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MockRock

MockRock

Күн бұрын

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@MrMockRock
@MrMockRock 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching everyone, and a huge thanks to all the guests that joined me over what ended up being a half-year project haha. I've included timestamps for everyone below as well as links to their work, please show them some love! Leon Massey - 00:10:21 www.youtube.com/@LeonMassey PJiggles - 00:17:45 www.youtube.com/@PJiggles WhyDo - 00:29:24 www.youtube.com/@WhyDo Honest Content - 00:32:41 www.youtube.com/@ZachHonest Big Yellow - 00:45:28 www.youtube.com/@BigYellowSilly Larry Lurr - 00:47:49 www.youtube.com/@LarryLurr AaronFGC - 00:52:37 www.twitch.tv/aaron_fgc PKBeats - 01:05:55 www.youtube.com/@Casual_PKBeats Vernias - 01:16:23 www.youtube.com/@Vernias MrDanish Buttercookie - 01:20:04 www.youtube.com/@MrDanishbuttercookie Aaronitmar - 01:32:25 www.youtube.com/@Aaronitmar Sillintor - 01:39:49 www.youtube.com/@Sillintor Heeew - 01:49:46 www.youtube.com/@Heeew EE - 01:56:46 www.youtube.com/@EEvisu Odyssey Central - 02:04:28 www.youtube.com/@Odyssey_Central Vars - 02:05:30 www.youtube.com/@VarsIII TierZoo - 02:17:05 www.youtube.com/@TierZoo Dabuz - 02:24:46 www.youtube.com/@DabuzSSB Introspecktive - 02:31:36 www.youtube.com/@IntroSpecktive Delzethin - 02:37:01 www.youtube.com/@Delzethin AndYetNoBananas - 02:38:12 www.youtube.com/@andyetnobananas FibreOpticBroadBean - 02:40:08 www.youtube.com/@Fobb Design Doc - 02:48:04 www.youtube.com/@DesignDoc AceStarThe3rd - 02:57:26 www.youtube.com/@AceStarThe3rd GhoulRunnings - 04:24:43 www.twitch.tv/gh0ulrunnings
@arandomname3575
@arandomname3575 5 ай бұрын
Cheese
@theloyalbandito
@theloyalbandito 5 ай бұрын
Love the Big Yellow inclusion
@HokutoShinkento
@HokutoShinkento 4 ай бұрын
You cIowned on calling "bulli" over people pointing you had a cringey argument for necrozma. It doesnt look any more yugioh than arceus or giratina, so not looking like a pokemon isnt even some reasoning you "fought", thats "muh nostalgia" to play a bigger role it looks as much as a pokemon as kyogre does while looking much better and being one of the most popular forms in the series by far for a reason.
@perturbo4253
@perturbo4253 6 ай бұрын
The Korean Mockrock fanbase will not accept this Pachirisu slander from you. That's right, all 1 (one) of us (me)
@Baby_999
@Baby_999 5 ай бұрын
Man’s man’s before’s man’s made’s video’s
@funtimefredboy2350
@funtimefredboy2350 5 ай бұрын
And the pawmot slander, yea sure it aen't the most creative pikaclone, but it still is a functionable design
@swaddlesthegreat3854
@swaddlesthegreat3854 5 ай бұрын
Fear not 친구, I’m here to and shall support your endeavors
@z.r.r4593
@z.r.r4593 5 ай бұрын
@@Baby_999nah patreon gets it early
@mltprngkim391
@mltprngkim391 5 ай бұрын
같이 모여서 Mockrock를 보여줍시다 여러분!
@roccoc5965
@roccoc5965 5 ай бұрын
I’m now convinced that ranking Pokémon is more heated than politics. I can’t even explain why this video got my blood boiling with every conflicting opinion from mine, and I’m not one to argue in the comments. It was a good list but GODDAMN I feel more conflicted than I think I ever have lmaoooo
@_Gemkas_
@_Gemkas_ 5 ай бұрын
Damn bro, no one's ever spit harder facts before ‼️‼️🔥 I feel the same way dawg 😂
@Glory2Snowstar
@Glory2Snowstar 5 ай бұрын
I think this SINGLE video carries more data than original military computers.
@mothmyszalgo
@mothmyszalgo 5 ай бұрын
I didn't notice the length until you said something wtfff
@maïasmusique
@maïasmusique 5 ай бұрын
2:06:18 "For its neutral special, I want to give it a physical attack." _procedes to name one of only like four fighting special attacks_
@WhyYouWahYoo
@WhyYouWahYoo 5 ай бұрын
The amount of terror in GhoulRunnings’ voice when she realized she gave a self healing heavy a Spindash. Miltank being an obnoxious self healing campy heavy sounds just about perfect for her though lol
@itsturniptime3699
@itsturniptime3699 5 ай бұрын
To reiterate, Golurk is literally Potemkin and the Iron Giant in one character
@hiddenpowerbug
@hiddenpowerbug 5 ай бұрын
time to invest
@asierx7047
@asierx7047 5 ай бұрын
Some elements from YOMI Hustle's Robot like the flight
@ACUAZONE
@ACUAZONE 5 ай бұрын
"quick, switch to Axl!"
@paperclipps551
@paperclipps551 5 ай бұрын
I was thouroughly dissapointed after waiting several hours for the Dhelmise segment only to be met with "what do you want from me here" because there is so much potential for a super slow heavyweight with a ranged anchor that hits like a semitruck
@CurlyButYoutube
@CurlyButYoutube 5 ай бұрын
I'D LOVE FOR IT TO BE LOOKED AT MORE Dhelmise is so cool and could be SO silly
@raph3699
@raph3699 5 ай бұрын
If it’s because a weapon in and out of itself can’t be a fighter, Dhelmise could be paired with any more humanoid pokemon as a duo like duck hunt or banjo & kazooie
@gamerguytj3044
@gamerguytj3044 19 күн бұрын
@@raph3699Aegislash?
@thatoneguyyt2997
@thatoneguyyt2997 5 ай бұрын
Let’s go another multi hour video to have in the background when I’m doing literally anything. NICE
@MrMockRock
@MrMockRock 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that's pretty much what I expect people to do with it despite spending dozens of hours scripting efficient ways to capture the visuals lmao
@vaerix0
@vaerix0 5 ай бұрын
There are some videos where I feel I *can* do that, like the smash is broken compilation, but here I've gotta tune in as best I can because there are some pokemon I am absolutely flabbergasted that aren't in the game as playable fighters
@seansean792
@seansean792 5 ай бұрын
​@@MrMockRockfuck now I feel bad, I'll have my phone face up next to me at the very least 👍
@Moss_Dude
@Moss_Dude 5 ай бұрын
@@MrMockRock I mean, I've watched some of your longer stuff before like that botw retrospective, but dude there's a limit to how much people can keep up with XD
@1mrcow143
@1mrcow143 5 ай бұрын
@@MrMockRockkeep doing what you are doing! People have the attention span of a walnut due to short form content nowadays lol.
@bulb9970
@bulb9970 5 ай бұрын
I love how Coney-esque these tiers are named
@Ami-is-Blsd
@Ami-is-Blsd 5 ай бұрын
Fellas
@El_Mince
@El_Mince 5 ай бұрын
M O R E T I E R S
@s0mniosidae
@s0mniosidae 5 ай бұрын
SkeletonPls
@castform7
@castform7 5 ай бұрын
​@@El_Mince💀🕺
@yosoyflips
@yosoyflips 5 ай бұрын
Thumbs up for Odyssey Central not only working Marowak in as a pint-sized sword fighter but for also comparing it to Dry Bones just so he can finally get Dry Bones in Smash.
@jsablixer6665
@jsablixer6665 5 ай бұрын
Nice to see MockRock exploring short-form content
@LowReedExpert1
@LowReedExpert1 5 ай бұрын
27:35 I can see the final smash now, A corviknight swoops in as the hitbox, if it connects, the bird flies high in the cutscene and Tinkaton's eyes glisten as it launches a huge boulder flying to take down both it's mortal enemy and it's opponent
@Blanks8
@Blanks8 3 ай бұрын
And then as both the opponent and corviknight lie on the ground tinkaton goes in for a finishing gigaton hammer on corv which launches everyone else from the shock wave?
@LowReedExpert1
@LowReedExpert1 3 ай бұрын
@@Blanks8 Y'know, that could acrually really work well
@B86ms
@B86ms 2 ай бұрын
CINEMA
@MaidenOfAir
@MaidenOfAir 5 ай бұрын
Something that makes me happy - since you originally released part one and talked about how dirty the games have done Zamazenta, he's actually gotten like REALLY good.
@forrest3491
@forrest3491 5 ай бұрын
Mock, the fact that you didn’t just make this a podcast episode, and actually animated this whole thing, is legendary. I’m sick at the moment and this is better than any movie I could’ve chose. Thank you!
@luminary6818
@luminary6818 5 ай бұрын
What I’ve picked up from this video is that self-buffs are something you can seamlessly add into Smash (Lucario Aura, Wii Fit Breathing, Incineroar Revenge, Hero boosts, Arsene) while debuffs on the opponent are a little too “Multiversus-y”
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 5 ай бұрын
14:41 That’s literally exactly what flare blitz does tho. You could give it the ability to cross up for some diversity though.
@azureblue99
@azureblue99 5 ай бұрын
This is probably the single pokemon video on youtube that contains the most amount of personal bias. And you know what, I respect you for that, good stuff.
@zyq9388
@zyq9388 5 ай бұрын
I genuinely think Sharpedo could work, solely cuz of he could carry/grab stuff fin his mouth, use his fins/head for various attacks, and has plenty of special ideas through moves like waterfall or aqua jet. “Oh but it’s floating!” True, but it makes sense since Sharpedo canonically propels itself by expelling water out of its back like a jet, so it floating around wouldn’t be weird, and it could still be hit by a lower attacks since its lower fin could be hit by said lower attack! It even has a mega evolution for a final smash, fish body plan be damned
@insomniacnerd5592
@insomniacnerd5592 5 ай бұрын
I need a Pokémon platform fighter with its own team-based mechanics.
@woodman690
@woodman690 5 ай бұрын
35:53 Honestly, I don’t really understand this take at all, given some of the most popular requests since Brawl and especially during Ultimate’s DLC run have been for the likes of Geno and Paper Mario - characters who also hail from offshoot strategy-based spin-off series of a Nintendo mainstay much like Grovyle would from PMD. Given the fan demand for those characters, and the fact that Pokémon is objectively a bigger franchise than Mario, I don’t see why Pokémon can’t get a spin-off rep especially given how beloved PMD is, even speaking as someone who’s hardly touched it.
@castform7
@castform7 5 ай бұрын
I think he just looks at it from a perspective of "the mainline games are *all* that's really taken from Pokemon". Like, most of what is in Smash and what will likely ever be in Smash are the Pokemon that take from the main series games. We can't even get humans past PT. This feels like it's just looking at the Pokemon in the lense of how they appear in the main series and I feel it could be kind of weird to give one Pokemon some special spinoff treatment just because it was a good character.
@thewisthersgames
@thewisthersgames 5 ай бұрын
​@@castform7Well, what would humans even do in Smash, like for spirit battle all would be "The opponent prefers to avoid battle" while you have to defeat an ally. It's not like thropies were they could put it as they didn't had to thought about how would they fight, and if you wanted to put a playable human you would be doing Pokémon Trainer again which is one of the most time consuming characters
@llmkursk8254
@llmkursk8254 4 ай бұрын
Even then, I think the better part of the argument is, “This is probably *the* middle evolution that everyone cares about.” MockRock really put forth that argument on one of the two starters that you could make an exception for. If there was any sort of PMD representation in Smash, I’d be happy enough with its music getting added, remix or not. Dialga’s Fight to the Finish is such a hype banger, and is one of the sorest missed opportunities for music in the series.
@DarKn1ght.
@DarKn1ght. 2 ай бұрын
At least he agrees that dusknoir is a cool option and ranked it at A before doing putting it in S
@idavid8391
@idavid8391 5 ай бұрын
Using this video as research to find out what all 1025 Pokemon even are, and then to finally pick the ones I like the most and choose a favorite. Also, these features are AWESOME--especially happy to see Leon Massey, Odyssey Central, and Delzethin.
@ByteBits
@ByteBits 5 ай бұрын
“Just one more video before bed”
@larrydupp3988
@larrydupp3988 5 ай бұрын
I do still stand by the fact that my boy Slaking would be a unique fighrer in smash, just if its the fact that he can utilize a lot of the major weaknesses that Heavyweights already have because how they're balanced (slow, poor recovery, poor combo game) but now with Nintendo paying attention to his stat pool, make him BUSTED. He could have the poor recovery, and some moves be too slow, and generally seem weak, until you see him in action and its like Doctor Mario on steroids. Crazy powerful combo game creating a glass canon that breaks you or gets broken by you
@benross9174
@benross9174 5 ай бұрын
How would the ability work? Do you just lose acess to your moves every ten seconds? Otherwise he would just be reskinned DK
@AwesomeMooseSmile
@AwesomeMooseSmile 5 ай бұрын
​@@benross9174 I would just make him CRACKED for a decent bit and then all of a sudden he gets a lot slower and weaker. Also I think his recovery should be slack off where in the air his nose makes a giant sleep bubble and it's like a top 5 recovery, that'd be hilarious.
@benross9174
@benross9174 5 ай бұрын
@@AwesomeMooseSmile So like a reverse Arsene? That would be kinda cool
@competitively3315
@competitively3315 5 ай бұрын
I’m also in the same boat, but I think that the fact I have slaking as my favorite Pokémon probably warps my judgement too much compared to other choices.
@CinnaSwirls
@CinnaSwirls 5 ай бұрын
I feel like simply removing Pawmo from existence would bump up the popularity of Pawmi and Pawmot a decent amount. Pawmi to Pawmot is more of a substantial change. Pawmi to Pawmo though, it just stands up. And then Pawmo evolves and it just gets some new fringe fuzz and slightly different facial proportions that most people don't even notice. Pawmot would be less hated as a single stage, I don't know what they thought they were cooking, but it was not in the oven for the correct amount of time at all.
@curtdog647
@curtdog647 5 ай бұрын
Thank God, I was just about to get on a six hour plane ride and was worried about not having anything to listen to
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 5 ай бұрын
Did it work?
@klausvonzeit8686
@klausvonzeit8686 5 ай бұрын
Oh good, something quick to watch before dinner
@TotalyNotTony
@TotalyNotTony 5 ай бұрын
The only thing that I've taken away from this video is that you need to play Gen 5
@pumpkinwarrior7138
@pumpkinwarrior7138 4 ай бұрын
He needs to so he feels more qualified!
@evanmarcus5975
@evanmarcus5975 5 ай бұрын
The amount of editing work and specific footage you had to capture for this is nuts. Kudos on this achievement, man.
@El_Mince
@El_Mince 5 ай бұрын
why yes i WILL watch the entire thing again
@Sylvieboy72
@Sylvieboy72 5 ай бұрын
I'm gonna Call it and say Meowscarada will be the next fighter, its a very popular Pokemon especially in japan and when it comes to Fully evolved starters, Grass is the lone one missing! But just for fun, i'm also gonna say Cinderace joins also because it's moveset could be perfect for the next smash also, but most of all, Gen 8 music is absent in smash bros where every other generation got represented.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 5 ай бұрын
I also think Ogerpon has a high chance
@angry998
@angry998 5 ай бұрын
so garbage
@potatojuiceultra
@potatojuiceultra 2 ай бұрын
Meowscarada would work so well if we didn't already have the only other cat starter already in smash. Like it still isn't that bad (pichu exists), but there are so many pokemon that it feels like sort of a waste. That being said, a gen 9 pokemon trainer with Fuecoco, Quaquaval, and Meowscarada would be perfect! It would feel a lot less weird and character switching is really underutilized in smash imo.
@Articfoxgamez
@Articfoxgamez 26 күн бұрын
I feel like theres a non zero possibility that the smash 6 dev cycle starts at a time where they are more interested in doing a gen 10 rep instead.
@castform7
@castform7 5 ай бұрын
Gotta say I really, *really* liked this series. I've basically said what I'm going to say in part 1 but I feel like Pokemon is just one of those series that I feel like works so well for Smash because of how diverse and varied almost every single one of these creatures is. I used to think all the time about how some Pokemon could fit in the game and this 2 parter was kind of a mini revitalization of that with all of the cool new ideas that came from the Ss, As and even some B tiers. It made me want to see more Pokemon in Smash even though it's the most populous franchise represented not only through fighters but also the Pokeballs. A lot of these guys just have a lot of potential and moveset coolness will probably always trump who exactly gets in most of the time.
@TheWrathAbove
@TheWrathAbove 5 ай бұрын
It does highlight how cool a Pokemon themed Platform fighter would be, especially since there would be a mix of expected picks and some cool ideas.
@liquidmiilk7764
@liquidmiilk7764 3 ай бұрын
3:54:33 "A more spoon based move set." 😂
@temmssmdisnas
@temmssmdisnas 5 ай бұрын
I would argue Lurantis could go higher, it's a surprisingly tanky grass type that gets access to Superpower and Leaf Storm. Make it kinda slow, but with the contrary rage and access to Superpower for a heavy/super armor special.
@smollmoth6376
@smollmoth6376 5 ай бұрын
I still think pheramosa is still a huge snub, their proportions are similar to zero suit Samus and she could be like a more agile buzzwole
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 4 күн бұрын
I've left a couple critical comments so let me say that I LOVE that you made this video. 5 hours of content on this topic is such a treat. With that said... you're putting the burden on fire types because there are already two fire types in smash, charizard and incineroar. But there are two electric types and two water types, but you don't give them the same scrutiny. It doesn't make sense. Edit: 1:59:49 I stand corrected. You bring that up for tapu koko
@ArchonHimitsu
@ArchonHimitsu 5 ай бұрын
Perfect summer watch! Time to crash into my couch and binge the whole video. Thank you!
@jackdeangelo7377
@jackdeangelo7377 2 ай бұрын
I love the editing and flow of this videos visuals! Fantastic work on such a long project! Zoroark is my favorite Pokemon!
@rygong7829
@rygong7829 5 ай бұрын
Seeing Golurk my favorite Pokémon in S tier is so satisfying thank you
@zachpro5475
@zachpro5475 5 ай бұрын
3:52:42 loppony could work as a sold character in smash with her punching attack she could be sold so not f teir
@e8888
@e8888 Ай бұрын
15:27 I quite like the farfetched as echo fighters because sirfechd has a sheild, which in smash block projectiles, that the farfetchd don't have. This means that sirfetchd could be built more defensive around using meteor assault to get in and out quickly whereas farfetchd could be quicker and more combo focused. I personally like when echo fighters get more different (as youve said a couple of times in videos) and i think this is a good way of getting a difference
@AURAxSTAR
@AURAxSTAR 5 ай бұрын
holy shit, 5+ hours long i respect the dedication 🫡
@lizstar3630
@lizstar3630 5 ай бұрын
I watched two hours to see where you put my favorite Pokemon, didn't see em, so skipped to the end a bit to see out of curiosity, and when I saw Dunsparce and Dudunsparce in "just remove them from Pokemon too" I literally gasped in shock D:
@kwagz3314
@kwagz3314 5 ай бұрын
There are quite a few hot takes in this video
@Aperson-62
@Aperson-62 5 ай бұрын
Rivals of Aether Workshop is literally the Pokemon platfighter. We have Regigigas in there as one of the most well known mods and also stuff like Plusle and Minun, Archen, Jirachi and Emolga.
@moth_farmer
@moth_farmer 5 ай бұрын
Yet no slitherwing lol
@OceanVista76
@OceanVista76 5 ай бұрын
The Dewott slander will not be tolerated
@Xeroxthebeautiful
@Xeroxthebeautiful 5 ай бұрын
I was never super into the Mystery dungeon games but I always just thought Grovyle was a better design than Sceptile. It's the only starter in the entire series who I'll choose to not fully evolve purely because of how much of a downgrade it feels like.
@1mrcow143
@1mrcow143 5 ай бұрын
Umbreon in S Tier makes me so happy since it is my favorite Pokemon! Loved this mini-series btw!
@christopherjobin-official7440
@christopherjobin-official7440 5 ай бұрын
How could you do this to Swoobat. The gen 5 hate is so unnecessary. Like, its the best gen.
@FroyoMNS
@FroyoMNS 5 ай бұрын
I feel like, since he never played the Gen 5 games, he has all of the negativity toward the weaker Unova designs and none of the positivity toward the amazing Unova designs. It’s really frustrating to watch in what is otherwise a great video.
@BJGvideos
@BJGvideos 5 ай бұрын
I greatly enjoy Woobat but I feel Swoobat's design is a bit of a step down.
@christopherjobin-official7440
@christopherjobin-official7440 5 ай бұрын
@@FroyoMNS yeah, I kinda guessed thats what the case was.
@illford
@illford 5 ай бұрын
​@@FroyoMNSas someone who played 5 it's not that hard to watch him hate it, its inevitable that your going to feel weakly for at least one gen. I played 5 and only 5 but xid touch X and y so they're the only ones I like outside of the anime or cool designs.
@illford
@illford 5 ай бұрын
​@@BJGvideoswombat and swoobat are terrible fighting game characters to be fair, it's pet shop but worse and less interesting
@SpencyRockMC
@SpencyRockMC 5 ай бұрын
I literally came here just for Grovyle lol, I'm glad to see that got *partially* addressed.
@justadude450
@justadude450 5 ай бұрын
The beginning made it sound like we already had a pseudo legendary in the game. I doubt we would get any of them.
@cassmoney3160
@cassmoney3160 5 ай бұрын
There’s one way Groudon can subtly affect the weather without it being a total obstruction: since the ability name is Drought we can actually interpret that a bit differently, rather than it summoning the entire sun it could just be a passive gimmick where getting close to Groudon causes the heat it generates to affect u to an extent; maybe with passive damage and then if ur in his zone too long u start burning and his attacks get stronger
@erkkok5036
@erkkok5036 5 ай бұрын
The Necrozma slander is CRAZY.
@E_Fig05
@E_Fig05 5 ай бұрын
I already watched the original two videos, but here I am, watching it again. It helps that they're easy videos to work to.
@BallisticSoul6
@BallisticSoul6 5 ай бұрын
Oh god cinematic universe is combined 😨
@MaidenOfAir
@MaidenOfAir 5 ай бұрын
Alolan meowth is actually super interesting and the awful design is intentional! It’s meant to be an inbreeding thing, like the royals that brought it over from kanto did the same thing that happened to pets in real life
@illford
@illford 5 ай бұрын
Also i think a Marvel/3v3 Tag game would work a lot better for pokemon, it lets you form a team of pokemon and since movement generally is lower you can help to distinguish movement fighters, but also you can make a few more flying and weather pokemon work
@notamastermind341
@notamastermind341 Ай бұрын
MockRock finally getting a Zamazenta w with it being actually better than Zacian competitively when it was allowed in Scarlet and Violet. It was also the most used restricted Pokémon, so even bigger w.
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 5 ай бұрын
0:29 If there were 2 Pokémon trainers I’m maining both lol
@kwagz3314
@kwagz3314 5 ай бұрын
The Gen 5 slander will not be tolerated. You have been warned. . . Jokes aside, this is certainly a titan of a video and I give you props for pulling it off. Excellent work!
@Sequalcreator
@Sequalcreator 5 ай бұрын
24:42 ight. Neutral B: barrage (the signature move of the exeggcute line Forward smash: stacks ontop of eachother and use slam Up smash: uses egg bomb, kamakazing an egg upwards (they survive) Down smash: the exeggutes spin on the ground Jab: uses tackle, ramming into the opponets, Up B: uses power whip, slow but has long range Forward B: uses rollout a max of 6 (i think) times. Each getting stronger the more hits it does Down B: leech seed, will drain opponet max or 10% Down air: doward headbutts, can spike Forward air: dashes into opponet, Nair: uses psychic, to push the opponet back Taunt(up): they stack ontop of eachother Taunt(sides): they rock back and fourth Taunt(down): they fall from a tree and act dizzy before quickly recovering Final smash: they hop ontop of a alolan exeggutor and the alolan exeggutor uses dragon hammer Thats all, if wanted i will animate it and post it (self plug lol, i also suck at animating)
@BuzzPrincess12
@BuzzPrincess12 5 ай бұрын
Honesty having Bulbasaur, Charmeleon, and Blastoise be a semiclone for pokemon trainer would be so cool. Obviously Blue would be the character, and maybe throw in Trace as a costume, and just call him "Rival"
@tjackknife6590
@tjackknife6590 2 ай бұрын
I am imagining Mega Sableye running around while holding its gem above itself like Mario carrying an item in Super Mario Bros. 2
@popplio7891
@popplio7891 5 ай бұрын
You know, if Trevenant can turn its opponents into grass-types, why not give it a move to capitalize on it? Trevenant can learn Will o Wisp to burn opponents, so maybe the more grassy an opponent is, the more damage Will o wisp (and other Fire moves from other fighters) will do. I also actually used to brainstorm how Serperior would work in Smash Ultimate. Being a serpent, it could have little vine attacks, but it could create leaf tornadoes, it’s dash could be a super low slither, letting it speed under projectiles, and it could have three really unique mechanics: 1. Its neutral special is Leaf Tornado. It can have a contrarian-like effect where if a character has stat boost, the leaf tornado can inverse that boost. So a Shulk with the Speed Art or a Ganondorf with the rabbit ear item would have their speed severely reduced. 2. Like a snake wrapping around a branch, its up special could wrap it around a small platform and it could attack, drop, or up special to a nearby platform to pressure or chase the opponent. 3. It’s down special could be Coil. Serperior coils up and could get a high jump, a quick sweep attack, or reduced damage when attacked while coiled. It’s basically a stance mechanic that forces the player to make an evasive, offensive, or defensive maneuver. Its final smash could probably be Leaf Storm, basically a much shorter range version of Pokemon Trainer’s final smash, but with extra damage and width in place of range.
@zaesighs
@zaesighs 5 ай бұрын
1:13:51 I can’t really think of any way for arceus trainer to work on the battlefield with Pokémon other than to have them like a semi ice climbers character like you can start with no Pokémon out for some ultimate survival so-po but you can switch what Pokémon follows you around kinda like ice climbers and now that we have new sort of gimmicks like Steve being able to shield and press b to respawn his crafting table at any time or for inkling to get more ink the Arceus trainer can actually have an actual down special and use shield + tap B to switch or hold B to recall for solo. Though that does mean they can probably be separated making it easier to k.o. the trainer. That does also bring the possibility of getting desynced by Arceus trainer but that would be sick so I wouldn’t mind it
@Tinte648
@Tinte648 5 ай бұрын
I wish it was in Pokedex order. I'd watch a lot more of it if it was. Or if it at least had the generations paired together and didn't jump randomly from Pokemon to Pokemon.
@famrymember
@famrymember 17 күн бұрын
Agreed, feels fishy.
@personalstory5178
@personalstory5178 4 ай бұрын
You took time to not only tier list all the pokemon but also include clips!!! I am definitely like and subscribing and checking out you other videos!!!
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 3 күн бұрын
After watching the full 5 and a half hours, let me first say that this was a great video. My takeaway is that most of my contentions come from the framework of the video. I would've analyzed them in a vacuum instead of within the context of the existing roster of characters in smash. For example I would've given rillaboom an easy S-tier because I wouldn't have taken into account the similarities to donkey kong. Again though, great video.
@vocalcalibration8033
@vocalcalibration8033 5 ай бұрын
Jokes aside Lopunny would be a B at best. Nothing about it is especially inspiring for a moveset. It's also a case where Mega Lopunny kind of just feels like a direct upgrade aesthetically and potential mechanics. With that said, you really gonna' penalize Lopunny for the horny online without even mentioning it with Gardevoir? M'just saying.
@EinSilverRose
@EinSilverRose 2 ай бұрын
Penalizing Lopunny for its appearance is really strange when Meowscarada will 1000% be in the next Smash game due to its overwhelming popularity as well as having a rabid online fanbase.
@Stegallproductions
@Stegallproductions 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the Pelipper is comedy spot! Always wanted him so I’m glad you didn’t write him off.:)
@jaredadkinson
@jaredadkinson 5 ай бұрын
I think a tier that’s just “better as an item/hazard/poke ball summon” would be great for the likes of Wobbuffet, Unown, and others that don’t work well as fighters due to their design but do have solid character elements that could be (and have been) incorporated into hazards and poke balls
@kwagz3314
@kwagz3314 5 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, both Wobbuffet and Unown were Pokéball assists in earlier Smash games, but were removed in later games.
@_Gemkas_
@_Gemkas_ 5 ай бұрын
Finally finished the video, fire man just fire! I think a "pokemon-only platform fighter" would be much better of a video so we can do something about all those flappy birds and splashy fish. Being constricted to the status quo for smash bros is definitely harping the list.
@jackdeangelo7377
@jackdeangelo7377 2 ай бұрын
“If you’re gonna turn one trainer into a fight Cynthia might be the best candidate.” *Lists fighting type gym leaders and Koga*
@BrandonPlaysStuff
@BrandonPlaysStuff 5 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD. A FEATURE LENGTH FILM LONGER THAN THE TYPICAL LENGTH. THIS WILL BE A WHITE NOISE VIDEO. 💙
@reflectiveditto
@reflectiveditto Ай бұрын
Talking about Kubfu/Urshifu, If you want to see that idea, the fangame Pokemon Close Combat (which is a traditional fg with fighting Pokemon) has it. You have Tyrogue thats pretty weak, but depending on which attacks you land (more punches/kicks/balanced), ypu evolve into Hitmonlee/chan/top. You can also stay as Tyrogue for an extra move.
@caimn7227
@caimn7227 5 ай бұрын
1:19:51 Darkri actually does have legs! In Pokken Tournament, he stands on his two legs during his grab in duel phase. He also uses his legs in his Synergy Burst Attack.
@simplynamewill
@simplynamewill 5 ай бұрын
it will be soooo akward to see him walk his long thin leg I prefer see him float it feel way more natural
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 4 күн бұрын
I think you highly underrated seismitoad. There's a lot of potential there and its body shape works. Heavy but with high jumps and relies on sound, water, and ground attacks but also has coverage with its extendable tongue (power whip, poison jab, brick break). I think it's an easy B tier pick.
@djoshawott2850
@djoshawott2850 5 ай бұрын
I'm upset by your Oshawott thoughts.
@DarthGardens
@DarthGardens 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if you have any biases, DJ oshawott? 😅
@drewbernz7188
@drewbernz7188 5 ай бұрын
Funny u dropped this vid im actually working on a charmeleon moveset mod in smash ult
@MaidenOfAir
@MaidenOfAir 5 ай бұрын
The joke about snom - just *look* at it. It’s named *snom*. That’s the entire joke Loppunny- not going to get into it, but trust me when I say it’s a lot more interesting than it seems
@callmeoddityx3737
@callmeoddityx3737 5 ай бұрын
Slaking being my favourite pokemon I really would love but my idea for him is this: most of its moves have 2 forms. one that hits hard and one that combos. and every time you use one of the moves that have this effect you're forced to use the opposite version the next time you use one of those moves again. obviously not all of its moves would have this property, but most will. but ones that I don't think woud, is like his jab or dtilt for comboy moves, and like giga impact or something like that as a hard hitting move. at that point you can use those moves that don't have the effect to switch up which the next move would be
@callmeoddityx3737
@callmeoddityx3737 5 ай бұрын
gen 5 is my favourite generation and all the pokemon from my fave gen going into "take them outta pkmn as well" is hurting my soul
@callmeoddityx3737
@callmeoddityx3737 5 ай бұрын
is this video an excuse to show off all your shinies?
@callmeoddityx3737
@callmeoddityx3737 5 ай бұрын
ECAVALIER YOU DID NOT DESERVE THAT BUTCHERING OF YOUR NAME, MY MAN
@callmeoddityx3737
@callmeoddityx3737 5 ай бұрын
3:17:01 ditto is already in smash. that's why all these characters can fight themselves
@callmeoddityx3737
@callmeoddityx3737 5 ай бұрын
Great Tusk has a really cool design in Pokemon Close Combat. so I think it works pretty well. though to make it work well they made him *really big* I highly recommend looking at that game as a whole though it deserves more eyes on it
@metalmk87
@metalmk87 3 ай бұрын
Cinderace my beloved 1:45:48 i have no shame that i really want to see this Pokemon in smash, but it's just kinda sad that i see most likely that a Pokemon of a recent Gen would have the spot in smash.
@ricardoludwig4787
@ricardoludwig4787 5 ай бұрын
I think that calyrex would work as a very interesting deliberately underpowered character that has some restriction in terms of how he can switch into his intentionally very powerful rider form and gets even more powerful if he successfuly closes the deal with it
@misk-ivus2990
@misk-ivus2990 5 ай бұрын
2:24:24 Who's that guy? Also Dudunsparce is peak everybody is just salty.
@MorningPants
@MorningPants 5 ай бұрын
Can’t believe I just watched all of that. Looks like an unfathomable amount of work- max props. One idea I had was for rotom, who doesn’t transform on its own but needs items to possess. Maybe he starts in his base form, but whenever he’s on the field, there is a frequent chance for one of his special items to spawn. They can be thrown by other characters, but will transform Rotom whenever he touches them.
@febreeze4655
@febreeze4655 5 ай бұрын
i aint even gonna lie, until I watched this video I forgot tinkaton even had pre-evolutions. I don't think I've seen them or heard anyone mention them since SV came out
@MikalEdmunds
@MikalEdmunds 2 ай бұрын
Bro yes I’m so glad that others see Samurott’s potential as well - he would work amazingly in Smash
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 4 күн бұрын
Kingambit walks around just fine in the game, he doesn't exclusively sit. Glad you still put him in A tier though.
@jeremyleyland1047
@jeremyleyland1047 5 ай бұрын
Over 5 hours?!? By the gods I don’t have time to watch this in one sitting… but I will make it through this whole thing!
@jeremyleyland1047
@jeremyleyland1047 2 ай бұрын
And I did it! That took a lot on her then I thought it would
@ponyfish157
@ponyfish157 5 ай бұрын
If they wanted to, would a smash game with only pokemon sell? Because i think hell yeah
@superflameking03
@superflameking03 5 ай бұрын
I can see Mimikyu's ability working pretty well In Smash so long as they tweak it a little, but hey, they've done that before they can do it again, right? (looking at you Lucario)
@youguyslikekof9976
@youguyslikekof9976 2 ай бұрын
I have to say I like your idea of Black and White Kyurem being a tag team fighter like the Aegis. Maybe if Ghetsis were added, he could serve as another Pokémon Trainer where he manipulates the fusions the whole time
@Doddleproductions
@Doddleproductions 5 ай бұрын
Personally, if they can put Jigglypuff and Kirby in, I don’t think Vileplume is going to have a stubby limbs problem. Still a great video, (you put good old Regigigas pretty high up), but even if it’s not the most popular or strongest.. Vileplume ain’t that bad in my humble opinion. No I’m not just saying that because it’s my favourite. Ok I am.
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 4 күн бұрын
For EE's heracross pick, I would go with vital throw instead of counter, just cause it's more thematic. the move's description has the user voluntarily letting the hit them, then getting a guaranteed thow afterward, so it still works as a counter but it also lets heracross use its horn.
@orangetheboy
@orangetheboy 5 ай бұрын
11:03 what game is that also finly someone else like zamazenta more then zachian
@MrStarman926
@MrStarman926 5 ай бұрын
Pokemon Showdown. Online browser game for competitive pokemon
@q-miiproductions878
@q-miiproductions878 5 ай бұрын
2:54:47 Slithering Kingambit? 2:56:30 Mega Absol’s wings are fake. It’s just fur. 3:04:21 Not a legendary. 3:28:39 Why did you use the shiny? I know it makes sense for 3:55:02, but not really here. 3:34:48 Lol the brief spaz-out 3:35:33 First time I’ve heard someone mispronounce Girafarig, and not its evolution. 4:23:24 It has two smaller spikes above its ears. 4:49:02 The final row is “upper”? 4:51:16 Mongoose, but I understand the confusion. 4:57:22 Pedipalps are next to the mouth, which Galvantula has. 5:02:11 How is Shaymin in sky forme when it’s night, in which it’s not supposed to work?
@Legoswampert190
@Legoswampert190 5 ай бұрын
I made concepts for regigigas, kyogre, groudon, and ferrothorn a couple years ago.
@albertduggan4695
@albertduggan4695 5 ай бұрын
Pokémon Trainer remix would be best as Charmander, Wartortle, Venusaur. Mawile is a cool idea, its grab should hit behind it. Flying fish is one of the most frustrating thing about Pokémon, no thanks. I have always thought of having Koffing as a floaty faller whose standing pose high profiles low attacks. Speaking of which, writing off all the "flappy wings" is too hasrh, they could just have lots of jumps. it worked for Meta Knight and the Pits. Zamazenta > Zacian, the sord in mouth looks so goofy, a Mega Manectric style unicorn sword would have been much better. I think any Mythical and Legendary Pokémon work better for Smash in Pokéballs.
@Meta-Wah
@Meta-Wah 5 ай бұрын
The flappy wings could have a lot of potential. For example Pidgeot could easily have a charizard style flying run, 3-4 jumps with insane air speed, brave bird as a flare blitz type move, and having wing attacks for the smash attacks, as well as tornado attacks. The tilts could use the talons and beaks and wing slashes. Sure, you could make the argument that Pidgeot would be a bit bland, but crobat? Talonflame? Really?
@algotkristoffersson15
@algotkristoffersson15 3 ай бұрын
41:12 why not. It’s a mechanic in touhou 12.5 scarlet weather rhapsody, which is the most compedetive fighting game in the world.
@ElTaitronAnim
@ElTaitronAnim 5 ай бұрын
GhoulRunnings's thumbnail art is indeed great!
@DragonBoyRW
@DragonBoyRW 5 ай бұрын
MockRock you’re peak for putting Zamazenta on the same level as Zacian you’re so real for that
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