I Kind of Like Sonic Forces

[@premydaremy]

I actually agree with like 90% of this review, there's just certain parts of the game that show huge potential, but not enough to make me love the entire game. If I do go back to play Forces (aside from mods) it'll be for most of the Modern levels, and maybe Imperial Tower, either way great review.

[@bickuribox12]

Thanks man, I appreciate the comment

[@JavaCake]

Same.

[@JaySurf27]

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[@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365]

@@JaySurf27 Uhm..? What..?

[@dr.eggman8378]

Oh no, it’s Premy

[@sonicnerd21]

I never hated the game myself, just moreso disappointed at what they did with the story, enemies, and gameplay. The game was just...too easy and way too overhyped. With that being said it had it's fun moments, great review

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Honestly yeah. Infinite was shown to be a serious threat but was just tossed aside right after

[@Pinkio]

true meaning of a game that had so much potential but got wasted

[@pmatt1977]

Looks at the title of the video: (me) YOU WHAAT!!!!🤯

[@commandercody4984]

@@FirestoneAnimationyeah I like infinite the thought of someone being faster than sonic is a scary thought but he was just tossed to the side

[@Sephus912]

Sonic forces me to make a bad pun

[@Nobody_Shroom]

Sonic forces me to say that was kinda funny

[@chilidogsonic6774]

Oh god

[@DeclanEDowns]

I've watched a lot of reviews, Retrospectives and much more on Forces. But if say this is the best one I've seen. You brought up the games short comings in a respectful and thoughtful way, but also bringing up the positives as well. There's a lot of two sides to one sword here and I really like how you handled it. Sonic Forces, with the context behind it's development, is a decent title developed in 1.5 years in a landscape that makes developing a AAA in that time very difficult. I've played Forces on ever available platform and finished it several times, and no, it's not close to being my favourite, but I managed to find enjoyment and came out the other end with a smile. This video really helped figure out my feelings for the game, and for that, I can't help but appreciate your video. Love your new content, and I'm happy to come and check out your past vids too. Always, keep up the amazing work. 💜

[@coca-clown]

only a year and a half of development??? Sonic games aren't shy when it comes to really quick production times, but knowing that now really puts things into perspective.

[@SoraKingdom3]

From what I understood, the short development time was due to the upgraded Hedgehog Engine taking way more time than planned to be ready so because of that, the game had barely no development time given. Which is a real shame, they clearly had ideas but that and Classic Sonic coming back for no reasons wasted the little time they had for the true content : modern Sonic and the Avatar.

[@Pinkio]

@@SoraKingdom3 how did they choose to bring Classic Sonic back? was it just fan-service because of Sonic Generations? because i don't see a wrong thing with mixing the lore of Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces up, but yeah it should be better elaborated to work that way

[@noba4160]

@@Pinkio He had no reason to. Like seriously. All's they had to do was carry the Phantom Ruby between games which made sense, but not Classic Sonic.

[@Hugo-yz1vb]

​@@noba4160Agreed. We already had 2 games with plenty of Santiago to enjoy

[@Crypticole_]

Its nice to see someone who doesn't just yell "THIS GAME BAD." and actually give points for things that work and doesn't work. It's not a good game, but its not absolutely terrible.

[@Possibly_Hawkins]

real ⬆️

[@srcoeiu6100]

You can't blame people for being upset though, i myself was a hardcore Forces defender (for some reason) but SEGA hyped too much and delivered what looks like a beta

[@Bornagainvillain]

@@srcoeiu6100nah you can blame em. I still do. Game isn’t bad. It was never a bad game.

[@Crypticole_]

@EphraimSangi yeah, it is for sure, but even bad games have some good ideas! Just thought the video covered it well

[@irohnic473]

In my opinion, that’s what makes Sonic Forces even worse. Its just hollow. An empty, soulless shell with almost no substance to enjoy. I always believe that bland mediocrity is even worse than genuine terribleness. Generally, if something’s genuinely bad, it at least it had a vision of what it wanted to be, tried to be it and failed miserably, and that gives it something to enjoy: substance, personality; dirty, unfiltered personality, but personality nonetheless. Many games are of objectively worse quality than Forces, but there is still something to enjoy in them, return for, or even just ponder over, be it the wasted potential of Sonic 06, the unfettered absurdity and blasé attitude of Shadow the Hedgehog or the eggshell mountain that Rise of Lyric tried to be. Forces, however, is bland, uninspired and predictable. Forces is muddled and unclear. It has no substance and, as a result, little to enjoy in it’s mediocrity, little to return for.

[@Engaged.tourist]

I'm so glad to find someone to actually give an unbiased balanced review of this game. Nowadays, especially in the sonic fandom, it feels like people are either overwhelmingly negative or positive with people jumping down your throat just for not having the general opinion.

[@sonicdudeatdawn2]

Box and nitro rad are the only ones who gave the game a chance

[@MooseeMcMoose]

I always feel like I'm having an in-depth conversation whenever I watch one of your review videos, keep it up!

[@yeslikestarwars8824]

Man I may not play sonic games anymore but goddam I love these reviews. Keep it up man

[@Chase1.9]

Finally! A Sonic Forces review that I can actually agree with! I personally enjoy the game for what it is, and the soundtrack slaps HARD

[@AQG]

This was nice to watch As someone who thinks the game is pretty average and with all the negativity surrounding frontiers, it's nice to see someone genuinely talk about a sonic game they like on some level. I know this is a 4 year old video so you probably won't see this, but great job. I hope q lot of people see this and try the game

[@TheComemnter]

I played sonic forces. I don't know why every keeps bashing the game. It has some decents levels. Like mortar canyon, egg gate, chemical planet, etc. The classic Sonic stages suck though. Avatar stage is ok in my opinion.

[@stoopiosproductions3130]

So do I. Just a bit. The most happiness I got was staring at it when my grandma gave me it and i could not get that smile off my face. I was so hyped for that, more than mania. I freaking remember watching that teaser and how I said it was "gonna be the best sonic game since sonic unleashed, (the objectively best sonic game ever)" And I played it, and it was alright. But the story could be changed up.

[@GeorgeWashingtonToad]

Yeah the now old writers just looked at a Wikipedia article

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Fr. I found some rewrites that are just *beautiful*

[@officialrazing929]

I took a break off of Forces for like 2 years and played Unleashed a lot during that time. So when I went back and played Arsenal pyramid, it was a minute and a half compared to Rooftop Run’s 5 minute stage. So I was like “Wait, it’s over already?”

[@ReverofEnola]

Kind of the same. I was actually prepping myself for Sonic Forces back in 2016 by replaying a lot of Unleashed HD & Generations. Only to be mad as hell when Forces finally came out & the Modern Sonic levels were nowhere near as fun.

[@YOSHBAG]

So I know i'm really late to the party with this one...having replayed this game when it dropped on PSN, I really do not like this game, and I do consider it a disappointment in so many aspects. However, there are moments where the game pokes out a small bit of something that could've been. The biggest problem I have with this game is the writing and story. The characters we know and love get completely shafted and misrepresented, in a game where it's setting could have allowed a perfect Segway into Sonic's cast banding together, standing true with their different personalities and how they handle the struggle. The writing makes it feel as if nothing is a challenge for the heroes. Eggman, frickin' EGGMAN, the guy who blew up half a planet just to showcase how cool his new toy was, has taken over the WORLD. I think the game just misses the mark on that front and in many others, and creates a painfully average game that becomes terrible when you're a hardcore fan.

[@aggromango534]

Agreed, in terms of characters they REALLY failed. They tried to get that serious tone together with latest sonic writing (either that or they were too shy to get to the Real dark stuff)

[@adrielcruz2736]

@@aggromango534 I think it’s just their fear of repeating shadow and sonic 06 again. They wanna lean back into the more serious and complex character development stories of before but don’t have the og writing staff and are afraid they might end up making too serious that it makes the newer fans feel no longer catered too and the old fans like they were trying too hard. And since they didn’t pick a lane their writing staff which does mainly comedy and not that big of a plot for most of the games is forced into this weird limbo of serious story and corny kid jokes.

[@aggromango534]

@@adrielcruz2736 Pontacc, was it?

[@Pinkio]

why are most of these comments from 5 months ago

[@mazkeraid4039]

I think you mean blowing a moon in half and cracking the planet-wide open. Yeah, it is so undercooked in many ways that I believe that Sonic Team may run into problems that nobody has mentioned. Like, it’s a decent game to play, but not for revisiting purposes.

[@SilverSlushy3]

Another great review! Always love to hear your insight!

[@Continental_Champ]

I'm seeing this review after 3 years but I gotta say, after all the negativity surrounding this game that I love, this felt like a huge breath of fresh air. Finally some much needed praise.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Agreed, I feel the same way to this review and I hate how people call it the Worst sonic game or pure trash cause it’s not

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

I hate this review because it disrespected the best Sonic game Sonic Rush.

[@laritzalopez5716]

Yes

[@krisjolt]

@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 earthbound doesn't suck. You just have a terrible taste

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

@@krisjolt it’s the most bland, boring and generic rpg ever. Anyone who pretends to like it only has a few childhood memories that makes them think it’s a good game. Don’t worry it happens to me too. Especially when you compare it with mother 1 and 3. It’s only barely better than 1 in visuals and gameplay, but mother 3 shits all over mother 2 it’s not even close. Mother 2 is an overrated trash pile that does not deserve to steal Mother 3’s spotlight. I literally never heard one good thing about that game other than muh charm.

[@mdstevens0612]

Forces is taking an undeserved beating right now, so I'm glad there are a few reviewers still willing to give the game a fair shake. I get the most enjoyment out of speedrunning Sonic levels, so seeing all the tricks you pull off made me pretty excited for when I eventually pick up Forces. Great review man, you earned my sub. Edit: 6 Years later, this game was just alright. Review is still spot on. Does a lot of things right, does a lot of things wrong, but it's just a lot of wasted potential. At least dressing up OCs is pretty fun and there's one or two decent stages in there. Use some mods that remove some automation and give you better control and Forces even sorta kinda becomes fun. Just a shame. Anyway Sega better port Dream Team.

[@bickuribox12]

Matthew Stevens Thank you for the support 😊

[@sketchsskotch1073]

Being called mediocre after waiting 4 years for another 3D Sonic game, or 6 years for another good 3D sonic game is somehow undeserved.

[@TRG_R17]

No The Hell It's Not Forces Deserve This Beating For Letting All Of Us Down When They Promise Much More

[@CommanderBravo2]

i never thought someone could make me appreciate sonic forces, i really thought this video was just gonna be a "liking the game for the sake of being different" perspective, but you really explained yourself very well. nice video

[@subb9011]

went to see this after checking out your p-06 videos, really summarized how i personally felt about the game in pretty much everything, great review my man

[@Cool_Kid95]

My memories of this game boil down to some levels being extremely hard, some funny glitches, blocky level design, bad classic sonic physics at first, and having fun with the avatar

[@Tanka_]

Your commentary and explanation for your opinions of the game are stellar. This was a great video. Plus you explained how I felt about a lot of things in the game. I too felt it to be fun but like they did not overhaul their creativity. I feel like they have done so since Generations. That game and Lost World were too short but did great things for Sonic. Unleashed seems to be the last time I experienced them flooding the game with their creative ideas (have yet to play Colors so that could be there too). All in all, you have actually made me like the game even more and want to replay the game more.

[@bickuribox12]

I’m really glad that you liked the video and that I could improve your enjoyment somewhat!

[@bristephens555]

great review talking about a lot of the good and bad of the game! Honestly I really loved this game mostly because I loved creating my own character and customizing and changing them over time. I found it pretty addicting to do all the challenges and daylies and unlocking a bunch of new customization all the time for my character and saving different outfits for them. Definity most of the levels could be better but I do like how many of them are short and sweet and pretty fun to speedrun or get better times in

[@Satrim373]

The non realm games are where it's at. Great video man

[@OBAKENOBA]

I played the game a couple years ago and thought of it kinda fondly so I revisited it and was met with empty characters and uninteresting levels I believe that those are the main vocal points of the criticism it was just so empty and uninteresting and only showed potential at the end of the game it really was kinda disappointing but my fond memories of playing it for the first time were amazing second I beat it I felt accomplished and proud and that would be the one thing that keeps me from hating the game it wasn't the game play or character arcs it was the memories of sitting down on the couch and chilling out in the morning playing sonic the hedgehog and that was an adventure in itself

[@LegionIscariot]

My issues with Sonic Forces is just how inconsistent it is. Some stages are great. Some stages are just a straight line you can just boost straight through. And as a result its just a mixed bag for me.

[@MDXZreal]

This video has actually given me a lot more respect for a game I thought was completely awful and had no substance but this game is ok and now I know why I loved when I was younger

[@TakaGojii]

Okay. Finally. Someone genuinely shows that this game is actually pretty decent! This is my second Sonic game, and I somewhat cherish it although I enjoy other Sonic games more. Sonic fans just believe what everyone else says about a game and starts bashing it without thinking about it themselves for a moment. Thank you. (By the way don’t go rambling about how I’m a “little kid” or something, the game came out 5 years ago. Chill out.)

[@monocell.]

watching this after playing shadow gens and DAMN! we lived like this ??

[@ShiaTheBunnyGirl]

Let’s be honest, sonic forces is hell for people who want lengthy platformers and is heaven for speedrunners.

[@0Yours_Truly0]

Sonic forces was my first 3D sonic game and I did find it fun sure the controls are stiff and all but I managed to make them work perfectly. Basically I love this game

[@Mepphy99]

it's not about hating Forces it's Just ... is depressing how much It doesn't want to really try

[@sun332s7]

“I feel like such a ninja.” Hmmm yes indeed.

[@dominicanemperor28]

To me, if you like a game, it's good for you.

[@CheeseBlaster]

cheers to that

[@3J-LilCatNDaHat_isback]

Thank you because fr I thought I was the only one who liked forces

[@thegamingjelly1719]

On the topic of speedrunning, I remember when I held the world record for the final boss on Switch for a while. Man that was fun.

[@zoruacrossing8726]

Soooo.... am I the only one who noticed that he didn't mention Final Judgement? Like, despite this being a level-by-level breakdown, it wasn't mentioned or even in the footage. Just thought that was weird. That aside, this was a wonderfully-put-together video, and it's really nice to hear some more positive-ish takes on Forces. The game is underwhelming, no doubt, but it still has fun elements to it, and most of it's problems are missed potential rather than game-breaking issues. I loved the game when it came out, despite how shallow it is, and I still have a fondness for it today. Everyone seems to be in a hurry to label it as the next '06, when truthfully at it's worst it's only a below-average Sonic game with a lot of missed potential. That and dunking on Sonic games has been easy internet points for 14 years now.

[@mazkeraid4039]

The so-called "internet points" has no substance and earnings which made them no better.

[@royfireemb5551]

14:40 this joke is overused, but i can't hold myself "Sonic Forces me to be careful, and time my jumps properly"

[@greg4587]

0:58 I was awaiting for you to say "Green Hill, Green Hill, Green Hill, Green Hill.... Chemical Plant-" 1:50 Also, you actually make that section look really fun.

[@coffinmyface4237]

I love critics like you, youre so much more profoundly human than most, most critics will call bad games out on their objective low quality and pretend like its completely unlovable, you admit when a bad game is bad and explain why you still love it when you do.

[@jasoncampbell3558]

I feel like Classic Sonic was included purely because they saw the overwhelming praise and positive outlook that Mania had, and were afraid people wouldn't give the game a fair chance if he wasn't included. This probably hurt development because now they had to make and implement gameplay for a character they had no plans for in the first place. Would explain why a lot of Classics stages feel rushed and just sort of put together. Again, this is my theory but it would explain a lot.

[@darkcat6530]

idk man both games released same year it would be pretty tight for that

[@MegaGlassguy]

Unfortunately the theory doesn't add up because both games were revealed at the same time and Classic showed up in both, meaning they likely shoved him in not because of Mania's, but Generations' praise.

[@jasoncampbell3558]

@@MegaGlassguy Yeah, that makes more sense. Still, it is possible the team were probably planning a version of Forces without Classic Sonic. But the higher ups made them put him in for whatever reason. IDK, either way Classics levels to me feel the most rushed and just put together. There's some neat stuff here and there, but it's easy to see he was the part of Forces the team didn't put the most time in. Either because they couldn't or they didn't want to.

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

Classic Sonic completely screws over Tails' story, instead of him fighting himself he just cowers

[@thegrapeshow]

@@Breakaway-ic5gj Facts.

[@cutiefrooty4546]

I love how positive you are

[@CoCofi8103]

0:45 no, no they do not sonic has never looked more dead and lifeless inside

[@D0VEGUM]

how did you make me appriciate a game more than i already did?

[@AgentB7]

Thank you for being the voice of reason on Forces. It definitely deserves some credit, and frankly, it's just a fun game.

[@clownsingularity]

1:43 again my beloved rush gets shafted, when will i receive justice.

[@stikkysosage9125]

Pretty much exactly how I feel about this game. The focus on speed run tactics was the only reason I managed to rack up 60 hours on it. In contrast easily got Mania to basically double that amount of play-time

[@chocolatethunder7134]

i thank goodness im not the only one who likes this game

[@Cade_Squirrel]

My biggest problem with Sonic Forces is probably the level length, if it was all the same levels but some levels were merged together to make bigger but fewer levels I think I and many other people would like this game alot more

[@ferro_drip189]

The reason why classic sonic returned in forces using a dimensions hole was because if you have played Sonic Mania, When you get all chaos emeralds you get a true ending which shows tails and knuckles outside, pointing to where sonic is headed. and with that sonic spin dashes and leaves to another dimension, but temporary.

[@djroscurro9859]

I think he’s aware, from what I remember he made a mania review before forces came out. My question is, why include classic sonic in forces in the first place?

[@ferro_drip189]

@@djroscurro9859 idk, guess they just decided to mic things up because of a bootleg emerald that was randomly discovered by both eggmans called “The Phantom Ruby”

[@tardissins7512]

The point you made about how it’s more enjoyable for speedrunners is what I’ve been saying basically since it launched. I LOVE it for that, but everyone I know hates it.

[@JustJohn43]

Best review of Forces on KZbin. Especially the way you describe the final boss. Great boss design there with having to conserve your boost. The progress is halted until the player figures things out.

[@Muteki_REN]

going through your videos, really like how positive you are about the design of these games while acknowledging the obvious flaws. A lot of sonic game design talk has been so dismissive and pessimistic that it really doesn't progress the overall conversation of what makes sonic games work and what needs to change to keep up consistency. Nice video man

[@NinjaV_Editz]

When I played Null Space for the first time I had Chills the whole time

[@sazerae]

11:31 Wait, aren't those ships from Unleashed's opening, I thought they blew up...

[@kelagy]

I guess Eggman rebuilt it

[@seankkg]

I had fun playing through Forces and I'll never play it again. That's pretty much how it is.

[@bluefoxgalaxy6057]

I did actually enjoy playing Sonic Forces. It was so unique in its own way, that it made the experience actually enjoyable for me.

[@hereitcomestheatrain]

is he trying to save sonic forces

[@3rdstrikestan930]

The vid is 6 years old.He's just offering his own view at the games' release

[@hereitcomestheatrain]

@@3rdstrikestan930 that makes sense

[@xamp_exclammark]

Nah this is a purely personal opinion of his,i dont think he is making pretentions to objective quality here

[@CursedMoistMan690]

I actually liked forces, but sonic fans called me controversial because I liked Sonic 06, Shadow the headhog, Sonic heros, and Sonic unleashed (Especially the Wherehog parts)

[@flameblastv5151]

There’s a timeline out there where sonic was the most critically acclaimed franchise while Mario is the inconsistent franchise. I wish I lived in that universe

[@Shadex_Joestar]

I wish I lived in a timeline where both were the most critically acclaimed franchises I wish I lived in a timeline where Sonic was treated with the respect it deserves and the games weren't rushed

[@AlejandroBonavia2008]

this was My first sonic game

[@Yamek08]

My condolences

[@oni91119]

Does this video still hold up 4 years later

[@HeyImSpiffed]

I can agree with the electric and cube wispon being bad for speeding through levels, but the electric wispon can be used well in levels for interesting gameplay and challenges

[@bracken8782]

I particularly liked lightning in Arsenal pyramid, since it let you basically say no to all the enemies on the bottom by just using the light dash over all of them.

[@heitorsant1759]

Sonic forces was my first 3D Sonic game, i haven't played it in a long time, i should play it again sometime soon

[@pizzachu2281]

Looking back at forces... I really need to put reshade on frontiers or something. Frontiers is pretty drab. Thematically appropriate but it bores me. Forces was at least pretty colorful.

[@bonkeykong858]

“Character models look great”

[@johncarrillo518]

The game felt it was missing something it seemed too short. The story was very predictable, the music was not really memorable. It just felt like the game could have been more.

[@Hiayven]

I had an idea for the final boss when the reveal dropped, being you, classic and modern dashing through short parts of all the stages transitioning with a phantom ruby effect, would've been cool

[@JulianCaesaro]

Wait hold on, is that spring head an actual item in the game? It’s actually really interesting and hilarious and I want to use it if it isn’t a mod

[@iananimationYT]

Yes it’s real and actually in game I don’t know how to get it tho

[@ThousandairesClub]

*Forces is the best sonic ive ever played because it knows what its trying to be and isnt doing too much to be something extraordinary. its a casual fast and free-flowing experience from one level to the next and all it asks is that you Enjoy and Appreciate it for what it is.*

[@chrissyoons]

Completely underrated video. Truly an amazing video explained everything amazingly and I really agree with most points in this video. Thank you for this amazing video :)

[@ericamaya2467]

Happy to say that we have close to 35 sonic forces esque stages sprinkled throughout the new sonic game, even a little bit better in fact.

[@rebel-artist-nerd]

Personally, I had a lot of fun with the game. I just wish your avatar had an actual name or something it would have sounded more realistic.

[@Laekith]

This gave me a new appreciation for the game

[@frostthewolf1443]

This was my first mainline Sonic game, and I replay sometimes to this day. It actually got me into Sonic oc design. Network Terminal will always be my favourite level.

[@SourCool-md7ut]

You like walking in a straight line???

[@Hyp3rSonic]

You can apply that to games like SA2 and Unleashed, unfortunately. Even if those games are better, the gameplay is still linear(referring to the speed stages)

[@keero666pkmn]

all those wisp powers would be WAY more fun to utilize in a full 3d setting. Imagine finding new places to go in a level by digging with the drill or burst jumping to new high places even sonic and his boost spring pads or whatever can't reach. They missed such a big opportunity here. The missions could have been made way more elaborate, they could have had a hub world online for avatars to team up in missions and run around after the game was done t increase longevity, I mean what would have been so bad about doing that? Delay the game and make it HUGE and amazing sega. and with the null space thing, what they should have done was split the metropolitan city into 2 stages, one before Null space, then make null space it's OWN level, and the second half of metropolitan AFTER null space so people replaying metropolis don't HAVE to sit through that sprint scene every time. I mean it's simple basic player accomodation design philosophy.

[@the-point-bearer6689]

The fact it was done by two level designers that never did level designing before shows it.

[@hdanimatesorsomething]

This is basically how I think of this game! Except when I played it I was like 8 and was stupid which means I loved this game but by now this sounds about how I would have thought of the game (except the favourite oc level). Good video.

[@TheDragonthing591]

This game I have a soft spot for. It's what got me into the franchise. The first game I played. So for that reason I'm ok with it.

[@that1_throwawayaccountdeez277]

bro made me rethink if this game was good or not, its not but bro your videos are amazing, keep up the good work

[@HallowedGreaves]

Honestly speaking, as bad as the writing was I feel even now I can find a few golden dialouge lines.

[@commanderspyder5432]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the final boss was great.

[@awkwardess]

this is one of my favorite sonic games so its nice to see a video thts calm & talking good points of the game & not just loud hating like the other 99% of forces videos

[@BlazingAuras]

Wow this is the best review of forces I've seen and you didn't even talk about the story. I've only seen this 4 years later and I needed to see something like this because forces has gotten too much hate with the time gap between it and frontiers. You've earned a sub

[@gamanzhiydanil]

He doesn't talk about story because it's just too bad and everybody has mocked it more times than I can count.

[@bartoszhallay6576]

What he said: The final boss:the Death Egg Robot. What he said according to the automatically generated subtitles: the final boss, the Deaf A Grow Bomb.

[@gameman5804]

How did I not see this video!? Guess the toxic hatred kind of overshadowed it. You basically summed up how I felt about this game. Not one of the worst Sonic Games, but could’ve been so much better.

[@Naxal710]

Yeah you hit a lot of my feelings about this game! Very good review!

[@cofagrigusfan24]

i to like Forces, but then again every game with a character creator gets + points from me also the story, moments most people have a problem with, i don't and find reason behind them -Tails being a coward, he's a 8 year old kid, who saw his idol & big brother figure get destroyed, his mental state isn't in the right place -why is Zavok here?, he's 1 of the strongest mortals Sonic has ever faced (able to block Sonic's homing attack without even flinching (in Lost World)) -CS is from the past, not another dimension? both are correct, the CS in Generations was from pre-Adventure era (aka Sonic's past), the CS in Forces is from Mania (a game that is *not* in Sonic's past, Mania takes place after CS returned home from Generations, aka another timeline) -why isn't there a Chaos 0 fight? yeah i got nothing for that one... -why was Metal Sonic a illusion? (while not canon to the games...) IDW shows us that Metal was being rebuild into a loyal Neo Metal Sonic during the war

[@gamingicedragon336]

lets not forget what happened in SA2 (which is part of the modern era according to generations) Sonic was litterally executed and what did Tails do? He made sure Sonic''s death wasn't in vein, so he defeated Eggman to avenge Sonic.

[@sandersboys1108]

im just appreciating the fact that it builds on generations where classic sonic learned boost by using the triple boost in the final boss

[@Ashly-28]

Lets just take a moment to appreciate eggman for finally doing what he always said he would and “taking over the world” and getting rid of sonic (for some time) instead of putting some robots and spikes and calling it captured

[@echoladair]

It maybe 5 years later but I only recently got into this series and played forces like a month ago, let’s see if this review holds up

[@EditKingdumb]

Every sonic game has had potential, some go through with it but other are so clumsy that the intention ends up dying with the potential

[@Minecraftxpo]

would love to see you do a playthrough of adventure 2

[@gemeosnosgames]

If you like this game, that's okay. This opinion won't change my life.

[@Sebby-x1n]

Sonic forces was the first sonic game that I can actually recall most of what I played on it, as I was a pre teen when it can out. I thought that shit was great, which then the previous games like the adventure games and unleashed blew my mind. I’m just now playing generations, too!

[@spanoguy2283]

When I first played forces, I REFUSED to believe eggman was piloting the boss in the last phase, there was just no actual way

[@AquaNovaSab]

Finally a criticism that is rational is not filled with hatred because of the license! Thank you ! I still had a good time playing these games :). Even if it's not the best of all time.

[@-sgsdfhdhhdt]

I quite like this game. It's not as good as others but I go to it everyonce and a wile.

[@JC-hi8fk]

Classic Sonic Forces his way into another modern game.

[@blakegoodman7785]

I love that scene where Classic Sonic saves Tails from Chaos. It shows just how much Tails can't function without Sonic, and just how much Tails needs Sonic.🥺

[@mazkeraid4039]

Broy, Tails can bomb an army of birds and capture these carters that can fly, what kind of excuse is that?

[@Crackedcripple]

Never saw something I’ve disagreed with more it completely throws his character development from sonic adventure 1 and 2 where he learns to be more independent and a hero in his own right out the window, and the classic games show tails can even be better than sonic at times.

[@Nobody_Shroom]

"I love character assassination"

[@Neonlight3934]

7 years it's what it took. But they did indeed knock it out of the park

[@s.r.8260]

Idk why but jumping while boosting in this game feels satisfying as heck

[@TheBradRules]

I even said the same thing about Null Space in my review years ago. It was a blown opportunity because they escape so quickly from the supposed elaborate trap. Lol Great video and I agree Forces is underwhelming but by no means bad.