if i had a nickle for every time team cherry dedicated a super cool looking and lore deep area to a charm that nobody will probably use, i would be able to afford a can of soda.
@David-k6j7n3 ай бұрын
Spell Twister not being S is mad
@josephc83125 ай бұрын
18:25 If you get hit right as you’re almost done focusing, you will actually still heal. It doesn’t show that you healed, which is probably just a glitch, but you might notice next time you get hit you don’t actually lose any masks, meaning that you had an extra one that just wasn’t showing for some reason. I’m not sure if this was intended, but it’s really useful. Also it might only be on the switch version of the game.
@Vegathron5 ай бұрын
really? thats very interesting, didn't know about that little quirk!
@amethyst_of_light10 ай бұрын
Man, you did gathering swarm DIRTY... Whenever I'm exploring, I used it (and dash master) simply because it's so cheap, in the early-mid game you won't have as many notches or charms to make good use of them. You also need a lot of geo for many things, whether it be for buying notches or charms from salubra or sly, upgrading the nail, or making unbreakable charms, gathering swarm makes it just that bit less tedious.
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Feel free to go and vote on the live tier list in the pinned comment (and particularly do gathering swarm justice in your eyes!) I will be comparing community list to my own in a later video!
@shadowreaperbg775910 ай бұрын
Hey you are a real one for not giving the compass meme ranking
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
This is strictly a no meme zone! 🤣
@kokomagdy67178 ай бұрын
@@Vegathron HOW DID I MISS THIS?! WHAT?! I am so sorry to miss this!😭😢😓
@Vegathron8 ай бұрын
@@kokomagdy6717 aha no worries its a busy time of year!
@kokomagdy67178 ай бұрын
@@Vegathron thank you 😁😂
@D.S695 ай бұрын
compass == s tier
@MaskerHollowKnight10 ай бұрын
yes, a new vegathron video! let's go man, you are so underrated
@HyperVortex2210 ай бұрын
You are underrated too
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Thanks Masker! I also look forward to your next vid!
@MaskerHollowKnight10 ай бұрын
@@Vegathron i also really like the png of you with different expressions, its epic!
@Roid3310 ай бұрын
One of your favourite charm setups includes.. SHARP SHADOW!? And you placed it in A Tier! (Also thanks for the mention) 9.99/10 video. Love the use of the You in the corner with the various poses too, so that's why you changed the channel pic! And the gameplay to keep the viewer retention is a neat little trick too
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Haha yes couldn't mention sharp shadow without also mentioning the resident sharp shadow enthusiast XD glad you enjoyed!
@Kayta-Linda5 ай бұрын
Sharp Shadow ftw! :D
@Roid335 ай бұрын
@@Kayta-Linda Yeahhh!
@luckyluke318138 ай бұрын
I love that hegemol is a charm in the thumbnail.
@Vegathron8 ай бұрын
One of these things is not like the others... XD
@chrisrock38475 ай бұрын
Sprint master and wever song +grub song = what kings soul want's to be Sprint master makes them more aggressive and faster just wanted to clear that up
@renatofreitas876910 ай бұрын
This chanel is so underrated. I'm sure He will have many subscribers
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Take part and have your say in the community charm tier list here: live.tiermaker.com/375835 (seriously, do it, I want to compare my list with yours!) p.s. please consider liking and subbing to please the algorithm gods if you enjoyed the vid! kthnx~
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Ok folks why are there more S tier charms than other tiers yall giving those S' away like candy! 🤣
@shadowreaperbg775910 ай бұрын
@@Vegathronbecause there are just that many good charms in hollow knight
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
@@shadowreaperbg7759 haha I wish I had you guys marking my homework when I was in school =P
@tompi2.07723 күн бұрын
I cant understand why Joni's Blessing, Deep Focus and Glowing Womb are above Soul Catcher
@RedLight_Chill10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tag Brother 🙏 Watching the video right now, very interesting opinion about charms. I really like a "passive" damage build but as you know each boss fight requires a different approach. Still great video 👊
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Hey thanks again for allowing me to use that music. I am still racking up watches listening to it on your channel! very underrated.
@RedLight_Chill10 ай бұрын
@@Vegathron thanks buddy, I do appreciate it a lot 🙏 Also I really like your content and I think that's a perfect match heheh
@thesandalguy222 ай бұрын
Skurry would murder you if he saw you put deamshield in the same tier nailmaster's glory and fury
@ThatDumbChannel4 ай бұрын
12:54 MARMUU!!!?? / MOSS CHARGER RADIANT??!!
@josephc83125 ай бұрын
13:00 Furious vengefies. Heavy blow is so useful for keeping those annoying things away. The charm still isn’t that great though since fighting furious vengeflies is the only use it has.
@David-k6j7n2 ай бұрын
@@josephc8312 it is not the only use it has, you clearly aren't that knowledgeable
@allbeansedits2 ай бұрын
@@David-k6j7nyes it is
@TameemAltalhi5 ай бұрын
13:27 ESPINAS GO BRRRRR
@Vegathron5 ай бұрын
Took me a second to remember I put monster hunter footage in this XD
@HollowMythology-eu7hz3 ай бұрын
vegathron "Buldar shell is bad" Any radiance runners "Attack!"
@luccadeahl5340Ай бұрын
I rarely use steady body without quick slash, with normal attack speed you have time to readjust to recoil
@eGG_Kn1ght10 ай бұрын
Thk you for actually giving a good rating for steady body❤. A lot of mfs say just hold forward and they don’t realise how powerful it is unless they actually give it a chance, like go beat NKG, PV, No eyes, markoth, Oro & Mato with steady body and see the difference. I would’ve put it in S tier myself. Btw nice editing (:
@higashikata_gappy10 ай бұрын
Very good video
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! :)
@eGG_Kn1ght10 ай бұрын
Nailmaster’s glory is one of the best charms in the game especially you can use cyclone slash as a quick slash replacement.
@ryanahmadi79999 ай бұрын
Yes,and for certain bosses like NKG, it is a must-have to let you easily double your damage
@eGG_Kn1ght9 ай бұрын
@@ryanahmadi7999 True, and it’s very consistent with flying bosses.
@StraightCurve2Ай бұрын
the only time heavy blow is ever useful is in ONE challenge run, which is Clawless.
@TheShady55553 ай бұрын
Ngl, best tier list yet
@Vegathron3 ай бұрын
my dude! 💪
@allbeansedits2 ай бұрын
Quick slash > strength They’re both amazing for nail builds Quick slash also makes you gain more soul as your getting more hits
@lobsterlunchbox758121 күн бұрын
Grubberfly's elegy is really good for radiant markoth
@chrissmith64553 ай бұрын
Just as an FYI you may be right about gruberfly's but with fury of the fallen it comes back last mask a gets the fotf buffs
@Sharohsadow10 ай бұрын
here is my angry opinion on a subjective list made for fun because I love elitism alright it's elitism time, yay! flukiness is S tier. I think you could argue that it is the best charm in the game (with strength, qslash and shaman). I know the speedkills take time to learn and it's kinda annoying but MAN this kill so many bosses they can even attack! not to mention you can multi kill gorgeous husk multiple times with it to gain some sweet sweet cash money mulah! elitism part 2: sharp shadow A tier surprised me tbh. I do think it's the must fun charm in the game by far (hence yt acc name) but it's really not good at all, most of time you want to jump over the boss and pogo on it instead of dashing through. especially considering that spell twister has the same cost and is in the same tier counter elitism: qfocus in A tier is great :grubomg: nah but like fr good players tend to put it in C or lower cuz why using it but it's a great charm for beginners or for less agressive players elitism part 3: Joni's should have it's own tier "harmful". seriously, it's the only charm that actively makes the game harder in every way possible. it requires way too much notches to be relevant and when you could use shaman strength or qslash instead...
@Sharohsadow10 ай бұрын
also steady body is an insane charm it makes the best charm in the game even better ( even if you have to ditch soul twister for it :( )
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
I can absolutely see why you would put flukenest in S. One of the tricky things with "general" tier lists is trying to balance it out for all playstyles - and I think for the average noob who doesnt know how to abuse it, its not that great. decent but not great - and hence I averaged it out a bit. It would be interesting to do a tier list from the perspective of a high skill player only - not that I'd have much experience with that XD
@Michael-ex5lj10 ай бұрын
imo sharp shadow is pretty useless in this game but W
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
I just love how it trivializes certain phases of bosses and lets me deal an extra hit fairly often. to be fair I use it to sort of cheese certain boss moves instead of learning them properly XD
@herxantpl61838 ай бұрын
Me when steady body gets A tier:
@YouTubeSam20134 ай бұрын
A reason I think soul eater should be higher is it is the one reason I can consistently beat nightmare king grimm
@shadowreaperbg775910 ай бұрын
I'm happy with where you put steady body thou I'd put it in S. And heavy blow is good for bosses the stagger shorting is visiblem
@just_a_Leg5 ай бұрын
Let's be serious, we all know wayward compass is S-tier
@nerfjanetreal3 ай бұрын
22:00 resting grounds + subnautica lol
@graydongames465010 ай бұрын
can you do a nightmare spark showcase next?
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
I shall look into it!
@fraserwiebe71775 ай бұрын
i do think some of the rankings are off but overall its very good
@shadowreaperbg775910 ай бұрын
Dash master let's you use dash slash downwards but the slash is steel forward so you can do the shal with the longest range without moving. In a way dash master createds a 4th nail art.
@sans_sans_sans_sans-Ėřřøř7 ай бұрын
I’m sad fluke isn’t used as much as it should but I understand bc it has a low range
@tempered-geography6 ай бұрын
But heavy blow is required for clawless hollow knight!!!!! I can’t believe you didn’t think of that…
@ardynizunia970910 ай бұрын
Longnail + Mark of Pride + Unbreakable strength is what I did everything in the game with lol. The other 3 notches were flexible. Although most of the time they were the compass, the one that picks up geo for me and the one that gives me soul on getting hit. Because that is the ultimate convenience combo for just exploring the map. Anyways, MAXIMUM RANGE with MAXIMUM DAMAGE is just the smoothest experience honestly. For Godhome I slapped on quickslash with my remaining 3 notches and I loved it. A rapid fire, high damage, high range melee machine gun basically. And because of the high range, I can often spamm close to a boss and get off loads of damage without pushing myself out of range within that damage window, while keeping the flexibility of the additional range to enable damage windows that I otherwise couldn't take. Double range charms every day.
@herxantpl61838 ай бұрын
'maximum damage' *Fury of the fallen moment*
@ardynizunia97098 ай бұрын
@@herxantpl6183 Alright, maximum BASE damage, as in, no conditions attached.
@herxantpl61838 ай бұрын
@@ardynizunia9709 so strength is BASE damage?
@ardynizunia97098 ай бұрын
@@herxantpl6183 Bro what are we arguing? I defined it as damage I have without conditions needing to be fulfilled, like fury of the fallen only being active on one HP. If you wanna discuss anything, how about saying anything to add to the convo instead of just saying useless stuff I literally already answered, guess reading comprehension is hard.
@herxantpl61838 ай бұрын
@@ardynizunia9709 charm being worn=acceptable condition Having health: unacceptanle condition
@use-rmro4 ай бұрын
Ok, what the fuck are these other charms? I have never seen these before, like the shade charm and the white defenders crest or some shit. They seem op
@liefengrattan38027 ай бұрын
Dreamshield is definitely good it’s just that 3 notches? It’s a bit overpriced I would say like 2 notches
@liefengrattan38025 ай бұрын
can u understand english
@osobatalentu694410 ай бұрын
I really disagree with Carefree Melody placement, because this is not just a "more health charm", but more like "better health charm". It gets better the more you heal and the more health you have. You said that player can manipulate this to get better chances to block dmg, but it is also doing this by its own, it don't resets chances after death and the only 2 ways to reset chances are to exit the game or when it block the incoming dmg. So when you want to beat like traitor lord and he beats you and you again to him, you have bigger chances to block dmg. And still I didn't mention that this charm block dmg, meaning that if you get hit by hit that would deal 7 dmg and it blocks it, you don't get any dmg, not like the other health charms. It also works on radiant fights because of that and it is good for pantheons and trails. So I would put it in A tier with charms like quick focus. Also I don't know how glowing womb would be C tier by it's own. It deals less dps than grimmchild lv.2, it disappers when using fast travels stealing your soul, it have knowback making fights more random, it interupts healing and many many more. F tier
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
Ah yes I admit carefree does become good the more you heal. I mathed it out and it's worth like 1 mask per 4.5 you lose or something. Thing is it's rare a fight goes on that long, therefore it not a huge impact in most play. As for glowing womb, as I mentioned in the vid it's only that high because king's honour synergy gives it busted DMG. Otherwise it would be a lot lower - probably low C tier or D tier tbh. Interesting too hear your thoughts though thanks for sharing and be sure to vote on the community tier list pinned!
@xipher58962 ай бұрын
@@Vegathron Long fights without benches are not rare if you do pantheons. It has probably saved me 3 - 5 masks per pantheon between benches, mainly because of bosses that do double damage. When doing p5, because of double damage bosses, assuming you take the same amount of hits from every boss you will save around 1/4 masks per hit you take. and when playing against only double damage bosses, it is worth 2 masks per 5 hits. So 1 mask per 4.5 hits vs only 1 damage bosses, 1 mask per 4 hits in p5*, and 1 mask per 2.5 hits vs only 2 damage per hit bosses.
@yamyam40505 ай бұрын
Was raised with pineapple on pizza, it keeps the pizza less dry tbh and I think that truly depends on the toppings
@Skivv5Ай бұрын
Only problem with this video is that you even bothered to put glowing womb on the list. It's arguably worse than heavy blow in some scenarios.
@VegathronАй бұрын
For sure, its only saving grace is pale court makes it pretty good - but if you don't count that since its a mod (which is fair), then yeah its TRASH XD
@Skivv5Ай бұрын
@@Vegathron yeah i don't usually play with mods so I'm accustomed to the ABOMINATION that the normal version is.
@vsx3031Ай бұрын
nice
@fireplayz47356 ай бұрын
bruh compass is S++ tier..
@shadowreaperbg775910 ай бұрын
Will you make a video about the community ranking
@Vegathron10 ай бұрын
That is the plan:)
@fatih66376 ай бұрын
Soooo you put compass in b tier. PICK A GOD AND START PRAYING
@Vegathron6 ай бұрын
🤣
@mimimachka18 ай бұрын
im sorry but i can't play the game without dashmaster i became wayyyy to used to it so i just can't take it off
@Jonas-hh3cl2 ай бұрын
Tbh, abyssal bloom is way too overpowered. And combined with jonis blessing takes all the fun away from bossfights
@nmraven-gx9gt5 ай бұрын
Most of my main build is d teir or lower.......
@Vegathron5 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with playing a style you enjoy! If things are still dying and you aren't, well thats the main thing!
@averageterrarian10 ай бұрын
Second
@nathanrosborough34856 ай бұрын
Okay, look at the whole of B-tier. And then look me straight in the eyes and tell me that any of those other than compass and maybe boon of hallownest are better than Dash/Sprintmaster. THEN also tell me that everyone likes grubsong better than steady body. You're actually capping bro. Underrated tho I do enjoy watching ur vids