Ranking Every Starship Enterprise from Worst to Best

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@Spacedock
@Spacedock 2 жыл бұрын
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@yashroy7424
@yashroy7424 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna do an expanse trailer breakdown video??
@merkarion7883
@merkarion7883 2 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely your opinion that the Excelsior Refit (Enterprise-B) looks better as the original Excelsior Design ;)
@Ushio01
@Ushio01 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that the Enterprise D refit from the final TNG episode isn't featured.
@zoberraz
@zoberraz 2 жыл бұрын
I could've predicted your #1 favorite was the Enterprise-E. the rest was a pleasant surprise; also nice to see your reasonings for how the other ships stood out positively or negatively. :) You did not include the Enterprise-F that Star Trek Online introduced. I was curious to know if you had any opinion on it. Though, if you were sponsored by STFC... probably hard to refer to a ship that's from a different game than theirs (and that they possibly don't have licence to include in their game).
@David-jt9nt
@David-jt9nt 2 жыл бұрын
i stand with with you on everything except the NX was my favorite for me it would be a clean move from 5 to 1 with everything just shifting down. IDK why but I liked it the best
@jonathanayres6005
@jonathanayres6005 2 жыл бұрын
The Sovereign Class Enterprise is gorgeous, from the hull exterior to the layout of the bridge. The bridge design, now over 25 years, still looks modern and sleek today, can't fault it.
@michelseibriger12
@michelseibriger12 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed- looking back, the effects in the battle of the Basin Rift of Star Trek Nemesis aged like a fine wine, in no small part due to seeing the Sovereign
@roaldjeanstorbank1351
@roaldjeanstorbank1351 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw it on screen, I hated it... I was expecting a beefed up Galaxy and I felt the E was a fat looking crap pile. In time however, I have come to Love it, especially once I started realizing how they designed it (the Warship over Love-boat design)
@fuzzyduck2682
@fuzzyduck2682 2 жыл бұрын
25 years!!!! thanks for making me feel older than the ark! ..... jeeeez
@CaptRicoSakara
@CaptRicoSakara 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the first version of the Sovereign Bridge, with the Holo-Viewscreen and dim lighting was the overall BEST design. It pissed me off that they removed the holo-screen with a small, Voyager-like view screen and brighten up the lighting in the later two films - those two didn't work for me. Screw you, behind-the-scenes budget costs! XP
@00nick7
@00nick7 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@MethodSkeptic
@MethodSkeptic 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about the NX class is just how much it cuts the silhouette of a Constitution class from so many angles but then the camera moves or it changes course and it suddenly reveals that it’s an entirely distinct construction. I never get tired of that.
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. While there are aspects of the NX I don't particularly like I will say that as a pre-Federation, purely Earth design it's perfect. Plus it has my absolute favorite warp core.
@thomasbranch3826
@thomasbranch3826 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the NX class it looks like it was the predecessor to the Tos constitution class ships.
@irregularassassin6380
@irregularassassin6380 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the NX looks like it's a tool that's barely going to be up to the task, and then you see it in its element and you realize that it's not the best ship we've ever seen, but it's all that it's crew will ever need. It can scan well enough, fly fast enough, take enough of a beating to let its crew handle the job and get back to exploring. It's a leading-edge, all-rounder, workhorse with a supercharged engine and a powerful scanner packed into a durable chassis. What more do you want? A holodeck? Nah, son, we've got a projector and a shit-ton of popcorn, we're good.
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasbranch3826 It was more realistic in being a pre-1701 ship than the too modern JJ Abrams and Discovery ships. Having grown up watching "TOS", I wouldn't expect the ship in the first JJ Abrams to immediately follow the NX-01.
@filthycasual8187
@filthycasual8187 2 жыл бұрын
@@virginiaconnor8350 According to the comics, it didn't. There was another Enterprise commanded by Captain Robert April that more closely resembled the TOS Enterprise before the Kelvin Timeline Enterprise was built.
@libbydibbydoo
@libbydibbydoo 2 жыл бұрын
I love the NX01, especially how manual it all is. You have to open doors with a button, and step over thresholds like in a sub. The texture is amazing, with all those individual labeled panels. The pilot uses a joystick. And the grappler, my favorite low tech weapon. Of all of the Ents, the NX01 felt the most high stakes and fragile, just right for humanity’s first foray into space.
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba 2 жыл бұрын
Similar technology vibe to the 2000s remake of Battlestar Galactica, doors and thresholds and buttons 😁
@filthycasual8187
@filthycasual8187 2 жыл бұрын
@@SportyMabamba Funny you should mention that. They came out at around roughly the same time; at the very least they were contemporaries of one another.
@a.tiberiusk4725
@a.tiberiusk4725 Жыл бұрын
I so agree it’s like how Tom Paris had his shuttle with knobs, and lever’s.
@AlistairAi
@AlistairAi Жыл бұрын
Star Trek Enterprise was so slept on it’s sad
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын
@@AlistairAi Slept on?
@Magnogen
@Magnogen 2 жыл бұрын
YES! "The Blue Hue of Doom" is such a good way to describe the space scenes of Discovery. I will definitely use that in the future!
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 2 жыл бұрын
The crew of Enterprise J have their own personal vehicles to drive around from deck to deck.
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 2 жыл бұрын
JJ Enterprise has its own brewery.
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 2 жыл бұрын
Originally the Galaxy class was built during the " Glory" days of the Federation when their ego was big. They believed the Galaxy was at peace , and optimism was big. Then came the new enemies. The Galaxy class had to prove her worth in New battles.
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 2 жыл бұрын
That shot of every ship showing up at once. " Captain Kirk, .....the Enterprise is the only ship in the quadrant." They only wanted Kirk to quit lounging around in the movies. In Picard, we see that star fleet had plenty of other ships on hand.
@esecallum
@esecallum Жыл бұрын
yes the lighting was crap...dark blue neon dark blurry. hazy depressing.
@Mirage_Mach5
@Mirage_Mach5 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the Enterprise Refit/-A were the most beautiful versions of the Enterprise. The least elegant was the Enterprise-J.
@michaelwhiles5282
@michaelwhiles5282 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed - they reached a design peak - so well balanced - frankly the JJ & TRASH trek ships are just that - TRASH - the J stands for JOKE.....however I quite liked the NX too..
@IchigoKurosakicool
@IchigoKurosakicool 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwhiles5282 Uhm, J is from the original TV series and not Kelvin Timeline. JJprise is as beautiful as some other ships you'd see, people have preferences so just calling things trash isn't the way, and there's a ton more ships in kelvin timeline that looks phenomenal.
@cobracommander2778
@cobracommander2778 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwhiles5282 the js stand for JAR JAR abrams.
@cobracommander2778
@cobracommander2778 2 жыл бұрын
@@IchigoKurosakicool hello joke....the only good thing to be said about anything from the jjverse is that its not a bad as std and star tp and anything else from the even bigger piece of garbage than jar jar abrams kirkman.
@cobracommander2778
@cobracommander2778 2 жыл бұрын
@@IchigoKurosakicool oh and the enterprise J is NOT from the original series. It is from enterprise. No wonder u like jarjarverse.
@raptor050
@raptor050 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Sovereign Class Enterprise has to be one of the most elegant Federation Starship design. It's beauty matches its ferocity in the Battlefield of Starships.
@pjduker05
@pjduker05 2 жыл бұрын
If the future holds ships like this for us it would be a huge mistake and missed opportunity to not build the real thing. Like the way they build modern cars with 50s and 60s designs esthetics. And in an era where form no longer has to follow function. Why not right?
@johnathanbutler7718
@johnathanbutler7718 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the B looking better then the og excelsior. But the sovereign is roughly the same size as the galaxy while it is shorter deckwise its longer
@emperorgizmo3014
@emperorgizmo3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnathanbutler7718 it's not that much longer and the D as way more internal volume. If I were on a five year mission I want the Galaxy Class. If I were going into battle, no question the Sovereign is what you stand the best chance with.🙂👍
@emperorgizmo3014
@emperorgizmo3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@kobayashimaru8114 there's no reason why it can't be both.
@johnathanbutler7718
@johnathanbutler7718 2 жыл бұрын
@@emperorgizmo3014 that's likely true but the size isn't that signicant. The crew of the E was around 700 and we never see family onboard (though it likely did have families on board after the dominion war) the D had a total crew complement of around 1000 including families. Also I don't know where this notion that the galaxy was weak or somehow just a huge luxury liner. She was still the premier starship of the line and sent out when starfleet need to make a show of strength. I think people missed the point of the Odyssey being destroyed by the dominion in DS9
@zeekfarrongaming5302
@zeekfarrongaming5302 2 жыл бұрын
Even though it isn’t canon, I absolutely love the Odyssey class Enterprise F from Star Trek Online and is probably my favorite in all of Star Trek
@KevinMcClelland1701
@KevinMcClelland1701 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the Odyssey and Yorktown are canon due to being featured in the canon Star Trek Picard tie-in graphic novel Prelude. It clearly shows Picard and Raffi being in command of the U.S.S. Verity. I just checked and its not listed on memory alpha but it is on memory beta. I believe any books published since Discovery are now canon. But i do very specifically recall especially the picard prelude was canon to season 1 of Picard. If i can find any links to support this, i will try and update this comment with them, for now a pinch of salt I guess. Cheers!
@flood256
@flood256 2 жыл бұрын
no memory alpha entry on the verity so hard to say, (i know it's a fan wiki but it's generally kept up to date on things considered canon)
@neilsonnentag917
@neilsonnentag917 2 жыл бұрын
In my world I'll consider the enterprise-f cannon before I ever consider the enterprise-j or any of the j.j. prizes
@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Odyssey class, but not as an Enterprise. Good on ya though
@HHHTheGame01
@HHHTheGame01 Жыл бұрын
Well, wish granted... it looks absolutely stunning in that one shot too. Looking forward to seeing it in action.
@hajkie
@hajkie 2 жыл бұрын
I think galaxy class must be my favorite, just because of how much over the 7 years we get to explore over it. The ship becomes so personal somehow.
@KH4444444444N
@KH4444444444N 2 жыл бұрын
Galaxy Class is the most elegant and beautiful.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
yes this list is a travesty.
@Fallschirmjager4242
@Fallschirmjager4242 4 ай бұрын
The .galaxy looks like a bloated whale ugliest class 8n in trek
@cliffcorson4000
@cliffcorson4000 2 жыл бұрын
The enterprise-B style looks like a warship version of the Excelsior class. The flaring around the nacelles and deflector dish look like extra armor plating
@seanmccarthy7591
@seanmccarthy7591 2 жыл бұрын
All that extra plating didn't help Kirk much though did it?
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 2 жыл бұрын
Calling back to torpedo bulges in battleships, eh?
@cliffcorson4000
@cliffcorson4000 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanmccarthy7591 that's because his plot armor wasn't due till tuesday
@cliffcorson4000
@cliffcorson4000 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuahadams basically If you also look at it as what was done with the T-34 Russian tanks with the sloped armor could help deflect impacts so that if a torpedo were fired at the nacelles or defector dish areas it could restrict damage
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 2 жыл бұрын
To me it’s the long-range exploration or command version. Meant to serve as a small base of operations in uncharted regions or the frontline. Even as a light carrier in a pinch. The extra volume was for added shuttle/secondary craft capacity and the extra impulse engines to compensate for the extra mass.
@jamesgates5375
@jamesgates5375 2 жыл бұрын
NCC-1701-A, from ST IV, V, and VI. Hands down. Even though it's pretty much identical to the Refit from TMP, there's no denying how iconic this design is, and how beautiful it looks. This will always be my favorite of all the Enterprise designs.
@AT2Productions
@AT2Productions 2 жыл бұрын
Externally, other than a color update for ST:VI, the A is the same as the refit from ST:TMP/II/III.
@GoonerJim1
@GoonerJim1 2 жыл бұрын
The way the A was shot in VI was fantastic, best rendition of the Enterprise for me
@Restitutor_Orbis_214
@Restitutor_Orbis_214 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree it's the most beautiful Enterprise of all designs and most iconic.
@katherineberger6329
@katherineberger6329 2 жыл бұрын
@@AT2Productions In fact it's the same model just with the NCC-1701 decaling rotated slightly and a "-A" added.
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the roided-out Enterprise from All Good Things didn't get a mention. There's something endearingly over-the-top about its third grafted-on nacelle and the giant guns mounted on the saucer. It's like something a 12-year-old me would've drawn in math class.
@TheTransporter007
@TheTransporter007 11 ай бұрын
Roided out is probably the most underrated way to describe the 1701-D from that episode. 🤣
@kaseyboles30
@kaseyboles30 4 ай бұрын
That third nacelle was a bad idea. The underslung cannon was good though. That and a cloak alone were enough to sell it as a major refit version.
@andersonic
@andersonic 2 жыл бұрын
Strange New Worlds has proven you right. They improved the Discovery model and shoot it with gorgeous angles and lighting. It feels very physical and every shot is like a celebration of the TOS aesthetic.
@thomgizziz
@thomgizziz Жыл бұрын
You are high and this video creator is proving more and more how little people should listen to him.
@thecommuterzombie
@thecommuterzombie 2 жыл бұрын
You're not alone in liking the B and the E. Something about the no nonsense chunkiness of the Excelsior class has always appealed to me and the Ent-B really perfected the look of that class for me. The Sovereign just feels right as a post Dominion War Federation capital ship and manages to look both sleek and powerful.
@GeeVanderplas
@GeeVanderplas 2 жыл бұрын
Excelsior is my favorite class, but I thought the added bits on the B took away a bit from the elegance of the design. But still a beautiful ship!
@bitharne
@bitharne 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeeVanderplas I find the opposite. I think the excelsior looks derpy without the B-refit. Always have. The secondary hull slopping down looks odd outside of the Sovereign (which has matching curves to tie it in) 🤷🏼‍♂️
@JaredLS10
@JaredLS10 2 жыл бұрын
The Excelsior refit just looks better to me but it also makes more sense, the addition to the nacelles which I can only assume were basard collectors is an upgrade to the original nacelles that just seemed out of place to me considering we had seen two previous types of nacelles with basard collectors and all of a sudden we don't. Having a flared out secondary hull fits as it guard the deflector dish better.
@henriqueulbrichoficial
@henriqueulbrichoficial 2 жыл бұрын
You are all mad! The Excelsior is an ugly piece of clunky junk! It's a ball with a disc! How can you find it appealing?
@seanc9401
@seanc9401 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not the only person who loves the Enterprise-B. The Enterprise B is my second favorite Enteprise (E being my all time favorite) and it DOES look better than the original Excelsior.
@lnsyt5282
@lnsyt5282 2 жыл бұрын
I think the original is better but i still share you opinon
@davidestep2912
@davidestep2912 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@SeanPFoster
@SeanPFoster 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I love the Enterprise-B.
@JaredLS10
@JaredLS10 2 жыл бұрын
Same, always liked they added bussard collectors on the nacelles, looks way better then the full on wrap around blue.
@steelchaffinch12
@steelchaffinch12 2 жыл бұрын
Adore the Enterprise B and totally agree with it being an improved Excelsior model.
@JezOnYT88
@JezOnYT88 2 жыл бұрын
i love the fact you gave a big thumbs up to the NX enterprise. i love the style of it because it has the vibe of starting off as a star fairing race. AND i love the fact that First Contact has an NX in the display cabinet, nice little recognition of the series
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you... The "Strange New Worlds" Enterprise is beautiful indeed!
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
@mikehendon7327
@mikehendon7327 2 жыл бұрын
Connie refit will forever be a hard one to beat, for me. The art-deco nacelles, the angles and lines, the way she seems to gleam like sails catching the sun. Excelsior Refit was always my close second, and yeah, very much took the original Excelsior and made it better.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was tossed up between the refit and the e for #1. The e is super well designed, and absolutely beautiful, but the refit, to me at least was when st got real. I'd call it more iconic than tos personally. Like Daniel noted, tos did look like a toy, and seeing the refit in the theater was just awesome. Personally I always love the pearl in the paint, and the advent of aztecing.
@noneya3635
@noneya3635 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I do think it's hilarious that when talking about the sturdiness of the Excelsior that he shows one beat to sht in the DS9 battle for Cardasia.
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go 2 жыл бұрын
@@noneya3635 Lasting 100 years is a kind of sturdiness, and bigger ships were getting spanked just as easily. But yeah it is funny.
@creampop8553
@creampop8553 2 жыл бұрын
I won't lie, it's a gorgeous ship. But there are some parts I don't like. The neck torpedo bays, the impulse bay. Sorta miss the big gold dish. But they don't completely ruin the ship.
@benbunch4159
@benbunch4159 2 жыл бұрын
Connie refit in its final outing in Stat Trek VI is top to bottom gorgeous inside and out.
@atatreet
@atatreet 2 жыл бұрын
thinking about that scene from picard where the fleet appears, and about how just, a single sovereign jumping in, shown on camera from that view flying over the camera, would have been far more of a 'you're in trouble now, the fleet is here' moment than copy pasted ships from far away, the sovereign shown with fluid, close in shots is far more powerful on camera and feels like it would genuinely be scary to most potential hostiles
@Uzarran
@Uzarran 2 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct. That fleet needed way more beef to it. Though, I'd actually have preferred a three-nacelle Galaxy-class instead of the E, or at least in addition to. It might be more thematically appropriate, given Picard should be lining up with All Good Things.
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 2 жыл бұрын
Especially if it was flying the 1701-E hull number. That's the ship that destroyed the Scimitar after all.
@cloudwatcher608
@cloudwatcher608 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed a lot of Picard, but that scene was such a slap in the face to the fandom. We would have preferred 10 appropriate and beautiful ships, new and old classes mixed, to the poorly designed and rendered copy/pasted 100 ships we got. It’s so frustrating that these show makers don’t realize that we prefer spectacle over scope. Not every story line has to be a threat to the entire galaxy to be interesting, and neither does a fleet need 100 new ships.
@Alex-Rocks
@Alex-Rocks 2 жыл бұрын
Some surprises, but no complaints! Love the Sovereign Class, def my favourite Star fleet ship Design! Also, I'm thankfull the NX- Class gets some well deserved love, it's such a great looking early stage Enterprise- esque ship... Only change I'd make would be to rank the KTL ships higher, these are just gorgeous in my opinion!
@filthycasual8187
@filthycasual8187 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to say, I'm a fan of pretty much any Enterprise without letters at the end of its registry number. While the D was my first, I'm more partial to the NX-01 and the NCC-1701 for their practicality in design. NX-01 especially looks like one we could build and fly today if money (and figuring out the propulsion system) weren't an issue.
@davidlentz4600
@davidlentz4600 2 жыл бұрын
As Scotty said in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Relics": "No A, B, C, or D!"
@thomgizziz
@thomgizziz Жыл бұрын
We could fly any of them... do you think they fly through the air? You can fly a brick in space and it wouldnt matter... smh
@Blacky123B52
@Blacky123B52 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad that NX-1 got so high on the list, as my love for Star Trek started with this ship.
@TheUglyPrimadonna
@TheUglyPrimadonna 2 жыл бұрын
Galaxy class fanboi here. Maybe because of nostalgia as it was my first exposure to Trek (that together withVoy on Sunday noon TV in Germany during the early noughties) but I just really dig how something that was designed to be futuristic in the eighties still looks modern and yes, futuristic, in this day and age. To me it just aged incredibly well, much better that the TOS era designs. I also love how the warp nacelles are balanced in between the saucer and secondary hull, not stick out far above or below either section - which to me would just be unbalanced for a propulsion system that is needed to move mass in a vacuum
@singletona082
@singletona082 2 жыл бұрын
I feel they kinda squandered some of the design choices but that's a case of budget and the like more than anything. Still. the Galaxy Class Enterprise really is a grand old girl.
@ibamarcel4577
@ibamarcel4577 2 жыл бұрын
Galaxy class is the best looking ship
@trevormcwilliams7578
@trevormcwilliams7578 2 жыл бұрын
The original is in the Smithsonian and she has always been the most beautiful of ladies. The first glimpse of the 'new' Enterprise in TMP was also incredible.
@michaelkantner6420
@michaelkantner6420 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% about the Enterprise B. I liked how the Excelsior Class of starship looked, but to me it looked like they upgraded everything about it when they made the Enterprise B. It seemed to me that they were trying to streamline the exterior so that it would be able to more easily navigate transwarp.
@mitwhitgaming7722
@mitwhitgaming7722 2 жыл бұрын
The Galaxy Class is my favorite. It perfectly encapsulates the exploration, diplomatic and the defensive facets of Star Fleet.
@DaiKam84
@DaiKam84 2 жыл бұрын
Totally
@tastycheddar7958
@tastycheddar7958 2 жыл бұрын
And I would add the alternate timeline Enterprise D refit with the third nacelle and big fuck-off phaser cannon.
@pjduker05
@pjduker05 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it does that. But only for its time. For that era of Trek it's perfect in every way. He said it in the video. Like a luxurious cruise ship that just happens to have great weapons as a side feature. Like if I had to go to war, then give me the E all day long. But if I'm doing the Enterprise's main mission, seeking out new life and new civilizations, doing that long term deep space exploration kind of work? Yeah I'd much rather have D and have my wife and son on board and have a nice bar kind of place and civilian activities for us to do. You need a break from work and I garuntee E never got any complaints about the lack of comfort on board. Well when the ship wasn't in danger anyway, lol
@steemlenn8797
@steemlenn8797 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjduker05 Yes, If you design a ship for "to boldly go", that's the Galaxy. Not the timid "every step is new" of Archer's ship, but the "we may not know what we will find, but we have a lot of experience with unknown and are well equipped, so let's go" feel.
@pjduker05
@pjduker05 2 жыл бұрын
@@steemlenn8797 100 my friend! And while the Galaxys certainly get a lot of hate for being a "flying 5 star hotel", let's be honest. Is that really something to complain about? I mean unless you're a Klingon I'd think you would want nice soft carpets and luxurious living quarters over metal bulk heads and a nice "clank clank clank" sound everytime you walk across your tiny metal bunk room. How about we ask our modern sailors? What's that? You'd rather be on a Carnival Cruise Ship than a Navy Fleet Tanker? Room service is better than 3 room mates to your section of hallway bunks on that Ohio class submarine? Go figure! Lol Admittedly though, I'd still probably settle with E. The sovereign is still plenty of luxurious enough by any normal standards and if my wife and kid were to be on board with me, then perhaps it would be nice to know the ship can handle anything. And I mean like we don't even worry about a Borg Cube. In fact we all rush to a forward view port to watch the quantum torpedoes be fired. "Wow Daddy look!" "Yes son. Those mechanical monsters are about to have a really bad day."
@TheBabaloga
@TheBabaloga 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to put in a word for the original Constitution design: I won't disagree that the texturing and detailing has aged significantly, but I like the shape of the TOS constitution more than any subsequent enterprise, even subsequent constitutions. The straight nacelle pylons and forward-leaning neck give it this proud, swan-like posture that versions of the design with swept pylons lose. It has a stark simplicity in its shape language that I find compelling. Also the generally thin and spindly nature of it is a big plus for me. It's retroactively evocative of things like the ISS and feels more like a true space exploration vehicle than any of it's successors IMO.
@davfree9732
@davfree9732 2 жыл бұрын
Aye. The original Connie laid the foundation for ship design that, sadly, feels like its becoming standardized to other space shows when Trek pretty much stood out with their bold yet cinematically appealing choice of design. You can take a picture anywhere and it will look good. By comparison you photo the Voyager and your pretty much relegated to above and under shots since the ship has no strong presence along it's flattest plane.
@ericmadsen7470
@ericmadsen7470 2 жыл бұрын
No other design of starship beats the simplicity of the TOS Enterprise. It's sleek and easy on the eyes. I also like the Constitution class refit. Very good and streamlined and is a worthy successor to the TOS Enterprise.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 2 жыл бұрын
The straight nacelle pylons on the TOS Enterprise look like they would snap off the very first time the ship had to make a hard turn.
@forgilageord
@forgilageord 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the straight pylons completely negate the balance and swiftness suggested by the swept forward neck. It comes as something of a visual shock every time I see it, like a sentence that ends too soon. It makes the ship look front heavy, in my opinion.
@mattwho81
@mattwho81 2 жыл бұрын
Enterprise-A was the most beautiful version of all.
@matthewgumabon7498
@matthewgumabon7498 Жыл бұрын
I think what’s really cool about Star Trek is that since it has lasted so many generations, inevitably there will be different eras of fans that entered the franchise through different series and with their respective Enterprises’. Being a younger fan in my mid-20s, I never watched TOS, watched many reruns of TNG, and some reruns of Star Trek Enterprise. But honestly, I really got into Star Trek from 2009 JJ-verse Star Trek and forward. I loved the cinematic, modern look of it, the younger actors, and its version of the first Enterprise is just damn beautiful to me. And since it’s an alternate timeline it doesn’t really step on the work of past series or mess with future canon.
@tbrdmann
@tbrdmann 4 ай бұрын
Best thing about the B was it looked HUGE and real. Most CGI ships look about as real as a $3 bill. Refit/A was beautiful.
@dog3y3
@dog3y3 2 жыл бұрын
NX-01 was my favorite, especially for it's era. it felt like the submarines of WWII with pipes exposed, or un-smooth hallways, equipment sitting out in the middle of hallways, and the engine room felt like an engine room and not a disco or storage bay.
@tsamoka6496
@tsamoka6496 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, a submarine is actually the best design type for a realistic spaceship. They function nearly identically to space craft and the only real differences are the propulsion/maneuvering and how the pressure hull and hatches are designed and reinforced. Space hulls and doors keep pressure in, while sub hulls/doors keep pressure out. Of course, having windows in a spaceship is also a little easier then in a sub! ;) If we ever built real spaceships, the best people to pick as crew and command for them would be submariners. =^x^=
@loganmartin2794
@loganmartin2794 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it really feels like they just went "Well, submarines already have all the stuff we need for a ship, a pressurized hull, bulkheads, reinforcements. Let's just strap engines on it and put it in space. Done." It's also why I liked the ship designs from the Wing Commander movie.
@williamegan6756
@williamegan6756 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the Sovereign-class Enterprise in First Contact, I gasped in awe - it is just such a thing of beauty! At that time I didn’t think anything could replace my love for the Constitution-class refit we got in the movies, but one glorious shot of the Enterprise E in that nebula blew it all away. Deservedly ranked first for me as well, an none of the others even come close.
@singletona082
@singletona082 2 жыл бұрын
Connies are such an iconic design. Fine it has flaws (the disc new worlds connie is REALLY growing on me now that i can SEE the fucking thing. Fuck that blue doom lighting. Just.. FUCK THAT...) but like c'mon... It's the connie.
@hastekulvaati9681
@hastekulvaati9681 2 жыл бұрын
Junkball media has an amazing video about the Sovereign Class. The detail they put into the practical model is mind blowing. The craftsmanship puts the slapped together CGI ships at the end of Picard to shame.
@commanderjaw
@commanderjaw Жыл бұрын
I think this is perhaps the best ranking video I've ever seen. Informative, fair and straight to the point. ^_^
@jakemeyer8188
@jakemeyer8188 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad you typed "starships Enterprise" and not "starship Enterprises". That's already a win for you in my book!
@drksideofthewal
@drksideofthewal 2 жыл бұрын
The Enterprise-E has always been my favorite Enterprise. You can tell just by looking at it that it’s faster, more powerful, and more sophisticated than any Federation ship that came before.
@panicbutton426
@panicbutton426 2 жыл бұрын
Except it wasn't fast at all at first. It was much slower than Defiant or Intrepids in First Contact, but when the Ent-E was in spacedock for repairs (ie Borg cleanup) they took all of the Ent's field mods and the mods they h intended to make and revamped the warp core (the problem was not the engines it was power generation, Sovereign was a nonstop power hog when it was new, Enterprise' crew largely solved the problems at least in theory). After the warp core upgrade it surpassed everything but Prometheus (and tied Defiant at 9.985 emergency warp).
@TonyTylerDraws
@TonyTylerDraws 2 жыл бұрын
The Excelsior feels like a B-52; it’s a good platform that newer tech can be retrofitted on. But it’s never taken out of service because hits all the right notes. Like the Miranda class
@trekker105
@trekker105 2 жыл бұрын
One wonders, then, if there was ever an Old Dog equivalent for the Excelsior.
@RoballTV
@RoballTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@trekker105 Think that's what the Constitution class is meant to be, they directly copy the ship hull formula, they just modernize it. Saucer/neck/secondary hull/pylons/nacelles all in the same places. There won't be a TOS style excelsior cos it was specifically designed from the ground up for the 'great experiment'.
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 2 жыл бұрын
Excelsior >>>>Miranda
@yoshiforpm
@yoshiforpm 2 жыл бұрын
@@trekker105isn’t that basically the Lakota?
@cheguevara7478
@cheguevara7478 2 жыл бұрын
Correct but... The Miranda WORKS?!
@johnwhite9404
@johnwhite9404 2 жыл бұрын
I would say I love the Excelsior Refit and I wish we had seen more of it as a main Character ship
@Salisbury2015
@Salisbury2015 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this list, and agree that the Enterprise B is an improvement on the original Excelsior design. In fact, the only thing I'd change about this list is that I'd move the Enterprise B to number one in my ranking. Glad to see the NX-01 and Sovereign get a lot of love. I think the J was an interesting premise, and suffered from us not getting to see it in a lot of detail. It's massive size as a city ship fascinated me, and I've always wanted to see more of it.
@Sumaire_STi
@Sumaire_STi 2 жыл бұрын
Spacedock - The one thing I would be curious to hear is what your thoughts are on the "All Good Things..." future Enterprise-D, in terms of where it would come on this list. Would it just be roped in with the standard Enterprise-D, or would it actually be in a different place on the list? Otherwise, I think this is a great list and everything makes sense. Rock on, mate.
@Tiglath-Pileser3
@Tiglath-Pileser3 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to ask the same. Old game I played referred to it as the "Galaxy-X" class, but I doubt that is canon.
@Zadkiel862
@Zadkiel862 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it wasn't included because "technically" it never existed. It was from a potential timeline, but never actually existed, while all the other ships technically have. I think he included KTL stuff because those, while being movies, were still fleshed out and existed. The other part of its exclusion arises from the fact that the D is on this list, so the alternate reality version is included in that, although not mentioned. I can see the argument though, that since Kelvin stuff was included, alternate future stuff should be too.
@CicadaAppreciationSociety
@CicadaAppreciationSociety 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it would be pretty low on the list now, but when this episode aired I was 14 and thought it was so cool.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tiglath-Pileser3 The Galaxy X upgrade is canon, just not prime timeline.
@Sumaire_STi
@Sumaire_STi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zadkiel862 To be fair, he also mentioned the NX-class upgrade with the secondary hull, which was never canonized (bloody beautiful it may be--yes, I own the Eaglemoss special edition of it, haha!), and that's what actually got me thinking about the Galaxy-X/upgrade. I figure it would probably be looped in with the regular Galaxy, but some people (like myself) actually like the proportions better with the high-mount third nacelle. I never really cared for the nacelles mounted so much lower than the (gigantic/oversized) saucer, myself, and while I prefer nacelles in even numbers, I feel that the third high-mount nacelle solves the overall proportion issue.
@jamesk370
@jamesk370 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the NX class. Of all the designs, it is the one that most seems like an actual space ship.
@sigbauer9782
@sigbauer9782 2 жыл бұрын
It really does. Nothing gimmicky. Uniforms were practical. No magical device to always save them.
@sigbauer9782
@sigbauer9782 2 жыл бұрын
@Plxsma Edits I think we can agree that ST: E was WAY BETTER than any of the star wars prequels and subsequent movies.
@splat-trainproductions
@splat-trainproductions Жыл бұрын
@@sigbauer9782 I like the Star Wars prequels, it's the sequels(7-9) that I have a problem with.
@granudisimo
@granudisimo Жыл бұрын
Hull polarization is genius because it's how you make technical sense while keeping the "shields up" routine, in a time where the Federation didn't exist and we depended on Vulcan crumbs of developmental leaps. It's just an electromagnetic infusion that strengthens the atomic and molecular bonds of hull alloys, and it makes sense to become one of the many built in safety systems in the future, that operate with shields, deflector array shenanigans, and countless other protective redundancies to be expected from over engineering Starfleet.
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the B was goofy looking. My favorite is the Enterprise E. The Enterprise B was just too damn FAT at the bottom around the deflector dish.
@casbot71
@casbot71 2 жыл бұрын
Making the Sovereign class so lean and manoeuvrable really fitted with the Starfleet ethos and played to the strength of its personnel. It doesn't win by being a tank that sits and trades blows in a slugfest till the other side crumbles, it is designed for a smart innovative quick thinking Captain and crew to beat the opposition by tactical skill and strategic manoeuvring … it's meant for a dynamic style of combat.
@keithasaur0
@keithasaur0 2 жыл бұрын
NX-01 is my personal favorite. I also loved the whole aesthetic and feel of the show, which extends to the ship design. Since it was smaller and more lived in, I developed a personal connection to many of its areas, such as the mess hall and bridge.
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how we even got to know about some of the crew, it made times when they killed a named background character like Crewman Fuller actually mean something.
@deadmilkman121
@deadmilkman121 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man the battle zone 2 music at the beginning is so unbelievably nostalgic to me. Thanks for that.
@PM-fh2sp
@PM-fh2sp 2 жыл бұрын
NX-01 (refit) has to be my favourite even though it never got canonised. It's such a good design iteration on the NX-01 which already is my favourite canon enterprise. The NASA vibe to it as well as the whole Enterprise show creates an atmosphere that not only is this a future that is bright and hopeful, but one we can recognise, you can believe that this will be our near future.
@dog3y3
@dog3y3 Жыл бұрын
I Believe it is cannon since it's appeared in the movies. Not only in First Contact but I believe it appears on the Admirals Shelf of models in Star Trek Into Darkness. I'll have to double check that.
@ZedanB
@ZedanB 2 жыл бұрын
Personally my favorite will always be NX-01 Enterprise, because of the realistic (as much as possible) design, as it's similar to something we could make some time in the near future.
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 2 жыл бұрын
My only question is how did they get Ericsson's wheelchair everywhere if they had those hatches in the doorways? I'm guessing they didn't have them everywhere? I loved the uniforms better in "STE" than in "TOS". My brother served in the US Navy in the early-mid '70s and served on an Enterprise. I have a patch from a shirt of his and went aboard a ship he served on: the USS Savannah: AOR-4 in '70. I wish there was a starship by that name in "Star Trek".
@solidoperative
@solidoperative 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Enterprise D's interior. It just seems to safe, calming and comfortable.
@bigwig2881
@bigwig2881 2 жыл бұрын
Enterprise C is my favorite. I just thought that it looked so well-proportioned. I didn't love Enterprise D because I always thought the saucer section was oversized, I will admit that it did grow on me but when I saw Yesterday's Enterprise I realized that I had found my ship.
@Parabueto
@Parabueto Жыл бұрын
A year on, I find my Favourite Enterprise has changed from the B to the D. Just the whole concept of a slice of the Federation on tour and the general lines of the ship have just grown on me, massively.
@Restilia_ch
@Restilia_ch 2 жыл бұрын
TMP Constitution Refit is by far my favorite. Took the TOS design which was very 1960s and made it universal in age.
@toddwalker4301
@toddwalker4301 2 жыл бұрын
Dang right! 🤟
@kuribayashi84
@kuribayashi84 2 жыл бұрын
For me its basically a head-to-head between the refit-Connie from Movies I to VI and the Enterprise-E.
@Blechfuchs
@Blechfuchs 2 жыл бұрын
Movies version sure has the sexier waist. Goes perfectly along with bell-bottoms uniforms 😎
@ericfleming5522
@ericfleming5522 2 жыл бұрын
This is the correct opinion.
@killstefani
@killstefani 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree.
@andrewh7868
@andrewh7868 Жыл бұрын
My theory on the J is that Daniels didn't actually show Archer the real ship. Showing Archer, a very smart captain with a strong background in ship design and future big cheese in Starfleet, a distant-future ship, even just the outside, would have been revealing a lot of disruptive information. So, he was either shown an obscured version or an intentionally absurd one that would make him realize later that Daniels was never going to actually reveal that kind of information to him.
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 2 жыл бұрын
My brother served on an Enterprise. He was in the US Navy during the '70s and gave me a patch from his arm sleeve. He also served on the Lafferty and the USS Savannah AOR-4. It's retired forever and there's a new Savannah ship.
@ItsNanino
@ItsNanino 2 жыл бұрын
I think tbh the Enterprise-E is one of the most beautiful starships in media period.
@gaffawebber
@gaffawebber 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. That and Voyager.
@mattp1337
@mattp1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaffawebber Voyager's only mis-step was those articulated nacelle pylons. IIRC, it wasn't the first design to blend the saucer and engineering hulls, but it bent the rules of Federation design and paved the way for the Sovereign and so many other great designs.
@gaffawebber
@gaffawebber 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattp1337 - I quite like the pylons, tbh. The ship would look better with them up always, but as a plot device they were an interesting feature.
@NLVDragon2054
@NLVDragon2054 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed thrice over! NCC-1701-E
@Magnus4096
@Magnus4096 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattp1337 I don't think the articulation is the problem, rather that the nacelles on Voyager are just too damn tiny! They look like little chicken wings! E-Dubs on the other hand has some damn sexy nacelles...
@Tyr666Thor
@Tyr666Thor 2 жыл бұрын
I think STO really made the Universe class work much better. Mainly by making it massive so the bits that look silly shrunk and stretched actually work. Also by having more 31st century ships along side with it that make it feel more cohisive and part of a fleet. I do love the 32nd century ships (most of them at least) as well though.
@choalithikanthe2422
@choalithikanthe2422 2 жыл бұрын
100% Agree, When the Universe was first revealed, I /despised/ it. But then, after randomly actually getting one, I decided to poke around in it a bit, and it dawned on me what they actually wanted. This is Star Trek's answer to a Star Destroyer. You're not supposed to look at the whole thing at once, or it's just a thing. But when it dominates the screen, when you let it swoop by or loom above you, or creep into frame, the dramatic effect is jaw-dropping. Those spindley parts are thicker than some entire ships are, and the grace and presence it exemplifies traveling alongside a fleet of smaller ships, it truly gives a sense of a time in which space is no longer just a frontier. This is the Federation's Nimitz, and now, shockingly, one of my favorites.
@TSEDLE333
@TSEDLE333 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed...it took me years to get a universe class...and I have a hard time not playing it all the time (well, when I could play, since the EV suit slot update, a bug has been crashing me out of the game in the character selection...2 weeks without loging in...oh well...forced vacation it is...). if it wasn't for the KTL Vengeance Intel Dreadnaught I wouldn't play another ship....and I do go back to my Odysseys every few weeks and/or events....
@Tuskin38
@Tuskin38 2 жыл бұрын
The Size of the Universe in STO is the size given to it by the original designer, they didn't make up.
@littletimelord2755
@littletimelord2755 2 жыл бұрын
Excelsior refit is amazing. I genuinely love it more than the original, so you’re not alone in that.
@Devalinor
@Devalinor Жыл бұрын
I love that you use the Battlezone 2 main menu music for your intro. Oh and the ingame music for your outro.
@popeofsimps2924
@popeofsimps2924 2 жыл бұрын
I would say it’s a tie for number one between the NX-01 (just feels very realistic and practical as a ship) and the DSC Enterprise (takes what made the TOS enterprise great and makes its damn near perfection)
@thomgizziz
@thomgizziz Жыл бұрын
Practical? You understand that the shape of the ship doesnt matter in space. Practical would be a brick shape... how is everybody so bad at thinking?
@James-rm7sr
@James-rm7sr 2 жыл бұрын
I still love the Original Refit design. 1701-A just always made me smile as a child. I cried when the blew up the Enterprise. My mom asked my dad what happened when we returned home.
@nghtlfe
@nghtlfe 2 жыл бұрын
Big ups for putting the NX-01 so high on the list! I think your #1 choice is accurate. When they brought out Voyager is was a real "aha" moment I think for ST ship design and the Ent-E cribs the best parts of Voyagers design and runs with them. Also I'm in love with the visual reboot of the Disco Constitution class! The bridge looks amazing and the ship itself looks so well updated, like they learned from the Kelvin-verse missteps.
@PennsyPappas
@PennsyPappas 2 жыл бұрын
The Sovereign will always be probably my number one favorite ship but I fell in love with the Ambassador Class ship for really the very reasons you pointed out. Ive imagined myself as this StarFleet officer serving aboard one of these ships in the mid to late 24th century during that era of peace that we didn't get to see a whole lot on. Those are definitely my favorite. I also like how the NX-01 got love because to me this is a representation of what our own Earth space ships would be like. Just fast enough to do space travel using real life engines and real life technology, with a fairly small crew compared to later shows. This one was definitely more grounded in our own reality than other starships. That isn't to say the other shows didn't have real life tech but Enterprise definitely has as you say that NASA feel to it. Obviously the putting the TOS Enterprise low on the list will get you a lot of flak but I do see your point, and being first doesn't make you the best it just makes you first and the fact you put the Discovery Enterprise on there to me is just basically saying that yeah the Constitution class is still top dog in Star Trek but you're going with this updated refresh look to it like this is what it was meant to look like but models of the 60s just couldn't do it. Overall pretty good list I'd say, obviously everyone has their own list that will never satisfy everyone.
@jaywalkersunite
@jaywalkersunite 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the NX that high on the list. Both it and ENT have aged like a fine wine.
@csehszlovakze
@csehszlovakze 2 жыл бұрын
it was the peak of TV and movie CGI. sadly everything was Marvelized afterwards...
@TheAngryAstronaut
@TheAngryAstronaut Жыл бұрын
Yup. You were right. You alienated half of your viewers. In other words, real Star Trek fans.
@nicholasmorsovillo2752
@nicholasmorsovillo2752 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw Star Trek The Next Generation I too was in complete shock and awe at the size of the Galaxy Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D I mean damn I didn't think Starfleet could build a ship that large and being the first Enterprise with a Klingon onboard along with an Android second officer to a blind Chief Engineer to having an incredibly smart teenager sitting at the helm for the first 3 seasons and halfway through season 4 till he left for the Academy and one other thing I can still never get over was the fact it had a bar onboard at the very front of the saucer section.
@decayingsun5798
@decayingsun5798 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video in this format for Halo ships. Or ship classes?
@MichaelMonroe88
@MichaelMonroe88 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Enterprise-B and I, too, thought I was alone in that opinion! It was so nice to see her get the respect she deserves. I always liked the flared secondary hull and the extra impulse module. (I love the Disco Enterprise as well!)
@bitharne
@bitharne 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the back-top of the saucer. Such a nice arrangement of greeblies
@taramichelle2972
@taramichelle2972 2 жыл бұрын
Personally my favorite is the Refit Constitution version, it just looks gorgeous it will always be the best. 2nd place goes to the Discovery Enterprise, it’s a beauty as Kayla Detmer said. 3rd is the Sovereign class it looks like a good warship.
@JustinStrife
@JustinStrife Жыл бұрын
I agree with this list. The Odyssey Class Enterprise is growing on me and might move into 4th for me.
@otterlyfantasticbeasts5649
@otterlyfantasticbeasts5649 2 жыл бұрын
My mother who’s been watching Star Trek since ‘66 just lit up when the Enterprise showed up in Discovery.
@DaloKnight
@DaloKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad we didn't get to see the Enterprise D Refit on this list. Admiral Rikers flagship from All good things. The Galaxy Dreadnought I believe its class ranking is officially called.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 2 жыл бұрын
I'm conflicted on that one. I remember watching those the first time and full on squeeing that they actually did the dreadnought. And it's still cool, but now that I have some distance, it seems like they were trying too hard w it. A lot of the modifications look tacked on and didn't work with the asthetic at all.
@montithered4741
@montithered4741 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the aesthetic of the D-Refit. Very much star fleet shipyards bolting on newer technology to older ships. Just like how the B-52 and C-130 aircraft are continually getting new stuff added. Plus, I think the D-Refit is a sign of Riker’s hubris and reluctance to part with the Enterprise-D; like an old beat up classic car which the owner continues to put money into despite newer models existing.
@BossRedRanger
@BossRedRanger 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that ship. 3 nacelle designs always look dumb. It looked cheap
@ps36081
@ps36081 2 жыл бұрын
The Enterprise A from ST6 was my favourite ship and really got me into Star Trek. It could have been the Constitution Class refit from ST2. Next for me was the Enterprise D
@singletona082
@singletona082 2 жыл бұрын
D has its flaws but.... c'mon it's the star trek series i grew up with.
@edschultheis6767
@edschultheis6767 5 ай бұрын
Can we just take a moment to talk about the newspaper article at 8:09. "LeVar Burton - The New Spock." No name or anything. That's some stellar journalism right there.
@drtaverner
@drtaverner 10 ай бұрын
The TOS colourful interior was to take advantage of the new Colour Broadcasting technology while still having enough contrast that you could watch it on a Black and White television. I was a kid in the middle of that transition, with both B&W and Colour TVs existing (the old B&W usually banished to the basement for the kids to watch while the shiny new Colour dominated the family room). It's an interesting artifact of making the B&W watchable while making the Colour TV audience go "WOW!"
@jamesalder8628
@jamesalder8628 2 жыл бұрын
Enterprise-B needs so so so much more love. I'd love to see adventures about the ship and crew. I read a couple of the Lost Era books back in the day but it's not the same as actually seeing it fly.
@Gentleman...Driver
@Gentleman...Driver 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hope we get a series on the B. But I do hope they do it more the traditional way, with an actual studio model, and better, more polished CGI effects. The effects on DISC and Picard are hideous for today standards. And even Voyager had better CGI effects then todays shows (but not as much of them). And I would hope that the characters of the show are more fleshed out, with an actual background story).
@JustinStrife
@JustinStrife 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people like the look of the B. The whole thing just looks bloated and just plain weird.
@Gentleman...Driver
@Gentleman...Driver 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustinStrife It reminds me of the anti torpedo bulges of old warships. They were also retrofitted on those vessels. I like the idea of an upgraded Excelsior Class ship. And it doesnt look too bad to my eye. Also the designers stated that at the time they wanted it to look more Japanese, since Japanese stuff was the latest shit in the 1970s and 1980s in the US. Every hightech article came from Japan. So they went for that look. Its the same story with Darth Vaders helmet by the way, which looks like that of a Samurai.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Enterprise was the Galaxy X version shown in the final episode "All good things". There was just something bad-ass about that version of the Galaxy, like it was tired of getting it's butt kicked, and ready for payback.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 2 жыл бұрын
Admiral Riker's decision to refit it comes down to "I need a really big gun. Also cloak because that Treaty of Algeron was stupid."
@brianwesley28
@brianwesley28 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Galaxy X refit, Sovereign, Galaxy, Excelsior refit... Galaxy X. It would only be improved with the removal of the third necelle and inclusion of a sensor pod, weapons pod, or tactical pod, then adding two smaller streamlined nacelles below the pod of choice, like blended into the neck of the pod, to retain the higher warp speed capabilities of the third warp nacelle addition. Galaxy X for sure.
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. That was a much better look for the galaxy class. They need to keep the galaxy x look, take out the needles yoga rooms and turn it into an overgrown steam-runner by upgrading the plate armor and adding more weapons. That would make a ship you could take to fight and kick a dominion battleships butt but the UFP is all about feeling even if it gets them almost overran and cost millions of lives.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 2 жыл бұрын
@@neganrex5693 Trillions, considering it consists of 150 member states.
@neganrex5693
@neganrex5693 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonknightleader1 I would say your numbers are way more closer than mine in lives lost because of them fools in star fleet and UFP. On the cloaking system you made a comment about, Picard on that one EP should have pocketed that and told the crew to keep their mouths shut and it may save their lives again like it did on the show. It's a good thing to have if they are going to keep boldly trespassing in others space where they never trespassed before. They need to stop doing that because it seems to get them in more fights than anything else.
@paulmoore6345
@paulmoore6345 Жыл бұрын
Agree about the Excelsior class refit. And you are right about the Enterprise E
@andrewporter852
@andrewporter852 2 жыл бұрын
I really did not want to agree with you, but you had me with the Excelsior class (and the Sovereign). Well done.
@pyronuke4768
@pyronuke4768 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Enterprise would be the NCC-1701-F from Star Trek: Online. I love how it combines the sleek sexiness of the -E with the organic curves of the -D, and unlike the -J looks like a plausible evolution to the Enterprise lineup. My favorite cannon Enterprise is the -E, followed closely by the -A.
@Kakarott03512
@Kakarott03512 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I dislike about the F is the bridge. It's to big. If you're in a combat situation and something happens to the tactical officer there's no way to quickly get to that station from any other station. I guess you could just reroute the controls to your station but still. It's just unnecessarily huge.
@DreadWulf221
@DreadWulf221 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the F is the absolute best in my opinion, but if we're only talking non sto then the E takes it hands down
@varthelm
@varthelm 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kakarott03512 I like the bridge that came with the original Anniversary ship.
@Kakarott03512
@Kakarott03512 2 жыл бұрын
@@varthelm the one that looks like a upgraded version of the D? That one was a little big too, but it looking like the D makes me like it more.
@godzillakaijuboy
@godzillakaijuboy 2 жыл бұрын
I dislike the hole in between the neck, but it looks great otherwise
@therealshadow99
@therealshadow99 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I always felt the Sovereign was the Excelsior done right. They have some strong similarity with a much more developed secondary hull and slimmer nacelles. It's still my favorite Enterprise and deserved to be alongside some of my other favorite vessels. Though of TOS 'inspired' designs... I'm torn between the KTL A redesign and the Discovery era... Both have a lot of points in common as well. The big thing I really appreciate is a thought to the weapons that didn't really go into the original series, such as turrets.
@wrockage
@wrockage 2 жыл бұрын
great commentary, thanks for sharing!
@raghknarrscott1790
@raghknarrscott1790 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a deep dive into the USS Vengeance. It is my favorite ship profile and many other people agree !
@IRJOE5
@IRJOE5 2 жыл бұрын
My first love is the the A.. It was the first enterprise I ever saw and got me hook on the series. As for the B I do love the design, all the additions have a purpose and give that "I'm bigger and faster" look. The additional impulse engines give me that late 80's early 90's wide body race car feel
@jamesgates5375
@jamesgates5375 2 жыл бұрын
Enterprise-A (original not Kelvin) will always be the best and most iconic design. Also...my first Enterprise too!
@Viggenpower
@Viggenpower 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Enterprise B is a better design than the original Excelsior class. I often thought if I was a captain, I would definitely prefer the Enterprise B design as my ship.
@joeallen7981
@joeallen7981 7 ай бұрын
My favorite Enterprise is Admiral Riker's souped-up enterprise from "All Good Things". The third nacelle and the huge phaser cannon on the ventral side of the saucer section! Man I "squeed" when that thing fired off. AND souping-up the Enterprise D is such a William Riker thing to do. "No I don't want a new fancy state of the art ship, I want to buff the classic hot rod that I couldn't part with to the point where I passed up several promotions over the years"
2 жыл бұрын
I can never get over the tooth picks connecting the, I guess secondary hull and the warp nacelles. :D
@mjteichman
@mjteichman 2 жыл бұрын
Judging by that title, I see that you've chosen to start fights today.
@Tzryylon5
@Tzryylon5 2 жыл бұрын
In the same design vein as the Enterprise B, I absolutely LOVED the "Sovereign-ified" Obena class ship from season 2's finale on Lower Decks!
@CAD_GEEK
@CAD_GEEK 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the Excelsior and absolutely fell in love with the Enterprise B and its Excelsior class refit design . That being said the Enterprise E is definitely my favorite.
@captainsilentshadow9182
@captainsilentshadow9182 2 жыл бұрын
I never was much of a star trek fan until the enterprise series, so I'm glad to see my favorite version of the ship rank in the top 5
@leevaughan1990
@leevaughan1990 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode. About the TOS Enterprise, I've read that its lack of detail was partly a design decision by Jeffries, who felt you would want to surround the ship's components in a shell so you wouldn't have to go outside to work on anything. Interestingly, due to stealth concerns, modern frigates and destroyers are increasingly enclosed in featureless shells lacking in surface detail.
@irregularassassin6380
@irregularassassin6380 2 жыл бұрын
We see working on the hull pose a huge problem twice in Enterprise. First, unavoidably, in the Romulan minefield. Second towards the end of the third season when Malcolm and Trip head out to stop a massive plasma fire. That time they had to remove two hull plates to turn two valves to stop the plasma flow. Granted the ship was horrifically damaged, but you can see how engineers would have learned lessons from that. Malcolm almost died from heat exhaustion.
@ctmmckinney6219
@ctmmckinney6219 2 жыл бұрын
Its detail was appropriate for the television resolution of the time. Judging it in its HD remaster is unfair.
@TheGameGetterKuzuri
@TheGameGetterKuzuri 2 жыл бұрын
The big D is my favorite but the NX-01 really grew on me. just watching the show really made me love it. The BIG and powerful E is my contender against the NX. The E was a perfect mix of warship-like Defiant kind of starship and the exploration of the Galaxy.
@cdanielh128
@cdanielh128 2 жыл бұрын
well done! I stopped watching the latest shows so did not see the new model of the Constitution. I have to agree with exactly what you said. Its a beautiful ship and lots of detail the couple of glimpses without all the "Blue Hue of Doom" but knew the heat would head that way for messing with it. It seems to fit the time so well. Now I want to go look it up more. And yes, number 1 is your pick. Very thoughtful overall. Again well done!
@xpgx1
@xpgx1 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I really enjoy your open, no holds barred approach to talk about what has happened during the last 5 years with Trek. Thx for this =) And absolutely, _the Enterprise-E is truly where it belongs on this list._
@jeremys5274
@jeremys5274 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you about the Excelsior refix; I love that design. My Fav is Consistution - 1701-A, which you didn't mention at all :(
@trumpetporvida
@trumpetporvida 2 жыл бұрын
Other than a bit of a color update, the 1701 refit and the A are externally the same ship. I personally would lump them together in a comparison such as this.
@Its-Just-Zip
@Its-Just-Zip 2 жыл бұрын
My rose tinted goggles are just solid red plastic. TOS enterprise deserves at least middle of the stack.
@Mikerille
@Mikerille 12 күн бұрын
Real talk imo the nx-01 enterprise is by FAR the coolest, I also do like the enterprise J…but mainly cause I use it on my meme build in Star Trek online, and find it funny to have made a full turret build doing 240k dps
@TenchiJeff
@TenchiJeff 2 жыл бұрын
What I loved about the NX Enterprise, humanity gave their all in this ship, and once they got into space, there's the realization that this ship is totally outclassed in almost every way by almost every other ship. Humanity worked so hard making a slow, underpowered, underarmed ship. But it's Captain and crew made up for the ships shortcomings, and it did get upgrades over the years. It would have been lovely to see the fully Refit version in action, but there's Star Trek Online for that.
@ExcelsiorsDomain
@ExcelsiorsDomain 2 жыл бұрын
I re-evaluated the Enterprise B when I got its Eaglemoss model and reviewed it because my initial reaction was always one of shortcut kit bash, but it does have a major impulse engine shift from the standard Excelsior and not just the flare around the deflector dish which did make me appreciate it more. The Enterprise C also really grew on me and its Eaglemoss XL version is HUGE! The sad irony is that we see so little of both of those ships on screen...
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 2 жыл бұрын
I always preferred the alternate future Enterprise with the three nacelle. Sad to see it didn't make the list
@oquocharlz
@oquocharlz 2 жыл бұрын
I've got pictures of the TNG Galaxy Class Enterprise bridge and engineering sets from when there was a Star Trek exhibition in London, UK. Also saw the NX Class Engineering set and the TOS bridge, which was taped off because of how delicate it had become. As well as a whole load of costumes.
@liamscienceguy8153
@liamscienceguy8153 Жыл бұрын
I too love the Excelsior refit. Good video!
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