Ranking Every Spider-Man Villian - A Tier List

[@mase6978]

Corn of Coblin is an obvious S-tier

[@s1ckboirari]

sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat at just the thought of the Corn of Coblin, bloody thing of nightmares

[@dylanmahaffey8920]

This guy made a reference I got, so I like it!

[@a.t.3192]

Corn of Coblin is S+

[@Fullibrohallows]

Best comment

[@joshieboy9727]

Naturally

[@Cambert83]

"Fun" Fact: Until the 90s cartoon decided to make him just a cannon fodder villain, Shocker was the most successful Spider-Man villain. With beating, or escaping from Spider-Man over 50% of the time. Why was he so successful? He didn't want to mess around with Spider-Man. He just wanted money so never wanted to fight or hold grudges with Spider-Man. Just took the money and when Spider-Man showed up, knock up down long enough to make a getaway. Once the 90s jobbered him, his character never really recovered. Secret A tier.

[@1wayroad935]

Shocker is also one of the few villains who is Super Effective against the Symbiote.

[@ericwalsh2954]

This is kinda in lore now, alot of tye spiderman versions refer to the shocker as someone he struggled with when he first started

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

It also takes part of one of the best scenes in spider-man media, and that is him being chased by Spider-man with the simbiote suit

[@bluecanine3374]

Thing is, I like him as a reoccurring pest. Not some super genius or ultra powerful threat, just a guy who wants to make some money with a power that can knock Spidey off his feet if he gets careless. Not completely weak and dumb, but not some city wide threat either.

[@EmjayUltra]

Cool, because I have this Mandela effect memory about the Shocker being one of Spiderman's toughest foes. I think Stan Lee said it on some promotional show in the late 90s.

[@alangreer3760]

I feel like Rhino was created specifically to be the boss in a video game that has the mechanic of getting baited into running into stuff that makes him vulnerable to attacks (which is impressive considering video games weren't a thing yet). Props to him for filling that niche.

[@nugget3687]

And he does such a good job at filling that niche

[@AnthonyInacio-hx7wx]

That fits perfectly with how in the PS4 game you have to use your webs to swing the cranes so the cranes smack into him so you can fight him.

[@PurpleMush12]

So many things are good for video games. Doesn't really mean much considering spider man obviously has to have a way to defeat rhino. If he just beat up rhino with his fist that also works well for a game. Don't think it's as spectacular as you think.

[@Dan-ui5bm]

He was just making a joke that his design is lego game esque​@@PurpleMush12

[@grankmisguided]

They should have called him the kite

[@OddTomOut]

Peter’s landlord will always be an S tier villain

[@dastvan8002]

This might be a set up for a dumb joke but I think you mean Mister Ditkovich

[@OddTomOut]

@@dastvan8002 aaaah no you’re right!!!

[@OddTomOut]

@@dastvan8002 thank the lord for the edit button XD

[@ericlayton8888]

All Spiderman villains wish they could be Mr Ditkovich

[@carter5389]

Rent?

[@J.O.R.D]

They made Vulture genuinely look good with the fur coat and the menacing wings and suit, same with Mysterio, they did a great job with most of Spiderman's villains in the MCU tbh

[@DrDoom77976]

dont forget that helmet, just imagine walking alone at night and all u see is 2 green eyes

[@jonbaxter2254]

Also helps you have a hell of an actor

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@DrDoom77976 true

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

they did very good with those villains

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

They did good to the protagonist villains but did very bad to villains like shocker and scorpion, hope they do them good in the second Spider-man trilogy

[@tytamtew7990]

Oh boy I can’t wait to see where my favorite Spider-Man villain, The Corn of Coblin, ranks on this definitive list!

[@jonbaxter2254]

So glad he's back, it has been years.

[@joek81981]

Now remember, they said they can't do ALL the bad guys in the Spider.... well I'll be damned.

[@dbagette]

Before they go on their end of year break, the boys should do a tier list of recurring bits #rodney

[@ValueNetwork]

I think the Vulture is one of my favourite Spidey foes for the Simple fact that he’s literally 100 years old and is on the brink of death but at the same time he’s healthy enough to both fly through New York and fight Spider-Man. The fact that the vulture has won some of his fights against spidey and didn’t have a heart attack is genuinely a miracle

[@J.O.R.D]

Haha true talk 😂

[@Ili-v4z]

I'm pretty sure his suit makes him super strong. Vulture is X-Men villain rn. He hates mutants, because they didn't share immortality

[@richardduerr1948]

He's got Blue Chew on his side

[@didrikschubertsson8673]

I also love that issue where he just pulls out a uzi and is all "fuck it, I'm just gonna shot you. Spider Man" And then the Human Torch shows up and burns up his wings and he falls to presumably his death.

[@J.O.R.D]

@@Ili-v4z X-Men villain you know, comics are nuts

[@apocrypha5363]

In Rhino's first appearance, Spiderman dodges him a few times and then Rhino gets tired, falls over and is arrested. Solid S-Tier behaviour.

[@user-ns3vs3bp3e]

For that performance alone he’s S tier just below corn of coblin imo

[@ErikN1982]

The Most Boomer of All Villains

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@ErikN1982 Then in another comic Rhino fights the fucking Hulk for a day *seriously* the dude is by the far the strongest in Spidey's Rogues Gallery but only when it matters.

[@wassuprory]

They punch for a bit, then he gets all tuckered out

[@Morfe02]

Just like Spectacular lmao

[@MrWaterlionmonkey]

One of the most interesting things about scorpion that isn't explored in other media is that he was created by J Johna Jameson and that he HATES Jameson and tries to kill him alot.

[@anispidey]

The 2000 game had a boss fight with him trying to kill JJJ.

[@MrWaterlionmonkey]

@@anispidey I remember that

[@levipeterken4020]

This is actually mentioned in the new game

[@cable7152]

Speaking of old Triple J, S Tier villain.

[@duckyduck34]

wasn’t this touched upon in the original animated series? I remember that it had his origin story and he did try to kill J J Jameson. Aint sure if it was ever touched upon after that episode though. Kinda just became a filler villain for sinister six and all that.

[@matthewchan9807]

Tombstone in Spectacular Spiderman was a very good interpretation of him, menacing, mutual respect for spider-man and voiced by Keith David

[@VCRVoyage]

This was my initial thought but the reason he's so good is because he's basically just The Kingpin and they didn't have the rights to use actual Kingpin.

[@matthewstarkie4254]

Amazingly, he's only voiced by Keith David in his first episode, every time after that he's voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson. But Richardson does such a good impression, its practically impossible to tell.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

then comes the ITSV one who got beat up by Aunt May lol

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@VCRVoyage Spectacular Spiderman had great versions of all the villains, though New Animated Series Electro is the best version for me.

[@Zzzquil_Lord_v2]

Was waiting for them to mention that but VCR is right. He was never meant to be Tombstone but multiverse rule states not all versions of a character are created equal so he is a version of Tombstone even if he’s not traditionally Tombstone-esque. I think the Spider-Man games found a good middle ground, not exactly a conquer the city type of guy but also not just a hired goon and actually the leader of his own illegal chop shop operation. ***Minor spoilers for Spider-Man 2 PS5*** or at least, he was.

[@KungFuWombat]

I can't believe they even bothered ranking the rest when Corn of Coblin was right there.

[@jonbaxter2254]

SSS tier.

[@johnw9771]

The iteration of Kraven in the new video game is absolutely an S tier villain. Best version of the character I’ve ever seen.

[@mariahrajput5492]

Fax

[@giiotm8272]

Agreed.. he was easily the best thing about the game tbh lol enjoyed him even more than Venom

[@Jellybob69]

S tier is a bit much. Spectacular Tombstone on the other hand…

[@fwcdisciple9271]

Better than Kraven’s Last Hunt?!

[@noctisluciscaelum211]

@@giiotm8272 Not just Kraven, Carnage and Venom. I'm looking forward to what they do with Carnage, Chamelon and Green goblin next game.

[@SirAsdf]

I think what separates an S-Tier or A-Tier Spidey villain from the lower tiers is the question, "Could I see this guy being a challenge for anyone other than Spider-Man?" Kingpin serves as an excellent final boss for Marvel's more street level heroes. Venom's concept works so well that he's barely even Spider-Man related in the comics anymore. Green Goblin has been the cause for several world altering events in the comics. And Mephisto is literally the devil. Captain America ain't gonna have any trouble fighting Vulture or Chameleon. Just gonna break them into dust.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@SirAsdf I feel like Green Goblin either movie or comic but especially movie GG destroys Cap in a fight. Steve has only ever fought dudes who are relatively sane, Norman is like the Joker if he could lift a truck.

[@thunderphoenix440]

Yeah, that's one of the biggest plusses in the Kingpin's favor. You slot him into pretty much any other Marvel hero's gallery (which they did with Daredevil) and he's still a massive threat.

[@Kjf365]

Green Goblin is really like Spider-Man's Joker. He could easily be a pain and a threat to other heroes, but he chooses to pick on Peter because he's his favorite.

[@TitanCrusher101]

I love how neither Vulture nor Chameleon are in the A-tier

[@gudmundur-heimisson]

With Kingpin as they say in the video he can also slot into a Lex Luthor like business villain role, so even for the higher level heroes he could still cause trouble even if he’s not a physical threat.

[@Kralich]

In one particularly bizarre "what if" story, the Green Goblin's colour scheme was changed drastically, and his powers were oriented around water. However, the new "Aqua Goblin" and his colour scheme proved to be a bust with comic fans and the panels were quickly recoloured in an effort to surprise fans before the news got out, with the artist in charge of this effort codenaming it Blue Harvest.

[@R3D_Lantern]

Cool fact.

[@JacobRavenglass]

Got me.

[@stevencooper564]

Damn, I thought you were going to make a Corn of Cobblin origin, lol.

[@ShorePlain]

You got me, god damn it.

[@Gilgalad1111]

​@@stevencooper564 beat me to this comment

[@thescottishaccent]

Rhino's arc in the Dan Slott Amazing Spider-man run was superb; going straight, losing his wife, still managing to try and just live his life, dragged back in, messed up by having her clone come back and then die in his arms, etc. Plus the scene with him and Silver Sable in the rising water is incredible. Honestly, he's been elevated way beyond the (now fairly pedestrian) "big dumb guy you need to make run into things" characterisation a few times and I wish it would stick.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@thescottishaccent7952 People forget Rhino has fought goddamn Hulk and Juggernaut and given them both trouble he could probably kill Spidey if truly wanted and it's only through Peter's luck and Rhino's lack of commitment that he doesn't.

[@zeywop]

@@li-limandragon9287 pete also has higher physical strength than the majority of marvel heroes, his spider-sense helps him subconsciously pull his punches so he isn't punching normies heads off like hes playing mortal kombat

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@zeywopBut against Rhino that really should just be cute.

[@valentai_777]

@@li-limandragon9287other way around💀 Spidey could easily kill him. Even almost does it in the 90s cartoon

[@Hillthugsta]

On the other end we have Lizard who in my opininion has gone down a few tiers after he ate his son and killed his wife also he is perminantly in Lizard form. Chamelion had a real chance at becomming A or even S tier after he unmasked Spiderman and was gonna 'assault' MJ. I believe they copped out the last second of the story and had MJ beat Chamelion with a baseball bat.

[@iliasVoolgaris]

Shocker has immense play in the video games, for some reason. The dude is in 90% of all Spider-Man video games, since the PS1 days

[@MadraFiáin]

i think it comes from the fact that before the 90's animated show, the shocker was spider-man's most successful villain in the regard he used to win more then half the time whenever he fought spider-man

[@connieworroll368]

Vulture was the first villain canonically to kinda get one over on Spiderman, hence why he tends to always give Spiderman the proper fade one time despite being an old guy

[@rayguym33]

To be fair. In the Spider-Man 2 video game, classic lizard is there but the serum was enhanced by Kraven to make him bigger and deadlier so Kraven could have a better hunt. Classic Lizard with the coat is there but then he grows into what we fight in the game

[@TheScarletTroll]

Mad respect for putting Mephisto in S-tier. As a proxy of Marvel editorial he's truly Spider-Man's greatest foe and done the most long-term damage. He's literally been winning for 16 years and counting.

[@CastleChris92]

I just went to the When We Were Young festival in Las Vegas and saw Dr Michael Morbius himself and his band play live in front of 80,000 people. I cannot stress how much of an awkward show it was. Not once single person was interested, and when he asked the crowd to sing along, it was the loudest silence I've ever heard

[@carl_consumer.of.reality]

Jared Leto is one of the strangest celebrities. He's not a good singer or actor, but he's famous for both

[@sandiegotide6481]

I was there too. Thirty seconds to mars blows

[@connorstromboe5427]

At ACL fest Dr Morbius got upset that the left half of the crowd wasnt singing along and moved to the far right of the stage for the rest of the show

[@alpyki2588]

One of my favorite scenes with Morbius is when he's fighting Blade for the first time. Blade's confused as to why none of his vampire hunting gadgets aren't working, and Morbius is convinced Blade's crazy because vampires do not exist. Another good one is an issue where he manages to get a disguise and goes to work at a hospital. He overhears someone talk about him, and hears that there is a TV movie based upon his life. He is baffled. Somewhere in Marvel cannon a made for TV movie of Morbius exists.

[@JessicaZane4realz]

His writers can be the scariest of them all.

[@1wayroad935]

Paul cannot be denied

[@markclinton9088]

​@@1wayroad935Dread it. Run from it. The cucking still arrives

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@1wayroad935 God I hope Paul just turns out to be Mephisto

[@mttylerdurden9]

More like the editors

[@6kang971]

Fuck Paul and Zeb Wells. Dude ruined everything Nick Spencer's run did towards fixing Peter and MJ's relationship.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Thinking about it, I feel like Doc Ock could be in a tier above S. His 616 debut in the 60s is excellent, the Master Planner arc, founding the Sinister Six, the 90s version, Alfred Molina, William Salyers, Kathryn Hahn, the backpack in the basement of origins, even great in the modern 616 comics that everyone hates.

[@li-limandragon9287]

I think Green Goblin is a several degrees better than Ock no matter what, he hurt Spidey the most first by killing Gwen, in Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts he becomes a threat to the whole goddamn Marvel Universe like Doctor Doom and unlike Doom he's had a pheromonal live action portrayal thank to Willem Dafoe. Not to mention GG gets to be the best parts of Lex Luthor and Joker combined both being evil buinessman and cackling lunatic that just wants to cause chaos. Don't get me wrong Otto is great but I personally think he's too sympathetic be the ultimate nemesis and while everyone goes on about Superior Spider-Man if you put that aside he hasn't done that much while Norman despite being dead for years has done heaps of shit not just to Spidey but the everyone on Marvel Earth. No Way Home just puts the nail in the coffin for me.

[@hollandscottthomas]

@@li-limandragon9287 Ock beats Goblin for me because he's mores successfully manipulative. Heck, he even manages to body-swap Peter to prove he'd make a better Spider-Man.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@hollandscottthomasPeople drone on and on about Superior Spider-Man but name me a single thing Ock has done beyond that.

[@hollandscottthomas]

@@li-limandragon9287 All the stuff in OP’s post.

[@ryancampbell8645]

​@li-limandragon9287 I gotta agree. Ock is great, and clearly an S, but Goblin's glider/weaponry combo is just SO perfect for sick aerial battles with Spidey above the streets of NYC. I know Ock can climb buildings and stuff, but I'm more partial to loop de loops and pumpkin bombs! 🎃

[@Starwebs]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 screenwriters should be in the first place

[@ChrisControversial]

It scares me how many people try to defend those films and this isn't his fault but Andrew Garfield wasn't even good in those movies. He did great in no way home though

[@Antwannnn]

@@ChrisControversial they're fine, def not the worst of the worst. I personally prefer them over Toms trilogy. Plus people cry at the end of TASM 2 BECAUSE of Andrew even tho they dont care for the film, how is that a "wasnt even good"

[@ethanrapp6998]

It sucks cause everything else about the movie (the vfx, the music, the cinematography) was super cool but the script was just so awful

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​​@@Antwannnn it's not a matter of your perspective or what u prefer or not, those movies are just the worst and Tom's are way better

[@BrickMania2]

ehhhh id say the studio is more to blame there. i think if there hadnt been so much studio interference, it’d be closer to a Man of Steel, where it takes some big swings with the lore, but is still an interesting take on the character. But a lot of what makes that movie a tough watch are the things mandated by the studio. I’m not here to defend the movie, it was bad, but a script goes through so many hands once it’s done, i don’t think the blame falls on them

[@mase6978]

New Goblin also deserves S-tier cause of his wicked cool snowboard

[@kingfield99]

Tubular.

[@R3D_Lantern]

He also had a cool sword. Can't forget that.

[@videogamenostalgia]

Don’t forget New Coblin with his plasma corn holders and flying stick of butter

[@thread6971]

Funnily enough you put Scorpion pretty low but during the 2000's he became venom for quite a few years and ended up being more menacing and dangerous than Eddie Brock

[@Hillthugsta]

I hated that era of Scorpion. Making him Venom felt redundant in my eyes because Scorpion was the original villian with a similiar gimmick thing.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Not only that but he is tied to Jonah Jameson as well who got him in the suit and he hates him as much as Spider-Man. He shares this with the Smythe's, Spencer and Alister

[@KrotharSmash]

Scorpion will always be a solid A tier for me. Yes, he's one of those guys that King Pin would hire to defeat Spiderman but how could you not love his gunk firing tail in the 90's show? Guess they couldn't show a tail that would pierce someone.

[@mctown972]

If Bully Maguire is not S-tier, I swear I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye….

[@mttylerdurden9]

Mr.Sunday Movies: I missed the part where that's my problem.😂😂😂😂

[@nelsonmesa6785]

Carnage is A tier at the MINIMUM. He has merged with so many other people forming crazy bad guys over the years. Carnage + Doc Ock - terrifying. Carnage and Green Goblin - wild!

[@Golem29]

Yeah that's the big error in this list, Carnage should be A or S

[@yobroski3575]

Nah carnage was too much 90s edginess to be up there with the others, still good just not great

[@a_fine_edition2746]

Ehh… I honestly think that’s solidly justified placement. He’s only ever used for big event stuff now. He’s ludicrously strong and barely even a Spider-Man villain these days. If anything, Kingpin is the major placement I disagree with. The dude is B-tier at best when he’s a Spidey villain.

[@ashb7]

You're making a solid point against your own opinion with your reasoning, if the best you can say about him is that it's scary when the Carnage symbiote takes over far better villains. Carnage isn't the Carnage symbiote + Doc Ock or anyone else, it's the symbiote + Cletus Kasady. And Cletus is the most one-dimensional villain of all time. Like his entire character is that he's a psychopathic serial killer who really enjoys killing. I like that he exists, it's fine to have a few villains who're just straight up evil, no BS. But he can't really be above B-tier for that reason.

[@munohlow]

Jackal was an old man with a bowl cut and a big silly mustache who was in love with Gwen Stacy and tried to clone her. That’s pretty evil

[@hollandscottthomas]

He was also responsible for one of the comic arcs that brought the most suffering on Spidey readers. True villainy.

[@thebloodyaussie1458]

The Insomniac team did a freaking phenomenal job with a lot of these villains but especially Venom. I was legitimately terrified of him in this game in the best way possible.

[@fraserduffy4576]

Special props to the animators, Tony Todd did a fantastic job with the voice, but there’s something so unsettling about how Venom moved and how his mouth morphed.

[@tinyan7145]

I'm excited to see how they will adapt the green goblin. They should make him terrifying too.

[@nick_j3831]

Need better designers for their villains

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

They did Kraven and Venom really good, also they proved once again that evil Venom is mich better than anti-hero Venom

[@TheSenateOfficial]

Idk I really really love Donny Cates Venom, the Rememder era of venom was great too. Having said that, I love a big ol evil venom too

[@RedNinja115]

If we’re going with what we’ve seen recently then kraven is absolutely an S Tier thanks to spider man 2, genuinely they made him a threatening presence and his characterization was done perfectly in my opinion

[@CrossOutBryce]

Scorpion and Rhino are super interesting because in recent years, they've kinda been moved over to be A list villains for Miles in comics. Same with Mr. Negative and Carnage.

[@Dwyer-nl9fz]

Miles stealing more of peters things 😂

[@UncreativeHandle48]

@@Dwyer-nl9fzThere’s the potential to make a joke about black people stealing but I’m not going to say it.

[@Dwyer-nl9fz]

@@UncreativeHandle48 😉

[@rambopack9140]

@@Dwyer-nl9fzfax

[@Johnnysmithy24]

@@Dwyer-nl9fz Fr🤦‍♂️

[@bigcoupon421]

This was great. Would love to see you do the same with the Batman rogues

[@li-limandragon9287]

Warner Brothers is S-tier surely.

[@ryancampbell8645]

You gotta give Spidey and Bats an S tier rank for their rogues galleries as a whole!

[@kyleholden5537]

I wish the rhino got more love. My favorite moment from him was in one of the recent comics. A bit of backstory for this comic is that he retired, settled down and got married, then his wife gets brutally murdered and he goes back to a life of crime, claiming that was his punishment for ever thinking his hands could be washed clean. So spiderman and silver Sable are trying to stop another doc ock destroy the world plot and while they make their way through a flooding room, in front of them stands the rhino, he grabs Sable and declares that he will not move. And as this room fills up with water he will not move. As the water fills their lungs, he will not move. His grip will loosen only after they both are dead and he can be reunited with his wife. Making Peter have to make the difficult decision of leaving Sable to die to save the world.

[@UnkemptBushell]

Love having me a Tuesday afternoon rank. Thanks, gents.

[@spencerpommier806]

Okay, weekly villain rankings is a brilliant idea. I usually skip around these list but I'm genuinely excited for these.

[@FrankLeeYoung]

James and Mason are officially put into the D tier list for not mentioning Tombstone's amazing role in The Spectacular Spider-Man

[@lorenzomillan9724]

Carnage just acquired all the powers, by aborbing hydroman then the spot, then forging a new all-black, then going through the multiverse and aborbing venoms, with powers that make him immune to his weaknesses, aswell as anti-venom, dream-stone venom. Silver surfer venom, and to top it all off, knull himself

[@mittinman]

Maybe his best villains are really just the friends he made along the way..

[@munohlow]

Nah, C tier. Mid

[@thunderphoenix440]

You're talking about Harry Osborn, ain't ya.

[@CharcoalSparks]

Hulk over the years has had good villians. Space whales, intamacy, mutant french poodles, stairs, ang lee and his own dark thoughts. Rank em:)

[@itsahostiletakeover]

This is a pretty good ranking list in all honesty. If I were nitpicking, I'd put Scorpion from C to B based on the fact that Mac Gargan was also the wearer of the Venom symbiote for quite some time, mainly under the employ of Norman Osborn in his Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers days.

[@Kratosx23]

I always wondered how the guys trapped in suits who can’t get out like Rhino went to the bathroom.

[@braydoboss9505]

Why do you think they're so angry?

[@Cleanpea]

@@braydoboss9505 Yeah, we don't really want to know

[@SuperBananaSalad]

The mention of corn of coblin has made me actually tear up on a terrible day this is why I absolutely love you guys

[@ayayronm]

No lie, I like how Electro in the Amazing Spider-Man 2 had the electrical engineer origin but then reworked to include experimental electric eels. It fits the whole Animal Kingdom/Insect motif of Spider-Man's Rogues Gallery. Like even how Kraven becomes a lion to fit the motif in the Spectacular Spiderman cartoon.

[@grwaqulmolegames184]

In my opinion, characters who are more directly tied with Peter's day-to-day life are automatically more interesting and will be at least B and up teir.

[@ryancampbell8645]

I reckon a tier list for superheroes based on the quality of their rogues gallery as a whole would make a sweet video! Like, you know Spidey and Bats are S tier right off the bat.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I've got a soft spot in my heart for the Spot. He was in the very first Spider-Man comic that I ever read.

[@samduddington2886]

I think more props need to be given to James for his Willem Dafoe/Dafriend joke xD Had me howling.

[@charleswood123]

Complete gold. Went right over maso’s head.

[@hollandscottthomas]

@@charleswood123 It's an old meme, Maso definitely knew it and decided to let it slide on by.

[@Burner-td4cu]

Went over masos head? Are you high? It’s the oldest meme in the book Jesus Christ. Are you American or something? Never heard a joke before??

[@kypzethdurron]

They say it every time he's mentioned on the podcast tbf

[@jackkelly9048]

Norman as Green Goblin and Mysterio are my personal all time fave Spidey villains, great designs, deceptively simple concepts straight out of the 60s that have survived and changed over time while still being true to the original ideas, a great mix of campy and menacing if not actually psychotic, love em. Chameleon is underrated and underused in my opinion, similar strengths/deception concept to Mysterio without as bold a look, with more work put in he could stand his own.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Norman is the best and I liked him better than even Joker because he can be Lex Luthor as well. They could just do a Norman Osborn movie or series liek with Joker and it would do great.

[@stefansamoyloff3866]

To this day, the most terrifying MCU villain is Adrian Toomes. Not The Valture. Just ... Michael Keaton pulls off slowly coming to the realization that "Oh, I guess I'm going to have to murder a child" in such a believable and horrifying way that it gave me chills.

[@Batman-rl1ph]

That shot in the car with the traffic lights changing from red to green as he realises Peter's secret always sends chills down my spine

[@PurpleMush12]

okay

[@jonbaxter2254]

Still surprised how well Big Kick Man did against Cap on the boat in Winter Soldier. He held his own for a good long while.

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

I think he's actually decent in the comics, threat wise. Not great but not a complete joke either. I have a book when Bucky was Captain America and he put up a decent fight in that too. Though it's been a long time since I read it so my memory might be a bit off.

[@ShadyGrandson]

Well it was GSP they couldn’t have him just get mauled lol

[@Burner-td4cu]

GSP*

[@HopUpOutDaBed]

they shouldn't be allowed to have a villain named Electro and a completely different villain named Shocker at the same time. I used to always get them confused.

[@Telorchid]

These lists are a lot of fun. Well done, mates. I disliked the inclusion of Mephisto on your list as I think he's just not associated with Spider-Man enough, but I LOVED that you included the people who came up with Brand New Day with Mephisto. 'By what in-universe mechanics should we reset Spider-Man's love life?' 'Deal with the devil?!' 'Great idea!' 🤡 Also would have placed Kingpin lower not because I don't like the character or because he has no association with Spider-Man - he originated in Amazing - but because at this point I feel like he belongs more to Daredevil (Into The Spider-Verse notwithstanding).

[@beepbooplettuce]

i agree with you on mephisto, the fact mephisto he is s tier as well doesnt sit right with me

[@JamesPlaysGames95]

Corn of Coblin and Mr Dinosaur would be a dangerous duo to face

[@NateArchibaldWithTheFro]

The electro in the 2003 MTV animated series is really terrifying. I like a Spider-Man villain that can be silly or spooky as all hell depending on the version

[@Volttikoira]

You missed J. Jonah Jameson. Not really a villain, but definitely an antagonist. Should be S tier.

[@blackaddam9033]

I always liked that he respected Peter Parker though. And there were a few times that he risked his life to protect others

[@voidaspects9173]

Its interesting hie prowler is so firmly recognized as a villain after spider-verse, yet he's been a hero for like 99% of his existence. Like he had so thoroughly reformed as a character that they barely referenced him as a criminal. Hawkeye was a villain for longer than him. ....this isnt a nitpick, i just genuinely find the reputation he has to be super interesting

[@christianmanka3884]

Hobgoblin and Tombstone are both made great by the cartoons they starred in.

[@nintendeonerd3103]

Tier list looks fine and good but, the deep emotional connection between lizard and Peter, how he's always so desperate to save him, makes him go higher in the list.

[@gregdennison5753]

I loved it when James said "It's ranking time" and then ranked all over the place.

[@jonasquinn7977]

I always remember my first exposure to Tombstone was when he was used as a replacement for Kingpin in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon

[@lukelaws3545]

I believe there’s a comic where Kingpin organized an attack on Spiderman and almost killed Aunt May which leads to Spiderman almost killing Kingpin in prison in front of all the other criminals there. If you can push Spiderman to that dark of a place, think you may be a good villain. A good villain can bring out the worst in our heroes.

[@ciaranmcguinness8900]

That is Back in Black, it's set right after Civil War where Peter unveiled himself as Spider-Man publicly, obviously that went terribly and his enemies all now know who he is with Kingpin sending a sniper to take him out but the bullet hits Aunt May and he goes after Kingpin for revenge putting the Black suit back on for the first time in years. An actual Black suit not an alien symbiote but still it gives him such an intimidating look especially when he's mowing his way through Kingpins gang without cracking a single joke and eventually he almost kills Kingpin in front of his gang, it's an awesome story but unfortunately it's followed up by the Mephisto stuff which just put me off reading Spider-Man for good with how bad that crap was.

[@MichaelTaylor-qp2xf]

Seeing Carnage in B-Tier hurts, considering he's more powerful and more evil than Venom, he belongs alongside Venom rather than besides Rhino and Vulture.

[@2723cadd]

Release the fifth element caravan of garbage! Please

[@HaussmannComics]

I recently held a fan poll with very similar results

[@anthonybehan6031]

My favourite thing about Spidermans villains is, he has so many who have insanely dangerous powers but they are just goons who want to rob banks.

[@errantrazor]

I love that you guys are going hard on the hot new KZbin trend of 2020.

[@Elnis888]

I'm really happy to see they included Morlun on the list, but I'm bummed he got such a low rating. I've only ever seen Morlun in the story where he was introduced: "Coming Home". MAN was he an awesome opponent in that story! The writers made him so threatening that I was legitimately fearing for Peter Parker's life! But a really fun video (as always) 🙂

[@li-limandragon9287]

Cannot stand the Inheritors, they killed heaps of great alternate universe Spider-Men and they made Japanese Spider-Man job to them. Screw them.

[@Elnis888]

@@li-limandragon9287 I have no idea who the Inheritors are.

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@Elnis888They are where Morlun comes from the Inheritors . Like if Doomsday was lame family of Vampires

[@Elnis888]

@@li-limandragon9287 Oh, I see. Like the Cullen family from Twilight, then ;-P

[@danieltolmie4904]

Big kick on the boat guy is GSP one of the greatest fighters of all time, so kinda adds to the point lol

[@BenM.Davies]

The mention of Corn of Coblin made me so happy, a running joke that never died.

[@bipstern]

So glad you acknowledged corn of Coblin

[@g0tmadsk1llz38]

Big wheel not being S tier is unforgivable

[@madduxnagel6935]

Clear showing of nitpicking and bias

[@Juggernaut4299]

​@@madduxnagel6935it's a joke

[@madduxnagel6935]

@@Juggernaut4299 …bruh.

[@cinemasaur]

I love how they neglect the A tier and go mostly for S and B. Perfect vid

[@NoelGallagher69]

Avi Arad is easily S-tier... c'mon guys

[@SlowBrainXeno]

In terms of adaptations, Kraven in the new spider-man 2 game was incredible

[@mathiaswalker350]

God. Tombstone is a great movie. Bloody Doc Holiday, are you kidding me, Val Kilmer at his best.

[@GitShiddy]

I kinda love they put Mephisto in S-tier. Dude did one thing and irreparably damaged Spider-Man for going on 20 years now. That said he's still got nothing on the concept of Clones. The true bane of Spider-Man since 1994.

[@I_Am_The_One_Who_Knocks.]

Anyone else’s kraven go up after playing spider-man 2

[@Celtics_fan_33]

I can’t believe you didn’t rank my favorite Spider Man villain The Looter! It goes without saying he is S tier.

[@brandongnuschke3870]

You forgot the greatest Spider-Man villain of them all… Ari Arad.

[@AC-hj9tv]

I need a 3 hr video on corn of coblin lore

[@ethanrapp6998]

I'd swap Electro and Lizard because even though Lizard has stronger motivations I think lightning powers are cooler and I enjoyed how Peter first beat him in the comics. Also I enjoy Hans Zimmer's Electro Suite, no other spider man villain has a cooler musical theme associated with them other than maybe Prowler. Other than that small change, perfect tier list.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Spider-Man New Animated Series (the CG one) had the best Electro, tragic and scary as fuck. Like the Fly meets Carrie but electricity.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Condemn Lizard to C tier?? I'm afraid that just won't do! Dr connors has too much of an impact on spiderman lore, and I feel like his dynamic with spiderman was so cool it rivals his relationships with Doc ock or Green goblin.

[@joseaguilera6355]

Top tier I’d say Kingpin, Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Lizard and Vulture

[@RiceCubeTech]

Kraven deserves S imo. He had one of the longest lasting PTSD type moments on Spider-Man after Goblin and Venom. Kravens last hunt is also a masterful execution of story telling.

[@panmush]

If this could be a constant part of my Tuesday that would be greaaaaat

[@Design909.]

The Kraven in the Spider-Man 2 is incredibly done

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

A great adaptation of Kraven's last hunt

[@stuntsforlife3098]

I’d like to see a batman villian tier list. we could compare the two and see who has the best rogues gallery

[@fullbellyedits7453]

Venom because he's packin.

[@R3D_Lantern]

18ins of Venom.

[@jordanscott4543]

@@R3D_Lantern19 actually

[@ThunderCatsAreGo01]

I've never heard someone make a "DaFriend or DaFoe" joke before, which is crazy because it's like RIGHT there ya know. Also, Mysterio is S tier, that boss fight in spiderman 2 for the ps2 at the statue of liberty, soo good

[@wyatttmc]

Oh so that's why it's called Blue Harvest.

[@viscera_atrocity]

"What's [Carnage] done lately?" I wish he wasn't doing anything lately, by god. It's like we're back in the days of Venom-mania again.

[@mattgilbert7347]

"If you stole a Shocker suit from a police evidence locker, who would know?" *You'd* know

[@ericwalsh2954]

The best part of this channel is nick and maso clearly know enough abouy comics they could probably make an actual tier list, i know they ainy reasearching the kraven nipppe lazer

[@TheJesselopez1981]

If you want an S tier clip look up, Kingpin struggles to climb ladder. Its from the animated series and its hilarious. You're welcome.

[@R3D_Lantern]

I'll have to look into this.

[@KOTF3005]

S: Venom, Green Goblin, Dock Ock A: Kingpin, Sandman, Mysterio, Kraven, Lizard B: Rhino, Vulture, Black Cat, Carnage, Spot, Prowler C: Scorpion, Electro, Hobgoblin, Mr Negative D: Mephisto, Chameleon, Shocker, Tombstone, Hammerhead, Morbius, Big Wheel E: Morlun, El Muerte F: Wolf Man No one asked but here’s my list.

[@swaggyandtimmy5520]

Carnage at B tier is unforgiveable 😭

[@nextisland8402]

Um, you missed The Jackal, and I'm mad about that!!! Just kidding, great list, great reasoning, could listen to you guys do this all day, and have. Every now and then I run every Caravan of Garbage video on a loop in the background while I go about my day. Awesome content!

[@nashmcbride1541]

Maso talking about carnage: yeah but whats he been in latley James: that movie! absolute carnage: Am I a joke to you??

[@kevinboggan]

no frickin way did we just get return of corn of coblin !!!! Maso you're too kind