Personally I disagree with Kazuya’s placement. You mention how it’s not that special after getting the shotos (Ryu and Ken.) and Terry, but ignore how at least 10% of the complete roster is comprised of sword users. IMO, Kazuya was a breath of fresh air. There are only 4 fighting game characters in smash which isn’t a lot, but multiple “anime sword characters”. And before you accuse me of being salty, I’m not. I actually really like your list! And I appreciate how you didn’t just lump every 1st party DLC character at the bottom like every other smash reveal tier list.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Oh I totally get the criticism for the Kazuya placement! I was debating putting him higher because they did a great job with him but just really couldn't when compared to the rest of the characters. It just goes to show how great the fighter passes were overall :)
@theperians3 жыл бұрын
Honestly after i played Tekken and considering the music (Plucking Tuilps is one of the best music in any video game imo) and how fun Kayuza is the third best
@maikayee2463 жыл бұрын
Probably the most unbiased and fair review I’ve seen yet.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Thanks San Juan, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@javisingsmusic94443 жыл бұрын
when the video started all i could say is "this is a road, this is a rainbow road", but also you're SO HIDEOUSLY.... BEAUTIFUL, i really enjoyed your reasoning for why you put every character where you did the steve section really resonated with me and that's all that matters, the banjo reaction is still my favorite reaction hands down! keep up the great work!!
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I'll never see "HIDEOUSLY.... BEAUTIFUL" in a sentence ever again lol. Thanks as always Javi :) I don't usually enjoy watching myself but my Banjo reaction really makes me happy lol
@AshenDemon3 жыл бұрын
9:56 You realize that the majority of people paid for Piranha Plant right? Only people who bought the game in the first week got him for free.
@castform73 жыл бұрын
TLDR; Yeah this got pretty long so here's the list from worst to best. Plant, Byleth, Min Min, Banjo, Kazuya, Hero, The Aegis, Steve, Sora, Sephy, Joker and Terry. Wanna know why? Go at your own risk. Long version: I've had to think of a long while for my personal ranking. I haven't played any of the games the (paid) DLC came from but my placings are probably gonna hinge more on whether I like playing them or not rather than looking t their content as a whole. I'll try to be as objectively subjective as possible though. *#12 Plant:*Plant Gang will always live on but come on. There isn't exactly a contest here. No stage or music and they come from a series that still has good canidates for characters. Plus his playstle is certainly reminicent of a Piranha Plant but it kind of eh at best Sorry Plant, it had to be this way. *#11Byleth**:* I *really* like playing Byleth. They're part of my top 3 DLC characters to play. But I just could not put them higher cause.....well....it's Byleth. A horribly timed DLC fighter with the worst trailer in Smash history. Three Houses music hits but it's doesn't *hit* hit. Their stage is fine but nothing to special, just a standard travelling stage. *#10 Min Min* I like everything *around* Min Min. Banger stage. Banger music. Min Min herself though is just so bland. She just does the same thing over and over cause that's basically all she can do. At least she reps ARMS amazingly. Boring, repetive and makes you want to play something else. *#9 Banjo* Okay okay here me out. Banjo is definitely a well deserved character and I'm glad he definitely should be here. It's just that.....nothing hits for me. The character, while having great references, basically requires spamming projectiles to get anywhere. Spiral Mountain is pretty nauseating. The music is fine but doesn't work in a Smash setting for me. That's all just me though. *#8 Kazuya: This one mostly comes down to me not really knowing how to play him properly thus not really liking him to much. Other than that, Kazuya's awesome. Great love for his home moveset. Mishima Dojo is an awesome and fun stage. The music is pretty sick. Yeah, it's really uphill after Banjo. *#7 Hero* Hero will never not be funny. Since they have such an expansive special moveset, Hero games are so unique from one another. I just find that pretty fun. Other than that he's pretty middle of the road. The stage is okay but the music is not a vibe whatsoever. *#6 The Aegis* These are my favourite DLC characters to play. They are so much fun, both of them. Like Byleth though, I don't feel comfortable putting them too high. Xenoblade tracks are amazing and their stage is okay. Nothing special but nothing bad. *#5 Steve* I have never played Minecraft and it still feels like Steve just jumped (or mined in this case) out of his game to Smash.....which is partially his problem. Steve's are playing a totally different game and it's not fun on the giving or recieving end. If I had a nickel for everytime I got annoyed by a Steve, I'd be righting this comment in a mansion. Other than his playstyle he's pretty cool. Minecraft World's a cool stage and he has some pretty good tracks. *#4 Sora* I honestly can't think of a btter way to end the FP and an era of Smash in general that wasn't Sora with how amazing his inclusion was. Was a bit of a shame we couldn't get a bit more uniqueness probably due to Disney. I'm fine with him being more simplistic though. Hollow Bastions a pretty standard stage and the music's pretty okay. Kind of just spam Fates of Sorrow or whatever it's called though. Just so good. *#3 Sephiroth* The only trailer I think tops Sephiroth is "Everyone is Here". Other than that it's no contest whatsoever, it was too damn good. His moveset is really fun and he really gives off that "you're playing the villain energy". Plus, I can finally say we have actual FF content in this game without feeling like I'm lying to myself. *#2 Joker* Having Joker as the start of FP 1 was one of the greatest ideas Nintendo has had. This was an almost perfect bang to start with. While I'm not the biggest fan of playing him, his moveset is pretty cool. Momentos is a pretty fine stage and do I really need to talk about Persona music. We already know. *#1 Terry* I did not know who Terry was before Smash and I do not care. He is (in my opinion) the best DLC. He reps his game but to a point where my tiny brain can get his inputs. His stage is my favourite DLC stage. He has 50 music tracks of mostly bangers (that's more than most Nintedo franchises). Overall just amazing DLC and (if he was more well known) would've been a great end to FP 1.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good list! I completely understand your reasoning for putting Banjo so low. He def gets dragged down by his mediocre song selection (despite his games having great music) and the stage being a nightmare lol
@castform73 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash Thank you. Yeah, I think Banjo-Kazooie music's pretty nice and I don't even hate his tracks in Smash since I listen to them from time to time outside the game. Just doesn't really fit in Smash for me. Also after reading over my comment I just facepalm at some errors I didn't notice. You have spelling and grammar things like me saying righting instead of writing along with me saying I didn't enjoy playing Steve.....but say I like his playstyle when I actually meant how well he takes from his home game. That's the problem with making long comments. I never really proof read so I come back to a bit of a mess.
@BigRigCreates3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Byleth is the most hype DLC character in Smash history. With the combination of the sacred weapons of the three houses, Byleth has done the unthinkable in terms of generating hype. In this essay, I will attempt to... Read More
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Sad to say that the "Read More" got me lol
@AshenDemon3 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash Same here. I tried clicking it 3 times then my brain was like oh, it was fake.
@larryflaco83203 жыл бұрын
My top 3 based off of play style and fun Joker Sephiroth Terry
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good list! I'd put Aegis in the top 3 myself since I think moving around as Mythra feels really good
@tomasgarcia74993 жыл бұрын
I like your list! Sephiroth and Banjo and Kazooie are my fave inclusions. And low key Byleth too lol….I love three houses SOOOOO much. (Although having Dimitri in would’ve been cool 😩). Sephiroth I like bc of Final Fantasy being my favorite franchise and I grew up with B&K so that’s why I love them.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tomas! I'm a big B-K and Three Houses fan myself, I just wish they didn't use the custom character as the inclusion in Smash again ;-;
@hakirayleigh3 жыл бұрын
2:36 That decision would be even more disappointing cause Sakurai would have showed us some bias towards one route. The best decision was all the three leaders Pokemon fighter system or Byleth. On the other hand, Byleth being the final pass 1 character could be not hype for fans but in marketing term was the best decision, cause Three Houses won a lot of prizes in Japan and Game awards popular election. The only way I could think about changing figther pass order to be more hype, it would be: Hero, Terry, Banjo, Byleth and finally Joker.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
For sure, if all was right in the world we could have had the Three House leaders in one character ;-; You're on the order of the character releases making the difference though and I really like yours!
@Big-Image3 жыл бұрын
A bit off topic. Each Smash game has something that makes them stand out from each other. Those being; 64's secret characters, Melee's competitiveness, Brawl's Subspace Emissary, Smash for 3DS' Smash Run, Smash for Wii U's uhh....., and Ultimate's massive roster.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Very true! I'd say Wii/3DS go hand in hand with the big draw being that it was one both consoles along with custom moves being a unique gimmick
@Willcheetah243 жыл бұрын
Finally someone doing dlc based on everything not just weather they like it or not 🙂
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy making mostly non-biased ranking videos! I think it's fun to try to look at stuff like this objectively and seeing how it pans out :)
@Willcheetah243 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash tbh I was looking for one like this for a while because I saved up my gold coins and I have enough to buy a smash character I just wasn’t sure what one to buy but this video helped me out!
@AshenDemon3 жыл бұрын
My List 1 is the best, 11 is the worst. MY OPINION 11. Sora 10. Kazuya (I was so disappointed when seeing him, all the hype of a new character died and the only reason he's not on the bottom is because I hate Sora) 9. Banjo & Kazooie 8. Min Min 7. Terry (Terry is cool but I don't play him because a lot of his cool moves are behind special inputs. If I wanted to play a fighting game I'd go play a fighting game.) 6. Sephiroth 5. Byleth 4. Hero 3. Piranha Plant 2. Steve/Joker 1. Pyra & Mythra
@lulululu88283 жыл бұрын
Why do you hate sora
@AshenDemon3 жыл бұрын
@@lulululu8828 Because I hate him... What'd you expect to see down here? Okay, I'll tell you why, because Up B kills too early, he takes on brain cells to play, his ugly smile is annoying to look at, his voice is annoying, and I hate his existence.
@AshenDemon2 жыл бұрын
@@lulululu8828 Oh one more thing, his smash attacks have no lag (Mythra's don't either but Mythra is backed up by a great storyline from her game that I loved...) his neutral is just him spamming Fire, he has PK freeze part 2, he also has lightning and he's cringy.
@terrysyvertson92053 жыл бұрын
actually, sora did in fact get leaked on 4chan by someone who worked for Disney's music department but the leak went under the radar
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had a friend mention it to me after I made this video but hadn't heard much about it. As far as leaks go this one was held under warps well overall
@JAProductions4943 жыл бұрын
I can safely say that I disagree with Piranha Plant and you were correct in thinking that I was a plant main 😂 Yes he’s silly but that’s why I love the bugger. Also, it has a great recovery and that automatically makes him good in my eyes as I die from pits more than anything else in Smash (and by pits I mean bottomless pits not Kid Icarus Pits)
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
LMAO I KNEW IT. Nothing wrong with liking the wacky characters, that's why ROB has had such a committed following over the years
@castform73 жыл бұрын
I made a list of the general best DLC overall so heres my list on who I like playing the most from worst to best. Min Min, Steve, Plant, Banjo, Kazuya, Joker, Hero, Sora, Sephy, Byleth,Terry, The Aiges.
@liroanimations50903 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the ranking video a lot Pow Pow! And the gags and jokes just keep better and better! Hope u have a great day man.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for the support Bolt! Your comments always brighten my day and I hope you have a great day too :)
@liroanimations50903 жыл бұрын
PowPow, I’m glad I can support you in any way because I love your videos. They also make my day when I watch them. Starting a new conversation with you every video about a different topic is just so much fun.
@ramsesjfg76683 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting much but this list is good, even with my insane amount of bias towards Banjo. It's easy to forget Joker's impact, since it was so long ago, but he definitely deserves the #1 spot. The only thing I would disagree with is putting Pyra/Mythra over Kazuya, even if you did pretty much admit that you just didn't want to put all the 1st parties at the bottom. Kazuya has an awesome moveset with a ton of depth to it though, and both the Tekken music selection and stage were better than the XC2 ones. Still, good job putting Banjo above Steve at least.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you enjoyed the list! I would've loved to put Banjo #1 but there's just no denying how great Sora, Sephiroth, and Joker's additions were. Yeah if I were to do this list over again Kazuya would definitely be higher
@Sonic_bro_90003 жыл бұрын
i will admit sora is a very fitting end to smash bros ultimate but seeing how we have so many other sword characters i think we should at least trade out pyra and mythra, byleth, kazuya, min min, and piranna plant for geno, shadow, crash bandicoot, master chief, and waluigi
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Kazuya, min min, and piranha plant aren't sword characters though?
@Sonic_bro_90003 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash i just want those characters gone anyways
@MikeyLuigi643 жыл бұрын
You should still play Persona 5, it’s worth every second
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I would love to but all of my time is sucked up by work, making video, spending time with friends/family, and competing in Smash tournaments right now ;-;
@nathanfriends72712 жыл бұрын
I care that the plant is in the game solved your problem
@Lexicon8653 жыл бұрын
Kazuya's way too low. Shame to see constantly underappreciated Tekken and Kazuya's inclusion as a whole. Also three other FG characters being added before Kazuya does not hurt his inclusion since he's the first and only one that's from a 3D fighting game while the rest are from 2D fighting games.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Completely understandable, like I said I think every character starting with Kazuya on this list was a great addition! He's the one character I debated moving and putting higher on the list but ultimately decided against it Also Sonic and Link has been in a 3D fighters before (Sonic the Fighters and Soul Caliber II) so technically Kazuya is the third 3D fighting game character ;) jk that's a good point
@eternal_seokjin74413 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash I think what they meant is that he originated from a 3D fighter game*** But that's cool too.
@eternal_seokjin74413 жыл бұрын
Honestly, there are two ways in tackling ranking Kazuya, in generality speaking... For some, I saw them rank Kazuya at high-A tier or even low-S tier (assuming S is highest) for the sole reason that is "huge potential", because it seems unfair that barely anyone mains him, in addition there's also a possibility that there will be a Kazuya player better than Riddles. (additionally he does have good kits) But then, there's the other side of the spectrum where they rank him a bit low as an "underwhelming DLC" just because he is complicated for the sake of what? Additionally, when they pick him up, they don't feel anything special with them unless if they have to sweat the character like hell, and so far, there's nothing that big and special with him for them, some may even consider him too slow. Edit: For now I really want a good Tekken Kazuya main player to go into Smash Ultimate (Since learning curve ain't that big and these types of people are already used to sweat and extreme learning curves) to show the max potential of Smash Kazuya. But for now, all I can see is that 80% of Tekken players despise Smash Ultimate, so highly unlikely.
@AshenDemon3 жыл бұрын
When I saw him all I felt was disappointment.
@gracecairns97473 жыл бұрын
Kazuya didn’t look that appealing to me but then I started playing him and I love his move set and stage
@silverdragoon273 жыл бұрын
Oof not the same feels for Kazuya there pal he was the most hype for me
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the feedback I've gotten from the comments on this video is that Kazuya was my biggest miss on this list. Def considered putting him higher and it sounds like I should've lol
@rockstarpyro15813 жыл бұрын
Although I don't agree with your list,I'm really happy you put Banjo and Kazooie above Steve
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
That's the only victory that matters
@lamarcarlisle90072 жыл бұрын
Only if that they added a Few More DLC I Would Have Loved 2 See Them Do Sagat Or Akuma That Would Be Dope❗
@scotthacker5433 жыл бұрын
The video currently sits at 252 views and per our agreement, Brianna and I are owed $4.04 for using our likeness in this video. 😝 Good video and I very much agree with your positioning of this list.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
This was a terrible deal, you're going to make more money off of this video than I am LOL. Glad you enjoyed the video Scott! I wish I could've put Banjo higher ;-;
@scotthacker5433 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash me too! His legacy and reveal alone is what put him where he was at but his move set kept him from being 2 or 3. I do think Joker is the best one too
@silverslayer62622 жыл бұрын
11:04 Theres a reason why we don’t talk about that sorry excuse for an anime adaptation.
@PowPowSmash2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard it's not very good lol. Hard to make an anime about a game that long
@gatoman43263 жыл бұрын
You have the worst opinions on planet earth but man the quality of this video is really good for a small channel
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what's that controversial about this list besides Kazuya and maybe Steve being too low but I'm glad that you enjoyed the video regardless of my opinions :)
@DaneReich3 жыл бұрын
I would never tell Reed he's ugly. I'm not a liar.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Dane my goat
@AshenDemon3 жыл бұрын
1:10 I don't think an ASSIST TROPHY should get in before plant.
@Emansupergamer2 жыл бұрын
I like this ranking though I would change certain placements (Kazuya and Hero could be a bit higher imo), it's still a good list and I love your content. I prefer this list above so many.
@PowPowSmash2 жыл бұрын
Thanks E! If I did this list over again I definitely would have out Kazuya higher. I'm glad that you enjoyed the video regardless though :)
@Emansupergamer2 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash you welcome, keep up the good work can’t wait for your next upload
@PowPowSmash2 жыл бұрын
@@Emansupergamer I'll do my best thank you!
@Braylon19972 жыл бұрын
@@Emansupergamer imo kazuya is a great dlc fighter in the smash community
@screwdriver10422 жыл бұрын
At least we can all agree that Min Min was forgettable. Hell, up until yesterday, I honestly forgot she was even in the game. Her inclusion was clearly meant to shill ARMS like 'Hey do you remember ARMS?' but that fucking failed. It worked with Pyra and Mythra (in Japan) but with ARMS it just didnt do anything.
@onewingedakuma68353 жыл бұрын
Kazuya honestly should not be lower than Pyra and Mythra. Actually Kazuya is way too low overall. At least Sephiroth is not too low. Even though Sephiroth should have been number 1 instead of Joker.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with putting Sephiroth above Joker but if I had to do this list over again I would definitely move Kazuya up I just thought it would be lame to put all of the first party DLC characters at the bottom and think very highly of Pyra Mythra
@Chan-ko2if3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Reed, very cool
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Chan :)
@ramenbomberdeluxe49583 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash Speaking of smash, I await your next video >->
@juandavidamadomartin80153 жыл бұрын
I agree on Byleth and MinMin as a Steve Main I can say STEVE moveset is HORRIBLE and the worst DLC design ever... Also agree that the best reveal trailer in Smash history is Sephiroth's trailer that trailer is GOD-TIER
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the combo of minecart and wall building is just too uninteractive and frustrating. I'd rather Steve just have better mobility and no minecart I know right? There's not really anything they could've done better in the Sephiroth trailer
@MashupProductions223 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I think nia or morag would have been better in smash but I don't mind that we have pyra and mythra
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
I would've been very down for Nia but I think Pyra/Mythra were the right call if you can only pick one character from the game to represent it
@ja31883 жыл бұрын
Bruh persona 5 royal sure it's a long game but it's 124h of pure enjoyment, i promise
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
The problem is in too busy working full time and making these videos to have time to play games like that 😭
@ja31883 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash it's unfortunate, you miss something
@simnm80573 жыл бұрын
I feel like steve should be higher I like his moveset
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
He would've been higher if his moveset didn't make him the most uninteractive character in Smash Ultimate unfortunately
@larryflaco83202 жыл бұрын
hot take: drangon king form dragon king would be a better ending than sora since the entire series gose full circle i stilll like sora hes one of my most wanted
@PowPowSmash2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of the series Dragon King I'll be honest
@jerrientisdale6349 Жыл бұрын
there are 3 sega characters in smash. Sonic Joker and bayonetta
@jenniferpratt30073 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m wondering are you a full time youtuber
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't make enough money doing KZbin to do it full time but I put enough hours in each week to treat it like a full time job 😂 I would love to quit my day job and do KZbin full time if it ever gets to that point where it's feasible for me though!
@jenniferpratt30073 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash maybe you could move in with a friend if there ok with it to try to grow you platform until your ready to go
@ramenbomberdeluxe49583 жыл бұрын
I hope this video isnt going to bandwagon crap all over Byleth for reasons that are either completely invalid or exaggerated to all heck. Otherwise I'm going to file a complaint to Lady Rhea and commission a crusade against your channel. Jokes aside, once again, I'm interested in the list.
@Radiant_Emerald3 жыл бұрын
Byleth ended up being a more interesting character than like 40% of the dlc fighters
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
LOL. As I say in the vid, I love Fire Emblem and even I was unhappy with Byleth's addition. Three Houses def deserved a rep but Byleth wasn't the right pick imo and came out at the absolute worst time unfortunately
@ramenbomberdeluxe49583 жыл бұрын
@@Radiant_Emerald Like the guy said in the video, it was mostly just poor timing, the immaturity/elitism of certain smash fans, and the fact that Byleth could have been EVEN BETTER by making them like a Pokemon Trainer character, who calls in and out the three house leaders at will, and only joins in at the final smash. Byleth's inclusion wasn't perfect, but I feel like that one was just...a gross situation to deal with. Even my MASCOT got in with more dignity, lmao
@ramenbomberdeluxe49583 жыл бұрын
@@PowPowSmash Eeeyup! Thats fine man, I agree with you. The only thing I'm against, honestly, is the community elitist reaction to it, ya know? Thats not healthy, but criticism such as you might have brought up, IS.
@Radiant_Emerald3 жыл бұрын
1:13 Pauline? I don't see it...but Nabbit could work.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
If they could make Rosalina and Peach work I don't see why Pauline couldn't! A music based moveset would be really cool
@MashupProductions223 жыл бұрын
Your forgetting about WALUIGI
@mastanvx3 жыл бұрын
I care about Piranha Plant :(
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
You're only the second person in this comment section to say that so my theory of plant fans being hard to find is holding up
@itzamep3infinite2 жыл бұрын
You ha 2 dag because bayonetta is sega same as sonic
@joshuawindsor8953 жыл бұрын
Meh.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
.heM
@dbs-zz7lq3 жыл бұрын
They should add Goku.
@PowPowSmash3 жыл бұрын
Sakurai already said they won't be adding characters that didn't originate from video games sorry
@armandom38422 жыл бұрын
L list
@PowPowSmash2 жыл бұрын
How so? The main criticism I've heard is Kazuya is too low, which I agree with in retrospect