Ranking Every MK4 TOYOTA SUPRA TURBO on Facebook Marketplace

Today we tier the Mk4 Toyota Supra Turbo, one of the most desirable Japanese sports cars ever made.
Also, one of us pulled a beer before liquor. Fights break out about:
-Mk3 Supra's place in tuner and collector car culture
-Which Japanese car has the best taillights? (Mk4 Supra vs. FD RX-7 vs. 180SX Type X)
-My cohosts' disgusting taste in body kits (these dudes are stanning the Veilside catfish kit that Erebuni put on everything in the 00s, wtf?)
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Chapters:
0:00 Preview
0:23 Intro, SMASH LIKE, HIT SUBSCRIBE
1:58 Mk3 vs. Mk4 Supra; What have we been drinking?
4:38 Is the Mk4 Toyota Supra TOO thicc?
6:09 The forgotten history of 2 Fast 2 Furious
9:57 What does the Mk4 Toyota Supra Turbo sell for on Bring A Trailer?
11:17 Mk4 Supra Turbo #1
13:47 Mk4 Supra Turbo #2
15:21 Mk4 Supra Turbo #3
16:04 Mk4 Supra Turbo #4
18:11 Mk4 Supra Turbo #5
19:15 Mk4 Supra Turbo #6
21:50 Mk4 Supra Turbo #7
22:41 Do manual swaps hurt or help value?
23:52 Mk4 Supra Turbo #8 (fake Veilside kit/debate)
25:23 Mk4 Supra Turbo #9
26:30 Mk4 Supra Turbo #10
26:58 Mk4 Supra Turbo #11
28:22 Mk4 Supra Turbo #12
31:07 Mk4 Supra Turbo #13
32:29 Mk4 Supra Turbo #14
34:37 More Veilside fightin'
35:04 Taillight fight: Mk4 Supra Taillights vs. FD RX-7 vs. 180SX Type X
37:38 Mk4 Supra Turbo #15
38:02 Mk4 Supra Turbo #16
38:39 Mk4 Supra Turbo #17
40:12 Mk3 Copium Revisited
41:19 Opinions on the Mk5 Supra
42:02 Mk4 Supra Turbo #18
42:35 Mk4 Supra Turbo #19
43:04 Mk4 Supra Turbo #20
43:38 Mk4 Supra Turbo #21
44:05 Recap: What did we learn?
44:24 SERIOUSLY SMASH LIKE AND HIT SUBSCRIBE THANKS FOR WATCHING

[@jasonhudson8336]

Lol mk3 looks better 😂 nobody cares about the mk3 that dude is crazy

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Go off king

[@nicholasgill8066]

Honestly I love the mk3 better

[@mybloodtypeKRYLON]

Shhhh that's secrets

[@rambow70]

mk3 supra looks like dump. FC RX7 looks amazing.

[@robbalinski1606]

Kind of like how the evo is crazy high but DSM's are dirt cheap and 80% of what an evo is.

[@jalopyjustin]

As it still stands, leaving your car stock brings more money every single time!

[@twrcrew8852]

Keeping your supra stock is like dating the hottest girl and never getting around to it... sure its better for the next person but you just played yourself not enjoying your time on earth to it's fullest with something you had a chance and time to experience. the high price on supras being stock ironically COMES from it's ability to not be stock. if it sucked in the aftermarket, stock would be twice as worthless. i call it the Supra Par-Ridox.

[@jalopyjustin]

@@twrcrew8852 I'm down to modify, but I know my mods won't bring a return on my investment.

[@twrcrew8852]

@@jalopyjustin You're looking at this car all wrong if it's a cash investment you only desire. There's many better markets than cars as a whole. Especially when you could only ever get a supra for a marked up price these days and they cost you money just to hold onto while you wait for the one guy wiling to pay $100+k (and if they're that guy, they probably looked at many others than yours and the odds of yours being the perfect one are slim). That ship sailed when supras were $25-50k at any range and condition. To be honest though, it's probably cheaper to pay someone a decent amount to borrow theirs for a day than to have one lol if the experience is what you want. And further still, there's cheaper ways to go very very fast and actually feel it. (motorcycles, etc).

[@twrcrew8852]

@@jalopyjustin anyway, before I went off on a tangent, your modifications return speed. The noises, the vibrations, the feeling from the seat and the smoothness of the steering, the chunky chunks of the 6 speed as it bucks at every 600ft lb shift through a twin disc and a perfectly tuned standalone manages to keep it all from falling apart. all in the comfort of cold AC. This is a feeling I've never forgotten from my supra. especially the candy sweet smell of E85 coming through from the trunk into the cabin. probably bad for you, but yes, it's all a visceral experience. mk4 supra visibility is also second to none, and it's miles ahead of ANY modern car. Safety standards saw to that.

[@jalopyjustin]

@@twrcrew8852 You are preaching to the quire, I could care less about selling my car at a loss. I have a mk3 supra, I know every dollar I put into it is just burning money, but I enjoy driving it.

[@86spirit60]

Collector car feed has one hand on the pulse of the future of collector cars. The other hand of course, has 2 in the pink and 1 in the stink.

[@aztekcolours5468]

Vukos: The MK3 Supra is really awesome and has an 80's rad look Netgear: *ACKCHUALLY* keep up the content guys :D

[@cmhidalgo]

so im dumb and have been listening to this show for only a few weeks - I thought they called him neckbeard? and was like "wow these guys have a sense of humor with each other"

[@lbpellizzer]

Gotta remember that Smokey nagato was out racing the supra and really being a pro advocate in the street racing scene for the mk4

[@konceptkarma]

If anyone were to actually ask if there is a single body line on the FD RX-7 that is ugly, I would ask them what they've been smoking. Straight up one of the most beautiful cars ever made.

[@nuckels188]

Most if not all Late 80s to late 90s japanese cars were perfect

[@sethjackson2266]

I agree....with one of the worst engines..lol.. our mechanic at the mill has a k24 swapped one and that one is sick ...and he doesn't need to rebuild it

[@the_jamels_camel]

Please do RX7 FDs next! Would to know y’alls opinion on the current market

[@CollectorCarFeed]

We ALMOST did FDs for next week's video, but wound up doing something else with a much worse market. They're coming though!

[@the_jamels_camel]

@@CollectorCarFeed hell yeah, much love to the crew, love the commentary 😮‍💨

[@wrxd1247]

​@@CollectorCarFeedbroke my leg the other day been binge watching your videos since the day before. Gotta see that fd rx7 video. Also to be noted the mk3 supra was period correct to the rx7 and the other cars in its class! Although they were sub 5k cars about 4-5 years ago so id say the mk4 is why the price jumped 300% since then

[@AlphaFlight]

Trash cars

[@Lucky_Logan]

Bro I’ve been on a CCF binge, like my god so much amazing content. I’ve been watching for the past 2 days and I’ve just been choosing random videos, how in the fuck did I not find you guys sooner?! Man I need some more friends to do this kind of shit with lmao. This looks like so much fun. I love y’all.

[@sebastienceniceros3145]

Was netgear smoking crack while drinking or something? People cared about the mk3. 7m was a good powerplant too, deffo not as good as the 2 or 1j but once you sorted out the headgasket they were solid and made good power. They had the first electronicly controlled adjustable suspension too.

[@vukos]

crack ☑ drank ☑

[@CollectorCarFeed]

People STILL care about the Mk3. I don't think he's wrong about people buying them (SOMETIMES) because they wanted a Mk4, but to suggest nobody cares about it is insane. I think his mind is poisoned by being an S Chassis Boy. If something isn't as popular as the S13, it gets written off. I hope one day he comes to terms with his disability

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Personally I think netgear is 100% correct

[@adamcz3183]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 He States the obvious but hes not 100% correct.

[@nochillnorris]

I just want to say you guys are awesome, I love the streams!

[@twrcrew8852]

final spam: "not a big deal to swap an auto" - WRONG. You're talking about a $12,000-15,000 transmission now in 2023 and the $4000-$6000 3.13 or 3.75 DIFF and $????? drive shafts to match... yeah... unlike a 240, you don't just need the basic hardware and pedal. You need a special plate you have to buy for the tunnel, and also don't forget expensive mk4 interior boot. VERY expensive mk4 clutch pedal assy and brake assy.. no "just cut the half of your auto pedal" like you would a 240. it's a whole different thing. Also if you don't want your car to look stupid with the gear selection in the cluster... ohhh boy. good luck pricing out a mk4 manual cluster with USDM layout. *must be usdm to usdm for all swap parts. making it twice as hard to find/$$$$ Clusters are limitlessly expensive on condition alone due to the fact that they are mile-less (the mileage counter is in a separate partition. making the clusters hold value)

[@jvogler_art4708]

At that point slap the 2jz in a fox body mustang and call it a day. You’ll pull similar drag times anyway.

[@twrcrew8852]

​@@jvogler_art4708 That still begs the question of sourcing a trans. you'll need to fork out for a T56 adapted or settle for a CD00x (both will negate cost savings to make like the V160/161). There's a pretty fair gap between a car with a live rear axle and standard multi link front and a CD of 0.44 and one with a CD of 0.31 with a smaller frontal area (in drag config, sans wing) full double wishbone suspension all around like the supra. they put massive traction down when you can dial them in as near perfect as possible. This is how craig Lieberman got his doors blown off in his foxbody trying to roll race an FBO mk4. An SN95 or new edge might be a better donor on shape alone. but you'd still need to deal with the suspension deficit.

[@westleyhurtgen4275]

The MK4 supra is a Japanese catfish Camaro

[@CrabSpirits]

I was about to comment that it's a T/A, but you beat me. Uninspiring front end, tacky styling (scoop, wing), and a big 'ol BUTT.

[@AlphaFlight]

Basically

[@jonnyz37gjbm]

FD RX7 and the NSX had my favorite rears/taillights from that era.

[@TheFragrantClerk]

All else being equal, the RX7 and NSX are way better in my mind, in every way.

[@sannyassi73]

If I had my dream Supra I admit, I'll rice it out a bit but definitely keep all the original parts and do nothing that can't be undone without too much work. This and a Lotus Elise/Exige are my dream cars, I also like those mid-late 90s Eclipse also (got a Manual 3000gt SL right now which is a lot of fun). Maybe some Day... Fast and the Furious was not why I love this car, though I was 16 when the first FF came out and I was glad it was in the movie!

[@alxgu198]

Yep, just found you, watched all of it, subscribed 😁👍

[@VeilSideZ32]

The A80 was the worst selling supra ever, it was overshadowed by the Z32 at the time which dominated the market because of it comin 3 years before the A80. A70 was the best supra tho, was the coolest looking

[@adamcz3183]

It was the worst selling because it was a way over price

[@radio9730.]

@@adamcz3183 You have to consider the rising Japanese yen and the market of the time.

[@robbalinski1606]

Supra's were dirt cheap until 2018, could import one from Japan for well under 20k in show room condition and north american supra's were sub 10k in the early 2000's. Things have gone crazy only because american's have to much money to spend and not enough common sense. I'll take those salvage title cars all day no big deal.

[@mybloodtypeKRYLON]

I just stumbled on ccf I been watching all day at work , you guys a great 🤣

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Welcome king

[@Christian_Pope]

I love the videos, so funny and about jdm cars what else could you want

[@GarageSupra]

I think the thing is even though they have a load of miles at this point most of the good ones have had everything rebuilt/replaced anyway. I have owned a mk3 and mkiv and they are both great but the mk3 is more of a GT car where the 4 is a proper sports car

[@jordangordon2350]

They look so good in the dark green with gold badges. I probably would only pay this dumb money if it was that color scheme

[@UgoPoe]

Can't wait!

[@malcolmisk00l]

Netgear is like the Stavros of this group

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Let's not figure out who Adam and Nick are then

[@malcolmisk00l]

@@CollectorCarFeed I’ll leave that up to you guys 🤣

[@poinendev2932]

Hell no dude, he's the only one with the balls to drop a hard N or F.

[@Likwidfox]

I worked at Toyota in 03-04 and got to drive a 25th Anny Supra with a stage 3 clutch. The guy I worked with had two mark III and thought they were the greatest.

[@jordangordon2350]

Feed is cracked that body kit on the white JDM was hype

[@MrCarsandguitars]

Im over here seething, looking at pics of my old mk3

[@jozef9659]

Please do EG civic one! These videos are hilarious.

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

Yeah Bombardier is definitely the french pernounciation, the company, and most, if not all their products are from the province of Quebec, Canada. Aka the french province. They're based in Montreal or Quebec City i think. Most people dont know that they make both small engine toys, (atv, pwc, sleds etc) and commercial aeroplanes too!

[@twrcrew8852]

mk4 turbo owner here. In November 2017 when i first sat in, drove, and laid eyes on for any extended period of time to my mk4 (especially as other cars parked next to it). I began to realize anyone who says "it's big in real life" are dead wrong. it looks fat on the internet. it's in the shape. In real life, think S13 fastback (especially to sit in.) People on the internet (probably like the guy in the video) see the bulbous shape, read the curb weight, and summarize "ohhh its big".. then you see one parked next to a GT86. And fail to realize from the front, back and sides. you're staring at DIMENSIONALLY identical cars. A small mid 2000s ford focus sedan parked next to my supra first. and my car was smaller. Next, an S14 parked next to it. My car was shorter in height AND length end to end. It's like the NSX. Everyone who never sees one pictures a big long "supercar" shaped wedge driving around and when you see one pull up it's more like an S2000 sized supercar that they somehow crammed into a tiny footprint.

[@bren.nan_]

once these tuner legends reach 6-figure prices they aren't really anything to brag home about, when you're spending 200k on a tuned 90's car to beat a stock $200k super car today you aren't really gaining anything

[@74go13]

the intro music for this video was fire

[@metallicarabbit]

no one gave a shit about the MK4 in the west until the fast and the furious

[@toothinm9paste]

Lol I remember this live stream all I heard was netgear say ejacc every five seconds

[@CollectorCarFeed]

The next video is going to take my whole life to beep out all the ej*ccs

[@dyingforcertain]

LETS GO, IM GOIGN TO GET SOM EFOOD AND WATCH PEOPLE MAKE FUN OF FUNNY CAR

[@kerrydoe9810]

Look, on the hero car thing. In TFaTF, the Eclipse, while iconic in its own right, is more of just the intro car. It's kind of bested by the whole OG Dom crew's cars. The Supra is the hero car, and if not, definitely the Charger. The Charger remained in the series, rebuilt or replaced by Dom. The Supra showed Brian's true driver skill, more so than what the Eclipse did, seeing as he didn't blow up the Supra via nitro misuse. Idk, just thinking

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

All i see are now unreliable ones that are modded to be blown Id choose bone stock

[@TheFragrantClerk]

Stock is the preferred choice for any used car, especially collectibles.

[@user-ox5ok4bf2d]

I don't know, but SC300 or SC400 with money in the bank seem to be much better opinions

[@bluespinningdotinspace]

Doesnt hit the same

[@TheRealCatof]

My dad still has his 1996 Supra Turbo, it's bone stock and has just under 700k miles on it now. He's been offered 100k and he bought the thing new for like 22k

[@jrpark1945]

Are there any stock, manual, usdm examples of the MK4 anymore? Everyone has modified their Supra

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Like everything that lived through the Fast and Furious era, no, it's been fiddled with irreversibly

[@jrpark1945]

@@CollectorCarFeed very sad reality

[@radio9730.]

We've had two examples recently that were bone stock original examples. They're out there...

[@schakalicious6023]

@@radio9730.just gotta wait on BAT and then when one comes up pay a full Ivy League tuition

[@Pantystealer]

I agree the mk4 taillights look great

[@tyestima8865]

I am thinking about getting a MK4 as a second weekend toy, what are your opinion on JDM bubble? Should I wait a lil longer for the price to cooldown? I am looking at a 97 LHD gte-vvti swapped (non turbo body),4spd automatic with paddle shifters from rs-z with around 80k miles and the owner is asking $68k cad ( which is around $50k +- usd) Thanks

[@Carvania]

Going from 1k to 70k in a year ,proud of yall. I will say a starion conquest 4g63t swap is a goal of mine it'd be SICK. Lol

[@ToyotaChariots]

Jdm mk3 came with a 1jz gte option and r154 5spd. Thats a great car and that spawned the mk4 2jzgte

[@willg125]

gotta get some early and late gen rx-7s on this series, I think it would make for good content.

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

Id rather have the FD rx-7 over a supra just in general.

[@Allwayzworkin]

I feel y’all on the Mishimoto disrespect 12:45 😂😂😂

[@zikegladion6848]

C4s have 4 torx to remove the targa. 2larger removable bolts towards the rear, and two non removable screws hidden by the visors

[@gambit_toys6554]

It's so fast the Gas door opens!

[@turbogears900]

Do a video on the lexus sc300

[@Stout936]

MK2 Supra master race

[@ralphjackson6309]

Netgear got beef with the mk3

[@Carvania]

Starion/ conquest is one of my favorite cars. I mean Jackie Chan and jaws drove one in cannonball run 2 lol.

[@TheFragrantClerk]

The Veilside Shogun kit is literally the only kit I like on a Supra. It’s Xtreme and period correct.

[@devianb]

I always liked the Bomex kit. The Abflug kits were Xtreme.

[@jonathanramoslexusmaster298]

the guy in tn always has supras and gtr's. he also had a r34 available before they were 25 yr old with no title for 80k

[@radio9730.]

The 41k mile IJM for $115k is not bad at all. We'd love to buy that one! Edit: Both of the IJM examples.

[@Zycx2]

idk why but this shit is fun asf

[@radio9730.]

280hp was for JDM examples.. 320hp was the USDM rating. Also, the prices were not always above their original sticker.

[@francisofthesages5075]

4th gen camaro you can ( if unlocked) you can pull a lever and the ttops flies off on the free way

[@crispycrisp7140]

Damn can this netgear57 grow up

[@CollectorCarFeed]

What'd he say, we'll put him on blast

[@wrxd1247]

@32:00 That hood looks straight off a dodge neon

[@Soundwave501st]

Can you do the evo x or evo in general i would love to see that

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Couple of these guys are Evo fans, I'd like to do all the USDM gens as a single video

[@telegonic8431]

you guys should do an episode on the 3g eclipse. I own one, but literally every example on facebook is clapped to shit

[@thecloud1432]

Original Dark green with the dark grey factory alloys is actually a sick stock combo tho. I wouldnt pay 80 for it but maybe 60-70. Regardless of RHD or not.

[@61936]

“The mk4 is superior in ever way to the mk3” Ok and

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Exactly, dude's tripping

[@Wik3dNuTS4k]

Also the 3000gt was going to be the hero car in the fast and furious the only reason they changed to the supra is because they needed a targa for the semi truck scene

[@twrcrew8852]

and my god that guy with the anime picture... his lisp and the fact that he was eating a pizza on air just matches his profile picture all too well. I imagine he looks like the griefer from south park's world of warcraft episode.. imean he HAS to.

[@aspenGF8]

I've always hated supra tailights

[@bren.nan_]

mk4 supra vs r35 GTR???? what kind of comparison is that

[@pokecat6122]

Brand new Rolls-Royce phantom with a manual swap would definitely hurt the value.

[@MouseCIick]

I actually like the mk3 because it looks like an mk2. the mk2 looks like a functional DeLorean.

[@anfridge7844]

19:22 looks like a chargespeed kit to me (Edit) said it in the list anyway -_-

[@twrcrew8852]

Also, keep in mind with your "appraisals" - especially on JDM autos. That the aero on it is worth a pretty penny in and of itself that are often completely absent from the USDM cars or incomplete. TRD wing = $1500 - $4000 (good knockoffs like RMM/whiffbitz etc vs OEM). JDM RZ sideskirts = $3000-10,000 (yes. TEN thousand). stupid rare and hard to find in good shape. JDM RZ rear valances $200 - $2000. (90% of them.. even on RZs.. are fiberglass knockoffs. even in japan. $1000 was the optional OEM price at the time when new. so few bought them at all. ). Do not overlook these. the black one had all 3. AND an active aero not available in the US ($1000 - 1500 JDM. for some reason UK examples have lots for less. albeit very rusty typically)

[@gondolagripes1674]

The mark 2 and 5mge are my favorite supras and Supra engine.

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Honest question: why tho

[@gondolagripes1674]

@@CollectorCarFeed the twin cam 12 valve setup makes a pretty interesting sound, at least with a good exhaust. Plus they're still pretty cheap, reliable, and have nice styling for the 80s. I ended up getting a cressida with a clean title and minor collision damage for 2.5k right before covid with sub 75k miles and no rust in West Virginia. Low power, but smooth delivery and nice sound.

[@gondolagripes1674]

I'd love to see an 80s survivor car episode to see if there's anything out there in good shape

[@Xerope_]

Bro what is netgear on, he's nuts.

[@ms-811]

995th sub

[@jordangordon2350]

Another point not mentioned: if you need an auto because you're a lazy poser, might as well get right hand drive. Without the need to shift it's not that different from left

[@johnpapas7574]

Supras are soo expensive now

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Always has been 😔

[@radio9730.]

@@CollectorCarFeed Not really.. but I guess it depends what an item is worth to someone.

[@nostalgiaof98]

Netgear is tanked this is hilarious 😂 Also the best taillights are R31 hot plates

[@jonathanramoslexusmaster298]

22:19 no no no. it's a 2jzgte vvti from an aristo or last gen turbo supra. depending on coil cover color. blue is aristo greyish blk is from a supra

[@dalemaloney5803]

YESSSSS bomex. Veilside. Brash Feng. Hks. Wacky n tacky all day

[@blakesmith4454]

Bro 26:55 had me dead. That’s fucked up but funny as hell

[@G.O._MEDIA]

veilside dated but sick asf

[@CaffeinatedFrostbite]

i will own one of these. its my life goal. ill do it.

[@Sonic_1000]

The 97 USDM Turbo only came in auto

[@Fobiarmy1987]

Can you do a gen 3 or 4 Camry tier list?

[@CollectorCarFeed]

I wouldn't mind ranking some of those '94-'96 Camry coupes 😩

[@Fobiarmy1987]

@@CollectorCarFeed some came with a 5 speed manual. Very rare. I was just mentioning them due to the high miles they would drive too. I’ve drivin two to over 300,000. My wife’s friend had a 92 that went to 720,000 with two transmissions. First replacement at almost 500,000.

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Yeah here you go: all F

[@Fobiarmy1987]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 where can you buy a 1,000 car and drive it for the next 4 years?

[@Fobiarmy1987]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 you took the F homeboy

[@Crupp250k]

35:15 this one is net gears Supra he’s selling huh

[@floppydoggie2718]

Bro why can’t mans wait to eat

[@lon242]

36:42 lol

[@youtubeaccountlol4942]

GTs-t is far superior to the GT-R

[@CollectorCarFeed]

🤔

[@adamcz3183]

They are definitely more fun

[@Soundwave501st]

Wheres the uncensored non bleeped vid

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Gotta watch live for the goofs n gaffs

[@Soundwave501st]

@@CollectorCarFeed dang i missed it nooooooo

[@rejectXhero578]

I’m 6’7 I can’t work a clutch on most fucking standards. So yea as much as I want a manual I can only drive certain ones. Automatics are not always bad if you don’t have another choice.

[@jamesbashaw5831]

Look, it's the Mark II Supra ll day anyways.

[@randyxyt5562]

I think the mk3 is the better choice, since it hasn't skyrocketed in price as much. Here in Switzerland they go for about 15-20k in good condition, and considering how rare they are here, that's almost a steal. I just saw a white stock one recently, and it had to have been the cleanest fucking car I've ever seen. I hope that they'll still be decently priced by the time I turn 18.

[@nathanielpena8903]

netgears disposition towards his own opinion is wild, what a jerry

[@barackhusseinobamaii3303]

Sup man

[@barackhusseinobamaii3303]

Forgot to join the dc last time iamma join now

[@barackhusseinobamaii3303]

Yes i am The chad of all chads

[@Mrdrcaptaintroy]

Not only are the RX7 tail lights better, it's a better looking car. I actually don't like the Supra tail lights at all

[@liamsgamingpcs7473]

the mk3 is better because it's affordable Under $8k for a turbo manual with low miles by the time you buy a mk4 just buy an Audi R8 or an 09' R35 GT-R. it'll be better in EVERY SINGLE WAY the mk4 supra is not a $50,000 car. your throwing 50k in the toilet By the time you get a mk4 supra it's no longer the sleeper, no longer the hero it once was

[@DrOpPsHoTtEd]

Netgear in this episode is off his meds

[@JohnnyMn4monic]

"By the way, its a salvage title"

[@uluvh2o]

I was og 😎