RANKING EVERY NBA MVP EVER

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[@Antreand]

The fact wilt and bill PROBABLY had triple double seasons with blocks but it wasn't counted

[@jaydenyoung4851]

I mean realistically they were swatting them bitches every game 😂

[@steviegreenthumb4720]

I mean shit Id have some crazy records too if there was only me and one other dude in the entire sport.

[@machoboys8884]

Bill, Wilt, Oscar, Cousy, West, Petit, Baylor, Thurmond, Lucas, Havlicek, there were quite a few all time greats out of this era

[@TellHerNothing]

@@steviegreenthumb4720Oscar?

[@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283]

then imagine wtf wilt had💀

[@erv_.]

94’ Hakeem should be S, 27,12,3,3,1 on 53% shooting, Dpoy, 58 wins

[@tonyis_lit1137]

Don’t forget finals mvp and nba champion he him

[@denizakin5645]

If giannis 2020 is S Hakeem is S. Also jokic 2022 is S imo.

[@wifi1872]

facts dude idk how they put giannis up there but not hakeem

[@paquinraino8180]

@@denizakin5645 Jokic 2022 don't win enough so no, only 2023 Jokic is the same level

[@denizakin5645]

@@paquinraino8180 if you purely look at wins without any context, sure I can see that. I don't like just looking at wins, because there's so much left out. Individually fantastic season.

[@Jordan123151]

To be fair to older players. The ball was constantly changing. Biggest change happening in 1970. You can literally see people's fg% jump from 69 to 70. This league has been anything but static

[@BlueGrovyle]

Using TS% just for James Harden is HILARIOUS. Ain't no way I'm the only one who peeped that.

[@statik4961]

That's how they do him. If it isn't TS% it's his freethrows. He leads the league w/ free throws removed, then they'll argue his post-season success. They wouldn't do the same to Kobe even though his TS is lower (57%) and averages near the same amount of FT in '08.

[@krozlyvassos3169]

@@statik4961hardens a bum

[@wat5709]

They literally mentioned it

[@BlueGrovyle]

@@wat5709 I must have missed it.

[@ngu_kunalt2]

Think they also used that for Russ's mvp

[@theinktician]

Oldheads spread the idea that Dr J was out of his prime in the NBA, but the TRUTH is that he was only 26 when the NBA and ABA merged -- the different coaching and rule set affected his game undeniably. Instead of just taking over he even had to defer to Moses (which was fair in the context )

[@saveyabreath680]

To be fair prime isn’t really about age it’s more just about when their peak was. And that varies for every player

[@saveyabreath680]

Chauncey didn’t hit his prime till he was 30?

[@T.H.E.O.R.Y.]

He played in 3 NBA Finals before Moses even came to the Sixers, all the while playing 3 college years and 9 in the ABA and being 5 years older than Moses who played no college ball and 2 years in the ABA.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Moses didn't join the Sixers until 82-83.

[@theinktician]

@@T.H.E.O.R.Y. Honestly if you're looking to defend him, you should really be saying he had to share the ball with other star forwards. But then again, he was better the year Moses came than he was his 1st year transitioning.

[@marvellous8325]

Being c with 20+ rebounds is wild 🤣

[@MrThuggzBunney]

Forreeall, and yet Wilt who got his ass smoked over and over and over again by Russell gets B and A tier??

[@BlueGrovyle]

I don't think it's as wild with context. I'm by no means a 60s hater and I think Russell deserves more credit in general, but rebounds meant _way_ less back then because there were more missed shots and stars were playing the entire game.

[@Jordan123151]

Agreed. I thought Solz was a Celts fan but he doesn't speak up for Russell at all.

[@BT405]

@@BlueGrovyle i mean the numbers were inflated but Russell and Wilt were still the only guys really grabbin boards like that. like even accounting for era they still clear everyone pretty easily

[@BlueGrovyle]

@@BT405 have you done this era adjustment yourself? I feel like most do one thing or the other, between adjusting for pace or MPG. I don't recall ever seeing someone adjust for average FG%, but it is clearly and intuitively required to be compared with modern stats. The rules around goaltending also used to be different, and blocks were not counted, so who knows how many goaltends Wilt, for example, got every year that were counted as _rebounds_ instead (provided that he could secure the rebound himself after stuffing the shot). Some people think he may have averaged 10 blocks per game in his prime, which makes that discussion really interesting, imo. They are definitely two of the very greatest rebounders in history and no one will scoff at you for saying they're 1 and 2, but there's a reason that people compare them to more modern players like Moses Malone, Dennis Rodman, etc. Elgin Baylor is from the same era as Russell and Wilt, and he grabbed an average of 13.5 rebounds per game for his career at the SF position, peaking at 19.8 for a single season. No, it's not 27 rebounds per game, but I think it's completely reasonable to be wary of giving them too much credit for that stat.

[@theinktician]

1994 Hakeem gotta get S too. MVP and DPOY -- and if you wanna add on to that with postseason stuff, he won that year too. Only person to win MVP DPOY and FMVP in the same year. He even shot 42% from 3. Yeah he only took 19, but hitting 8 of those as a big was crazy especially for the time

[@mixedpleasure4324]

You dont have to mention he was the mvp everybody on this list was the mvp but yeah he was also dpoy

[@Bigedub101]

Yeah

[@lllllllllll11llllllllll]

Won finals and finals mvp too definitely S

[@TLD4547]

We need to thank Solz & Sage for this content. They’ve been goin crazy these past few weeks 💯

[@coreyjasper8329]

The zibes are real

[@stephen-juanjavier8806]

*few months

[@weatherboy0149]

Absolutely. They’re some of the best content creators.

[@Celtics_fan_33]

Big facts

[@saniyahking713]

Yesss

[@SkodenMOC]

BSOLZ right when Sage called Nash a thief for 06 but Kobe did the same thing for CP3’s 08 mvp 😂

[@MineShackle]

He didn’t rob CP3 at all.

[@stevenmark4407]

@@MineShacklehe did CP3 should’ve won that

[@shepardice3775]

Nash didn't rob Kobe in 05-06. I hate the narrative that he did. He legit wouldn't have won if Nash didn't. You can argue Nash didn't deserve his 2nd MVP, but LeBron & Dirk came 2nd and 3rd in voting

[@MineShackle]

@@stevenmark4407 y’all entire argument for CP3 winning is is what? He led the league in assists?

[@caseygamber2000]

@@MineShackle^

[@futurekillerful]

Hakeems 94 season and shaqs 00 should have been S tbh

[@jaobille79]

they put Shaq on S tier

[@rapperbucks3203]

So as 91 mj

[@jamesfrankilin546]

Hakeem needed a S tier

[@adamwarburton2961]

Bruh harden at C tier is criminal 💀. 65 wins and took golden state to 7 games without cp3 in the last 2.

[@adamwarburton2961]

Literally beat Russ 2017 by himself in the playoffs, bro can't even get out the first round 🤣

[@statik4961]

and then give's Giannis an A when he robbed Harden of an MVP but knocks him for racing against one of the best players to touch a basketball. In the 18-19 season, James Harden averaged 36.1 ppg, to go along with 6.6 rebounds and 7.5 assists on 44/37/88 splits. He had nine 50 point games and twenty-eight 40 point games and averaged over 40ppg for a full calendar year.

[@connorsmith6517]

That was Lebrons mvp bro don’t cape

[@adamwarburton2961]

@@connorsmith6517 Nah

[@andrewlynch9586]

😂😂😂😂😂@@connorsmith6517

[@jamir-b8n]

the way solz hates on embiid and the sixers is actually crazy😭

[@ItsTerraTJ__]

ong 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheSodaShop]

Can't blame him ngl

[@gotaplanstan]

yeah but he right to dude is the only person in nba history that cried his way to a mvp lol

[@wow-xt1ng]

Harden?@@gotaplanstan

[@gotaplanstan]

@@wow-xt1ng no, he had most of the best analytics league wide in 2017-18

[@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law23]

These dudes had 2015 steph as a B averaging the least amount of points in the 2010s, but had harden at a C. Harden averaged more points rebounds assists, while shooting a 62% ts. The bias is strong 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@westbronco9066]

Steph didn’t even play the whole games that season, he only played 30 minutes a game. Per 36 minutes he averaged the same as other mvps

[@statik4961]

@@westbronco9066 Even then Harden had nine 50 point games and twenty-eight 40 point games. He averaged over 40ppg for a full calendar year.

[@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law23]

@@westbronco9066 Steph played 32.7 minutes a game harden played 35.4. Harden played 2.7 minutes more that’s it. Steph ain’t making a 7 points per game differential in 2.7 minutes,not to mention the 5 more rebounds a game and 3 more assist a game. I know they’re Steph fans, but they couldn’t have been a little less bias, it’s arguably the weakest mvp of the 2010s

[@Dranzer21]

@@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law23 Harden 2018 - 30.4/8.8/5.4 on 45/37/86 Steph 2015 - 23.8/7.7/4.3 on 49/44/91 Where is the 5 more rebound and 3 more assist? and yes I’m picking Steph he was far more efficient

[@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law23]

@@Dranzer21 accidentally grabbed the rebounds and assist from the year prior, but my point still stands it’s easy being efficient when you only averaged 23 points per game, while the other guy averages 7 more points than you. Sage and Solz favorite player is Steph, but they can’t even be a little non bias.

[@alexanderyelton6629]

Bill Russell underrated af, bro was running the point frequently and was the on floor coach for his last season.

[@DXHBKRKOY2J]

overrated af... 42 FG% as a center while playing with bunch of unathletic white midget is beyond disastrous.

[@king_dog726]

In the 60s lol

[@21Kolb]

I wish somebody would say, "you had to be there for wes unseld". 🤣

[@T.H.E.O.R.Y.]

You did. Do you know his story?

[@MrThuggzBunney]

Shit like this just expose how clueless yall are about basketball history

[@gangstagummybear3432]

Exactly

[@kdw.jahrell6944]

No one cares about basketball before 1985 let's keep it a buck

[@gangstagummybear3432]

@@kdw.jahrell6944 Alot of there list is sh1tty even concerning stuff after 85

[@stevenmark4407]

@@kdw.jahrell6944I care fym

[@MrThuggzBunney]

I dont disagree, but an L take is still an L take, ignorance doesnt save it@@kdw.jahrell6944

[@s.o.l.e2902]

“Who is captain…..MAGIC”😂😂😂😂

[@Snoorlacks]

I NEED more of these long videos bro. They make me laugh literally every time 😂 appreciate both of you and the fire vids yall make Solz and Sage fr 💯

[@orionrenaissance9222]

the moses disrespect is crazy, how are you gonna say you don't know ball then fuck moses and keep him in c lmao

[@monjikhechini9724]

Really enjoying the content rn, would be excited for a video like this with Finals MVP

[@leptonparticle238]

The greatest MVP season is MJ's 88. Scoring champ with 35ppg, and steals leader with DPOY?

[@MFindLove]

“If you’re white you can’t be near s tier”, Larry bird disrespect is crazy

[@churchhide]

94 Hakeem and 14 KD should have all been S tier.

[@Bigedub101]

Exactly

[@rapperbucks3203]

💀

[@TheGigaChigger]

We gonna talk about how bob petit was averaging 16 rebounds?

[@da17vinci]

The Larry Bird disrespect is blasphemous

[@alanacevedo4928]

2016 Steph is imo the best MVP season. Im biased but seeing the literal video game things he’d do and a daily basis and getting the 73-9 was just special

[@gotaplanstan]

I'm not biased and you right 100% lol

[@puncho8799]

73-9 doesn’t mean a thing without the ring👌🏽

[@thedargon6899]

2013 Lebron

[@thedargon6899]

2000 shaq

[@king_dog726]

Haha​@@puncho8799

[@vintagemonte]

real video starts at 18:17 😂

[@colinwolf13]

Solz and Sage doing a con-chair-to to Embiid's MVP run is nutty

[@vlad6331]

I love when you guys do videp like this. keep the good work fam.

[@jarvisbutler8254]

i may be biased as a rockets fan but 2018 james harden at c is a crazy to me. 2019 giannis is not two tiers above harden. also hakeem is a s tier.

[@rezarfar]

The Larry Bird hate was stupid, easily A tier.

[@elidavis3511]

These mfs have been cooking since the “create more than react” pivot 🔥

[@nb2078]

These dudes are casual as hell

[@GregoryKeller]

I rock with you guys but the old-school players you guys didn’t see y’all sound like basketball, reference merchants.

[@emmanuelmondesir]

10:56 « That’s gay? » Bro is flabbergasted

[@gotaplanstan]

yo when talking about '88 mj you said "magic, bird, and larry" 🤣🤣🤣

[@MIKA_SUBSCRIBE]

1962 MVP should've been Wilt. Bro averaged 50. He would be in S+ tier

[@Yeezy_Yeet]

We love durag boy and Asian man

[@nuckleupbtch]

The amount of glazing in this video is insane

[@christianjohnson2918]

Man, I misunderstood & thought this was Barry’s Finals MVP video, but this it still lit 😎

[@T.H.E.O.R.Y.]

Rick Barry?

[@christianjohnson2918]

@@T.H.E.O.R.Y. Barry McCockiner

[@DJDizzy8]

Wait, So Jordan's 72 win season is not S-tier?

[@johncena-6675]

Bro n do you see how fast they glazed curry and then put him in s and said his mvp year is the greatest foh😭

[@thenapkinofkanye1331]

​@@johncena-6675avg 30 on 50/40/90 is crazy tho

[@AstroSully]

@@johncena-6675Saying 2016 MVP is one of the best years is not glazing wtf? Bro had 30 points on 50/40/90 lmao

[@Biggiesmallsjr]

Hakeem 94’ is easily S 27-12-3-3-1 on 53% FG dpoy 58 wins championship and finales mvp

[@bbqblazekyleg7551]

I feel like it’s inconsistent for james hardens to be C when he averaged everything higher than 2015 curry and had similar wins. Not to mention people were doubting if cp3 was even gonna work

[@Bigedub101]

Curry 2015 was C and Harden was at least B

[@johncena-6675]

I just can't stand curry meat riders😂 how is curry above him when harden averaged 7 more points like cmonnnn

[@randymanninen5213]

​@@johncena-6675to be fair harden averaged over 10 freethrows per game and curry averaged 5 per game and played 5 min less every game aswell they're both pretty close to me I wouldn't say curry overrated

[@AstroSully]

@@johncena-6675Harden was shot more than double FT per game that’s why lol.

[@MrKonfusion]

D-Rose on C wtf, he was a walking highlight reel.

[@haoye2413]

Yeah D-Rose year should at least A. Bull improved from 36-46 to 62-20, and he was playing against Miami Big 3, still competitive 08Celtic crew, Laker just got a championship, Prime Dwight and MAgic, Dirk's Mav and Tim Duncan's Spur with 61 win. It was a tough year for that era and he still got 113 MVP votes.

[@mo.magas824]

“Magic, Bird and Larry” - Sage, 2023 😂

[@Eyoballin]

I feel like Hakeem shoulda been S. MVP DPOY and FMVP in the same year is nasty

[@acvibes1703]

I’m only 25 but please stop the Bob Cousy slander like bruh ☠️

[@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12]

How is curry’s mvp over bron and Jordan’s when they were levels above him defensively?

[@JT-km6th]

Curry gets sucked off, some even say he's the best of this generation loool. If Curry's 16 is S then Hakeem gets S, MJ gets 2 more S, LeBron gets another S, KD could be S

[@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12]

@@JT-km6th right bro lol I NEVER understand why they don’t take defense In consideration while having these discussions. I don’t really have a problem with 2016 being S tier but to rank it above Jordan and lebron is crazy when they were DOMINANT on both sides of the floor

[@andrewlynch9586]

i don't agree with curry being 1 but i see how one could make the argument. that's probably the best offensive season of all time.

[@itaflamingodoe863]

Curry had the best offensive season ever bro. Jordan and lebron aren’t big men and we’re not transcendent enough on defense for that to outweigh currys offense in some of their seasons. People need to stop acting like offense and defense matter equally in basketball. I’m offense clearly is more important hence why all the best offensive players are considered the best players

[@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law23]

⁠​⁠@@itaflamingodoe863Advanced analytics show that Jokics mvp season was the best offensive season ever. Acting like defense doesn’t matter when it comes to basketball is insane, in the last decade all teams that made the finals have been a top 5 defense in the league outside of the cavs.

[@jakubkubalek5036]

old era hate is real too

[@najihalexander]

The funniest part is Bob Cousy would do sage and Solz filthy at the same time 😂😂😂😂🤷🏽‍♂️

[@_tuss1731]

2022 Jokic deserved the S tier 😢

[@Princecharisma111]

Curry 2015 B tier and harden C tier ? Do research. That’s ridiculous

[@rafaelkovac4211]

How the fuck Hakeem is not S tier? MVP, Finals MVP, third in scoring, DPOY, first ALL NBA and ALL DEFENSE...

[@lukacalov1988]

Lmfao when Sage started to hype up Embiid and Bsolz sayin he is poors man Bob Mcadoo

[@Princecharisma111]

Basketball isn’t just looking at stats

[@MarkMcKimm]

This is such a casual list 😂

[@gangstagummybear3432]

Iverson 01 at C equals this tier list is good comedy for me

[@bbcpfghs]

C tier is where he belongs. He could go higher if he didn’t shoot 42% from the field

[@gangstagummybear3432]

@@bbcpfghs Only 3 players I know of shot higher than that at the volume, Jordan Elgin Baylor and Wilt, 2 of those players were players that could opt out of actual shooting and dunk, all 3 played in a trash defensive era, so yeah, having no other 20 ppg scorers on his team to take heat off of him putting up that volume with that shot selection says YES he does deserve to be much higher than that.

[@captainfalcon2878]

The fact sage have 2000 shaq dead last in best mvp is a choice

[@browniegarcia-zu4ys]

When you people can the average 24 rebounds, don’t talk shit about bill Russell

[@anthonytrevino3191]

alright yall make some good content, I’m subscribing

[@RN_LR]

Yo you guys weren’t playing when you said that you guys were gonna step up your game in terms of video making. I’m not saying that the old reaction videos were bad, but these past 10 vids or so have been on another level. Y’all goin crazy

[@Kings0424]

Hell nah bruh. My boy James Harden should've won MVP in 2019. The dude averaged like damn near 37 points per game. How the hell he didn't win MVP this year

[@Grievous_]

Alright bro yall sum HATERS, a lot more of the older players should’ve been A tier and B tier! Kareem should’ve been in more S tiers but what pissed me off is how much yall were UNDERRATING Larry Bird then Sage had the audacity to say F Larry Bird, tf did he do to you? Larry Bird 2nd and 3rd Mvp are in A tier for me

[@REbonkulas]

I ain’t gon lie it’s been a while since I’ve waited for someone to post. Shout outs to y’all content going crazyyy!!

[@ShaquanFromKP]

Yall are my favorite youtubers right now

[@RoyJohnson-b2e]

Magic gets A Bird definitely deserves an A

[@acjnse8258]

Come on one of Steve Nash’s seasons should be A, without him those Suns would have been a lottery team

[@catrelljones831]

Hakeem not Bering S is nasty

[@whenisdinner2137]

Now do finals MVPs

[@whatwhatwhat2939]

westbrook mvp > any Kareem MVP is insane

[@evilkid31able]

S Tier for '94 Olajuwon. DPOY. More or less carried that team to 57 wins as the lone star.

[@deepmaidenforce]

Solz kills me with how much he emulates the joe budden podcast lol iykyk

[@masternas45]

These niggas saying middle names be killing me. Like they know them niggas. 💀

[@ankhboldcrain9954]

The criteria for these rankings are all over the place for the 60s

[@Alex-ib6mh]

nah, that 84 bird take is crazy. I think that might be the celtic hate in you dog.

[@jordanned3075]

Y’all really showing bias to MVP seasons that you witnessed.

[@goncalomesquita8620]

the Celtics fan guy is wilding with Embiid in C/B lol

[@matthewmultiplayer5947]

Heavy hate on the ogs

[@notimeoffbaka1186]

2016 Steph goat mvp

[@collegedropout2766]

Steph 16 szn should be on a tier by itself.. 30 on 50/45/90 73-9 changed the game

[@Bilaldane]

W vid good ol' vibes Need more tier lists

[@Joe-fd7qv]

Crazy that if Jokic had won MVP in 2023 it would’ve been one of the greatest MVP seasons of all time and clear S tier. But he lost to an MVP season that’s probably around a B tier. Goes to show the award really doesn’t mean shit.

[@rollingpaper-x2u]

2023 jokic if he won would of been God tier

[@Placd]

It’s cuz they hate Embiid for no reason even though he was the REGULAR season MVP easily

[@KeshawnCage]

Solz and sage tiers is hilarious

[@C6LD]

Last few videos been crazy 😂

[@NateMcCoy1194]

This the first time heel Solz triggered me. C on Kobe?!?!????! Ain’t no way!!!!!

[@JT-km6th]

Hakeem should be S and MJ 1st 3peat or '96 should be S

[@xisckillerx7578]

Embiid hate is so hard to deal with

[@nomongosinthaworld]

It’s hard to not hate on Embiid if anything

[@bryantrodriguez2969]

Kids today don’t understand the carry job Hakeem did .

[@CrimsonUniverse22]

Bro, 2003 Tim is at least A-tier. Come on now.

[@davonbrack2705]

i wanna get on the show solz b tripping

[@El_Bueno]

This fool and his disrespect of Larry Bird.

[@JSTheOperator]

I see the drum and bass background music…..*200+ respect *

[@chiefkeefsson9979]

2016 Steph is still the BEST because he sat out 4th quarters bc they were fucking teams up that much 😭😭😭

[@Themillhouse88]

37 and 27 and only getting B tier is absolutely wild.

[@Dottor_J]

Stats inflated by that era

[@exgeeinteractive]

MJ's 1991 season is literally S tier

[@s.o.l.e2902]

I appreciate the daily NBA content I need this

[@idon4697]

i hope everyone here to have good year and solz and sage blow up bc ur pretty funny and be rich as shit

[@hakanerdem780]

AI should be at A tier at least brought a team of nobodys to the finals while beeing 5‘11“ leading the league in scoring and steals of course he wasnt very efficient but he didnt had any help offensively

[@PLAYMAKERMAINE]

Kobe at c tier is wild

[@jaobille79]

CP3 had an argument that 08 season. But yea I have Kobe at least B tier

[@yaomitch]

And he said “at least he got 1 MVP” dudes a hater