The next book isn't out because Martin's struggling to find enough pages to kill every Frey
@iamsheelАй бұрын
There's no reason to kill EVERY Frey
@fmgmackАй бұрын
@@iamsheelLady Stoneheart disagrees 😂
@Hippo_HegemonyАй бұрын
@@iamsheel There are Frey's reason enough.
@pieterhofkens7259Ай бұрын
@@Hippo_Hegemony this comment had me dying. I will use it from now on
@chaos_knight_xyАй бұрын
I'm so glad Lothar Frey, and Black Walder Frey are in S tier, although I wish Walder Rivers was in S tier for roasting Robb Stark. saying "My grandfather has come to mislike lengthy betrothals, I can't imagine why?"
@notdeadjustyet8136Ай бұрын
Best line ever❤
@deKahedronАй бұрын
Ice and Fire workout: 100 reps of lifting the ASoIaF box set. 5 minutes of shadow-boxing Maegor apologists. Deliver 5 messages between Riverrun and King's Landing. Then rank Freys until freylure.
@samuelwolch1302Ай бұрын
1:14:03 the reason I think this is the case is because the Night’s Watch unlike the other options doesn’t come with any sort of influence to it. The Septons hold religious power, the Maesters are in the households of every noble family in the region with a whole library of knowledge. The Night’s Watch are trapped in one of the coldest environments around with no real influence
@arvaakuka8568Ай бұрын
You can make that argument but at the same time, what's the alternative for the hundreds of Freys that exist? If you don't inherit a castle, there's only so many mouths that your lord relative is willing to feed. Your options for working outside the household are knight, septon, maester, or the Night's Watch. That's really it. Seeing as the Night's Watch doesn't really require any training unlike the other three, and with a background in a noble house you're very likely to advance fast within the organization (look at Jon Snow, Janos Slynt and Waymar Royce) the NW is a dream job for Freys who are lower down the line of succession. Sure it's cold up there but is that really worse than celibacy, living as an outlaw or risking your life as a professional soldier? (Sure, the NW are technically professional soldiers too but as we see most of the job positions like builders and stewards actually have nothing to do with combat).
@writingwyvern6065Ай бұрын
I just want the Essos Freys to live a long and happy life, is that so much to ask? Their basically college students, that and dnd classes, so they need to survive.
@dinisnascimento4929Ай бұрын
Does anyone think that Walder told Jared Frey Rob turned into a werewold and killed his son and Wyman's and Jared just honest to god fucking believed it, a true honorable knight
@ile.spirkoskiАй бұрын
Doesn't "the werewolf" imply Sandor wearing his dog helm, cuz he kills couple of people during the wedding, or am I mistaken?
@aegorbittersteel2154Ай бұрын
This was GLORIOUS!!!!!!!! Congratulations on completing your magnum opus. I really wish you could work out some deal with GRRM to sell stuff with your character designs.I would buy all the Freys and Blackfyres even if it would definitely bankrupt me😄
@RmsOceanicАй бұрын
Of the Pie Freys, I think Jared deserves to be Weasel tier. If you tilt your head and squint, you can acknowledge that Walder Frey had a grievance with Robb Stark, that Robb did indeed break faith after Walder agreed to stick his neck out for him. Where most people in Westeros and in the fandom take issue is how he pursued that grievance. Walder would be expected to pursue his quarrel on the battlefield, or perhaps appeal to the King's Justice. The Rat Cook teaches us that a man has a right to vengeance, but it also teaches us how utterly vile it is to engage in perfidy like breaking guest right, and Westeros generally agrees with this given how the Freys are regarded in Feast and Dance. So the best defence the Freys have, the one attempted by Merret before he looked into eyes of hatred, are that Robb acted in bad faith and dishonoured Walder. Is it a weak excuse? Absolutely, especially that it absolutely was not a crime of passion with all the planning involved, but it's their best shot. So Jared struts into White Harbour and claims Robb attacked the Freys at the wedding, adding the (slightly less given skinchanging) ridiculous facet that Robb turned into a wolf. Even setting aside the additional lies he tells Wyman about his own son's death, that he relies on such claims means he has no faith "Robb dishonoured us" will be believed - which, fair - but in effect is repudiating the only defense the Freys have for breaking guestright. With that veneer of a defense abandoned, the Red Wedding is revealed in Jared's mind for what it ultimately is, an act of spiteful opportunism, and thus there is no excuse that the average Westerosi will accept. And given how it's only hostages and Lannister strength backing the Freys up in the Riverlands, and that strength got squandered by Cersei's petty scheming, they will see their spite paid back in full. So yeah, he's an outright weasel.
@thelastgreyjoy8555Ай бұрын
I think edwyn dies in a mocking gesture of how hoster tully instead of how the black fish gently held his brother's hand reminiscing of the past it's black Walder gutting his brother cursing him telling him that his daughter and his other brother's daughter is his
@Hippo_HegemonyАй бұрын
How dare this man put the Harlot Fair walda on S with Jingle Bell
@exarch2199Ай бұрын
1:35:35 Clearly Tytos thought Arya was a Crannogman and could not suffer her to live
@LaMorenitaDivinaАй бұрын
So glad I found your channel in time for Freyfest.
@BatFlash52Ай бұрын
Congrats on completing your magnum opus Lord Haven. I throughly enjoyed it! Also hope you get better soon, we don’t want a Gyles Rosby situation happening. I would love a Fate of the Freys video, I’ve always assumed Freys with like direct connections to Houses like Perwyn to Rosby, Ami to Darry, Steffon to Hardyng, etc will become Lord/Ladys of their respective lands but ditch the Frey name after all the harm it’s done. I do think Olyvar will die because he’s like the ultimate Wholesome Frey who was personal friends with Robb and it shows just how far Stoneheart has fallen. I’ve never thought about a Bracken branch of the Freys! Oh my gods that’s so perfect, why didn’t you do it GRRM. Also I’ve always assumed Walder only married Perra Royce when he became Lord of the Crossing, because yeah he had Stevron at youngest 24, which is weird for him. Not my biggest gripe with the Freys though, it’s the Giant gaps between Freys within the same Branch, like Stevron to Emmon, Hosteen to Merett, they are massive. Given how fertile he’s supposed to be, it surprises me Walder doesn’t have a kid every other year.
@UnreadCabbage26 күн бұрын
Name five freys: Walder, Walder, Walder, Walder, and Walder
@frasqai23Ай бұрын
If any House gets to have an absurd amount of twins it's the Freys, coz they live in a castle called The Twins XD
@notdeadjustyet8136Ай бұрын
I loooove Lothar & Walder Rivers roasting Robb & Cat. And I hope Big Walder becomes the lord of the Crossing
@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766Ай бұрын
I think Bastard Walder could join the side of Black Walder. I mean he will kill his way through the line of succession but he won’t have allies. So Black Walder could offer Bastard Walder a place in his succession (even legalized if they join any king) so the both loners join sides.
@dinisnascimento4929Ай бұрын
Oh o my god, you didn't you mad lad, if Theo Frey is not number one SS+ rank we riot
@weissrose7165Ай бұрын
House Frey Inspired Candy and chocolate. (Coming soon)
@SirLofHearthavenАй бұрын
Great stream, Lord Haven. Sorry for spamming and hope you get better.
@Balon_SwannАй бұрын
The Aenys Frey chocolate bar is snapped at the top 51:23
@hakeempokedex9814Ай бұрын
Bro is the thiccest Frey in that picture.
@Hippo_HegemonyАй бұрын
I have to point out Saddam did not have children that committed horrible acts, there was one a single son that was a monster. The other two were just existing.
@ritchan-k1fАй бұрын
My favourites are pie Freys, Lothar, Fat Walda and Lord Walder :)
@Fitz2364Ай бұрын
I think bastard Walder loves his family. He's a little resentful that he has no inheritance rights. I believe he's Walder Frey's first child and he's very protective of his family. "Edwyn is no man of the sword ... but I am, Piper. If you have more remarks to make, come outside and make them". Walder to Clement Piper
@DRTisKINGАй бұрын
Steveron Frey was born when Walder Frey was I think 25
@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766Ай бұрын
Did he really forget our Lyseni Alchemist S tier Frey when it came to the fates?
@ali20396Ай бұрын
My favorites are Walder the Great, Walder the Black, and Lothar Frey, 8:33 . .
@TrajGreekFireАй бұрын
What about Sockswell Rivers?
@TheBenjamin109Ай бұрын
Do you think Walder’s condition could mirror Hoster to kickstart the succession crisis? So he won’t die but as they can tell he’s gonna die rather than care about him on his deathbed the family erupts
@TrajGreekFireАй бұрын
You must remember that walder might not have been married due to the Frey connection to Blackfyres and snitching to Bloodraven so people were rejecting the offers
@notdeadjustyet8136Ай бұрын
Roslyn has to be S tier,especially if Fair Walda is. Rosie is loyal & a fighter with a lot of "woman's courage". that's super hard in her position❤ she's teen,a pawn of her family, a hostage,a future mum,a very likely widow in very near future. She suffers the worst wedding ever, falls in love, witnesses her husband getting captured by her family & stays civil & normal regardless. she doesn't do anything bad despite everything she's been through, but she openly sides with her husband,prays for a daughter to save him, asks to become a hostage & still respects her dad and family... All we know of Fair Walda is she's pretty&supposedly a bit promiscuous, which is rebellious in a way&sounds cool, but she's far from a sex legend like AMI or Black Walder. It seems her looks is much more flashy than her personality.
@Valkanna.NubletАй бұрын
With all the jokes about Waldar dying during sex I'm surprised no one made the joke that it would be with yet another new wife, he came and whent.
@lscreagle7022Ай бұрын
Do more cooking book recipes
@theprimo100Ай бұрын
Funnily enough, Cuntius Frey is a pretty good guy.
@budidis1578Ай бұрын
Unless I'm missing something, you overlooked TWO Freys, Walder's daughters Morya and Tyta and Morya's Brax kids, they're all inconsequential but still
@SoronacabricotАй бұрын
Aegon Bloodborn the name and the nickname make it sound to me like he could have some Targaryen traits or there could be rumors of him being a Targaryen bastard. Aegon for obvious reasons and bloodborn because Fire and Blood. Tho it's unlikely since he's on the side of the family where they all have Targaryen names
@TrajGreekFireАй бұрын
Btw why no historical freys?
@HaroldTheHeraldАй бұрын
Watching for the next book and having to watch shit like this haha
@stevenferguson6845Ай бұрын
My first thought is if Olyvar Frey isn't S tier the the entire list is invalid. My second thought is my ADHD prevents finding out the first thought. LOL
@TrueYellowDartАй бұрын
Brother Haven: if Walder turns 90 and his firstborn son is already in his 60’s, that means Walder was in his 20’s when the birth happened. Do the maths. Edit: Never mind - you already got told.
@DeCode343Ай бұрын
Have a click and a like and a comment. But sorry I will not be watching 4+ Hours of Frey stuff.