Ranking Every Sonic Forces Level

[@toamatoro570]

"And a decent run time of 40 seconds" Forces in one sentence, basically.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Eh Every level is about 1 Minute (not counting QTE’s) if you’re Above Average in terms of Skill.

[@lks19]

@@Terminal_Apotos "Above average", yeah right. I mean, it's somehow easier to get S ranks in this game than Gens.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@lks19 I’m saying people who know the Fastest Route and how to utilize the Physics/Move set to carry out skips throughout the level. Ranks Mean nothing in Forces.

[@jayevans6146]

@@Terminal_Apotos wooh a whole minute. So much more than *40 seconds*

[@jayevans6146]

**Frontiers

[@StockeTepes]

Cannot believe it been 5 years, the disappointment from finishing this game still feels so fresh lol. While many of these levels had great moments & ideas most all of them were SO SHORT. I found that being my biggest disappointment with so many of them. There were a lot of times where I felt like a level was JUST getting good and then it just… ended. Hope the Cyberspace Levels in Frontiers learn from this game 😔

[@son-of-1810]

We’ll, the cyberspace stages aren’t the meat of Frontiers so the focus definitely wasn’t on them. They’re not terrible, they’ve reused level layouts from previous games but it’s on purpose here, so it has meaning. But almost everyone who’s played the Frontier’s demo has said the game is either good or great, just that cyberspace is the weakest part.

[@lakotapruitt5773]

@@son-of-1810 while they may not be the main meat of Frontiers, they do seem to gradually pick up in quality as the game goes on, with 1-7 being the best Cyberspace level we've seen so far. If they can keep that momentum going for the rest of the game, then Cyberspace might be worth checking out.

[@lolcat]

They aren't. Look just as barren and short. Dunno why people are expecting much from the same team lol

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

from what we've seen, they don't as they're just as short

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

@@son-of-1810 "I was lazy ON PURPOSE so it's okay!"

[@comicfan1324]

16:20 Interesting thing about the giant infinite creatures. There’s a glitch where you can use the void wisp’s Secret hover ability (that you can only activate if used to teleport and you land above a death pit) you can actually walk inside those things arms (since he never hit them they don’t have collision) and on the inside they actually have a blue water texture instead of the black one we see in the final product. Makes me wonder if those things were initially meant to be Perfect Chaos’ originally?

[@feiradragon7915]

Wouldn't surprise me. They look so weird compared to Infinite himself and the fact Chaos was brought back as an illusion like the other antagonists makes me think the devs had at least some plan for him. Really wish there'd been a Chaos boss and a Shadow clone boss. The game plot hinted at that happening without doing anything with it, even in the dlc content.

[@supermariozelda]

Their model skeletons are shaped like Chaos as well. The skeleton includes what would be Chaos' head tendrils.

[@auto1auto153]

They themselves look like Perfect Chaos so i wont be surprised if that was the original idea

[@shadowclone452]

My main issue with forces is one that a lot of people don't seem to talk about (or at least articulate very well). It's the acceleration physics. When you first start walking, you barely seem to move at all, but then in the span of about 1 second, you hit top speed. This makes platforming feel VERY strange. I either jump right after moving the control stick and barely go anywhere at all, or I wait slightly too long and send myself flying over the platform I was aiming at. I can adjust to this, but I can't help but feel like I shouldn't have to, y'know? It feels like a very specific "game feel" problem that is unique to Forces.

[@Kirbstern4]

Same here. It was the first thing I noticed back when I tried out the JP-only switch demo of the game

[@jravee5994]

"You can die on this hill if you want, but Lord knows you won't gain speed running down it." oh my god

[@kiritosintern]

It’s a crime how Arsenal Pyramid’s first theme was only being played for 10 seconds. The full track is a banger. Also, I’m not a fan of quick step segments, but when Guardian Rock’s chase soundtrack went on I really didn’t mind it because of how sick it sounded.

[@thelookingcat]

Unleashed has too many as well I agree

[@zf10studios52]

@@thelookingcatI think they’re fun, but maybe it’s the scarcity.

[@thegamingnerd4]

If Luminous Forest was a one-time thing, the only level where you can just GO, it would absolutely be my favorite. I love the idea of a single level where the objective is simply to rip through an area, tearing your way from Point A to Point B, with absolutely no regard for the entire army in-between. As it stands, though, it just serves as a perfect illustration of the issues with Forces. I still like it, but the snake completely kills the flow. Anytime I replay the stage, I just exit level as soon as I get to it.

[@hydro3739]

Luminous forest actually has a short cut a lot of people missed (myself included until I found it on a whim). At the beginning of the section of the windy half-pipe, if you follow the enemies up the side, there's a homing attack chain that leads off the path and a neat short cut with rings and goes straight to the snake I think.

[@AQ_ChristianZ]

@@hydro3739 The snake is the problem. Not how you get to it 👍

[@bickuribox12]

@@hydro3739 I know the homing chain on the left soon after the transition back into 3D on the half pipe, but it doesn't go straight to the snake. Are you referring to a different one? I'd like to know where that is, if so.

[@hydro3739]

@@bickuribox12 okay imma be honest i haven't played forces in a hot minute and I was kinda talking out of my ass so my memory may be wrong about it going to the snake, but i do remember it cutting through that half-pipe section.

[@youmeltube]

@@bickuribox12 Theres two homing chain ones at the start of each halfpipe. The first one is to the left and the second to the right. They don't SAVE the level of course but its fun to nail upward airboosts to reach them without homing attacking.

[@descartesthehedgehog6064]

Would love to see stage rankings from other games, like Mania. "You can die on this hill if you want, but Lord knows you won't gain speed running down it" made me laugh so hard

[@CCJ15S]

1:53 "bite-sized stages in a game... made of bite-sized stages" That got me and is literally Sonic Forces in a nutshell lol 😂😂😂

[@sehtuk3953]

Super interesting to look at this mostly from an S-Ranker's perspective. Suddenly there's a lot of level flow that wasn't there before. That's really cool, and the air boost especially looks cool.

[@Keurgui1]

Honestly It actually feels like the game has a skill ceiling

[@mrpro538]

​@@Keurgui1It gives me SA1 Spin dash vibes

[@MrRobosquad]

IMO you need to go for 100 percent (including the time-trial missions) to get the most out of it, but it's quite a fun game when you do. It's like just beating it is easy mode, and completing it is the real game.

[@SonicWind149]

17:45: "'Cause this isn't just Green Hill-- this is _Green Hill_ Green Hill. They're not messing around now." Never fails to get at least a snicker out of me, no matter how many times I hear it.

[@jaredtherock5692]

That joke a little before the 7 minute mark was such a specified jab. I started rolling with laughter. The fact that only a Sonic fan could make and appreciate that joke makes it even more hilarious.

[@silversonome5360]

"You can die on this hill all you want, but _Lord knows you won't gain any speed running down it"_ is perhaps the funniest and most accurate criticism of Forces' mechanics I've heard, thanks a lot, Bickuribox

[@SilverSpireZ]

I can’t believe it’s already been five years since Straight Line Simulator 2017 released.

[@grape2743]

Shadow has always been the character used in "hard mode", and I feel that he complements forces levels well. If we had seen all the levels be like his, the game could've felt more like colors, which was actually pretty good tbh.

[@Pinkio]

i've come to make an announcement shadow the hedgehog is a bit---

[@nm5329]

@@Pinkio No thank you.

[@Squishito]

The game is already exactly like Colors, same director and everything. That's the problem lol. Forces level design would be right at home in Colors. It's also just as stupidly easy and short, they have almost the same issues. The game should have probably been more like Generations, seeing as they basically lied in the marketing to make it out like Forces was a Generations sequel with the same devs. And plus, unlike Colors, Generations is actually decent and feels remotely like a Sonic game in design.

[@magicmanthegeez330]

@@Squishito oh boy here comes more Colors Slandered 😭

[@jugglenaut1955]

He pissed on my fucking wife

[@randybudderknubs5152]

Don't be fooled by Santiago. That is no classic Sonic my friend.

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

I'm glad to see someone else recognize Shadow's levels are the best in the game.

[@badersimari5693]

Your gameplay actually makes this game look fun.

[@kingbash6466]

As disappointing as Forces was, there were some levels I legit think could have stuck out as legitimately good Sonic stages if they were give a bit more effort. Metropolitan Highway, Network Terminal, Mortar Canyon and all of the tag team levels showed potential in their level design and had some of the best music in the game.

[@TobytheHedgehog]

A longer Null space(The First Part where they are in Null space)

[@JuggaloStoner669]

Better and Longer shadow stages

[@justice8718]

The Classic Sonic mandate must’ve messed them up.

[@mult1versal]

“being on the top or the bottom is a very different experience than the other” you got that right

[@Ismatic1906]

I love mortar canyon. My main problem with it is that most of the level design can be skipped by jumping once or just holding forwards. For example the section where there are three paths has a ramp that lets you skip the whole section no skill required. I do like all the platforming when I’m not ignoring it to beat my best time by a millisecond though.

[@bickuribox12]

Would be great as an intro stage. Let players jump around for a quick minute, boost through enemies carefree, and air boost where we see fit to get used to how everything works. Then the "real" game would start afterwards. Of course, a 3 minute Mortar Canyon with the scope of Egg Fleet would be amazing too.

[@nicolasmartinez4337]

i love hearing u articulate ur thoughts in these man

[@BmanTV]

"this feels like they wanted to make a video game" in that tone was peak

[@imhungryish8274]

THE KING HAS POSTED

[@devmysta]

Your voice and delivery is fantastic! How could I NOT hit the subscribe button?!

[@Woodeater-xm7zq]

I was surprised by your placement choices the whole video, but it’s very refreshing to hear some positive things about these levels everyone usually hates, so nice job!

[@gustavolobo2001]

I was really surprised when you said that Virtual Reality is the best stage in Sonic Forces because I think so too! I actually loved mastering this stage!

[@sebastianmartinez5963]

I really liked your video bro. Personally, I like Sonic Forces, it's not my favorite Sonic game, but it's one I can have fun with. Yes, I know it's short, and it has a lot of automation, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it. My favorite level is Null Space, because, not only is it 90% 3D, but it's possibly the level with the most alternate paths, plus the Fist Bump theme gives pure adrenaline vibes. Other levels that I like are: Park Avenue, Metropolitan Highway, Sunset Heights, Egg Gate, Ghost Town, Network Terminal, among others. It must be admitted that Shadow in this game did pretty good, not only because he had good levels, but because the character was well written and his participation was adequate, not to mention the good performance of Kirk Thornton, a shame that many people overlook it's.

[@skeLPCgamez]

As much as Forces disappointed us, I somehow always enjoyed this game from day one due to my attachment of the game from a nostalgic view of 2017, the first time experience being fun and the soundtrack being my favourite in the series with its synth approach. That remains unchanged (but of course, without ignoring its flaws). The floaty double jump and OP air boost really change up how you play the levels and speed run them to your advantage. My personal favourite levels are (in no order): Ghost Town, Arsenal Pyramid, Imperial Tower, Mortar Canyon, Enemy Territory, Null Space, Egg Gate, Park Avenue and Sunset Heights. I do wanna bring your Attention to Forces Re-Imagined mod. It remixes the level layouts with new paths, tougher object placement, and even completely NEW extensions of the stages to make them more akin to 2-3 minutes. That new Sunset Heights man was what I originally envisioned the level would’ve been before what we actually got. I think Sonic Forces was trying to take a more cinematic approach with its automated and dodging level design, but it finally does get realised in that mod with the grand setpieces. The next demo will be at SHC 2022 this month (October).

[@conormcgregor6054]

YOUR FAVOURITE SOUNDTRACK IN THE ENTIRE DAMN SERIES??? Pass me that shit you’re smoking bro god damn 🚬

[@dunkboyxd6618]

@@conormcgregor6054 Bro the Forces Soundtrack goes hard 🔥🔥🔥

[@conormcgregor6054]

@@dunkboyxd6618 personally I found it the most forgettable along with Lost World when it comes to Sonic Music. Forces has a few good tracks but it’s mostly overshadowed by the dogshit screeching synth that ruins a lot of them. It’s the vocal themes that take it for me. Especially light of hope.

[@lolcat]

@@conormcgregor6054 lost world goes HARD bro

[@lolcat]

I liked the changes but it looked very unnatural I hope they improve on that. Random metal blocks and things

[@Pinkio]

i've been having this video on my recommended since it was posted 4 days ago LOL i love it

[@Henleash]

Dang has it really been 5 years? Although I still really don’t like this game and still feel the after effects of disappointment from this, I can’t help but also feel nostalgic. It was my first sonic game that I actually waited for from when it was teased to it’s release, instead of just stumbling upon it randomly at a store. Great job on the video!

[@frontiersmodel4781]

The thing that made me enjoy a lot more these levels are physics improvement mods that really make an upgrade to the Classic Stages (even if I alredy enjoyed them in the Vanilla game, but not to much), they're actually fun to play and I love those multiple pathways to take. You know, I like this game (6.5 is enough for me lol and maybe's because I didn't belong to its respective hype train), but I think that it would have been a great idea to make it as a full 2D game, why? Well, because of the 2D sections, they're actually pretty good and fun to master (I'm not saying that the entire of 3D sections are bad, not at all), seriously, even if they're way to short. For an example, I LOVE the Metropolitan Highway 2D sections because you need fast reaction input for make an insane speedrun full of satisfaction. Great video, as always. See you soon in Frontiers! (also, don't worry, I also like Iron Fortress).

[@Astarst]

love the video and honestly u give me more appreciation for forces than i could ever give it credit for.

[@Alexifeu]

24:00 I loved that stage so much i literally perfected the intro of the stage i did it like 100 times and always found better ways to uimprove it you can just boost trought the whoile section if youre good. played trough the whole game twice on xbox one s and i got the game 2 times for christmas i strill have sealed copy of it brand new

[@CuriousLumenwood]

Man I know you posted a poll a while back asking how people found you and obviously the top answer was your sonic content but the way you structure your videos and read your script is so entertaining, you could do variety content and I'd still watch

[@Redfire10000]

I stand with you in Iron Fortress, some people don't like it mostly because of the auto scroller part, and I understand it, but for me this stage was the best, it gave me the difficulty I was seeking for the entirety of forces, I even got a 1:50 run that gave me 50th place in the world on my ps4

[@Versiple]

"you can die on this hill if you want, but lord knows you won't gain speed running down it." take my sub bro. 💀💀💀💀

[@lauraseuk]

i love how your making forces sound more interesting

[@BinaryArmorOnline]

I never even played the game but you're making me want to.

[@JollyGiant64]

I really enjoyed this video. 1.) Because it's a good video and I like your content. 2.) Because it's not just "this game bad" repeated over and over for 30 minutes like most videos I've seen regarding this game. I played it for the first time this year, in one sitting, and while it's definitely not my favorite by a long shot, and there are plenty of moments and aspects I really don't enjoy, there are a lot of aspects I do enjoy and I'm finding myself almost wanting to go back to it. So, it's nice to see a video that appreciates this game.

[@ParmMannREBORN]

Five years yet the disappointment feels as fresh as ever

[@mechashadow]

1:23 You see this rail grinding is the predecessor to cyberspace from Sonic's memories so Tropical resort is reused and won't be reused any time soon, I'm sure =3= 5:30 Nice Death Egg reference formed by hoops tho'

[@WolfXGamerful]

The opening segment made me wheeze like a madman as bick was conveying his deteriorating mental state with the conviction of someone who was running for president and the absolute calmness of an untouched reservoir.

[@kaobunn]

great video! i completely agree with you on these points as someone who speedruns and casually plays forces often classic's levels can be really fun when you know what you're doing, aqua road is tight and exhilarating with great music to boot, metropolitan highway, null space (they should've called it something else since its 90% metropolis lol) egg gate and network terminal are some of my favorite stages in the entire game and the fact null space is as open as it is is insane because i was finding hidden pathways i didnt even think about taking on a different playthrough! the secret/extra stages are a really nice addition and the concept of extra gimmick centric stages could actually work out way more im personally excited for cyberspace but i really hope we get some fun stages to play through and id love to see you rank those as well!

[@MrE_Gaming1]

After watching the video and hearing how well you articulated your opinion in each stage I’d love to see you cover sonic unleashed stages & sonic generations

[@ZacTheCrippleFTW]

I love the way you write your scripts! Very witty! You read them in such a...like, straight facing tone it's great! If I ever started this whole KZbin thing I would use your scripts as a quality standard for sure. (subbed btw)

[@tonytiger5111]

Great video, Dude! 👌 I guess its only fair to do generations and mania next or maybe pitch in on the zone rankings that everybody is doing with origins.

[@eternal5953]

This video was very entertaining as someone who shares a lot of the same views and experience with this game. your #1 level is the one I had so much fun grinding when the game was new that I held the #1 spot on the in-game leaderboard for a small amount of time. I'm generally not a speedrun person so I'd consider that a win for the level design.

[@lumi_wish]

This video was a joy to watch, thank you. I have a big soft spot for Forces, had a blast playing it and sunk 50 hours into it in spite of its many shortcomings, so seeing someone talking about each stage in depth was very nice. I might return for a second playthrough and try some of the stomp boost tricks you showed off.

[@blueninja840]

Babe, Wake up New Bickuribox video dropped

[@Pirate_Knight27]

I love watching Sonic level rankings! Sonic Unleashed or Generations has some of the best levels! Would love to see you rank them!

[@BlazingAuras]

Null Space escape is without a doubt the best imo. When people think of a fully 3d stage this comes close to it. Metropolis highway and egg gate come close. I hope this game gets a remake in the future because as much as I enjoy it, it's just way too short, it could've been as decent as colors

[@wanderlustwarrior]

I appreciate that this is mostly positive about Forces. We all know the game's problems, but there was something there.

[@willem6605]

So glad I found this channel. Great (and perfectly cut) jokes, an easy-to-listen-to voice, and a modest statement of opinions that don't bash you over the head. If I had to ask you to go through another game's levels and rank them, Sonic Generations has some beautiful level design that I'd love to see you tackle.

[@tardissins7512]

Oh hey, fire cannon 2! I think I still have the wr for that one. The speedrun tech for the 2d modern stages is pretty fascinating

[@Katie4]

It really is a shame that Forces has so little to offer despite it having so much potential. Mortar Canyon makes me so upset because everything about it is so high stakes, from the music to the visual design to the environmental explosions. But it just ends before the stage really begins. A lot of stages in this game had the chance to be these big epic setpieces, similar to the ambitions of the Storybook games, but they all just kinda fall flat.

[@kaplooeygames8515]

Glad Enemy Territory was up so high. That was the one stage I actually tried to speedrun. Boosting over the one gap with the giant robot to skip the long downward slope felt like I was flying. Not a great game, but I did have fun playing it

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Giant robot?

[@sonicfind]

4:00 Note for here: don't use the bumpers. Use the directional pads. Don't know why, but the dpads are sooooooooo much more responsive than the bumpers when doing quicksteps.

[@illu1409]

I'd love to see you rank the stages of either of the Adventure games! Since there's varying playstyles it'd be interesting to see how they stack up against one another in your ranking.

[@Validoleech]

"The level is 40 seconds long" simulator

[@ssails]

i feel like putting sunset heights above mortar canyon is a crime, lol nice video though, i'd like to see you do a ranking on Sonic Unleashed, it's my personal favorite Sonic game and one you haven't really covered

[@bickuribox12]

It absolutely is, but half the list is so interchangeable that I had to draw the line at some point and say "No, I am done".

[@scrimblocoded]

25:50 made me laugh my ass off the return of the adrenaline rings at the last second really ties it all together

[@sebastianescalante5618]

Metropolitan Highway for Sonic, Guardian Rock for the Avatar and Death Egg for Classic Sonic. Those are my favorite stages with each character, and the ones I bothered to speedrun the most, I... Actually liked Forces far more than the Internet made me believe I would, to the point I even bothered to grind 100%!.

[@uhobme2028]

Honestly the soundtrack almost makes me wanna play it again. Some really good stuff there

[@autosaver]

The comment about drill feeling like burst actually makes sense if you take a look at the Wii version of Unleashed. It has the same burst of boosts with minimal control.

[@Chase1.9]

I don't think I've ever clicked on a video so fast in my life.

[@ZMATRIX_06]

Same

[@CD_-ox5ls]

same

[@bickuribox12]

You are simply too fast

[@guh2709]

Faster then sonic himself

[@jonolivier9126]

In Network Terminal I accidentally found that if you jump while boosting right before the zipline that throws you in to Chemical Plant proper you can land on and grind on the zipline's track, and if you jump at the very end of it you can hit the spring on the, silo? Tube? Whatever the hell the thing is and actually continue on, it not any faster, hell it's probably slower than just using the zipline route, but at least it looks kinda badass.

[@sausage5488]

This video reminded me how I actually had fun playing Forces when it came out

[@orlandofurioso7329]

Very fair and unbiased video, good work

[@MS54905]

U're a legend! lol I think I could hear u talking about Sonic all day

[@SayuriSRC]

Fantastic rankings! Honestly, I was surprised to see some Classic stages high up, and your top 10 picks as well were quite good! I've been speedrunning this game since the day it came out, and I often forget to think about the casual perspective of things. This is incredibly refreshing to see, so thank you for this. Also, my personal favorite stage - casually speaking - is Null Space! Funnily enough, Null Space is a god damn nightmare in speedruns, but casually, it's SO fun! I love the insane amount of alternate pathways at your disposal, and there's truly a hundred different ways to play through it. Never gets old!

[@ThatGuyImortal]

Can I just say I seriously love your videos? They ain't flashy, but there's an air about them that I utterly adore! Your comedic timing with your cuts is on point, and your voice is funnily enough soothing to listen to, you sound like a guy I could have a fun conversation with! Keep up the great work with your videos!

[@galothymos6628]

I loved this style of video and your delivery on jokes were great, subbed 👌👌😄

[@Just-A-Clown111]

weirdly i also came back to this game just yesterday and just found out this video, im having fun with it, im trying to perfectionate my runs to make it the fastest posible and its quite fun

[@lasercraft32]

19:55 I will say, this part of the level (with the big drop and a ring of enemies) is EXTREMELY satisfying to use the Cube Wispon in. Probably the only part of the game where it actually feels good to use... It only lasts a second though, but man I definitely recommend trying it at least once.

[@Pinkio]

23:32 auto-scroll in a sonic game

[@thelookingcat]

How did I miss this? I love the game despite its flaws so I'm glad ur making this!!! P. S. I love that you included the extra stages lol

[@Camad]

Very funny video, loved the script! Sorry you had to suffer through Forces :(

[@chantingmammal]

I can't believe it is 5 years since Forces released, and actually these levels of the game are amazing and I do not mind it being short but these levels really has great ideas, I hope The Cyberspace Levels of Frontiers learn from the mistakes of the levels of Forces but this video made me wanna play Forces before Frontiers but I am so excited for Frontiers and I hope it improves on the gameplay of Sonic Forces.

[@JakeThehedgehog-m1x]

they just re-used levels lol well that's an improvemnt lmao

[@Nimta]

I almost kind of want you to rank every game's stage in a single video just to see how low all of forces would be... but that would be a six hour video that I and most other people would definitely not end up watching lol

[@solelak]

I played the game, and as a casual videogame, it was decently fun. Its overhated to me, it wont win awards but its a fun enough time.

[@healsgood9147]

I've been a long time fan of your rotmg content and I love the direction the channel has gone in! you also seem to enjoy it a lot more. I love this video but I just wanted to point out the lack of background music feels a little off. still a great video tho, thanks for making these

[@mentlegen3887]

Soothing voice, funny yet concise commentary, and a dopamine inducing ranking of a game from my favourite series about anthropomorphic animals from another world? This guy gets my -vote- subscription!

[@SUPERFunStick]

I find watching your videos is a decent way to vicariously play post 06 Sonic games, minus mania of course. Mania is perfect and I keep replaying it about once a year. So good.

[@waypastcold]

I've also replayed Forces recently and I kinda liked it. The fact that so many people hate this game is pretty sad to me. I wasn't suprised that the Iron Fortress was so high on the list at all I really like that stage because it really forces me to focus if I want to beat my time record. I played the Frontiers demo at gamescom and thanks to this video I can now see how they improved the boost stages in frontiers based on all the feedback that they got from Forces. The original layouts in Frontiers cyberspace levels are mostly focused on quick reaction time and cool shortcuts that you can make based on the knowledge of the level. Great video!

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

Yeah, it's sad that this game is so lame. It's the dmc2 of platformers

[@therealdatenshi]

absolutely loved egg gate personally, i used to speedrun that a bunch: dropping down from the rail just before the loop, and falling your way onto the three rail bit was always really fun remember also really liking null space too - especially the music and also remember being surprised that on metropolitan highway, i was surprised you had to actually steer yourself whilst boosting.

[@rylibes6455]

Great video ! Would love to see you cover spark the electric jester 3!

[@obviousirony641]

Yo, just wanted to to give props to you for being one of the only people on KZbin to say good things about this game. Sometimes I think I'm crazy because for some reason I keep coming back to this game I don't mind Nintendo switch I've clearly put more than 90 hours on it. This was one of my first modern Sonic games I played. I have colors but I just can't come to terms to finish that. I have Mania and although the gameplay is fun I got bored with it's difficulty in the last level...went right back to playing Forces. Only other modern sonic game I have is Sonic Origins and even though the public reception wasn't the best for it I enjoyed it because we could play the old games on the switch. But still...I enjoy the hell out of Forces. Not cuz of the story either, which I kno is a missed opportunity. Speed running it in handheld mode is where the fun is at, in my opinion. I think if the Developers had more of those bonus levels and focus more on finishing a level as fast as you can should've been more of the focus since the game was rushed in a way. Sonic forces just should have been a speed running game you can create your own character in. One thing they could have added which could have been cool as if you created your own character and try to race Sonic. That would've been a nice touch. Keep the vids coming and showing appreciation to such a fun yet mediocre yet "divisive" game lol

[@theskyknight1002]

Hey, in the final judgement stage, the reason inputs get eaten is that you would have quick stepped into one of the wheels apparently. It's really annoying and unclear, which is why it feels like it gets eaten.

[@jacksondavis3355]

When I finished this game back in 2017, I didn’t know what to feel about it. I generally had an ok time with it but constantly just wanted so much more, but I’m pretty sure that’s the consensus of what the fandom thought of this game.

[@supersysscvi]

Interesting opinions. ^^; I'll admit, I wasn't expecting half the levels to have positive spins on them; I also didn't expect you to be such a precise speedrunner. :O I did not know half of those skips in the footage. You did focus more on gameplay than level design, too, so it's always good to see a different opinion on things. ^^;

[@StickmanGuides]

Interesting perspective on the level design in Forces. Looking at it through a casual speed running lens by maximizing the efficient use of various speed improvement tech was unique and gave me a new found appreciation for the more intricately designed 2D sections. Like you said, I wish we didn’t have to make a choice between short yet slightly complex and long but shallow, but it’s just how it is I suppose. Fantastic video as always man! Keep it up!

[@Eazy_P_40]

Virtual Reality isn’t a stage I really bothered with a few years ago, but starting last year, I really started to grind it because it’s actually incredibly challenging to speed run. Very happy to see someone else appreciate it, as it’s a very nice stage.

[@maximemht1015]

good video, with solid picks. as for me, my fav level is Ghost Town. it's just a blast to learn to speedrun, and not unnecessarily too long.

[@ARfritz]

Honestly when I saw the thumbnail and read the title I thought he wasn’t gonna do this, then I clicked on the video… he actually did this…

[@gamernerddownunder]

I would actually like to know what your ranking of the bosses are? To be honest I don't really like much of the levels but my favourite level is the first Infinite Boss on the snake in luminous forest.

[@Marqrk]

One nice little touch about Virtual Reality is that they bring back Supporting Me from SA2, which makes some sense because both situations are desperate battles for shadow to fulfill his duty In SA2 he was fighting the biolizard to keep his true promise to Maria to protect the world and help people be happy. In Forces he’s trying to escape Infinite’s mind trap to get back out and fight against Eggman, all the while hearing distortions of his friends telling him nothing is wrong. It’s just such a nice touch and if they gave that care to the rest of the game it would’ve been amazing

[@dorukunal9861]

Great video! Can you turn this into a series?

[@matthewbraith0411]

Iron Fortress being that high says all I need to know about the video.

[@Jaxxes1991]

Two things, one I didn’t even know Classic Sonic had a drop dash in this so that’s cool(same case with the Avatar’s stomp dash.) Two I honestly struggled a LOT more on Imperial Tower than Iron Fortress because I tend to suck at precision platforming