Ranking Every 10th Doctor Episode from Most Good to Most Ungood

[@meris8486]

okay I think you need to do a whole video breaking down Blink to explain all the writing problems because you just dropped a hot take that deserves more justification

[@matthewhartman1855]

rewatching blink I thought it was a little rushed in certain places (getting sally sparrow and side characters to the places they need to be is over really fast) and I think the resolution is fairly weak. It's definitely an episode that stripped of the cool time stuff with the angels and the easter eggs is a lot less good. I don't think I can name any of the side characters or any characteristics they have other than the defining thing they need for the plot. That being said, the time aspects ARE in the episode, so it's still good even if some of it's writing is weak IMO.

[@wheatley9601]

@@matthewhartman1855 yeah honestly Moffat's weakest entry in the RTD era even though it's still great

[@RJA]

@@matthewhartman1855 definitely could have done with being a 2 partner but given it's meant to be a doctor light episode it goes about things well.

[@Cicen2]

One other thing is the beginning where the angels off screen throw a vase at Sally. Why on earth would they do that instead of just going up to her and zapping her into the past? But I'm not convinced it's only ok; Jay needs to elaborate.

[@jacobcurle8964]

Honestly I’ve long been of the opinion that Blink is super overrated. The Weeping Angels were a great monster creation, but beyond that the episode doesn’t have a huge amount to offer. The novelty of the Weeping Angels has worn off by now so rewatches of Blink don’t tend to be as enjoyable.

[@lux4019]

Thing is most of the events do get brought up again, maybe not to the extent that Jay wants but still here are some examples: Army of Ghosts is referenced in the runaway bride as the doctor is surprised Donna doesn't remember it (specific to her character). Martha references it in Smith and Jones when she's on the moon talking to the doctor about space and aliens. The Master references it in his Toklafane broadcast when addressing the country to show how honest he is, he also brings up the events of the slitheen 2 parter and the runaway bride with the Raknoss ship, incidentally his role in taking it down is partly how he ends up getting elected. The events of army of ghosts and doomsday are also referenced in Torchwood and SJA but admittedly that is shifting the goalpost a tiny bit. The Sycorax invasion and the christmas star cause brits to shelter at Christmas in the voyage of the damned so I would argue there is still impact

[@Tom-xt1jn]

Yeah, that's a weird complaint because although maybe it'd be nice to see more about how the world changes in a way that affects future stories in a more meaningful way, the Davis era as a whole is so interconnected there's so so many references and acknowledgements of previous events in both the main show and spinoff shows that really made me feel like it was an interconnected world more than maybe any other "anthology" or I suppose "anthology-eque" show

[@PetersonZF]

This has been an issue for a while. Everyone in the world fell asleep at the same time in 1979 and in 1986, a huge fucking planet full of Cybermen arrived in Earth orbit. Both lead to invasions that I think most people should have remembered. I think it's in The Moonbase (in 2070) that someone remarks that every child knows Cybermen once existed, but they were defeated. That might be a reference to the 1986 invasion... or *maybe* it's a reference to the Army of Ghosts! Wibbly wobbly, timely wimey!

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@Tom-xt1jn people just don't pay enough attention sometimes

[@thatoneguy4452]

It's ok Jay, you're allowed to be wrong about Blink. Also, I think the Doctor's advice in The Shakespeare Code is more a general thing as opposed to being specific to the time a place they're currently in. The Doctor rarely makes attempts to fit in wherever he goes.

[@legofan370]

Yea, the fact that Jay says it's THE MOST RACIST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO MARTHA is pretty eye rolling. I think it just comes down to: The Doctor doesn't care so you shouldn't. Plus, it's pretty much non-verbally stated that The Doctor would never let anything bad happen to her and he will protect her no matter what.

[@yana5284]

Exactly what I thought, he's just his usual cocky self and knows that nothing bad is gonna happen to Martha. 10 seems to acknowledge through his Time Lord's perspective that this is how history unfortunately was at the time, and doesn't try to disrupt this in regards to the comments made to Martha, similarly to how he calls Donna his 'plucky' assistant in Unicorn and the Wasp. Weirdly, when 12 is a comparable position with Bill, albeit the comments made to Bill are far worse, he knocks the guy out; the writer making the Doctor (one of the most anti-violence characters written) flippantly violate his general non-violence and limited interference rules feels inconsistent with the character, like they desperately wanted to win points with the audience and seem like 'nice people'. It's incredibly insulting for them to think that the audience needs to be told that racism is bad, as if everyone doesn't already know that. It goes without saying.

[@thatoneguy4452]

@@yana5284 12's punch really bothered me too, just too out of character. The Doctor would give the guy a dressing down, not resort to violence.

[@comicconcarne]

12's punch was nice but perhaps would be more expected from 3 or 7

[@Drakkona123]

@@comicconcarne 7? Have you watched literally any story involving the 7th Doctor? 3, though, you're absolutely right, and that's why we love Pertwee.

[@404am3]

Whenever jay asks chat to guess where its going, i genuinely can’t tell because recent episodes have been all so bad that every single 10th doctor episode seems god tier

[@katarinabrunk8698]

true, I mean to me even the ones that peaple would rate as bad I just see as okay, like the lazurus experiment, I thought it was kinda fascinating I thought it had some really strong moments, but that's just me lol

[@shortangel333]

Not gonna lie, the Lazurus Experiment is hated for the CGI but its like those "bad" 80s episode of DW, they're hated cause they look bad, deep down they're fun and interesting but never amazing.

[@yana5284]

@@shortangel333 True, people let the CGI drag their opinion of it down more than it should.

[@Mewobiba]

The ending of Love & Monsters would've been vastly improved if the Doctor went and got Ursula a badass mechsuit to slot that pavement into :¶

[@Mewobiba]

Also the "we even have some intimate moments" or whatever the BJ joke is would've been much better with her swinging around giant piston arms.

[@rebelprincess1164]

Or maybe if she wasn’t just a slab of pavement

[@Mypetdalek]

I agree. The most fucked up thing about it to me is that the Doctor offers to get Cassandra a new body grown for her in New Earth earlier in the same series. Ursula couldn't get the same treatment?

[@RJA]

At least it's more interesting and fun than Fear Her and the Lazarus Experiment.

[@Mewobiba]

@@RJA Actually just rewatched the lazarus experiment, and yeah, it's a mess. The two things I enjoyed was: 1) The old dude turned into HBomberguy 2) Martha introducing the Dr to her mum was kinda awkward cute even though it didn't make sense.

[@danielcooper3332]

I think School Reunion should be in fantastic not just because of Sarah Jane but the interaction the Doctor has with Mr Finch.

[@shortangel333]

ok but the Wedding of Sarah Jane and Death of the Doctor are better interactions between the two

[@danielcooper3332]

@@shortangel333 I agree though to be fair they weren't having to devote time to Rose finding out she wasn't the Doctor's "first".

[@domlo66]

Rather than talking about Doctor Who in terms of showrunner eras or Doctor-actor eras, can we start talking about it terms of who the grease man was in each series? "Things really went downhill after x took over as the grease man. He's a hack!"

[@tomubaato]

yes, please

[@minerman60101]

Chris Chibnall is the absolute worst grease man I have seen in my (admittedly short) lifetime.

[@domlo66]

@@minerman60101 Agreed. The whole 'Greasy Child' story arc is an embarrassment

[@enbyennui]

The Sycorax invasion directly impacts the Series 3 arc - we hear an order come in from "Mr Saxon" who at this point is Secretary of Defence, and it's later explained that the power vacuum created by the Doctor deposing Harriet Jones is what allows the Master to become PM.

[@Cyberleader672]

Saxon was mentioned during the Racnoss attack. Not the Sycorax

[@mr.randomguys7629]

@@Cyberleader672 Yes, but by removing Harriet Jones from power due to how she handled the Sycorax, the Master was able to step in and become the Prime Minister.

[@fabesey2016]

I saw 42 recently and it basically does most of the stupid things that are Chibnall hallmarks. Wall to wall exposition narrating every waking moment, the silly pub quiz machine contrivance to make the countdown threatening, there's that guy kissing Martha and the development of that amounts to he existed in the escape pod with her for 2 minutes, characters just stating their motivations and that's it....

[@diccchocolate416]

Can't forget the doctor constantly being on the backfoot for no real reason

[@meris8486]

it tries to do too much at once and its core gimmick of 42 mins isn't even consistent

[@legofan370]

The only reason 42 is any good is the direction from Graeme Harper. The pacing is genuinely brilliant, but the rest of the story is forgettable and pretty much shit. If Harper didn't direct, it probably would be even worse than it already is.

[@shortangel333]

I find it really boring... like most Chris Chibnall episodes. He should've stuck to Torchwood.

[@aaronsmith9519]

Chibnall relies on his 'humans are the real villains' trope because they harvested a living sun, but come on. Is it really that unreasonable for people to harvest a sun that they don't know is alive?

[@edward4840]

I think Lazarus Experiment would've been greatly improved if the Doctor and Lazarus (I assume that's the scientist's name I don't remember) are friends. Maybe when the Doctor worked for UNIT they were colleagues, but now Lazarus is a dying man. That way he can be more direct in his defences. The Doctor might say it's incorrect to extend life like this, or that a longer life isn't a better one - but then Lazarus who knows he's a Time Lord and is slightly immortal can point out that for Doctor death is much less of a concern and a threat. The Doctor gets a long life and for most of it he isn't worried about his death, but Lazarus is human and has a relatively short life which is nearing its end. Make it an engaging conversation about death and age and the Doctor's relationship to and perhaps alienation from those conceptions instead of abandoning all that for a big monster runabout

[@matthewlacey4198]

That's such a good rewrite, my god, that would've been amazing

[@DontSigh]

I know why people have gripes with Last of the Timelords but I really don't. Maybe it makes the Doctor a bit too jesus-y, but I think that was an issue with all of Tennant's run. I like the climax and resolution of that episode because 1, they built it up with the Archangel network stuff, so it makes sense, and 2, it's thematically satisfying that they are able to 'win the day' without resorting to the violence that is expected of them. I also like the resolution of New Earth, because I don't find it dumb that the cure spreads like a disease - you watch that scene and just with the way it's shot you can see that the intention is to emphasize *touch* as healing. Remember that those 'lab rats' were created to be test subjects, they never had childhoods or mothers or anything - the touch that heals them is the first time they touch anyone. It's thematic!!

[@mimiHTcat]

also the themes of humans rallying behind a figurehead and also words having power are set up early in s3. i think LOTL is mostly let down but its visuals, but there are a lot of strong thematic, character, and storytelling elements that make up for it

[@AH-vm8yo]

The one Moffat Doctor threat I like is when house says. 'Fear me, I've killed hundreds of timelords.' Then the Doctor responds with 'Fear me, I've killed all of them.'

[@JackSpackProductions]

Main one I would change would be Stolen Earth. The two parter with Journey’s End is what let it down, and I think that lack of a satisfying conclusion bars it from reaching GOAT territory. I still think it’s a fantastic episode though. When that aired it was like the Infinity War or Doctor Who, and I think if you’re watching the RTD era in order, that episode is always gonna hit so hard.

[@Cyberleader672]

I know Blink is supposed to be a hotake but I'm more surprised by how high Evolution of the Daleks is. The one where the Doctor agrees to help the Daleks turn the bodies of thousands of people they've kidnapped and killed into meatbags for new Daleks. I thought that's one of ten's worst moments. He doesn't show any anger or hesitation after hearing that thousands of people have been killed for this experiment. The first thing he says after hearing about all these victims is pretty much "That can't work. You don't have enough power"

[@concon09090]

"We can solve this problem by blowing up all of the guide dogs!" ... "How are you gonna blow them up?"

[@shortangel333]

to be fair, the people the daleks are experimenting on are American so they are too different.

[@madassassin5465]

They wouldn't be new Daleks but hybrids like Sec.

[@Cyberleader672]

@@madassassin5465 My problem isn't what they're going to become. My problem is what they were. Thousands of people have been kidnapped and killed and the Doctor doesn't care. It would be an improvement if he showed any hesitation but he doesn't he's just immediately on board when he realizes what the plan is

[@bathy94]

I rewatched Blink the other day and I think your critique is actually bang on. Like you say the atmosphere around the episode (and the score) is amazing and I think the angels are a really interesting adversary that were terrifying as fuck when I first watched it (I must have been 11-12 at that time). I also really enjoyed the closing scene with Sally and the Doctor+Martha. However their power/speed level is wildly inconsistent throughout the episode which made the climactic scene with the flashing bulbs all a bit daft. All in all a fun episode that was definitely a welcome change of pace in many ways, but plot-wise not nearly as tight as a lot of other RTD entries in my opinion!

[@Therenegaderoses]

Thanks for making me feel better, just watched end of time part 2 and cried…a lot

[@4203105]

I'd put blink in goat. If your biggest problem is super strong aliens carried the TARDIS it that they might move at different speeds, that is a nearly perfect episode.

[@jack-wulf]

To be honest at least half the reason I like 42 is because it involves a whole lot of David Tennant being very sweaty, in pain, crawling around etc.

[@ionlydressthatway]

“Family of blood nails racism. It’s never been done that well since.”

[@martynstembridge7714]

Yeah, gotta disagree with the world building point .... The RTD era had GREAT world building, and big events were often briefly mentioned again. My favourite was the Dalek cameo in Waters of Mars, where the leader of the base remembers the events that happened in The Stolen Earth.

[@WiloPolis03]

I remember rewatching the Library two parter a couple years back and realizing that was probably my favorite story I've seen in all of DW yet

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Wasn't Daleks in Manhattan resolved by the Doctor channeling his DNA through lightning of all things? Not only is it technobabble resolving the crisis, it's crazy ridiculous technobabble that nobody had any reasonable chance of foreseeing. The Doctor might as well just push a button on his sonic screwdriver to make all the Daleks spontaneously explode if their going to go down that route.

[@Slink1701]

I don't know. The daleks' plan was to channel the dalekanium through lightning into the people. I think it's "reasonable" to think that the doctor getting struck by lightning would mess things up. Obviously it doesn't make scientific sense, but in the context of the setup for the episode it makes sense.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@Slink1701 Or maybe the Doctor should have been fried to death from 1.21 gigawatts coursing through his body. If even that much power can't kill the Doctor, then what's a Dalek death ray supposed to do? The Doctor would be virtually immune to any form of energy attack if he can absorb lightning.

[@bookswithike3256]

@@Edax_Royeaux It's technically not lightning. It just looks like lightning.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@bookswithike3256 The plot synopsis calls it lightning. And it involves a lightning rod. "However, after removing one strip of Dalekanium and a bolt holding another, he drops the sonic screwdriver; all he can do is hug the pole as the lightning strikes. Meanwhile, Martha has made a makeshift lightning rod from spare pipes to divert the lightning into the elevator. The Doctor reveals that, because he hugged the pole as the gamma strike came through, the lightning struck him first and some Time Lord DNA was mixed into the hybrids. This gave the Dalek-humans freedom."

[@willsics7203]

The thing with rtd era as a whole is character is done so well that you somehow ignore these terrible inconsistencies, also I agree with the list if you look at each episode in a vaccum, but imo journeys end is so much higher if you are judging rtds era

[@matthewlacey4198]

You can suspend a little belief during contrivances bc everything else is so good, like the actors in Better Call Saul looking older (bc they are) in that than in Breaking Bad, with BB being set something like 4-6 years after BCS, but the latter being filmed between 2 and 9 years after BB endes

[@ruairicorrigan3582]

Yeah, I agree. The Satan Pit is a fantastic episode, greatly written and such fun themes - but the way the doctor saves everyone is by stumbling into the tardis in a place it really, really shouldn't be. But you ignore it because it's such a solid episode otherwise.

[@cordite7207]

For me atleast I am more forgiving of the RTD era as it had a quirky underfunded national TV feel but I think moving into the Moffat era with the final four Tennant episodes in widescreen HD, subconciously my expectations got higher as it became an international affair with BBC America and better funding.

[@Anthony-pt8ws]

i think you did new earth dirty, i really like it. the cassandra bit was really fun and she got a nice conclusion to her character. the doctor was also really strong too, coming right off his debut episode and gets a lot of good characterization. also, the reason the sick hadn't been cured before was because they weren't patients, they were test subjects. the infected people were the reason the cats had all the medicine in the first place, because they had a research lab with genetically grown subjects infected with every disease. the cure spreading through touch tied in nicely with what we knew about the sick people as well. they were grown in a lab and isolated their entire lives. all they wanted was to reach out and touch people for the first time and the fact that it ends up being the thing to cure them, i think, works well with the themes of the episode.

[@Slink1701]

It does get really annoying when the doctor stands in front of daleks and convinces them not to shoot him by telling them how often he beats them... because they never shoot him.

[@Mooglatan]

9:38 Assumedly they would have realised how many allies he's made and realised the planet would probably get nuked if they killed him. Which is still bs cause then like why even try ever but yk

[@spriteguy4050]

The way I remember new earth ending wasn't the doctor just making a medicine jungle juice he's smart enough to put together a new cure

[@SuperKillJoy15]

22:30 he is also a different species on every planet he goes to, and only looks similar to humans, so he does have a bit of a point with that line

[@aaronsmith9519]

@jay yes the doctor says "but the mind of the beast can escape" and then has the realisation that the mind is on the rocket. i love the satan pit but i think that ending was wrong. the doctor says he believes in rose and then condemns her to the black hole. if he believed in her, he should have stood back and left it to her to defeat toby. rose could've still killed toby. she was already questioning how they escaped even though the beast could've 'sucked out the oxygen'. plus it would've given a darker side to her character that she basically kills someone without proof because the beast would've stayed quiet within toby if not for the doctor

[@madassassin5465]

I think that line was about he believe that she'll somehow survive, he has no reason to think that when essentially condemming her to a blackhole but that's where the faith part comes in.

[@aaronsmith9519]

@@madassassin5465 I see what you mean, but I think it'd would make more sense for him to say it in the sense that he believes that Rose could defeat the mind of the beast rather than she'd...overcome a black hole

[@kjmmxii123]

How did the Vashta Nerada even read up on the Doctor? They don't even have fingers with which to leaf through the pages. Or eyes? Maybe they just have really small eyes, I don't know.

[@mrdr0161]

Theyre a hive mind. And they live in the books. They would've gotten other swarms to read about him

[@aaronsmith9519]

journey's end's ending would've been better if they'd shown that davros had built the machine donna uses so that he could kill the daleks if they turned on him and kept it hidden from the daleks the stolen earth is GOAT

[@matthewlacey4198]

That would've been an amazing rewrite, perfect example of Chekov's gun, set it up earlier during a Doctor/Davros interaction, we know he was paranoid and insane, so showing this Dalek killing device early on would be in character for Davros, and setting it up earlier would've been great

[@thewhocritic]

Thanks for using my template Jay. I love making tier list templates especially when youtubers I admire make videos with them 😊

[@nightowl8477]

43:23 Martha literally, completely calmly, says _"Extraterrestrial"_ when asked what she thinks is going on in Smith and Jones. She then cites, among other big events, The Christmas Invasion. If RTD _didn't_ acknowledge continuity, Martha would take a completely different attitude. It changes the world, and her as a character. Also spawning off characters like Wilf and Donna, and allowing plot beats such as Saxon's campaign promises. I like that. But that isn't a necessity. Continuity - or "" world building "" - tends to hold franchise stories like Doctor Who back more than it allows for expansion. Do we really want 2018's Yazmin Kahn referencing 2006's The Christmas Invasion? If you're writing a spiritual, thematic, or even literal sequel to that story, then sure! There's no rule saying you can't do that. Equally, there shouldn't be a rule saying you have to do that.

[@nightowl8477]

Turn Left is literally this.

[@Drakkona123]

Theme is an incredibly powerful tool at a writer's disposal, but it can't supersede worldbuilding in the work it's presented in or it just comes off as silly and preachy. I mention this because, yes, Earth in Doctor Who is and has been the same Earth for 60 years of our time, and we're at the point where you can't exactly have your characters ignore extraterrestrial events that have happened over the course of the show any longer. Especially when they all seem to take place in the UK by some twist of fate (mostly kidding ofc).

[@nightowl8477]

@@Drakkona123 - 1) who cares? 2) The crack in time is a blanket excuse that works for anyone who does care about the continuity. Or Russell's "poisining the water with retcon" thing.

[@Ashpolt]

This video should really be titled "Ranking Every 10th Doctor Episode from Most Good to Fear Her"

[@Mayeur000Donz]

It's been a LONG time since I watched Army of Ghosts but I recall the whole thing about humanity thinking their deceased loved ones were back is kind of just forgotten? Like, yeah it's important to address that a lot of people died in th Canary Wharf event, but I think they opened with a more interested and unique emotional crutch that just sorta never gets resolved? You just have to "assume" humanity got over that part.

[@spriteguy4050]

"42 is a very well constructed story" ok how does it end?

[@waapfu]

rewatched blink somewhat recently and it's an extremely nothing episode. the characters are too caught up in the plot to really be their own people and the whole episode dangles this mystery over your head that makes no sense and then you find out it's all put together with a shitty bootstrap paradox (distinct from normal and ok bootstrap paradoxes in that it feels more contrived). the extremely scary monsters that fucked up a lot of children were well done in that regard, and the solution at the end of them being in a circle solved the problem of "there are terrifying creatures impossible to beat just roaming about the place destroying lives and having major historical consequences" while leaving them open to becoming a threat in the future by getting moved. except that's followed up with a weird outro implying that there are weeping angels all over the world waiting to get you and you gotta watch out. which means that's just. not dealt with. the handling of the weeping angels all the way through blink is emblematic of a long-running issue in doctor who, where the tension is built up by presenting a threat that you can't possibly imagine a way of defeating, and then it's revealed that that's because the writers also didn't have a plan for getting out of that one, and the threat kinda just fucks off when they get bored of it.

[@TemplarWarden]

Your comments on the Rise of the Cybermen makes me realise why all I don't understand anything about them since I never saw any more of it

[@KYCDK]

i have a theory that the valyard is the metacrisis doctor the valyard is supposedly around the 11th regeneration (i think you can see where im going) counting the war doctor, that means that the 10th doctor is actually the 11th doctor, but even if you don't want to count that, it still works because techniaclly his 11th regeneration led to the metacrisis maybe somehow the metacrisis becomes timelord again, im not sure

[@TheYoungDoctor]

There is a comic story called The Forgotten where the villain takes on the form of the Meta-Crisis Doctor but calls himself the Valeyard.

[@lydiarodgers]

this ranking is certainly… something

[@carrot708]

I want some time to pass, and then I want the Valeyard to take Passenger to the Arc of Infinity, let the Flux back out (but it's contained because the Arc contains antimatter), and then threaten to de-compress it, replacing a now-healing universe with the old one. But he then gives The Doctor the remote and they have to make the choice; restore the Universe that was destroyed because of their past, which would in turn destroy everyone who was making a new start. Or leave them in the Flux. That's an interesting moral conundrum imo

[@artyb27]

Love the rant at 31:20 about inconsistent world building on modern-day earth, especially post-Miracle Day. Like that's something the human companions would never mention.

[@gabriellorvan4490]

You're making me want to go back and rewatch everything again. Curse you, Jay

[@mimiHTcat]

gridlock should be higher

[@EthanDJC]

i was literally searching for a video like this like 2 days ago thank you milk

[@Cantthinkofaname420]

If I said my opinion on Doctor Who episodes I would get cancelled out of Twitter

[@ARC--5973]

Man, i wish you some day do a full breakdown of Impossible Planet & Satan Pit. Such an incredible story that gets lost in the mediocre/bad episodes of series 2

[@thesplund7107]

I think while journeys end has a really bad resolution (as in how they beat the daleks) I don't think the ending is as damaging as last of the timelords one. we've got great davros and doctor interactions, beautifully tragic end to donna and some really good character stuff with ten that focus on the doctors attitude towards his companions throughout the entire show, but I will say dalek killing buttons and metacrisis doctor are still really weird story beats

[@alecbormia4523]

Jay that's actually not true that army of ghosts is mentioned again... well kinda. It is actually mentioned in Season five multiple times and serves as a big plot point of that season. When Amy and 11 encounter a Dalek in the episode with Winston Churchill the doctor talks to Amy as if she's seen them before, and is surprised when she has no recollection of them. He even talks about the events of that episode dumbfounded that she doesn't remember it. There is an actual reason for this given in the season which is that it's the crack in her wall that affected her memory of such events, although you do raise a good point in that this sort of justification isn't done for any of the other companions. But also RTD himself had this problem in his version of Doctor Who. Now I've never really watched Old Who but something that baffled me when watching season 1 was that the people on earth acted like they've never seen aliens before. Quite literally in the slytheen episode when the spaceship crash lands in London RTD makes a specific point to mention that this is Earth's first encounter with alien life, and then these encounters lead to Harriet Jones getting elected and blowing up the aliens in The Christmas Invasion. This whole idea confused the hell out of me because surely in Old Who there have been attacks on earth before? Surely that one episode with the 9TH doctor couldn't be the first time there's been some kind of invasion of Earth? Honestly with the way Moffat did it after Amy it didn't bother me a ton because it's fun to experience all these new things through the new companion's eyes and aside from Amy it's never pointed out that they should have seen these things before, but RTD explicitly makes it clear that the humans have all completely forgot the times they've had aliens invade earth in the past.

[@pundahandz7403]

Both the ghosts and sycorax ship get mentioned by Elton lmao, but yea other than that everyone's just forgotten bout aliens.

[@pundahandz7403]

Just finished the video, comment redacted

[@LaurenceGill2000]

I honestly really don't want the show to reference all the alien invasions etc that happen in past episodes and have them inform characters in future. I like the current system, less complex and easier for new viewers, also the proposed system surely can't really sustain over decades of the show? I like how every alien invasion story can be taken in a vaccuum of a present day earth, as long as the characters we care about learn and grow and develop across their time on the show, I don't really want the general public to/ have new characters introduced with that baggage.

[@fruitchewx127]

I think, when judging Doctor Who, it is important to consider suspension of disbelief. Especially for very enjoyable episodes such as Blink, it is very easy for me to suspend disbelief when the plot becomes less sensical.

[@madassassin5465]

He doesn't even criticise it.

[@greghawkins59]

Glad to see someone standing up for 42, daleks in manhatten and planet of death they're massive over hated

[@nightowl8477]

45:00 Jay, it's a gag. Fuck me.

[@nightshade807]

Blink- ok I think part of my soul has just died :(

[@alextee3727]

Idiots lantern used to scare me as a kid

[@verv5737]

I accept your arguments of why the Lumic cyber controller was bad Jay, but consider the following. The toy of him on the throne was cool.

[@francisariwaodo318]

I'm watching Doctor Who for the first time and I'm just about finishing each Doctor's tenure in time for your weekly rankings

[@ryanzerda]

I literally just finished Idiots Lantern and yeah it's okay, as always some good character stuff but I feel the acting from the extras is especially off and I don't like the implications of some of the themes such as the whole TV rotting your brain thing as well as looking out for shitty abusive family members. Plus The Wire is just on the wrong side of goofy for me and I can't take her seriously when she shouts her catchphrases

[@phantomsidious2934]

My favorite tenth doctor episode's: Human Nature two parter, waters of mars, Master trilogy, end of time

[@LiveHedgehog]

I know they wanted a big emotional ending, but I've realised a bit of a plot contrivance; The TARDIS didn't get sucked into the void. It just stayed where it was in the Torchwood tower. So couldn't Rose and her family have just hid in the TARDIS while the Doctor sent the Daleks and Cybermen into the void?

[@KYCDK]

youre forgetting that satans mind was in one of the crew, waiting for the rocket to go, he would have released satan

[@nebulonicc]

31:30 sounds like someone hasn't watched torchwood-- which, understandable because it is kind of a shitshow-- but captain jack mentions VERBATIM that there were "ghosts" around for six months but nobody talks about them, to which the torchwood team is like "yeah you're right I don't remember that shit". so i mean, it is mentioned, in the doctor who universe, but not necessarily in doctor who itself. the continuity is there but also there is still zero explanation for it other than "lol human bad memory" which honestly I guess could make sense because we do forget massive world events from time to time.

[@michaelwalsh5991]

Jay really did drop one of the biggest new who takes (blink) and almost immediately moved on

[@moncystuff6089]

Watching this would be more fun if i remembered any of the episode names.

[@jamiex5842]

Blink is ok? O.O It's interesting you go thru the logic of the story for this episode specifically but not for others in the GOAT list

[@insekki]

Blink is the only episode of modern Dr. Who I’ve seen. I thought it was great. Really enjoyed the creature design and atmosphere, and I’ve always had a soft spot for Carey Mulligan.

[@jakeclough8090]

If it’s the only episode you’ve seen, why are you watching this tier list lol. Stop watching this and go and watch the actual episodes, they’re mostly amazing

[@insekki]

@@jakeclough8090 I just enjoy jays videos and this was a perfect thing to put in in the background while I work. I probably would enjoy them by the sound of it just never got around to them. Tv has always been my least favourite medium, originally due to the restrictions of scheduling and adverts. Even though they are no longer factors old habits die hard and TV is still the medium I engage with least.

[@4203105]

I mean to be fair, Moffat erased all the memories of aliens with his rifts in spacetime. So 20 years from those events, nobody remembers.

[@BonnieFluff]

Thank you for your thoughts, Monkey D. Luffy from famed tv show One Piece.

[@RJA]

Agree with all the Goat picks but blink should be top of the fantastic tier imo as well as rise of the cybermen.

[@CroftCrazy31]

Ursula the Pathing Slab and 'Me' immortal crossover when?

[@Tom-xt1jn]

Ooo - I know I'm going to hate this video because 3 minutes in and Jay's already said they hate one of my favourite episodes (a Christmas Charol)

[@MisterTTG]

"I read Gridlock as something else..." ahh, the transfemme experience

[@doctorlolchicken7478]

I agreed with most of the rankings. Blink felt like that thing people do where they take something everyone says is the best, or the worst, and change that assessment just to be different. I don’t think it should be GOAT, but there’s no doubting it is a very effective story compared to most others. You can nitpick plot holes with any story but it has to be even, you can’t be more or less forgiving because a story is very popular. It’s certainly not as good on repeat viewings, I still think it’s no worse than good though.

[@ashdargon8545]

the lady christina big finish is very good honestly, series 1 anyway i havent listened to series 2.

[@Charlie-zk5vj]

finally someone who's right about blink

[@brisklloydavator]

i would fucking HATE nph to be the valeyard because its the (6)0th thats so laaaaame

[@bennet8388]

I think the concept of LINDA was very interesting just what they did with it wasn't great. But I do think Elton is one of the most fun characters in 10's run, both of these things would lift it above bad for me. (Possibly also influenced by the fact I love Marc Warren's acting and thought he was great in it)

[@madassassin5465]

I dare you to name one objectively bad thing about Love and Monsters

[@michaelm5542]

@@madassassin5465Peter Kay’s casting being a supposedly terrifying threat and eating people.

[@madassassin5465]

@@michaelm5542 I thought it was terrifying so checkmate.

[@michaelm5542]

@@madassassin5465 I could only see Peter Kay - anyway I thought you said objective? Nothing is objective.

[@madassassin5465]

@@michaelm5542 Yes there is. For instance the statement by the Doctor claiming he could never see Amy again is objectively wrong since Amy can simply leave New York or the Doctor travel there by means other than the Tardis. This is true regardless of anyone's subjective feelings.

[@greghawkins59]

A few plotholes doesn't justify blink being that low down

[@katdeasyy]

I know what you misread gridlock as

[@tomjames9681]

Oh my god, Blink being okay might be Jay’s most nuclear take to date. Honestly, the case made for why isn’t at all bad, I could be convinced.

[@NitroIndigo]

Are the vashta nerada even sentient? I got the impression from the episodes that they were just hungry microbes.

[@titularhero]

Planet of the dead is OK but it did always seem strange not to have an episode right after waters of Mars instead

[@shortangel333]

imagine waters of mars but the doctor just shows up and is like "happy easter!!" that would have ruined the entire episode.

[@jabt2023]

I am autistic and this stream was ruined for me by constant loud slurping and drinking

[@myss1102]

i just moved over to 11th doctor, im a newbie to the series its interesting hearing that cybermen were originally very different, because while watching the cybermen stuff i kept on thinking, this just dalek, but weaker on individual level, but more of them, but it a dalek but what im really confused is jays instant putting lazarus experiment in bad while debating on shakespere for a while actually after watching the shakespere code i took a break from the series for few months, because i felt like it was so bad and boring and waste of my time. im not joking lazarus experiment was just there, and it also foreshadowed the season finale which i was very intrigued by

[@ginge641]

Not to mention how The Shakespeare Code briefly talks about a much more interesting phase of Shakespeare's life, after the death of his son, and then just keeps on going with it's cringe monster-of-the-week narrative that does fuck all with Shakespeare as a character. We could've easily gotten something like Vincent and the Doctor out of that, I reckon.

[@donutdog1937]

Honestly didn’t watch the newest season watched the first episode of it and just felt completely drained

[@JRHainsworth]

Talked about the cringe in The Shakespeare Code but didn't mention "Good ol' JK!"

[@algaenthusiast]

11th Doctor ranking when?

[@robindavda8967]

ur gonna have to do a 5 hour video essay about why u don't like blink before I believe you

[@shortangel333]

Blink is good if you ignore all its problems.

[@robindavda8967]

@@shortangel333 i don't think it's amazing sure cos i'm not a huge moffet fan but i still like blink

[@KevinM491]

i think planet of the dead is good as well. really like the cast of characters

[@KevinM491]

its like a cheap non-horror version of Midnight.

[@tarponpet]

The Classic show barely used the cybermen well, atleast Tom Baker onwards. I feel the modern cybermen are much better than how they were handled there.

[@HugoGojibiter]

So what happened to the rest of this?

[@LiamPlaysGame]

nice hat, seriously

[@yack916]

What is this E.D.A. concerning Blink you were talking about? I strongly disagree with your placement of the story, but I find your arguments interesting and would love to hear them elaborated on more 😅

[@genesisofandrozani7313]

EDAR* Its on my channel

[@yack916]

@@genesisofandrozani7313 thanks!

[@yack916]

@@genesisofandrozani7313 do you happen to have a timestamp for the part Jay is talking about? 🙈

[@aldraone-mu5yg]

The problem with characters going to less tolerant times could be fixed simply by saying that the Tardis provides a perception filter, so that nobody really notices. Not unlike how they all can speak the local language. This would be useful if you didn’t want the episode to have a racial focus.

[@AsperTheGhost]

I think Jay is right on Blink. I really like the filmmaking and atmosphere of the episode. The fact that the Angels never move when the viewer themselves has eyes on them, is a very good way of getting the audience invested and relating with the emotions of the characters. It adds to the dread and horror of the monster. However, I think even this ruins the episode's concept more. So you mean to tell me Doctor Who is now breaking the fourth wall to let me, the viewer, interact with the story? None of the in-universe characters can see the Angels, yet they are stuck still because YOU AT HOME are now part of the story. It's a neat concept but it's definitely a head-scratcher the more you think about it.

[@joearrowsmith6813]

imagine ranking voyage of the damned above the christmas invasion. L

[@MyNameIsExci]

it is better

[@ginge641]

I don't like it either, but The Christmas Invasion does an awful job of introducing 10, especially next to how the very next Doctor's first episode goes.

[@omniboredom6410]

the angels didnt take the box the towing people did

[@mrdr0161]

What? So a towing company for some reason towed the tardis back to the house and somehow got it into the basement?

[@omniboredom6410]

@@mrdr0161 it was in the basement of the police precinct or what ever that place is, if you were paying attention the police had picked up a many number of vehicles left outside that house, so they inevitably saw a police box there and decided to bring it back to the precinct as well

[@mrdr0161]

@@omniboredom6410 thats not what Jay was talking about. How did the angels get the tardis from the police station back to the house basement?

[@4203105]

What is your problem with time travel in blink?