanks so much! . I think Feds ranking system is a refreshing change from the prestige only rankings. Theres a lot in customer service, resale and value per dollar.
@michaeladams9744 Жыл бұрын
Casio, Breguet, Richard Mille: are we a joke to you?
@jec1ny Жыл бұрын
Casio gets an A+ from me as a retail watch brand., not luxury. That said, if you are grading on value for money, I can't think of a better brand off the top of my head. They are incredibly low priced for what you get.
@michaeladams9744 Жыл бұрын
@evelynwaugh7919 , regardless of what you think of these watches... leaving them out but talking about Gucci and Vincero is really weird. Breguet invented a Tourbillon for crying out loud... come on now.
@markvogelfaenger9801 Жыл бұрын
Pundits like to bash Rolex because of supposedly pedestrian movements. They are the most rugged watches except for Casio. Moreover absolutely accurate and durable because they are WORK WATCHES. Now obsolete, to criticize them is like to dismiss a jeep wrangle because of poor road holding on tarmac. The only other surviving military watch is omega, but their mechanism is not rugged anymore
@WatchmakerErik Жыл бұрын
If Blancpain went out of business for over 100 years and then was reincorporated the 1980s how did they make the 50 fathoms in 1953? 🤔
@deepsleeprelaxtravel4909 Жыл бұрын
He didn't know Jack about bp
@zxylo7863 ай бұрын
Tag Heuer Monaco to me is the best mixture of classy and casual there can be with a modern watch. I love my Monacos.
@Texmotodad Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honesty. Need more of this.
@gtcih10 ай бұрын
Grand Seiko should have been mentioned. Most of those brands I have never heard of. But I think everyone into watches knows Grand Seiko. Although it is not part of my collection, I give it an A.
@eurocraftccr Жыл бұрын
I would as always ask about Alpina and Fortis Well, Gentlemen, you can already start planing for part two and inform us more about garbage like Gucci, Armani and Diesel as well please!
@thierry1491 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking about buying a Panerai 40mm Luminor. You mentioned about the movement of not being that good. Is it poor quality on the long-term? Poor precision? Or just very simple?