Ranking EVERY Horde Survivor I've Played

[@Dexthesaga]

Halls of torment is S tier

[@DumpsterFire3d]

Fr fr

[@jaynoyes8526]

I wish I could understand why everyone loves Brotato so much. Other games got marked down for plain backgrounds and lack of enemy variety. Brotato is the worst offender in this regard. It is so boring to look at and after a few runs, I just got bored and quit. It looks like there is a lot of run variety, but every run felt the same and just wasn’t interesting.

[@cytharion]

I liked brotatoe but yeah I can see why it can get boring. For me personally I felt there were just way to many stats that I was having to "fix" so a character could be viable.

[@Setixir]

Eh? The variety of builds you can do is absolutely massive. Yes there's some stronger weapons but half the fun was doing some off the wall builds and having them win on Danger 5 At the end of the day every game isn't going to appeal to you even if you like the genre and that's okay.

[@Burr_]

I can see the reasoning for finding it boring, but what kept me engaged personally was the giant variety the game offered with every run, but like others said. Not every game can appeal to everyone and that's fine

[@janniko.3232]

Like the other said. Its kinda understandable. But at the same time Not at all since every Charakter got its own favored builds making every run new

[@LoadingRat]

Same here played for like 4 hours and was bored of it. Don’t get the hype. In the genre there are far better options imo. Build diversity yes but a game like vampires or halls is just more my thing. Gunfire , death must die my playlist is full of them and love em all. Brotato was ok for the price it nothing more

[@Komeii-]

Death must die has become incredible with its recient (ish) update, Act II and its updated skill system is amazing, and i could just die for the art style of the game

[@b4rs629]

I recently played Death must die after enjoying Vampire Surviors & brotato. It's like a blend of Diablo, WoW, & Hades using varius systems from each. My biggest gripe is not being able to banish gods permanately... theres too many times where I get a botched run because it keeps giving me the same god that I don't need while trying to build my abilities around the talents I chose. I feel the game needs more talent points as 36 talent points

[@tomasjonsson7141]

Just started playing and its realy good 😺

[@TheSkala9]

& now some stash space!

[@toni_minguez]

Just googled it cause havent heard about it in my life, and I'm noy saying is bad but its literally Hades with another skin lmao

[@TheBoxfox67]

​@toni_minguez i don't think you know what literally means, it takes influence from hades but it's a completely different kind of game

[@foreignuser_]

Can't believe Boneraiser Minions is not on here. Top-tier game, man. The developer has a sick catalogue of games that he supports to this day with regular updates to pretty much all of them.

[@neocodexx]

I think the video creator does not like pixel art games. It's very apparent from his rating bias.

[@squarciatore2000]

Bonwraiser Is the best

[@elnogal9298]

Yeah Boneraiser Minions is probably one of the best of the genre, it's criminal to not have it here.

[@Xyariax]

Not only that.. it has Tetra Master in it!!

[@laughingstar3945]

Boneraiser minions is without a doubt the easiest S tier ill ever give

[@Jon-ts7vg]

Magic Survival was the game that started this genre, could've at least gave them a mention, it's an amazing game

[@CoFF3e_Man]

Yeah it's sad that people praise the copy more than the original😢

[@vitaliykim8177]

Magic Survival is the best one. Unfortunately Leme is really slow with all the updates and he broke the late game really bad.

[@CoFF3e_Man]

@@vitaliykim8177 What's your longest time to survive?

[@vitaliykim8177]

@@CoFF3e_Man virtual ecosystem 52 minutes 30 seconds. Didn't get the hydra unfortunately, so couldn't survive more. What about you?

[@CoFF3e_Man]

@@vitaliykim8177 Virtual Ecosystem 47 mins+ I hate Artifact rng lmao

[@hamzahussain7794]

I really appreciate the game platform being mentioned for each game. Thanks alot! Not many people do that, its super helpful!

[@Burr_]

Glad it helped! Always good to know the little things like that can be helpful

[@dridda9117]

the worst thing you can hear in a game "oh wow it has a ton of different currencies"!

[@suwin4197]

If your referencing to ingame purchases it isn't an issue with Soulstone Survivors. There aren't any ingame purchases. The only way to get said currencies is to play the game. Unless, of course, you are refrencing the grind it takes to get those :D

[@TheThomasBaxter]

I'm surprised Rogue Genesia isn't on here, it has a hook like Slay the Spire while surviving hordes and the dev is constantly interacting with the player base.

[@B34RProductions]

Rogue genesia is such a great game and the progression system is deep

[@SouperMaruchan]

Halls of Torment is my favorite one so far. Such an awesome little gem

[@Burr_]

I'm waiting for 1.0 before fully diving back in, but might sneak in some runs when I can. Definitely top tier game

[@matheusphilipe8614]

Yes

[@ghosthavenmusic]

BROTATO is top notch, i got a hundred hours in, everything unlocked but still keep on playing. Winning a game with every 40+ base characters on difficulty 5 is the real thing here and omg it's challenging ! Hall of torments is also very good, especially since they removed the 60 fps lock and had more content 👍

[@Kreshrin]

There's one called 'Bounty of One' that seems to be a fantasy western based world, it has a few chars, and each run has you fight against three bosses. Sadly atm there are only 4 bosses available, and only the first one will be swapped out between one or the other. If you enjoy these games, it's fun to get into, and it is also co-op up to four people.

[@tistats]

My favorite one didn't even make the list. Yet Another Zombie Survivors. Good graphics, fun setups, Different enough.

[@thesun9210]

Kinda basic, barely any challenge, very fast to learn best strat(crit is op and easy to stack), low replayability with so much repetition. There was an update recently, though, maybe made game better.

[@Pappagar]

Playing this now, i like it quite a lot!

[@tistats]

@@thesun9210 Have you played it recently. It's become a lot more challenging with all the additions.

[@ganglymangly]

​@@thesun9210yeah the newest update added a lot and iirc is touted as the biggest update so far. if you care enough i suggest giving it another shot, i personally enjoy the game a lot

[@j72ashley]

Some suggestions for those looking for more from the genre: Time Wasters, Deep Rock Galactic Survivor, Artifact Seekers, Time Survivor & Renfield BYOB are pretty fun. Artifact Seeker has some solid variety and a bit of a mapping system somewhat similar to the visual layout of the atlas in Path of Exile.

[@Burr_]

I'm very excited for DRG Survivor, that was a really good demo to play

[@superhetoric]

I've only played Time Wasters and Renfield but completely agree with your praise. the latter, however, for how much I enjoy it, is very frustrating imo in regards to the difficulty increase and controls.

[@aaronbates4848]

Another one to check out would be Yet Another Zombie Survivors.

[@MadManDan-MMD]

Don't put games that are not out yet tease.

[@WannaSPOON]

Time Wasters is what brought me back to this whole genre

[@acquij]

I just recently got into this genre after trying out 20 Minutes Till Dawn and am already hooked; thanks for putting this list together.

[@r3si735]

in my opinion, 20 minutes is the badest game of this genre i've tried. You should try brotato or soulstone survivor they are way better than this one. If you do so, let me know what you think of them.

[@acquij]

@@r3si735 cheers, thanks for the recommendations. all the better if I already enjoyed 20mtd then :D

[@anthonydeathchain4710]

yes he is right 20 minute too is one of the worst i've got in my collection, luckily enough i've never tried the one from his bad list @@acquij

[@neocodexx]

​@@r3si735 completely disagree. 20MTD is just really good. A tier game for sure. There's just something about artstyle in Soulstone survivors I can't look at it for more than 10 seconds without having to vomit.

[@VoidElSidBS]

You should try out "Noita"!

[@zilvercederbom]

One part of Death Must Die I liked were the lore books. Seriously, read the chapters you've collected, especially the necromancer books are interesting and really funny.

[@RevingInThe90s]

I personally think that soulstone survivors is the best one, I feel like it has an endless amount of content for a game that's fairly recent. It also is very unique with it having skill types, multi cast, and curses. Soulstone survivors is definitely one of my favorite games right now, and I hope the game developers the best!

[@MrFloat777]

Looking forward to their new game rogue soulstone

[@neocodexx]

I don't like how it looks

[@DamianSzajnowski]

Either "wish them the best" or "hope (all) the best for them". English is weird. Thanks for the recommendation, I was thinking about trying it and this is the push.

[@MrFloat777]

Honestly, Brotato is ok at best, and halls of torment, while I own it and 100% it, it’s bland and doing runs can be a chore more then fun. Every run takes forever to ramp up or get going. It’s just too slow for the genre I think. Death Must Die is S Tier and Holocure being free makes it S tier all by its self

[@Arsilfarid]

Other games I would recommend that you could check out: Boneraiser Minions Twilight Survivors Return to Abyss Spirit Hunters: Infinite Horde Nordic Ashes Project Lazarus RICE Swarm Grinder I've played a lot of different games in this genre (it quickly became a favorite of mine after Vampire Survivors), and these are the ones that have stood out the most to me in no particular order.

[@edwardlecore141]

Death must Die just had an update that improves it a great deal.

[@Robodob0]

This was actually an re-imagining of an old genre which got popular on mobile. My favorite one back in the day that was closest to Vampire Survivors was Solomon's Boneyard. Only one location, has 4 characters, meta progression, each character has their own skill trees, and the game is mostly a high score chasing, survive as long as you can deal. The skill combos get crazier as you play along, levelling up and also getting random upgrades.

[@Ventus_S]

Death Must Die is AMAZING if you give some time into it and grind up some gears The grinding part reminds me so much about Diablo 2 , and you'd try to minmax the roll and find the best one to build your character. The Hades type leveling system also make the game variety so much more, and each god really emphasize on one aspect, and you can pick up to 3 major gods and 1 support god. With only 1 stage, i already sink 40 hrs into it , trying to grind the best piece of gear for my character. It even has unique gear that has special effect or special item that attach a skill on it. Cant wait for them to release stage 2. I honestly didn't expect i'd like this game as much as i did when i first played it because before you get some gears first, the game progression can be quite a bit tedious, especially if you add difficulty toggle on (it's a system that just like Hades difficulty system.

[@MrFloat777]

Yeah idk why he ranked it so low. He must not be into min max/Diablo style gearing idk. Death must die is an S tier game for me

[@TheForeverScav]

@@MrFloat777he said ‘has great potential to be something special’ which is fair because the game seems low on content until they drop the 2nd act in a few weeks. I haven’t played it yet but looks like I’ll be getting in at the right time!

[@thesun9210]

​@@MrFloat777 because it's poor in mechanics and barely has anything more than that minmaxing of stats.

[@mhjmstultiens]

I remember playing games like Crimsonland and Nation Red, even way before Vampire Survivors. These games feel like prototypes of what we're playing right now. However Vampire Survivors did popularize the genre and set a new standard.

[@lucid-dy3vd]

one game i found thats very similer to vampire surviver is magic survivor a mobile game but the graphics are great and the visuals for the abilitys at final tiers look insane and make you feel like a god

[@tejas4567]

Bro that's the original game and all of these games are copies He should have included it

[@valentinzarate700]

​@@tejas4567 the problem is that almost no one knows that game, its a very niche game, and vampire survivor took the idea and made it infinite times better on variety and content, so most people don't even know magic survival exists

[@generalmits]

​@@valentinzarate700 thats the thing though, magic survival has more variety. It ran under the radar for years before vampire survivors came out, the only issue truly was it being a mobile game. If it had been released on console and pc I am sure it would have been noticed.

[@valentinzarate700]

@@generalmits i think the Main issue is that most of those years the game was compatible with few android versions and it was only in japanese, but yeah it was the origin of all those horde survivor games

[@okamichamploo]

Another issue with the Pathfinder one is the run time. It's about 5 to 10 minutes per floor, so it seems ok at first, so once you're strong enough to get to 10 or so floors down, the run time end up being well over 40 minutes. I feel like they could fix this by letting you quit after beating a floor and then start from where you left off later, but as it is now I found myself just letting my character die cause I played too well during my lunch break.

[@onagaxy]

Before all these games, there was Crimsonland. It's a 2003 game.

[@phiphi2209]

Missing Picayune dreams, What an absolute perfection in the horde survivors genre with amazing music, story, weapons, and graphics

[@ZeroChance21]

You should try magic survival. It's on phones for free. It was the first game in this genre i played. It even came out before vampire survivors.

[@mastercapybara3843]

Death must die is such a great game as of now. I cant wait for more content to drop.

[@silversy9031]

thx for including the music used, that ash level music from binding of issac is fire

[@RobewhO]

I never see much love for Scarlet Tower. It deserves it. Greedland, Spell Disk, Crafty Survivors and Yet Another Zombie Survivor are all good mentions, as well.

[@ClingyParasite]

Recently I've been enjoying Artifact Seeker, it only has a demo out, but what it shows is still decently fun, paced, decent looking abilities and progression

[@jpVari]

I've played tons of em. Probably the most surprisingly enjoyable was Pesticide not Required but only surprising because it was quite simple. My favorite is easily Halls of Torment. I have, oddly, not put that much time into vampire survivors itself altho I loved it. Such a great genre. Never thought I'd play these games so much! Next to g fighting games it's my most played genre the last few years Brotato Picayune dreams Nimrods Karate Survivor Disfigure Spirit hunters Spellbook demonslayer Nordic ashes Chorus of the night Boneraiser minions That's what I can find on steam on my phone, gonna dig more when I get home. Thanks for the inspiration!

[@Burr_]

This little genre is ENDLESS, granted it can be hard to find the perfect games for it. I do think Pesticide not Required is a fun one though, played it for about 10 hours or so

[@Arutima]

Hall of Torments have 9 characters (two hidden) and came out of early access last September. It's very good

[@Burr_]

I've played it a good amount since 1.0! It's one of the best, if not the best

[@alt666]

it's gotten so big that even brave nine added a survivors mini game lmao

[@elnogal9298]

I'm actually amazed that almost every single tier list I see for Horde Survivor games doesn't include the one I think beats every single one: Nova Drift. If you haven't played it I highly encourage you, it's in Early Access since some years ago but it has some of the best weapon/abilities in the genre, plus the combos you can make are just so fun to do, they will be coming out of EA this year if I remember correctly.

[@bo0t3r29]

But why so expensive cuh

[@elnogal9298]

@@bo0t3r29 well, because it wasn't released with the wave of survivors-like that were all priced at 5$ and because it is much better made than most of the ones I've played.

[@elnogal9298]

@@bo0t3r29 either way I don't see 17'99€ being something "so expensive". For me expensive is DDogma2 for example, but not Nova Drift, but again, it may not be like this for everyone and that's okay.

[@aldencordova2541]

I got over 80 hours of Soulstone survivors and its reeeally good, nice tier list mate

[@relaxandlearn7996]

Can you do this video again in march with all the new games and also the games in your "has potential " ranking ? because there at least 5 new games and the other had some updates

[@Burr_]

If i have time i can do an updated one in the future. March is busy with a few indies i have my eyes on like Pepper Grinder and me going to PAX

[@Skilez]

i have over 200 hours in soulstone survivors and will easily spend more there with every update or just for the fun of it. marvelous game. halls of torment is a lot less crazy but also very good. i started with vampire survivors of course, but now after having played both before mentioned games i just cannot play it anymore. not sure why that is...

[@Soulessblur]

One game I feel like gets no deserved attention is Disfigure. It's the only Bullet Heaven I played that effectively captured being scary. You shoot a bunch of giant bugs with a variety of arms. There's no meta progression and there's only 3 stages, but it has awesome bosses, in depth weapon options, and a really unique light mechanic where you can only see enemies on the map within your flashlight. And the best part? Completely free, though I paid for the $5 donation, more than worh it.

[@billton]

Dear Burr, Your videos are the only ones that I immediately click when I see them. I love how much information you pack into each video, and your dedication to the roguelite genre. Keep it up!

[@Burr_]

Thank you! Comments like this really mean a lot and I'm very happy that you enjoy the videos. Thank you so much for supporting

[@CB-jo5kv]

here's a few more Survivors-like games to check out, pesticide not required(really love this one you play as a frog!), Noxious weeds( This and Pesticide both have a farming mechanic in them which I find very interesting) , Boneraiser Minions(I saw a few other people recommend this one too), Sea of Survivors(ship-survivors like where you control a boat)

[@OffshoreITguy]

No Boneraiser Minions? If you havent played that, you should check it out.

[@Rajin90]

One of the best bullet heavens (imho) is Nordic Ashes, which you didn't include in your list. It's really fun. Also, Holocure is getting a new big update this week.

[@elxokasbasado]

Hey, is there any horde survivor game like Brotato that has the auto save mode. Like if you dc you restart on the latest wave

[@Burr_]

I feel the closest thing to Brotato in terms of quality is God of Weapons, but im not 100% sure if it has autosave

[@x149te]

My favorite by far is HoloCure. I'm playing this game more than a year (since day one release on itchio site). And even recent plays finding something new and interesting. For example, three days ago foud out that Mumei's Friend can ignore animation speed cap of weapons. So I'm right now experimenting with haste and collabs and banned weapons slots leaving only two. And looking at teaser-screenshot of 0.7 update. Rooms, keys, floors, limited weapons... We getting Zelda or Isaac mode?

[@gasterblaster34]

16:20 What's about Waves Survivor

[@tomatopotato...coffee]

Survivor Mercs is definitely a hidden gem

[@arregorn]

I was really surprised to not see Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor on the list. You should try it out! It's really great!

[@Burr_]

Yea I made this list right before it came out, but I definitely think it’s one of the great ones. Super unique with the main objective feeling like you need to collect materials more and a unique run structure. One of my favourites with Halls of Torment and Brotato

[@Krusti159]

Halls of Torment gotta be my fav so far, just wish it had more maps

[@Burr_]

It will come with time that's for sure. I'm excited to see 1.0

[@NotFamousReal]

Zombies in the Neighborhood deserves a spot on the list also. Mobile only but takes a lot of inspiration from the SNES/Sega game Zombies Ate My Neighbors.

[@buttonsoftware496]

I made one that has online co-op, not realizing how few of these games have online co-op. Hopefully we'll see more developers adding it.

[@stepangryniv]

My issues with 20 Minutes Till Dawn is the color palette, cant tell you how my hearts ive lost due to the enemies and summons blending into each other. I don't know, mybe this is just a me problem lol

[@gloriousMj]

I think you can do something about it in the options

[@imran6450]

goobies is great bro you just have to figure out the combination of upgrades . IT is really nice.

[@franz3526]

Bonaraiser Minions ,one of the most unique of this new genre

[@Burr_]

THAT'S ONE I FORGOT... I knew I was missing a few good ones, like 'Yet Another Zombie Survivors"

[@jaynoyes8526]

100% agreed. My favorite by far

[@raider363]

Boneraiser is fun and I should really play more of it.

[@franz3526]

@Burr_ today I tried a small game that came out this summer called Disfigure, try it and let me know what you think

[@j72ashley]

Interesting list for sure. Death Must Die is likely to be the best in the genre once the systems are fleshed out and we get all the item tiers. Truly a special title, just very early.

[@Burr_]

Yea I am very intrigued to see what they do with it.

[@MadManDan-MMD]

Nope, Deep Rock Survivors will win

[@AsDf-fq1sh]

Boneraiser Minions is my personal favourite from this subgenre. Very unique premise and mechanics, a bangin soundtrack, lots of replay value and just overall made with a lot of love!

[@neocodexx]

Yeah it's pretty good started playing it recently. Definetely a thumbs up

[@NetPhaser]

Why every one forgot about Crimsonlands???

[@JRX36]

Yet another zombie survivor is a good one, too. I have lots of hours in it.

[@MrDenatix]

Agree,fun,dynamic and pretty-also being actively worked on.

[@Ventus_S]

That game has great gameplay value but i hate that it becomes zero progression very early on.

[@MattRaithel]

Hive Jump 2: Survivors has entered the fray! Adds Jetpack for more unique stage traversal across bespoke levels within a sci-fi aesthetic + Starship Trooper vibes!

[@Burr_]

I'll have to check that one out! i great new bundle just dropped that has 9 horde survivors on it. i'll need to double check to see if its there

[@MattRaithel]

@@Burr_ o wow - I didn't see that. Doesn't seem like there is a way to search for bundles on steam, or is there? Searching Horde Survival Bundle didn't return any results for me.

[@lobo2367]

Put a summary with the final tierlist pic at the end

[@Meitary]

First hour of Holocure might not feel enticing but trust me it gets way better the more you play, the amount of items, upgrades, weapons and weapon combinations is HUGE. Currently there are 36 characters, each with different main weapon and skill. It is free because it's a passion project from a fan (a well known and highly praised developer, Kay Yu) and it uses the IP of Hololive Production, a Japanese vtuber agency. It has 99% rating on steam, so it's not a shady game whatsoever.

[@lokidongorgon4126]

Brotato is GOD 🎉

[@its_xen0nn]

amazing to see fabric of reality on here, its made me a retired geometry dash level creator formerly named GD Virus, famous for his "Battle of The Shades" series (it was actually just 1 level but he updated it like 4 times into something completely different)

[@KingSlimeProductions]

sucks he rated it as bad it actually looks quite interesting, might give it a go

[@jeffrodrequez]

Great list agree with your choices - never got around to trying choo choo so will give it a shot. The latest in this genre that has been sucking up all my time is Cleanup Crew - great graphics and the gameplay is challenging (upgrade system is kind of weak and even though they are blocked you can actually select and use them) but it's unique enough to be fun. Chickenauts is the other one I've been spending time on it's not a VS clone more like a gungeon clone but fun. Great vid as always!

[@Burr_]

Thanks for watching as always! Cleanup Crew is not one I heard of, so I'll need to check it out And Chickenauts is actually a game I've played a little bit of. I'll need to check it out again and see what they've added

[@cytharion]

This genre exploded thanks to Vampire Survivors (I personally just refer to them as Shmups). The price to play time is usually always worth it, only a few exceptions. There's still tons of them out there, these are some I played: Boneraiser Minions Bounty of One Gunlocked Her name was Fire Keeper's Toll Kill the Crows Nomad Survival Project Lazarus Rogue: Genesia Scarlet Tower Spirit Hunters: Infinite Horde Tiny Rogues

[@Burr_]

The genre that NEVER ends. Also, you would consider Tiny Rogues in this genre? Interesting for sure, but I can see the argument

[@ZuukaClips]

He does realise that Vampire Survivors wasn't the first Bullet Hell/Bullet Heaven game, right? And that it didn't start the genre?

[@Burr_]

Yes I’m aware of that, but I feel like it was the catalyst that really made the genre become more mainstream

[@ZuukaClips]

​@Burr_ Maybe but I think that might just be your circle. Like, I'm certain everyone has that *one* game they think really kicked the genre into gear. For me personally, I've been into these types of games for so long I couldn't even tell you what one I think revived it because they're all blended together. But theres definitely I few games I think I would consider were bigger and the catalist over Vampire and I know I'm not alone. I didn't even know Vampire existed until a few months ago. It definitely went under my radar while I was preoccupied lol.

[@charlesw3120]

Why's this guy standing sideways? Drunk?

[@amadmaul]

Why there's no Bio Prototype in list?

[@SoundsOfSushi]

I believe there was an arcade game called SmashTV where these games’ premise originated from. That was a hard game.

[@SolarisKane]

There's so many ones you you haven't mentioned that it'd probably take an hour or more. Probably the biggest one missing from here is Rogue Genesia. You MUST check it out. Another great one to look at is Crafty Survivors.

[@seresrobertwoodoo2451]

Holocure is pure pain once u play the later levels it goes from what builds do i do and what characters i should play to "mumei,miko please spam enough"

[@Andromediens]

Welp now there's the masterclass game Yet Another Zombie Survivors

[@SuperRomanHoliday]

do any have non cartoon cheesy look?

[@koppy82]

Halls of Torment is the best game in this genre

[@alejandroalonzo6736]

If u want a decent mobile one go for Magic Survival, lot of fun

[@bilalahmed-bu7bi]

Funfact, it's the game thay Inspired vampire survivors.

[@Wiseman108]

Not sure if it falls into the same category as Vampire Survivors but the game Skelly Selest deserves more attention and it's 100% a horde survivor roguelite.

[@keepitshort4208]

Have you tried rogue genesia ?

[@srshadow2303]

Soulstone survivors is my confort game, I have 60h in it and still haven't unlocked everything, great build variety too

[@Burr_]

And you still haven’t felt the unlocking has gotten more grindy? That’s good to know

[@tonyfaccaro8787]

​@@Burr_ Im at 450 hrs in soulstone. Game is amazing. You dont have to do the harder content but you level up your toons faster, and they just had an update last week that gives each character another outfit, but they all unlock at level 170. So to get them you have to hit 170 on every character for their individual outfit, which perfectly corresponds with a maxed out skill tree. To spice things up there are 2 runes to mess with. Gambler, which picks your skills for you at random, and omnipotent, which allows you to randomly get any skill in the game you have already unlocked, not just from your class. Keeps the grind interesting. For the record I only have one of the 14 characters above 170, but i dont do the hard stuff after i unlocked everything, could get there much faster. As you can tell, I love this game. LOL

[@srshadow2303]

Sometimes it can get a little grindy but I think the variety of stuff you can try while unlocking everything makes it more enjoyable overall. I just wouldnt recommend playing a character you don't like just for the sake of unlocking everything, unless you really like the core gameplay replay.@@Burr_

[@MadManDan-MMD]

Its a great game and the devs are nice and responsive

[@C0T0HA]

Rogue: Genesia is great, and also has very short playsessions instead of 20-30 minute slogs

[@Burr_]

I just got that game in my email im pretty sure

[@darkly77]

A few that do something unique are: Timewasters > Gives you lots to do during gameplay, so never boring. Loads of content and varied systems. Frequent updates. Very grindy from the midgame though. Boneraiser Minions > Attack with minions, instead of yourself. Adorable art style. Unlocks are frequent so the grind is minor. Yet Another Zombie Survivors > It's 3D. Great reviews but I find it dull and super grindy. Bounty of One > You only shoot when you stand still. 4 player co-op. Good variety of items/characters. Can get repetitive though, due to the stand still mechanic.

[@shemuelbibiolata2706]

You got to make a new review and add more horde games such as SNKRX and Nova Drift.

[@apimb1396]

Army of Ruin......200 hrs..yeah i got all the build knowledge.....i hate myself

[@drmortal9168]

Void scrappers and boneraiser minions are 2 of the best VS clones I've came across.

[@TheFoxKnocks]

I just found this video and saw a clip of Nomad Survival in the beginning and was curious to know where it stands, but then realized it doesn't stand anywhere. I laughed because this happens way more often than I'd like to admit. Bit of a curse with the game.

[@Burr_]

It's an 'ok' game. I added it to the list but realized i hadnt played it in a couple years so i just decided to remove it as i felt the list could get too long. it was just meh

[@BlackCanvasAudio]

Great list but you are missing SO MANY GREAT games from this genre. Greedland, Nebula, Time Wasters, Scarlet Tower, Spellbook Demonslayers, Skybreakers, Yet Another Zombie Survivor, Project Lazurus, Rogue Genesia, Bio Prototype, Boneraiser Minions, Nomad Survival and many more! There are some absolute BANGERS in this loaded genre. I'm a junkie for these games. lmaoo

[@Burr_]

I agree I missed so many. So many games to try

[@Zogun_85]

@BlackCanvasAudio Now that's an extensive list! I've only played VS, Soulstone Survivor, Death Must Die and Halls of Torment. Would you care to make a top 20 list?

[@michxich3342]

can you give more suggest? i want to know

[@sorenrousseau]

I just played keepers toll. Pretty good.

[@Gidon147]

Vamplikes have the advantage of having a formula that defines the genre (Timed Stages, Absorbing the life force of enemies to get stronger, roguelite-progression and upgrades), and thus are easy and quick to make while you are able to focus on designing the setting, adding your own spin, etc. Its very close, in my opinion, to its own unique genre that distinguishes itself from Horde/Tower defense and roguelike games.

[@SKPonr]

Happens every time. Pubg came out and BR became popular. Tarkov comes out and so on

[@muramasa870]

Bulletheaven

[@Gidon147]

@@muramasa870 Vamplike

[@muramasa870]

@@Gidon147 I NEED MORE BOOLETHEAVEN

[@Gidon147]

@@muramasa870 Shuut Paradise

[@rosethorn_48]

ah yes i played 20 mins till dawn and built a lilith virus build using the crossbow... it's basically getting all the death effects making it so that a death of one enemy spawns several attacks making it like a virus that spreads throughout the enemies... BE CAREFUL THE GAME MAY CRASH

[@Towtrucc]

Don't sleep on Vampire Hunters! I goes to 1.0 soon. Its very similar to Brotato in it's itemization and upgrade system, but the game is in first person. I've had a lot of fun with it but i just really like first person

[@methabolica84]

Genre is called "Reversed Bullethell"

[@witchinggecko4271]

My problem with vampire survivors is that it melts your brain. Maybe my brain hasn't rotted away enough yet to just deal with it, since I don't use tiktok, but the game is just the epitome of sensory overload. I have every achievement in the game, but I also had a couple of nights with horrible sleep because of it. Don't play it for too long and especially not before going to bed

[@josedelarocha2455]

Try Magic survival. It is on mobile platform, yes, but is also one the oldest "horde" games and the game is simple yet very complex, you can go random in a run, plan very heavily before one, or just follow a meta it is not a restrictive game and has a lot freedom of choice (there is alot of rng tho)

[@ryanlaw70]

Having played 20 ish hours of soulstone survivors, unlocking all characters filling trees and unlocking weapons on characters i mainly played, made me realize it has absolutely no depth, compared to Hades, Death must Die, VS, Brotato, Streets of Rogue, etc. As in nothing extra to unlock, no real lore, nothing other than upping the difficulty to get different "currency" runes, to buy another weapon or further progress your skill tree for.....nothing.

[@robaxl3088]

Vampire Survivors is extremely ADDICTIVE

[@WOLFSERGI]

If you ever make another one of these types of videos here are a few more games for the list to consider An Ankou, Sea of Surviors, Fatalzone, Yet Another Zombie Survivors

[@internetuser8922]

nimrods guncraft survivor recently added a ton of content to the free demo. it's showing a lot of promise!

[@mezzops1716]

if blizzard made a horde survivors game about warcraft id totally play that all the time

[@JULR0W]

I recommend Holocure and 3k survivor, will watch later of course. Merry Christmas in advance!

[@Burr_]

Merry christmas! Thanks for watching

[@GoadedGoblin]

Just picked up death must die, like it more than halls of torment tbh

[@BorsucznikThePilgrim]

I'm gonna put this on the top of Good - puts it in good I'm gonna put this on the bottom of Good - puts it in good I'm gonna put this in the middle - puts it at the bottom in "has potential" Bro please, just use normal grading system

[@WitikoAmor]

Try out Apocalypse Party , I enjoy it a lot and it uses the same assets of Soulstone Survivors but it's great and doesn't take it'self too seriously.