I Ranked EVERY Ranged DPS EASIEST To HARDEST

[@XXLepic]

I’m too damn old now to do anything besides the easiest spec. I used to be obsessed with playing the best dps, change mains for the guild, & sweat hard as hell. But older I get, I Prio the most relaxing time possible above all else

[@Kradily]

Want to have the most relaxed time!? /console gamepadEnable 1 Play hunter or elemental shaman and watch as things melt while you sit back on a couch and laugh😂

[@LoLTerminus]

ok boomer

[@yukimizuno4046]

@@LoLTerminus a person who plays lol shouldnt speak

[@32Jonathan32]

@@Kradily what does this do?

[@rattlehead999]

@@32Jonathan32 Allows you to use a controller I think.

[@diegopereira6166]

I lived enough to see arcane mage going from the easiest arcane blast, arcane missiles procs and arcane barrage burn/conservative rotation to a master degree bigbrain cooldown management rotation

[@Jaredius]

…all while standing still ignoring 90% of all mechanics.

[@ristuksenvittu]

​@@Jaredius Exactly why you should play arcane now.

[@youbylon4070]

@@Jarediusarcane isn’t like that anymore. You talk crap about a game you clearly dont even play anymore

[@stu805x]

As someone who doesn’t know shit about wow retail anymore; I completely agree with everything you said. Mainly to disagree with the people raging in the comments claiming their specs are actually harder than you said they are lol

[@SunniestAutumn]

Always the case! Every class has range within it, where getting from 80% effectiveness to 95% effectiveness takes a lot of work. However, lots of people who main one class or two don't realize this is the case for all classes. The difference really comes in what is the easiest class to get you to that 80% effectiveness and in what content. Aug, for example, is notoriously easy to get to that 80% mark in M+, but you will pull out hairs trying to get there in raid. Meanwhile, something like Destro or Demo warlocks have you start at 80%. There's also the ego component. If you tell people that Demonology is piss easy, invested demonology players will take that as an insult, because they have spent the last 15 years one-tricking it and deal 5% more damage than you do.

[@BeastlyCold]

how can you agree if you dont know shit, as you said. i dont understand

[@bakedandbeaded]

@@BeastlyCold That's the joke, bro.

[@fimbulwinter3174]

No one is raging though. Being contrarian merely for the sake of being contrarian just makes you a cringe edgelord. .

[@kasperschouboe4111]

​@@fimbulwinter3174 Completely agree

[@adarvold5157]

the fact you can play all of these specs and explain their rotations is super impressive

[@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman]

this is the fun part: learning and discovering.

[@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763]

Personally I like elemental the most. So many buttons to press, elementals here, lightnings and magma stuff flying all over the place, the little ancestors helping out. Fun times.

[@Chimeraiam]

Been a mage main forever and I always describe fire as a "chess" spec. Just like the game of chess, you can learn fire in about 10 minutes but you could spend the rest of the expansion trying to master it

[@sebarieta1869]

For real, as an arcane main i tried switching to fire last dragonflight season, I thought it was easy but man, my damage was suffering so bad it takes A LOT to master

[@nickgman3592]

Yep i learned that the hardway. I still feel like i only get 75percent of potential damage lol

[@hellothere8812]

Frost is the easiest then fire then arcane. This is the only correct answer.

[@marcusviniciusebele5671]

sunfury arcane is way way harder than any fire spec/variation in TWW, trust me, been playing the beta and the amount of tracking and dupping stuff was never like now.

[@MrkraZzz]

I don't know about war within but in dragonflight i played all 3 mage specs and Fire was by far the easiest to play. Even easier than Frost. Especially when the stupid ignite build became meta in season 3.

[@Draevon68]

Thanks for the list and explanation of each spec. For those who think Vesperal doesn’t understand a class/spec, check out his videos. He has a video for each of them and his dps is insane with them all.

[@VesperalTV]

Lmao don’t worry about them brother, they’re just mad I said their main was easy

[@wavy2k]

My main was a fire mage and then main alt a enhancement shaman. I’m not sure if I suck at the game after seeing this, but dps has always felt like a challenge

[@FerelonShaderoot]

Heads up, augs personal damage has spiked up now and generally can do rather well dps for itself. Mixed with Chrono-Wardens abilities making Upheaval hit like a truck and generally giving yourself a good time. You can continue to buff your friends with Pres while also slapping the absolute dawg out of your enemies. Chrono-Flame feels nice to smack people with it.

[@jojoheadshrinker24]

overal you made a pretty good list. I personally would disagree with your spriest/aff/ele rankings. I think ele is one of the easier specs in the game, fire or lightning builds. Its only easier in wwi. Aff and sp are hindered by lack of mobility and you will see many players lose dps because of having to move for mechanics. Good list though

[@jani14jani]

Note, i'm not a ret or bm main. (I play fury because i like to ZUG-ZUG) but BM is harder than ret imo. With BM you have to have better target selection and what i mean by that on AOE you gotta select your targets on a way that your beast cleave hits the most targets. And as you know on pugs all the mobs tend not to be all grouped up nice. On ret, it didn't seem to matter at all you can just roll in and push your buttons and dps meter goes brrr...

[@TheShawnMower]

I think BM has the advantage because it's ranged therefore easier to deal with mechanics.

[@JosephJohnson-gu5fw]

I play Elemental Shaman. I suck at every other class and spec. The Tauren Shaman Moocy has never let me down. We've been buds for 15 some years off and on.

[@JosephJohnson-gu5fw]

The rules are simple. Blast chain lightning. keep you fire dot on. Drop a lava totem and use earthquake/earth shock when it's ready. It's like 4 things in the rotation. Feeling like you're taking alot of aggro? Summon your earth elemental to tank for a you giving you a chance to get some space and set up again. I really feel like Elemental has good offensive, defensive, and healing capacity. I like playing that jack of all trades master of none

[@felipesimonette4011]

RET is easier than BM, because it has a lot of healing, BM healing is trash compared to RET. So on the solo PVE RET is better

[@gehrillagaming6172]

I started playing elemental in Legion, which was also my first proper expansion in WoW, so I never really understood button bloat till I started playing other classes I legit thought it was normal to have 50 places where I have spells, are bound to random keys or just SHIFT, CTRL or ALT combinations of numbers, where I have 6 of each of those btw I'm at the point, where I have almost everything bound (except buff spells) and started unbinding other stuff, like the spell book and character buttons, so I don't accidentally blind myself with the map when I'm trying to put down a tremor totem

[@snaker339]

so real, ele having in M+ 10~12 rotation buttons, 3 cc buttons, 4 defensive buttons and 4 utility buttons is insane. Then there are trinkets and consumables...

[@nyth5167]

BM also has Master Handler now, which means you need to spread barbed shot dots in AoE to get maximum KC CDR. I think with that added the skill ceiling goes up a bit. BM is still one of the easiest specs, but there is a bit more depth then people see at first sight. I love it because the rotation, while simple, is quite good; and I don't always need to play 3D Chess. I mean I like playing some of the more difficult classes too, but sometimes a solid simple approach is more fun. People just like to hate on it because of the low skill floor.

[@TheShawnMower]

It's the most forgiving because of its ability to never have to stop and Hardcast while being at range. Unless they change this or vastly make its rotation harder, BM will always win easiest to play.

[@SunniestAutumn]

See, this is a perfect example of what I've been saying. Even if a class is easy enough for children in clown school to play effectively, people one-tricking it will argue it actually has hidden depth that makes it difficult. Beast Mastery has been up there in top 3 easiest specs ever for the past 20 years and in the past 10 years there hasn't been an easier spec. Every class has talent interactions that add hidden depth to a class that get you 2% more DPS on patchwerk fights, but that is not what the classes being easy is about. There isn't a truly difficult class to learn at an intermediate level and every class has something you can do to better master it. That's the nature of the game, not just class design.

[@Gabo87hu]

For example, although BM Hunter is strong, it is weak and easily destroyed on mythic keys, because it has no survivability. It's no coincidence that the meta has been the same on all keys for years (DH, Rog, Mage, Priest, WL). The warrior, dk and other characters are also strong, but above a certain level (and even with the key that gives the highest item level available) they only carry a meta ring, unfortunately... that's why the game is dead, because it's never balanced, not only the dmg be good, but also the survival skills

[@Khaljiit]

/tar /cast barbed shot ez mode

[@andrewrodriguez7493]

Every class has nuance. BM has the least. It is by far and away the easiest class in the game to play and be effective.

[@bquirky23]

i believe arcane after a missile , blasts then blasts(barrage) , that way the 2nd blast + barrage combo both benefit from the 2nd nether precision . its gets bonkers with sunfury when they benefit from nether precision + burden of powder stacked :D Great breakdown on all the specs btw !

[@Stekcubom]

yes it works like frost in that regard, but you have to make sure you have either orb or clear casting proc so you can get your charges back quick

[@grandaddy0807]

I've played about half the specs 'seriously' and I completely agree with your list!

[@dirtysilver2841]

I mained a frost mage and alt a pally in every expansion since BC. I love the direction their going with frost mage but, I think they have to rework the numbers more. I raid with my guild and I'm always in 7th place. I could not figure out why so I turned to our raid leader for some help. He figured out that for some reason only flurry freezing raid bosses activates that crit bonus, nothing else does. It's the only way the numbers make sense to him. We aren't sure if this is deliberate or not. If it is, it puts frost near the bottom for DPS because it just lacks the punching power for ST capabilities against aid bosses.

[@sagacious-nv6zt]

Overall solid, good content. Watching this makes me realize that there are a ton of things that go into making something 'hard' or making something 'easy'. People are initially better or worse at managing movement restriction, dots, procs, speed of button presses etc that skews perception. Or just the amount of time playing- for instance I have played demo for so long I find it much easier than destro. Also, I find frost hard, but only because all of the buttons look the same and have similar names- frost, glacial, blah blah blah- I lose track of what does what and lost interest to learn hahaha.

[@booradley6832]

I think you were on to something about BM but then backed out too soon. Frost DK and Ret are so simple but nobody will put them in their place, whille BM gets constantly talked down to when its not so much simple anymore as just smooth. Straightforward spec but requires good execution to get the most of. Ret and Frost, yeah you just hit random buttons and basically you're good. Also I think you touched on it yourself that you're not the right guy to rank some specs. When you said you dont like the support aspect at all that was a sign you should have put the evoker in its own tier of "I cant rate it" lol. Curious to see your tanks and healers,

[@asierra86]

Been playing BM since 04... I'm not gonna apologize!

[@โบยบิน-ฃ2ด]

Same here.

[@nyth5167]

@@asierra86 People tend to equate easy with boring. But often a more simple easy spec is more enjoyable than an unnecessarily bloated rotation.

[@Nexxcraft]

it's ur live buddy !

[@Kradily]

Not gonna sugar coat it… I’m a controller user and BM hunter is my couch partner for relaxed play.

[@Laura-ph9yv]

Right?? "BM is so broken right now they're bottom tier!" Leave me and my hyena children alone we been livin our best life since like 2010 😒

[@Xxfire90x]

This list seems very accurate. I would only dissagree with outlaw. From my experience it is harder than DH, but I have no idea of their current situation in TWW. I'd love most fun specs tier list for TWW

[@Sanguivore]

Quite helpful vid! Thanks, Vesperal. Returning to the game after a few years away so this info is useful.

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

Arcane main here and tbh I'd rank the current arcane with hero talents as more difficult than DF arcane ever was. The rework added a fair bit of rng yo deal with and we double dip precision with blast now if certain requirements are met. SF Arcane is a nightmare of tracking, you full on need auras to track orbs or you'll never do well. I'd rank it a 9/10 tbh

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

For reference I've played arcane at a high level off and on since ICC and SF Arcane is probably the most difficult I've ever found the class to be.

[@danh7397]

Especially SF

[@xheapshot3325]

I really don't like the new arcane playstyle with the queueing barrage after 2nd AB. It takes 2 1/2 gcds so uf a mechanic comes out you need to shield for you lose your nether precision and have to completely change your rotation when bouncing between a single clearcast proc

[@Hunsmasher]

What RNG are you talking about? Orbs procs? not a big deal... CC procs? Missile providing random charges? That's all RNG sunfury got (until 4P) which affect (not so badly) your gameplay.

[@BrawndoQC]

Did you raid with Arcane during WoTLK?

[@crimsiden]

Torn between Frost DK and Windwalker. Leaning toward windwalker but I remember that class being such a pain to survive with in harder content lol

[@LunaStarFire]

Open world swap to brew, 95% of the damage but your danger is the entire room vs a ninja pull with ww

[@scooba789]

Tl;dr: BM, destro, devastation, balance, MM, aug, frost, demo, shadow, affli, ele, arcane, fire

[@Lowebotz]

Mvp

[@Meerkatx5]

Nice list, of course all this is subjective but it's nice to get an idea of where the specs rank in terms of ease with hero talents.

[@a.a.6464]

Nice explanation and also the short guides for the classes lol. Frost, balance, destro, ele and maybe thunder fury could be interesting to many classes again 😂 or my 2 worst skilled specs outlaw and fire mage could be a challenge

[@sylon5694]

Im almost at 3k io and still can't get good numbers on frost mage. Arcane felt so much easier for me which i would have never thought.

[@AdamMS1384]

I haven’t done a ton of research this expansion so I admit my comment comes from a lack of knowledge/depth. But I started leveling my enhancement shaman from 70 last night and I have zero idea what makes it “difficult”. I was absolutely smashing the Hallowfall elites like it was nothing. As a matter of fact, out of the 3 characters I’ve leveled so far (frost/unholy DK, frost mage, enhance shaman), my shaman appears to be by far the strongest at the same point. I know im not max level and I only got 1 hero point so far but, what am I missing?

[@MadOrse]

Playing BM and doing absolutely crap DPS xD I try real hard to keep the frenzy and cleave up, but there's just so much that causes me to miss a second here and there and that brings me HARD

[@dennisengelen2517]

How did you get timers for each DOT on the enemy health bars?

[@malykothedragon]

What is the plater you use as shown in the demo warlock clips?

[@rcd992]

Spellsling Arcane is easier, but Sunfury Arcane is much harder than fire. Arcane is overtuned and Fire is undertuned so obviously it is harder to do dmg on fire currently, but Arcane has more passives/procs to keep track of to max DPS compared to Fire. Also, nobody was saying Fire is that hard when it was OP at the start of beta.

[@DrPluton]

I play Arcane Mage because I've played a mage since 2005. Frost is easier to play, and I love Frost. That said, I love Spellslinger Arcane because I don't have to run into melee range and spam Arcane Explosion repeatedly.

[@Daimyo-]

I mean, you can explain enhancement's rotation, but you still call it hard because of tracking. Yet, you can't even begin to explain arcane's rotation because it's so complex, especially as sunfury. I think the answer is right there. You can play arcane relatively easily (and be bad) but if you want to be good it's one of the hardest specs in the game. Anyone who doesn't agree go talk with Porom or Preheat.

[@tierlis422]

yeah, boomkin is way harder than that. it should be around where afflic is.

[@dilididli2274]

Yeah, especialy when he's explanation of how to use eclipse was teribad.

[@reuterss306]

Enhancement really isnt hard imho. It has button bloat problem, but in the end it is a priority system where small "mistakes" make not much of a difference. You just have to get playing around tempest right and you're gucci. I know because I had no clue about enh and I got some pretty solid numbers in raid and m+. Also I would put Feral into easier or mid perhaps. The days when feral was hard are long gone, even when you play with swarm and bt it is pretty easy once you understand the core principles. But yeah, just my personal opinion I guess. :D What you need in both cases tho: A proper weakaura. Because sadly the blizz UI is dogsh*t.

[@robusmc1713]

That's a lot of work, thank you ❤

[@xheapshot3325]

It seems like you did some research on arcane, did some keys and testing to get kinda use to it, then rated it. I could be wrong but I would be surprised if you played it more than 4 hours. I agree with all the lock specs. Aff feels boring especially in raid with 60% of the time spamming shadow bolt. I agree with enh being the most difficult. Sub I feel isn't as hard as you say. The shadow dance windows is the only time I even sit up while playing it. BM hunter hardest too obviously

[@emanon2121]

if Balance is on the easier tier, it must have completely changed because it used to be the hardest caster spec in the game

[@mellowsunset7730]

Love your content man, keep it up! 😊

[@PowDJoke]

Thanks for the tier list :) even though I don’t get how you find Demo easier than Arcane but alright

[@john2lhotalify]

Great content man. Always a good moment watching your vids. keep em coming!! :)

[@Thesmurfeater12345]

Frost being harder to play than balance seems insane

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

Yeah, that's crazy. Balance is at least at the middle of the pack in terms of complexity

[@Gunther69420]

@@dmitriystelmakh8086 Balance is a borderline one button spec right now. How is that in the middle in terms of complexity?

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

@@Gunther69420 only dude who never played Balance at good level coule say that:)

[@prax4173]

Playing mm now and yeah sure its not that bad of a rotation but you still have to swap talents between every boss and have a different playstyle

[@hugob8193]

The list looks good overall, but i'd move down both shaman spec a bit. Enhance difficulty is so overrated, and elem isnt hard at all. Outlaw is a 3 button spec, but the high apm and procs should be enough to be in harder tier, while sub should not be in hardest

[@ElOvnen]

Highly agreed. When I tried Enhance, I was surprised that it didn't feel difficult at all. It has quite a lot of buttons and procs. But pressing them doesn't really require much thought. Outlaw, on the other hand, feels a bit like Fire Mage where it's easy to make minor mistakes and you can be massively penalized for making mistakes.

[@g-riki1258]

i play 4 specs on title degree and a few more close to title level. all im gonna say is there is not a single spec that is even close to sub. if you think other way, you never tried playing sub on a good level

[@sixstackjack]

i play aug and i would not say its the hardest, but its far from easy, coas if you wanna keep Ebon Might up on people as much as possible you realy need to do it right, if you miss one cast then the buff will fall off and the dmg will drop, also keep the pressience on the correct targets in a raid can be tricky aswell.. but for dmg dealing its basicly just a spam Eruption and living flames,

[@thoriumbrother]

What's causing incinerate to hit all your targets in the dungeon video? Looks like more than just havoc

[@TheShawnMower]

Fire and Brimstone. Old talent returns

[@pim1977]

Nice overview Vesp, good work :)

[@TheLordDracula]

I really want to play enhance some day. I love the fantasy of it, but it's always been button bloat fest with the speed of fury and the priority style of shadow. It's just too fast and too busy for me to realistically play it and raid lead at the same time

[@antoinehsc.2492]

Overall I can agree with most of what you said (would have moved destro a bit cause of mobility). But man i cant agreee at all with aff, it is such a pain in the ass to play compared to most casters. Extracting its value is so awful, mostly cause of design. It is not hard or complicated per day, but it is hard to be good with it

[@ObsessedCollector]

As a BM hunter, I find this sad :( Never knew it was the easiest spec.

[@krypto051]

Why does it make you sad? Easiest doesn't mean weakest

[@RicFX]

What’s the mod he’s using to show next priority spell (above damage meter)

[@AlexLeib]

I guess thats the Hekili Priority Helper.

[@MeowMeow6118a]

Playing tons of Feral and Rogue, so for me it's very easy since I'm playing them since years. I also play Mage my only caster class that I play and I dont think Arcane and Fire mage are in the right row, in my opinion they should be in mid, frost is fine.

[@MatthewCreech-m6v]

I just wanna know what Addon he's using for the cast timers on mobs. Thats pretty clean.

[@wavy2k]

Yes i want to know what addon he’s using for the targets and current dots they are experiencing above the movs heads.

[@rybr3ad]

@@wavy2k @MatthewCreech-m6v The addon is called Plater and you can import his plater profile through his most recently video

[@zuluhawk]

Love the button layout, did you do it in Edit Mode?

[@Worwy]

It's interesting to see how others view the game. I've been playing Rogue since Vanilla, and personally, I find Subtlety to be one of the easiest specs in the game. But Fire or Arcane Mage? Absolutely unplayable for me-I always end up switching to Frost after a few attempts, even though I've studied the Fire rotation everywhere I can

[@raquayzapwnage]

I find sub the hardest and it’s the class I most wanna get into. I really don’t get how to use my damage modifiers properly, you have dance, blades and symbols, which one do I click first ??? So many things to track

[@Worwy]

@@raquayzapwnage haha press all😁 if u are not sure how to time it, just make a two macros “#showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast Shadow Dance /cast Symbols of Death /cast Shadow Blades” and second macro “#showtooltip Secret Techniku /cast Cold Blood /cast Secret Technique” then line up your dance with secret technique and u will be fine 😊 u can also add trinket use in the first macro

[@Ioannisg95]

@@raquayzapwnage Sub rogue can be played easily with 2,3 macros.Outlaw is far more difficult to master it.

[@Archaelyon]

Played quite a bit of Arcane on Beta and I'm sorry but it's a super simple spec these days, barely juggling or monitoring anything. I think certain specs like to pretend like they're doing 1000 complex things when in reality they're very basic, take Augvoker for instance. Nothing difficult about these specs tbh, I'd say far more to line up and monitor on a Demo Lock

[@Boretooth]

Agreed. There was a bit in there where he was explaining the complexities of arcane, but it basically translated to "just press what procs/lights up" lol

[@athletebynature9705]

can you overlay with the easiest to hardest tanks now pls :)😀

[@nerfshaman]

Been playing BM since launch and I can guarantee that survival is easier at least for dungeons...

[@rattlehead999]

modern survival no, pre-legion survival sure.

[@bohuslav5019]

Your perspective on frost mage is very out of date. Very little of what you said has anything to do with Spellslinger frost, which is currently the only choice for frost considering frostfire is bugged.

[@ziminar93]

Have you seen Sunfire Arcane mage? if thats what you takje... thats very hard.

[@onlysily]

Stormbringer isn't that easy if you wanna get big dps out of it. The instant chain lightning procs need to be tracked so you dont cast stormbringer on them which cancel each other out and tgere are instant chain lightning/lightning bolt procs which ypu need to track so you use tgem before casting tempest or tgey also overwrite and earth shock/earthquake also buff up to the next 2 chain lightning/lightning bolts so you also need to be careful to interchange them if u want to get more of your rotation, and elementals can also proc and you can use them as burst windows ... And more. I would say elemental deserved to be on top with hardest

[@MrNbkelly]

Not clicking stormbringer when chain lightning is flashing is really not that hard lol. I play stormbringer and I think he's spot on that it would be in the easier/easiest. In M+ we are basically spamming one button a majority of the time.

[@daniel93751]

whats the addon that scrolls the rotation on the bottom right?

[@rodneyhorsley8601]

It may be experience but I find Ele very easy, though to be fair been playing it since MoP and I find Aff the hardest range.

[@Habdiha]

What hp bar Addon are you using for the dot timers?

[@TheShawnMower]

I doubt anybody can play all 13 classes in every spec well enough to have a perfect tier list so this seems okay i guess.

[@Cheeky_Bandit]

Putting Dev evoker in the easiest tier is kinda wild. The spec is absolutely harder than any of the lock specs. You have to manage your shattering star and Eternity surge damage buffs effectively and fire breath red damage buffs. Because if you don't you will lose between 20%-60% of your damage. You don't just pyre on multiple mobs, you hold pyre buffs for your dragon rage so all 3 cook off with 20 stacks. If Dragon Rage is not available then you just pop pyre at 20 stacks. You need to manage your bombardments effectively with a good scale commander able to get two mobs with bombard on them simultaneously for double the aoe and deep breath CD reduction. And most importantly you absolutely must manage your deep breath melt armor window effectively if you want to maximize your damage at the same time holding it for aoe stuns on the right pack of mobs. Some of these damage windows only lasting 4 seconds and in fights which force you to move a lot you will find it difficult to plant yourself for an empowered spell which is the cornerstone of your entire rotation. Add in that you have to hunt for higher Health Bars because of your mastery, you don't want your main target disintegrate to be a lower health mob. Not even worth mentioning flame shaper for Dev because Engulf simply doesn't flow well with the spec in the same way black arrow doesn't flow well with hunter.

[@Aelu351]

Actualy droppe boomie in easiest is mad 😂 seen so many boomies doing shit.. i mean boomie got easier compared to older expansions, but still difficult to master. Its not just about doing the damage and rotation, therefore i would rank it higher

[@Ntwolf1220]

I like destro cuz chaos bolt go brrr and I don’t have to think much

[@kollinhalliwell2263]

saw your SP , you dot the first mob then. next second every mob got the dot , how do you do that ? Any idea how to apply dot fast for all the mobs during m+?

[@Me.h0w]

I think You’re thinking about shadow crash spell

[@BonespiritMcgee]

"Add is definitely the hardest of the warlocks" *Aff main since 1.11 with thousand dot stare*: Heh, This iteration is THE BEST aff has been in almost a decade. And it's one of the easiest iterations as well. It's always funny to see non-Aff mains or people switch to Aff for flavor of the month and just get completely wrecked from the priority management. xD

[@BrawndoQC]

I don't know I found aff pretty easy in the WoTLK era.

[@BonespiritMcgee]

​@@BrawndoQC WotLK was more than a decade ago, 2008.

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

Boomie is not that easy. You're very slow in getting your peak damage, if you take wrong position and mechanics force you to move - you lose a lot of dps. You also need to always tab the pack to keep uptime of debuffs. You said specs that maintain debuffs are always harder, but put Boomie to easiest

[@vergozero9806]

I know that i am noob but i find Augmentation pretty complicated

[@JetBrews]

Okay but ret can also do their abilities on the move too.

[@okitansil5544]

Can u share what addon do you use ?

[@StriderIK]

Lmaoing at people saying their ez specs are “hard” because they added a basic as fuck mechanic to increase dps by 0.5% 😂👌

[@JOD3_N]

Do you have melee ? i can't find video

[@Skurvvy]

Vile Taint? New metal band name 😂🤘

[@henril872]

I can play ret with my eyes closed, literally, did it in +15 s4 in a few packs

[@tylerjohnson340]

Good tier list bro. I like what you said about Affliction. I like Aff because it's rotation is linear and a lot less dynamic than a lot of other rotations. ((You can talent into things that make it more dynamic but in general it's pleasantly static and straightforward)) The difficulty comes from timing/reapplying DoTs and DoT management in general can be a pain. Once you got that down though you're chillin' like you said.

[@VesperalTV]

Appreciate it bro!

[@prax4173]

I think fire is easier than arcane otherwise good list.

[@zuzzuhimosan2597]

Hei man, can you put out content for Throne and Liberty when it comes out?

[@Mingcs]

the only reason you find elemental shaman hard is because you make it hard for yourself

[@GokuAlkis]

I would strongly disagree with a few of those. Lock main since 2004 (with aff being my fav specc). If you place on the same tier Demo and Aff you know something is wrong. You have forgotten to mention that you have to curse dangerous mobs every pack + since you are the slowest caster you need to pre plan the fight with gates/portals. When you play Aff in M+ keys every time you have to assess in the first packs the rest of the dpsers (regarding time to kill packs) in order to plan your cds with the future appropriate packs. Destros main difficulty is movement during fights. It's the most turrety specc where there is more min maxing of GCDs. I haven't played MM & Devastation on beta at all so can't comment there. Elemental is about 3 times easier than Aff (both hero talents). Frost mage is brain dead - deffo top "easiest". Anyway this is my opinion obviously.

[@jaketanner2454]

I’m getting into lock and I agree with what you’re saying I was surprised aff was where it is. I do think that Fire being the hardest ranged spec and not even being in the hardest tier is a little shameful for the ranged folks. Fire mages are super easy to fuck up though and I believe deserve to be where they are. I haven’t played ele but I’m excited to try it, I didn’t know it was as hard as he claims.

[@WeaponTheyFear69]

Yea, this seems way off for Warlock, esp in a season that looks to be riddled with forced heavy movement.

[@AllGodsDue]

destro has the easiest caster rotation in the game. Because of that, you can literally spend all your time focusing on improving movement and boss fight mechanics. Thats why it gets the rep it does. I've heard numerous people over the years cite this as the braindead caster of choice. Frost is easy, but it actually does typically have some combos you have to dedicate at least some focus toward. You can literally play destro rotation clicking.

[@EssenceOfTrance]

Arcane is imo harder than Fire. Fire is not that hard once you got it in your fingers. ​@@jaketanner2454

[@mikea.3686]

While you might be right, ain't no one in low keys worrying about cursing dangerous mobs lol

[@slagwerk111]

Dev does not feel right aug feel right

[@pologrim2]

My gf plays bm hunter and struggles hard. Ret has got to be easier

[@Stytch_]

Arcane mage is no where near hard….frost is deceivingly more difficult than it appears.

[@artix444]

Hmm the Time is melee dps.

[@Me.h0w]

Ret is the most braindead spec in the game. Healing, bubble, no rotation, just spam shit on Your Keyboard…that’s why I main It

[@patreco578]

assa rogues are not hard at ALL, i mean it, single target gets so boring you can sleep on it, aoe is what gives a lil speed on the rotation

[@sanchezmcdirty1]

I quit early Dragonflight before Augvoker was out , can people tell me does devastation pretty much get replaced by Augvoker now? like "oh youre dev, nvm we need aug"

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

Doesn't matter how good dev now, because aug buffs all the party and makes runs easier

[@Enchantix00Sasori]

@@dmitriystelmakh8086Aug is insanely overrated. The granted damage is nowhere near a Deva‘s damage and the only thing Aug provides is a little bit more health and having a cheat death. People saying Deva is trash and yet my Deva most of the time bulldozes and Meta class is just comic relief.

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

@@Enchantix00Sasori extra mana for healer, extra mitigation for tank, extra crowd control, reducing of major cooldowns of the party, increasing burst damage of the party. Current sims say aug gives approx. 20-25% extra damage for 2 other dps. Pure dps numbers lower than dev has, but in general key feels much easier with aug. Especially for healer. So, no, aug is not overrated, and dev is nowhere near it.

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

@@Enchantix00Sasori if aug was overrated, there wouldn't be 95 out of 100 top parties that push keys with it

[@dmitriystelmakh8086]

@@Enchantix00Sasori in new reality of TWW when tanks became squish, aug is almost must for high keys

[@kasperschouboe4111]

Affli and demo simply can't be in the same tier

[@ZackVuldin]

would you say fury or ret is easier in arena for a new player?

[@jakewhite215]

ret

[@Ioannisg95]

If you want to play pvp go ret paladin and arms warrior.Fury is more a PVE spec.

[@dilididli2274]

@@Ioannisg95 Fury as beated arms in S4 and IMO war is easier. War feel like your doing your PvE rotation and spam things that flash from proc without really thinking about it. This is the reason why I've played one and that I will play one in TWW for solo shuffle.

[@kimchy4692]

Pvp is dead in wow, you should play something like dota or lol or cs if you want pvp

[@kimchy4692]

@@gahno76 Theres nothing to revive mate. They've been trying to ''revive'' fo some time now. I've seen the sure and steady decline in wow pvp over past 6 year to the point where it is now, dead and buried. Vast majority of wow players dont dabble in pvp what so ever and with good reason. Its too complex, rewards are not there, its a bad experience for average player and no one cares at the end of the day. There are far better pvp alternatives out there.

[@wavy2k]

What addon is showing info above targets heads?

[@CoreMsK]

Storm ele build will be like ret pala

[@connorofaolain117]

As an Ele main since BC and avid Aug enjoyer during season 3 (went back because there's too much you gotta take care of), I couldn't be more confused how you can have a harder time playing Ele than Aug mate xD

[@MaethorDerien]

Yeah the lightning ele build is stupidly simple, you don't need pwave, icefury, elemental blast, Your just blasting lightning, it is stupidly fun but about as far as you can get from difficult. Aug is easy in M+ but stupidly difficult to play at a high level in raids to the point where people were using external spreadsheets. It kinda makes me a little suspicious for the other rankings for classes I didn't try in the beta.

[@sirswampert9194]

Did you watch the video? He literally explained that lightning build would probably be above Aug while fire build would be lower because of key bind bloat...

[@connorofaolain117]

@@sirswampert9194 Yeah, fire build is just easy af, too mate. In fact I barely ever even played lightning build since it was simply not viable on higher keys. Instead of spamming chain lightning, you just mass apply flame shock and spam lava bursts for fast prim waves ^^'

[@khrism7919]

I had a mini-stroke when he put Elemental as harder than Havoc

[@connorofaolain117]

@@khrism7919 Tbf everything aside from BM is harder than Havoc, though. Hope that doesn't give you a real stroke.

[@Nic-q6g]

About to start playing again torn between frost/arcane mage and dh any suggestions from anyone

[@rahee9482]

Ret is way easier than BM lol

[@WitchHunterRobin]

Frost mage is just so boring to play... spellslinger is boring asf, frostfire trash.... Switched to Demo warlock and dont regret it, demo is so fun to play i love diabolist hero talent