This list has already seen a minor update based further evaluation of the specs: www.icy-veins.com/wow/mythic-dps-tier-list .
@Johncguti2 ай бұрын
Sorry but if you knew anything about .05 you would never put fire mage where you did. So are you just vibing this list out? lol
@peettko2 ай бұрын
@@Johncguti Its placement was changed based on further internal testing/feedback/simming. Fury warrior, Fire Mage and Survival Hunter placements have shifted.
@xxxDaxosxxx2 ай бұрын
@@peettko Hey dude, does this list takes into account recent mage and frost dk nerfs that happened in the 'hotfix'?
@dspursuer2 ай бұрын
will get invited -> will get invited -> shit -> bm -> turboshit
@3dotswow2 ай бұрын
🫂
@Shiva-zn4nz2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@yaboirairai2 ай бұрын
Beast mastery that bad!?
@endocry2 ай бұрын
Aug should be brought down an entire tier solely because all the shitters who want easy io play them and are terrible. I rarely have a good experience with a pug Aug.
@brianfairchild46652 ай бұрын
I'd like to see it get entirely deleted and turned into a tank.
@madhudson12 ай бұрын
Just don't pug with them. In organised high keys when folks are playing around their 2 mins CDs, they're great
@atinypizzaguy2 ай бұрын
Works better with people who you can talk to and drop bombs together
@jarebare002 ай бұрын
When people build tier lists before the patch is released...💀
@slugfest5132 ай бұрын
Tldr; the already meta specs are getting buffed and the mid specs are either getting nothing or nerfed
@IamDreamwalkerMan2 ай бұрын
except poor mage that even buff isnt buff : l
@barcenalbg2 ай бұрын
I dont get why they nerfed fury like that. Playing melee is stressfull enough but now doing less dmg than ranged is stupid. Aoe cap from 8 to 5 means bye bye high keys since pushing high there is always at least a couple big pulls which will bring down your overall. Gotta test Anger managment and see if it can "fix" the problem a bit.
@hugofreitas67992 ай бұрын
You dont raid do you? Anyone asking this dont raid. My guild runned 3 furys on M Brood, ads melted in 5 seconds.
@xlightninghawk63602 ай бұрын
shamans got capped aoe too, deal with it
@shavey23malify2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately fury doesn't have the necessary utility to be viewed as "meta". Similar to s3 dragonflight where I took a break last time there is no sense taking a warrior over another class in higher keys unless our damage output is greater. Kinda feels like current tuning would be fine if we could bring BL/hero for example. Otherwise we just aren't bringing enough to the table.
@srnybreak2 ай бұрын
@@hugofreitas6799 so nerf fury cause they are good for one part of the raid and usseles in boss dmg? :D so maybe buff them single abilities atleast?
@nickolasroper32372 ай бұрын
@@hugofreitas6799ran. It’s “my guild RAN 3 furry wars.” Cheers
@wrayth952 ай бұрын
Thank god I dropped Fury warrior completely after the first round of nerfs and rerolled Frost DK! Best choice I ever made - frost is insanely fun, super OP, and now getting buffed?! WTF lol
@Elliriah2 ай бұрын
We still don't know about that buff tho
@xlightninghawk63602 ай бұрын
that means they will be in the sight for nerfs to the point you are changing main
@estebanslavidastic43822 ай бұрын
Yah I stopped affliction for fdk. Actually having fun, getting invited, and doing damage is nice.
@GodOfWar051002 ай бұрын
Frost is very good for sure, but if you fuck up your Breath rotation you lose a ton of dps, at least it's punishable
@calvinrosario83432 ай бұрын
@@GodOfWar05100 That is why breath is not a thing anymore, and you roll other builds.
@RolandTschiah2 ай бұрын
i like how everyone starts their tier lists with "good" or "fair", when in practice there are like 7 or 8specs that get invited to 10 keys and above. When everyone is "good" and better, the tier list is meaningless
@furyallos2 ай бұрын
Facts..if you're not this or that...gl getting keys done or find some friends to run keys with.
@herbertph88792 ай бұрын
Its funny. No idea why people are coward and do not use "Bad" or "useless" to some classes
@endocry2 ай бұрын
@@furyallosimagine having to resort to making friends in an mmo.
@cat-vv9xb2 ай бұрын
@@herbertph8879 Some snowflakes are offended when they are told they are useless.
@hakamag2 ай бұрын
Just don't think about the label
@Woelock2 ай бұрын
Looking at the patch notes, you can just tell what classes/specs the devs play vs what they don't. Mage vs warlock for example. Where's the warlock love?
@peettko2 ай бұрын
I mean, a lot of top classes got buffed. Like, Arcane got buffed, Frost DK got buffed, Enhance is slapper too. LOL!? Yeah , give lock some lOVE!!
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
You do not want them to play your class you will be bad when they do.
@slugfest5132 ай бұрын
The fact they are nerfing destros aoe for a problem that was solved 2 months ago on beta is infuriating
@MikeyJ2322 ай бұрын
Huh? Warlock is insane in both raid and M+. Have you seen Destro’s AoE? It’s ridiculously easy to play too.
@slugfest5132 ай бұрын
@@MikeyJ232 nice try
@jeffl63942 ай бұрын
BM is certainly uncertain. Unfortunately, on PTR it's full of bugs and we don't know how live changes will be integrated. It's in limbo right now. Could be great or could be horrendously bad.
@joshuabergeron97312 ай бұрын
0:52 “without further do-do” lmao.
@rogerp10262 ай бұрын
For fire mage, Why do you recommend not playing flamestrike build? It seems to be a popular build for fire mages doing the highest keys.
@pavelhostacny70072 ай бұрын
True
@back2luke2 ай бұрын
it gets nerfed and its possible to go oom when you spam FS in 11.0.5
@Caionnech2 ай бұрын
Every singel time I see videos like this I thing to myself "Do they know that Dev Evo has Bombardment that buffs AoE and still manage to buff the dps in the group wile doing decend dps himself?"
@BloodWolfy2 ай бұрын
Why is there an assuption that prot pala got a defensive upgrade in 11.0.5? Nothing but a small quality of life change
@scenejack2 ай бұрын
10 % armor increase
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
@@scenejack For a loss of getting reduced amount of cooldown reduction with the talent being removed. So cooldowns will be less often up for that armor
@brice90132 ай бұрын
@@scenejackthat was compensation for the talent loss of 10%. Loh is the only cd its getting. Mastery still is outdated, people are going to be surprised when youre doing 3% less damage AND nothing changed defensively lol
@joshhurst76482 ай бұрын
Outlaw can maintain theoretical 100% uptime on feint with it off GCD, they got better self-healing when Vanishing which is on Restless Blades as well, and have no reason to hold BtE after exiting Subterfuge window due to reset. Outlaw is going to surprise you, they got significant buffs from these changes and bug fixes.
@m_rod95622 ай бұрын
Did they nerf the carpal tunnel?
@vendorbruh99772 ай бұрын
@@m_rod9562 but that's the best part! it keeps the physically weak from playing the class
@hugofreitas67992 ай бұрын
Hard target capped, all your dmg is tied to your natural cleave.
@m_rod95622 ай бұрын
@@hugofreitas6799 so a-tier for pugs where they never pull more than 5 mobs at a time? 😅
@vendorbruh99772 ай бұрын
@@hugofreitas6799 Enhance is capped at 6 targets and is considered top 3 dps so that argument is weak lil bro
@Lemmiatem782 ай бұрын
You can very clearly tell which specs the devs play or enjoy a lot as those were already the best and most popular and received big, positive changes, while underrepresented and underperforming classes were just left to suffer and rot. Huge swing and a miss by the balance department, such that there is one, which I doubt, and it will likely put a huge damper on their 20th Anniversary patch as this controversy will be remembered far longer than any of the other content they plan to provide.
@Insomniac-13372 ай бұрын
Sad as WW Monk...I give my best and other classes just press 1-2-3 Buttons and do a shitload of dmg without even using braincells...Thanks Blizzard for fk my fav class up.
@PrestoontheToon2 ай бұрын
I think our damage is okay. We don't have the highest peak, but we have consistent damage. In a dungeon, my overall is relatively competitive. I think we just lack utility. We only have supbar utility like mystic touch (only for melee) and leg sweep. Rop is versatile which is dope but i feel like we are missing something. All 3 specs need some help, if we could have a buff like paralysis as aoe enrage dispel, or at the very least reduced cd if dispelling an enrage. Or an aoe detox. Hell even aoe interrupt like whirling ox kick.
@henril8722 ай бұрын
Laughs as arcane mage with "1-2-3 buttons"
@Insomniac-13372 ай бұрын
@@PrestoontheToon Probably going to reroll to Retri or FrostDK or even ASRogue...
@BrokDoidao2 ай бұрын
monk is hella easy to deal AoE bro what are you talking about
@PrestoontheToon2 ай бұрын
@@BrokDoidao I think he just doesn't understand that what we used to excel at is no longer the case. Ww used to be the king of aoe. Nowadays, we aren't the burst aoe that frost and ret are, we aren't the ramp that balance is. We are in a weird middle ground. I think some people just need to realize we bring consistent damage to each pull, making our overall damage pretty good.
@Topazviper12 ай бұрын
Prot pally back baby lets gooo
@Matthew-fn2lp2 ай бұрын
Teah looking forward to it , devine shield will be massive now and lay on handa too. 30 second 100 % armor from loh nice change. A lot of talents will be great. Will see …
@ujai52712 ай бұрын
Prot pally is already back. The damage they bring is insane.
@_shaqz_2 ай бұрын
Not really. Will still feel like paper. They did not address the core problems of the spec
@Telmuun2 ай бұрын
dunno didn't address core problem and new talent rework have so many useless choices again and new last capstones for paladin are useless
@changjunlee99752 ай бұрын
@@Matthew-fn2lpthat thing is already nwrfed in ptr. 30% 8 sec. Trash
@Recreantsmile2 ай бұрын
I think it's time we start to question the competence of the balance team devs.
@bryanking70712 ай бұрын
This your first time playing WoW?
@LoktarOgar694202 ай бұрын
Woah you could hear how furious he was about the changes here 19:39
@UniversalTomato2 ай бұрын
I think you are underestimating the resto Druid buffs a bit. Their spot healing has essentially been restored to what it was like in late DF. Going to be so strong now
@KillExcl2 ай бұрын
excited to acutally play ele this inc patch :3
@RichieKhan2 ай бұрын
I am absolutely pumping as survival.
@gsxrinfused2 ай бұрын
Ww monk did get some changes, roughly 3% single target and 5%+ in aoe.
@dias47422 ай бұрын
2:15 psychic cream 💀
@jonathanyo962 ай бұрын
People really sleep on Brewmaster and Veng DH. I was bored and tanked a 7 Ara on my brew whose 591ilv and timed it. It’s literally all about how you play around your kit with every class.
@smoke78772 ай бұрын
As a frost dk these changes seem pretty good
@istvancseh86882 ай бұрын
Frost DK already doing the best dmg in the game.... sure buff them and nerf Fury 4th time... clearly Blizzard knows what they doing... this is a joke at this point.... BTW we pay for this shit show. :)
@Doggywalker2 ай бұрын
Fuck this game tbh fuck Blizzard and this chart is stupid aswell why tf you Start at good.... evrything in good is basicly trash shadow sux Hard my 620 fall ench shadow Keep gettig outdmg by dk warri hinter or basicly evry one whit 590 gs and n8 ench at all. Feels awesome to farm 30 gs Pointe and pay 200k for ench to get outdmg by evry fresh lvl 80
@vishny11302 ай бұрын
I pay happily as an fdk
@istvancseh86882 ай бұрын
@@vishny1130 i would pay to nerf dk to the ground :)
@bryanking70712 ай бұрын
@@istvancseh8688 and I paid to get Fury nerfed to the ground. You're welcome :)
@istvancseh86882 ай бұрын
@@bryanking7071 yeye always the broken class gets nerfed :) now im on your level
@John-jd7kt2 ай бұрын
Is this always gonna be the case for feral? Almost every season in DF it was bad or underwhelming and now it's still the same in TWW.
@teza63532 ай бұрын
I reckon BM is going to dominate
@leondavies97352 ай бұрын
Love watching tier list vids but hate the fact I can’t get into plus 4 crest keys as they are asking for resto shaman and aug
@whizbang47942 ай бұрын
Only thing I slightly disagree with is BDK, I can straight carry keys with it
@xBartGR2 ай бұрын
I knew that with 11.0.5 paladin would've been a strong class. They know the hype around remastered Judgment set and it would've been stupid to not fix pally.
@Tanooki-sama2 ай бұрын
Bro my ele is doing 2.5k overall dps in keys right now literally unbeatable this shit is getting nerfed for sure and my single target is also unbeatable I do like 1.9m single target
@henril8722 ай бұрын
Fire mage should be d tier, its doimg tank damage after the upcoming patch
@robbe61942 ай бұрын
buffing frostdk they must be smoking crack at the office KEKEK
@StaffanDeluxe2 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna play whatever class and spec I want. I will get invites anyway. 😊😊
@ordnael432 ай бұрын
When I call today, if the BM is still bad, I won't renew my subscription and I'll take a break from this game
@estebanslavidastic43822 ай бұрын
So here is my god comp: Prot warrior Balance Druid Frost dk Resto shaman Augmentation evoker
@stankweezul57152 ай бұрын
I'd agree with this except for the Aug. I've just run so many keys with bad Augs I don't even consider bringing them anymore. In their place I'd probably put Assa Rogue/Ret/ or maybe Destro
@TinyEconomist2 ай бұрын
Havoc has been super op in dragonflight season 3. We still paying the price of this. Brothers in blizzard are you playing a game with us? We don’t want to be super OP and we don’t want to be super garbage! Something in between? Not only the spec is super complicated to play on a high level you making us deal negative damage too? I feel like blizzards intention is to make everyone reroll into meta specs(or ret lol). It is completely funny to see so many specs being completely messed up this season. Not to mention how poorly designed the dungeons currently are with the aoe stun changes and stupid affixes and dispels literally on every pull. M+ is a huge disappointment this season, I know it ll be fixed eventually but right now it’s a big no.
@Adjust912 ай бұрын
Take it down before the rerollers nerf my class 😫😂 (shaman main since tbc)
@boomcat13372 ай бұрын
wait what you putting vengance so low ? its one of the few tanks pushing highest keys
@whizbang47942 ай бұрын
sadly 99% of vdh at anything not pro level just die instantly
@boomcat13372 ай бұрын
@@whizbang4794 oh thats just sad.. im not pro but im also only tried +12 so far. dont think i could survive with a pug grp thoe
@GodOfWar051002 ай бұрын
@@whizbang4794 The biggest mistake vdh players are doing is leaping like retards without mitigation in mob groups and instantly gettin to 30%hp. At least that's how it was until Dragonflight, I don't follow the spec anymore
@Emanx23182 ай бұрын
Love the bipolarity in m+. First people complain about button bloat. Then it get fixed and people literally have to press 1 button, now they complain about that. Make up your minds plebs.
@whizzbangbang2 ай бұрын
ele is touching top tier, and still having every run timed on an 11, still cant find an inv for a 12 to save my life. Yes i know what the reply will be just play your own key. same shit different day in azeroth
@Kortexx6112 ай бұрын
Think having Ele at the top of the 2nd tier is a bit of a cope. No way will unbiased players want an Ele over a Mage, Unholy DK, Aug or Boomkin. I think even Spriest will be more desirable than us if the current state of 11.0.5 goes live.
@endocry2 ай бұрын
Lol
@cy23262 ай бұрын
have you tried to apply as mage in a 12? i get an invite per day if im lucky.
@LinkSmith-zb7rr2 ай бұрын
Ele is cranking on PTR
@saintsnack75812 ай бұрын
Maybe Aug could be more preferrable than ele for premade party with communication through discord, but I think this type of tier lists always based on average level of players in pugs. All Shamans provides very strong party support utilities for season 1 dungeons and CC (aoe poison removal, aoe stuns etc). In addition, ele shaman more reliable dps than mage or unholy dk in pugs, as it is way more easier spec to draw its full dmg. mage or unholy dk they are strong, of course, but only they are good at their class, and when whole party align their progress on dungeon with their big cd skills. it is always not a wise decision to assume that case in pug.
@mochi_pochi_2 ай бұрын
Have you played triple melee comps? They are not fun there's just shit all over melee
@GodOfWar051002 ай бұрын
As a resto sham at least I'm happy everyone stays in healing rain XD
@scrylerx88522 ай бұрын
I was up with you until you said outlaw rogue was down there lol. He is literally getting reworked and getting some massive changes with slice and dice and other abilities making him able to pump more
@aleksaas2 ай бұрын
Man, changes to outlaw are less than 1% dps increase. Its just quality of life changes.
@ItoKun22 ай бұрын
It's funny how wow INFLUENCERS now call absolute garbage unbalanced underwhelming useless piece of shit specs GOOD tier, or OK tier. People listen to them, think "it's ok I'm playing warlock, talking head said it'll be alright" and then they see "declined" at mythic plus lfg. Guys, if you really want to know the current meta just check out raider io and warcraftlogs. Those videos certainly an example of toxic positivity
@Xeanowos2 ай бұрын
Isnt Sub in the trashcan though?
@christopherkrantz60152 ай бұрын
i do appreciate your opinion, but if you are a broadcaster, giving out stuff like this, it should be related to known numbers and not "something i believe". you rate fury on impressive, the class that got target capped in 11.05. aug was never taken due to dmg, its the crowd control and defensive that it provides and will still be top tier. arcane mage is way faster and better than fire, fire is just working on flamestrike build, what has very low prior dmg compared to "real" prior dmg class, so it provides "no" speed etc. numbers even saying the same. you really should study numbers and changes before posting this.
@1995Kasimir2 ай бұрын
maybe they make frost so strong because it never has been really strong
@Reaperr1452 ай бұрын
Exactly
@allstar_2 ай бұрын
whaaaaat? Lmao I was topin dps nearly every single dungeon df s3 Oblit build was really strong at that point or Shadowlands s3 frost dk was really strong too to say it was never strong is just straight up false
@jette242 ай бұрын
that should never matter...shouldnt be a pity spec...all specs should be all so close the player makes the difference
@IShotLazer2 ай бұрын
@@jette24 Most builds are still all pretty close with each other in reality. There are a couple of lower outliers, but the differences between the mid and top and all within 10%. What makes classes broken isn't their damage necessarily. It's more that they have a good damage profile, with burst that lines up with pulls, and also the utility that works well for the season. People forget that the god mode comp of spriest, mage and aug were so strong wasn't due to the damage -- it was due to the fact their they had so many ways of surviving absolutely everything while still pumping. They barely sacrificed damage while having extremely diverse damage profiles and being nigh unkillable with proper utility usage.
@xlightninghawk63602 ай бұрын
@@allstar_ then you played with noobs. frost DK havnt been strong since Wotlk, they have either been mid or below mid
@Repsadge2 ай бұрын
brother turn your mic gain down
@alexanderravn46352 ай бұрын
Think r druid fit better into the s tier comp.🎉
@hubertvonlettow-vorbeck41172 ай бұрын
Problem with Frost dk is your dmg is Tanklevel if your group kills mobgroups to fast (only pre +10) Think the buff is because of this
@disraz_tv2 ай бұрын
Haha true😂
@기-x3j2 ай бұрын
Because frost dk has a slow walking speed
@bukakabarabaka2 ай бұрын
The problem is M+ terrible right now. If you DPS - you cant find group. I stoped playing after in end if week 2 i cant find eny key with ret, 2000 rio and 616 IL. Dungeons punishes with break key for one wipe, fuck it. And its not was always like that, i played 3 and 4 season DF, it wast even close. If blizzard want my money - they must fix M+ for DPS and non S tier specs. And dont tell me to push my key or play with friends, its not a solution to bad design.
@QQmachine19982 ай бұрын
Pushing your own key is a solution though? People that do their key get to choose who to invite, ofc they will get the higher rio players
@ritchy38752 ай бұрын
Why cant you do your own key? Genuinely curious
@alfredballestas45402 ай бұрын
I stopped taking this seriously when he said dps and ret.
@psyhense2 ай бұрын
Apart from deaths being more punishing, what is the bad design you're disliking as DPS?
@GrimhartVN2 ай бұрын
@@ritchy3875 The Problem with "pushing your own key" is that people would leave after one wipe. The key you spent so much time push to that level and got broken within the first pull with toxic pug. It came around to the problem that keys are so difficult and punishing. It would take forever to find tank/heal and imagine that your key just got abandoned after 1 wipe (cant even finish it).
@scenejack2 ай бұрын
Love that people still hesitate to invite me with my 622 Prot Pally because they still think about the old Tier Lists. You can literally see their faces drop when i big pull 4 groups and AoE them down with 5 Mill DPS. And thats before the inc 6% dmg buff lets go!
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
Do you play lightsmith or Templar?
@rstarrkk2 ай бұрын
what level keys?
@scenejack2 ай бұрын
@@rstarrkk 9-10
@scenejack2 ай бұрын
@@havtor007 Lightsmith is the go!
@barcenalbg2 ай бұрын
@@scenejack Prot pally interrupts are also goated. Freedom for the dps to pump. But if u are out of cds it feels bad being outdpsed by the tank :D
@MrCholoPants34152 ай бұрын
These changes are so bad. Prot Pally being improved is like the only thing that was needed that we got.
@alsardar27402 ай бұрын
I don't think this guy is 100% right
@bryanking70712 ай бұрын
No one ever is on these. Unfortunately most people are sheep and need someone to tell them what to do or play. In a video game and IRL.
@MikeyJ2322 ай бұрын
I’m not sure where you’re getting the info on Havoc DH but they are currently one of the strongest specs in m+
@flamebo562 ай бұрын
Yeah until 10s maybe where are you getting your information 😂😂 class is unplayable in anything over a 13
@Silentfeety2 ай бұрын
Rdruid will be at the top, soon will be proved
@Bobcatz0972 ай бұрын
Great video, but you kind of lost me in the begging with Feral Druid. You put it in bottom tier because “it doesn’t have a lot of representation”, but that shouldn’t be a reason to rank a class in the worst tier. Feral actually slaps damage wise in mythic plus, especially higher keys (11+). Yeah it’s hard to play, but that doesn’t make it “bad”.
@LaptopmenaceMTK2 ай бұрын
TLDR same as 11.0.2, GG blizz about 8 pages of nothing burger changes
@Popzugzugz2 ай бұрын
Petko you’re part of the problem. Stop making tier lists. Be the change
@peettko2 ай бұрын
You are also part of the problem. Stop watching tierlists, be the change!
@JeffDays2 ай бұрын
looks like Arms warrior needs yet another nerf
@richouxdamien95942 ай бұрын
Aug Tier S sorry for one only reason , Only spec that buffs the team and has a huge amount of mob control etc.... , mandatory except when another spec does the same^^
@rtchhangte50452 ай бұрын
Not mandatory. Half of the 15s and 14s timed are without aug. Some cases like SoB where it is actually better to bring a 3rd dps rather than Aug
@peterhertel-yf2eb2 ай бұрын
Thats not even close to max keys that will be done@rtchhangte5045
@gala50002 ай бұрын
eh who cares frost hasnt been meta once since mythic plus came out so its probably good that its getting its patch to be strong.
@JohnG-bz6sr2 ай бұрын
what about mages?poor souls their time to shine too i guess...
@Nhouyengah2 ай бұрын
Fire mage will be doing tank damage after the nerf / dmg reduction 😂😂😂 bro didn't inform jimself on actual sims
@ryangardner77092 ай бұрын
Why did you do it in this order? 🤪 wonky
@MrDontakoulis2 ай бұрын
Warlock triple dips spec and nowhere near the top 10 in any metrics available. Funny man XD
@scrylerx88522 ай бұрын
That’s what I am saying. Like is he looking at the same charts as me? Lol
@tytus30482 ай бұрын
Why'd you watch a tierlist video if you already had your mind made up lmfao. He still got your click so I guess he wins
@MrDontakoulis2 ай бұрын
@@tytus3048 i watch them and i comment on them because warlock is in a bad state, and youtubers and content creators which keep overestimating it makes it less likely for Blizzard to help the class. Dunno why i got under your skin but i am sorry if i hurt your feelings or smthng
@Stekcubom2 ай бұрын
aff lock is clearing 14s and 15s, so, maybe it’s a skill issue?
@MrDontakoulis2 ай бұрын
@@Stekcubom all specs can clear a 12 and a 13, if they have good teammates around them and practise, 14s and above right now are 0.01% gamers that have 0.01% gamers around them and they still pick meta specs, which def isnt locks and if they are, its the odd one out. If you wanna make it personal, am at 2.680 rio with mostly 11s done and i barely am able to play for 2 hours to go. That doesnt stop 80% of my other specs outdpsing me solely on class balancing. Warlock legit doesnt have a spec in the top 15 of raiding and the top 10 of m+. Based on statistics, how is it that difficult to understand? Locks are weak.
@pridemizzle15652 ай бұрын
Psychic cream!
@shadowbanned30442 ай бұрын
This tier lists are crazy ngl... I mean you obviously want to make tier lists for average players, not top of the top, since they don't need this kind of information at all. Rshaman and Disc in the hands of average players are NEVER S or A tier lol... especially not Disc.
@dexascan902 ай бұрын
Agree with disc but there is no argument against Rsham being S tier in right now
@shadowbanned30442 ай бұрын
@@dexascan90 Literally every single Rsham I've seen when playing my alts, had mana issue through the entire dungeon. I didn't drink a single time on my rdruid or disc in the entire season. If the tank drags out the pull out of healing rain, shaman heals is basically zero and the 10 sec CD is not changing that.
@Skource12 ай бұрын
The only thing about prot pally I think they need to look into is not damage buffs we don’t need those but they need to fix the damage mitigation so I’m curious to see how this update changes as of now I think they still will feel squishy they gave a flat percent armor buff but that’s not gonna change how they mitigate damage so I guess we will see 😅
@ironsideeve29552 ай бұрын
Enhance being top tier is wild lol
@Shanezz13372 ай бұрын
Fury on impressive is criminal lmao
@srnybreak2 ай бұрын
yeah im main fury and my alt enha with 12ilvl lover can outdps him :D fury is rly bad right now
@Shanezz13372 ай бұрын
@@srnybreak will get even worse when aniversary patch is live
@srnybreak2 ай бұрын
@@Shanezz1337 sadly yes
@theguywhoiscoding99122 ай бұрын
Fire is garbo bruv, you can't put them in the same tier as frost and arcane when they are so far below in sims. Literally every top mage is saying that fire is dead after this patch
@arashmollaeipour2 ай бұрын
in higher key's if u check them some other class like rog or shamy doing more dps than dk so i think buff is correct and btw its first time in a while since dk is good in M+ and playing breath in M+ is harder than most of classes so i think its ok
@TheNeveksla2 ай бұрын
these classes actualy take skill to play, they should be ahead of potato class
@arashmollaeipour2 ай бұрын
@@TheNeveksla so frost dk is potato ? can u play breath ? and i mean rly play it not just use the skill ! i can play all dps spec and im telling u its not easy to play dk without team
@TheNeveksla2 ай бұрын
@@arashmollaeipour Yea try playing enhance and say this again mate ;)
@arashmollaeipour2 ай бұрын
@@TheNeveksla bro i told u i played all dps specs
@arashmollaeipour2 ай бұрын
@@TheNeveksla btw im ok with shamy be the meta they deserve it like dk cuz they were shitttttttt for a long time in M+
@SeanKueny2 ай бұрын
fire isnt going to be that high trust me lmao
@S2kloveyou2 ай бұрын
phsychic Cream oh yeah... mhmm
@GodOfWar051002 ай бұрын
God, I love that shaman is finally an all rounder class. It always had to be like enha being good only at ST but a button mashing nightmare, elemental being mediocre and only resto being really viable but not all the time
@pawek67122 ай бұрын
frost dk doesnt do more dmg. mb aoe. single we were nerfed
@YuriDSC2 ай бұрын
"Mage is pretty much immortal" *looks at survivability of mages in keys and raids..., notices 80% when everyone else is between 95 and 98%, flabbergasted
@Navi_xoo2 ай бұрын
bad mage players are bad yes. mage has insane defensive tools but you have to know how to use them. they are squishy when brainlets tunnel on their terrible damage and die from not rotating defensives correctly.
@redguards522 ай бұрын
It's very skill based. Mages have the most defensive utility of any class BUT mages also are significantly squishier than other DPS classes, so if you get hit by something without using one of those defensives you'll get one shot and die much faster than other classes, but if you're good at using your defensives, you can survive anything.
@LeksuYT2 ай бұрын
Warlock is a joke.
@Elliriah2 ай бұрын
Frost DK isn't getting a buff, period. + We do not provide any buff to our party
@stevenbarbir51582 ай бұрын
Amz huge
@Elliriah2 ай бұрын
@@stevenbarbir5158 2mn cd
@Elliriah2 ай бұрын
@@stevenbarbir5158 2mn cd
@Elliriah2 ай бұрын
@@stevenbarbir5158 nop
@herbertph88792 ай бұрын
Everything is good or above? hahaha Funny
@thisonelooksangry2 ай бұрын
First!
@peettko2 ай бұрын
WTF THAT WAS SO QUICK
@mortalux2 ай бұрын
This is completely reversed in PvP lmao.
@deniartidd2 ай бұрын
Don't play flame strike... And everyone top player is using It 😅
@d-rexh2 ай бұрын
Stop with these kind of videos... it is so stupid to put some classes in a specific tier. These ranks are only on the highest level. And 98% of the viewers are not in this level of gameplay. You are ruining the pug because some classes will not be invited because of these videos. I see it way too much that for example a WW monk is out dpsing a enchancement shaman. And the I talk about 8+ keys. So please stop this. No use. Only if you play 10 or 11+ keys...
@stevenbarbir51582 ай бұрын
The guys literally a key pusher and he’s making a tier list to push the higher keys. What’s wrong with that?
@alexandri91212 ай бұрын
Dude you are either only playing +14 keystones or are exclusively raiding which makes you out of context 😂. Your list is completely messed up dude.
@flammableelmo49662 ай бұрын
Frost dk just got nerfed again out of nowhere...what happened blizzard to no major changes in the early seasons
@taliano69652 ай бұрын
DH is dead again back to shadowland
@stormy45412 ай бұрын
lol
@bolt502 ай бұрын
First
@bruddah_2 ай бұрын
ret pally needs the warrior treatment. get that class outta here!!
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
You do not know and it shows.
@bruddah_2 ай бұрын
@@havtor007 you’re right. It’s great blizzard has a spec for the disabled, so they can also participate in alll the fun content.
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
@@bruddah_ Love how you say that while at the same time trying to claim Warrior is hard. Reminder Fury was literally a 2 button spec in dragonflight my guy. You are not very bright here. But yeah you literally do not know what you are talking about and it is very easy to show because ret has gotten this treatment already, you are just not followed along enough to know about it.
@bruddah_2 ай бұрын
@@havtor007 who tf is saying warrior is hard? Both classes are disabled friendly. The way furry got nerfed, ret deserves the same treatment. Get some reading comprehension before you get in your feelings over a KZbin comment.
@havtor0072 ай бұрын
@@bruddah_ You are saying it. Oh and there is not a single dps spec in the game that is not disabled friendly do not think what you play is hard little one. Now you need to calm your little childish actions and sit down and read. I will spell it out for you. Retribution paladin is and have been target capped for Years expansions you are just to small minded to even know about it.
@twohopes83532 ай бұрын
im deleting the game and my ww monk. is pointless 10 years of being always at the bottom and olmost a trash pointless spec. whats the point? blizzard a bunch of bullies
@bukakabarabaka2 ай бұрын
@@twohopes8353 i feel you man. Just try play another specs.
@scottadavis80862 ай бұрын
Glad I don’t “pay attention” to “your opinion”. Been maining monk since pandaria and they are def in one of their best states. Tanking is great. I’ve seen a 605 il monk doing 900k dps for a dungeon run. Ntm healing wise, mw are a tier. Done watching and not subbing