Ranking Goaltending Tandems Ahead of the 2024-25 Season

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@bradgerthoffer2803
@bradgerthoffer2803 4 ай бұрын
"If you're gonna say that I'm doing the video this way to get the new UTAH magent on the board........ oh I don't have an answer to that" LMAO your comedy is always so good Shannon!
@quag311
@quag311 4 ай бұрын
Excellent comedic timing. One could even say majestic.
@Kevinmac1120
@Kevinmac1120 4 ай бұрын
Isles burned Sorokin out last season. Their defense was beyond atrocious and they kept leaning on him so much until he was burned out. Combined with Varlamov's injury, and Lambert fighting to keep his job, they started him like 14 games in a row in the middle of the season while giving him no defensive support. By the time their defense got in order under Roy it was too late and he was burned out, it was easy to see. But he's been a great goalie his entire life, including the NHL for years, so I agree that I'm not worried about him. Incredibly talented goaltender.
@BleachCowboy2016
@BleachCowboy2016 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know what it is about Varlamov, but I feel confident every time he gets the start. I think it’s the way he plays, he’s just more composed. Doesn’t move around too much like Sorokin does.
@TheScotian82
@TheScotian82 4 ай бұрын
Man I remember when goalies used to get out there for like 70 games. Now they play half the season and its "oh theyre so tired/overworked" or they get injured.
@Kevinmac1120
@Kevinmac1120 4 ай бұрын
@@TheScotian82 goalies back in the day were also playing a completely different sport than they do today. They just relied and being quick and 90% of them wouldn't even go down. It's a much, much more physically and mentally demanding position today than it used to be. Things change
@user-ks5hu6sx8p
@user-ks5hu6sx8p 4 ай бұрын
What is this even based off of, other than the workload bit? Sorokin was subpar on about every single metric last year. The team looked better with varlamov and the stats back that up. Sure workload could’ve had a slight effect, but he wasn’t his normal self from start to finish last year
@beneasler8868
@beneasler8868 4 ай бұрын
@@Kevinmac1120 The goalies that played 70+ games were all masters of the butterfly style so I'm really not sure what you're talking about. Broduer, Luongo, Roy, Fleury, etc did not stand up the whole game.
@endertamer3273
@endertamer3273 4 ай бұрын
luukkonen is so underrated, "good second half" doesn't cover the half of it, he was the best goalie in the league for two months straight last season and is the only reason buffalo wasn't bottom of the division
@Tickleyourpickle420
@Tickleyourpickle420 4 ай бұрын
He had an .898 save % in March. He was not the best goalie in the league during that period
@Pmike404
@Pmike404 4 ай бұрын
@@endertamer3273 I completely agree UPL was one of the few players that actually showed up last year. He should’ve started the season in net too there was no reason that Levi and Comms should’ve played in net that long. Personally I think Levi is overrated. I’m sure he’ll grow and become a good goalie but I just don’t get why so many people hate on UPL but love Levi.
@kale_ski2248
@kale_ski2248 4 ай бұрын
@@endertamer3273 my mind is blown that the Sabres are that low
@GG-ng6zm
@GG-ng6zm 4 ай бұрын
@@kale_ski2248 2 months of being a good goalie doesnt warrant you at the top. Buffalo always burns out.
@icecoldpolitics8890
@icecoldpolitics8890 4 ай бұрын
Bruh I’m having flashbacks to the Gus Bus all over again.
@lrba5524
@lrba5524 4 ай бұрын
remember when Merzlikins and Korpisalo were one of the best tandems in the league?
@maxrates
@maxrates 4 ай бұрын
Turns out they never were. It was just the Tortorella defensive system that made thwm look good
@VompoVompatti
@VompoVompatti 4 ай бұрын
List idea: How teams have spent their cap space between offence, defence and goaltending. It would be interesting to see what kind of trends can be found.
@ztobro
@ztobro 4 ай бұрын
Philadelphia at home at 32🥲 Errson looked SO good as a backup before the Hart situation last season. Dude has a good future I just hope we don’t burn him out too quick being a starter.
@Alistor76
@Alistor76 4 ай бұрын
Logan Thompson requested a trade. He wanted to go to a team where he had a legitimate chance of being a starter. Vegas would probably have kept him otherwise, but as long as Hill is on the team, he'd always be the go-to guy over Thompson.
@QueensNewYorkguy
@QueensNewYorkguy 4 ай бұрын
That maybe is how our half the time incompetent GM Tom Fitzgerald may have messed up, we should’ve got him and shipped off Allen cause we’re set for goaltending for a long time now but we’ll see!
@TheScotian82
@TheScotian82 4 ай бұрын
Im not sure how he didnt know that. Im pretty sure he does. Maybe just forgot.
@puckfittsburgh5539
@puckfittsburgh5539 4 ай бұрын
I honestly did not hear about him requesting a trade.
@Mhoward1507
@Mhoward1507 4 ай бұрын
You can argue he is in a tougher situation if Lindgren holds at his level of play
@heath2483
@heath2483 4 ай бұрын
@@Mhoward1507 I think you'll see the Caps give them equal starting opportunities until one of them stumbles, or until one is clearly better than the other. It is going to be a really fun season in Washington. The team has zero pressure on them and plenty of interesting new players and story lines
@wyldrice
@wyldrice 4 ай бұрын
calling your board a free agent is wild
@landons2624
@landons2624 4 ай бұрын
I'm considering signing it, this off season.
@wyldrice
@wyldrice 4 ай бұрын
@@landons2624 that’s a good idea, I think he can have a breakout season from a change of scenery
@Killthesefears
@Killthesefears 4 ай бұрын
Hilarious
@Fenrisulv987-nl8kh
@Fenrisulv987-nl8kh 4 ай бұрын
I thought that was f..kin tremendous too lollllll
@AMan_629
@AMan_629 4 ай бұрын
A lot of people forgot who Varly was since sorokin took the starting job. The last time semy was the full time starter, he was a vezna finalist who led the league in shutouts, sv% and was 2nd in GAA. He didn’t become a backup bc he wasn’t good enough to start, Ilya was just that good. This tandem with Roy at the helm will be electric. If anyone knows how to work with great goalies, it’s the goat himself.
@skiinggator
@skiinggator 4 ай бұрын
@@AMan_629 🤞🤞
@cjnelson669
@cjnelson669 4 ай бұрын
I find Minnesota and Detroits situations to be interesting with having 3 solid starters arguably. Talbot, Husso, Lyon and Fleury, Gus, Wallstedt all have a veterans, people who are in their prime and young prospects who are highly touted should be very interesting to see who they choose or who rises to the occasion.
@speedybure
@speedybure 4 ай бұрын
Det's goalies aren't good, Minn's are. Det needs to start giving time to Augustine and Cossa, at least get them in some games this season.
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 4 ай бұрын
​@@speedybureaugustine isn't even signed yet lol. He is only 19 btw. Cossa might play a couple of games but he is still young too.
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 4 ай бұрын
​@@speedyburealso talbot is better than fleury and lyon is equal to gustavsson lol.
@cjnelson669
@cjnelson669 4 ай бұрын
@@JarradBruessel32 Talbot>Fleury Husso
@cjnelson669
@cjnelson669 4 ай бұрын
@@speedybure I think Husso and Lyon is actually good. I just think yall need better a defensive core. Petry, Holl, Chariot ain’t gonna cut. Hopefully Edvinsson plays out well for yall then u guys could be real contenders.
@CastisV
@CastisV 4 ай бұрын
Binnington really played well last year, and i think a big part of it was he just focused on his game. Didnt do much to rile up the other team and limited the distractions. Hoping he can keep that up and be a top goalie again!
@lornemilton8875
@lornemilton8875 4 ай бұрын
As a Flames fan, im SO happy to have them rebuilding for the next 3+ years. There is absolutely ZERO expectations of them. Its a relief.
@TheScotian82
@TheScotian82 4 ай бұрын
Yea no kidding eh..High time to deflate.
@speedybure
@speedybure 4 ай бұрын
Rebuild is gonna be longer than that.
@MistValleyGaming
@MistValleyGaming 4 ай бұрын
As an Oilers fan, i look forward to the Flames being relevant again, hopefully soon, so we can have some nice battles on the ice. And here is hoping the fans of the two organizations can learn to interact with each other without all the idiocy and name-calling that the internet brings out.
@lornemilton8875
@lornemilton8875 4 ай бұрын
@@MistValleyGaming I love your attitude
@jacobholloway3044
@jacobholloway3044 4 ай бұрын
Thompson requested the trade out of vegas. They didnt just move him for no reason
@mustinclude3to25
@mustinclude3to25 4 ай бұрын
27th for the sabres is roughhhh imo UPL will be playing most of the games this year for the sabres, and hes been fantastic
@FeelingPeculiar
@FeelingPeculiar 4 ай бұрын
What a joke at 27!!!
@Warshipgamers
@Warshipgamers 4 ай бұрын
Yh that's why the video is about tandems
@jeremyschep3589
@jeremyschep3589 4 ай бұрын
I really hope he delivers consistently. I actually like the idea of a decent veteran as a backup. Hopefully they make the difference and finally get us over the bump
@mustinclude3to25
@mustinclude3to25 4 ай бұрын
@@Warshipgamers Levi/Reimer (whoever it will be) are gonna be fine, not the greatest or anything, but fine as backup. Still makes buffalo being 27 absolutely ridiculous
@Warshipgamers
@Warshipgamers 4 ай бұрын
@@mustinclude3to25 Yh so that’s the point that’s why they’re 27, it’s not individually
@bdonaghu
@bdonaghu 4 ай бұрын
I know this is an opinion from THG, but still mind boggling how Buffalo is so low, when UPL was arguably a top-5 goalie last season and had the best numbers in the entire league post all-star break, and Levi was borderline AHL All-star, and should be a solid backup this season if he's in Buffalo.
@icecoldpolitics8890
@icecoldpolitics8890 4 ай бұрын
Because goalies have amazing seasons all the time and then disappear the next year. Gus Bus nedelkovic Blackwood All three looked like star goalies of the future all three of them fell to earth and had to or now have to rebuild their reputations.
@thekreal8703
@thekreal8703 4 ай бұрын
When the Levi breaks you'll have no place to stay
@Boredhockeytime1776
@Boredhockeytime1776 4 ай бұрын
Levi was actively bad in the AHL, and UPL was only good in for a couple month span, you can’t really have them higher based on that you can’t just base it on a 2 month period for one guy and Levi being in the AHL. We can’t ignore how bad he was in the nhl
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 Ай бұрын
Lmfao
@jessiegandhi4340
@jessiegandhi4340 4 ай бұрын
Sharks having Blackwood/Vanecek tandem is funny coming from a Devils fan lol
@speedybure
@speedybure 4 ай бұрын
Vanacek Blows, they should play a goalie from their pipeline over Vanacek as #1B. Sharks are gonna get another top 3 pick again and Vanacek won't be with the team past this season, give some of the young goalies some experience.
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 4 ай бұрын
@@speedybure Chrona is terrible though.
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 4 ай бұрын
Good luck to Timo and Dillon on NJ.
@samuelbrands2679
@samuelbrands2679 4 ай бұрын
I love this format of the ranking shannon
@patch8376
@patch8376 4 ай бұрын
My hockey fanfare wavers over time for a variety of reasons, but you're always a steady, reliable hockey voice to come back to whenever I'm back on it and I love that.
@kolasillers7776
@kolasillers7776 4 ай бұрын
I would put Sabres bit higher. Around 20.
@speedybure
@speedybure 4 ай бұрын
They could be in the top 10 this season, UPL came into his own in the 2H of the season and Levi is gonna be a stud, but when does he have his breakout season. BUFF's D is improved, could be year they make the playoffs.
@tonybleau6219
@tonybleau6219 4 ай бұрын
More like 15-17 imo. UPL is really good.
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 Ай бұрын
​@@tonybleau6219lol
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 Ай бұрын
​@@speedyburelol
@sebastiencarrieres8825
@sebastiencarrieres8825 4 ай бұрын
Finally a video that will generate consensus and absolutely no debate! ...He placed my team where?!? 😂
@mbertrand
@mbertrand 4 ай бұрын
Nice to see the Ducks out of the bottom row for a change. Great insight on the rest of the league! Hard to keep track of how many goalies changed teams!
@DarrenTorpey
@DarrenTorpey 3 ай бұрын
I loved this! We don't hear enough about the goalies IMO
@N1NJ4P1R4T3
@N1NJ4P1R4T3 4 ай бұрын
Hard agree with the the Flyers at 32. A lot is riding on Fedotov to get it figured out in the offseason. Ersson was looking good, but he seems like he'll get better with more experience. The offseason might be a good break for him, since he was played so much after the Hart debacle. Some rest and some time to refocus might really solidify his game.
@MrFlyersFreak
@MrFlyersFreak 4 ай бұрын
32 is criminal. If sam isn't overplayed his numbers are great, Fedotov will figure it out no question. He's 27, he's mature and quick for someone that fookin big. Defense will also play a part in this but that remains to be seen as well. I'd have them around 26 or 27 at least. Last is CRIMINAL
@dtrain9911
@dtrain9911 4 ай бұрын
@@MrFlyersFreak last seems fair when we really haven’t seen enough out of either them to be the a starter
@ztobro
@ztobro 4 ай бұрын
Definitely a little low but I get Shannon’s ranking. If Errson puts it together and turns himself in a starter - great! If Fedotov settles in and becomes a solid backup - great! If neither of those things happen… uh oh.
@DanielNYR
@DanielNYR 4 ай бұрын
New York Hockey, including New Jersey, is going to be very exciting!
@dtmuffinman
@dtmuffinman 4 ай бұрын
As a Panthers fan, in case anyone (Leafs fans or otherwise) wants to argue about Stolarz because of the numbers he put up this year. I would say that, while he was awesome and very well COULD be that good, it's worth looking at the teams he played against as opposed to Bob. Stolarz generally got the starts against the lower tier teams. Also Tampa is way too high IMO. Vasy is getting more human every year, it's not just that last year was a down year, it's been down each year. And then the backup situation is a nightmare. They should be around 9-10 IMO. Vasy just continues to coast on his reputation from years' past now.
@maverik094
@maverik094 4 ай бұрын
lol what? Vasy had .915 sv% in 2022-23. Yes he had bad year in 2023-24, but he had no help from defense, only Hedman was good and Sergy was out. Don't forget that Vasy was hurt for a long time and he didn't fully recover from injury which he had admit. Now with McDonagh, Moser and without Stamkos, defensive numbers should go up.
@joeb2151
@joeb2151 4 ай бұрын
I guess I appreciate you putting a Flyers magnet on the board and not just having it on the floor nearby. Going to be wild to see who is in net this year in October, January and April.
@ztobro
@ztobro 4 ай бұрын
Errson, Fedotov, Kolosov… someone who isn’t on the team yet?🤪
@Muskokan1
@Muskokan1 4 ай бұрын
19:43 getting older , cuz that's how time works is funny LOL.
@bobbydrex5268
@bobbydrex5268 4 ай бұрын
I think the combo between the goalies + new D additioins + better defensive system w/ new coach for NJ makes them a top 10 tadem. Let alone the combined cap hit is 6MM between the two.
@guybunchofnumbers123
@guybunchofnumbers123 4 ай бұрын
Luukkonen criminally underrated, both the present and future in net (compare him to Ullmark, great goalie on mid team at best in Buf)
@Noisey-Crickkett
@Noisey-Crickkett 4 ай бұрын
I personally see Varly being the game 1 starter for next season. He is criminally underrated and under appreciated
@kswizz26
@kswizz26 4 ай бұрын
As an Isles fan I knew we were definitely top 3 but I was suprised to see us number 1, not disagreeing but hopefully they prove you right this season!
@josevitorino1533
@josevitorino1533 4 ай бұрын
Please, do this every season.
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija 4 ай бұрын
I would say Skinner is great when he is hot but lays some stinkers when he is cold. Pickard is consistently average and a great backup
@CanucksNate
@CanucksNate 4 ай бұрын
Skinner is terrible demko and silovs are way better
@Noot_Penguin
@Noot_Penguin 4 ай бұрын
​@@CanucksNateTrue but yall still lost with the better goalies ;)
@ominousflames14
@ominousflames14 4 ай бұрын
@@Noot_Penguin Not sure if you were paying attention, but the Canucks didn't have their top 2 goalies when the Oilers faced them.
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 4 ай бұрын
@@ominousflames14 Maybe make them healthier then?
@Marixa1979
@Marixa1979 4 ай бұрын
@@CanucksNate Maybe, but one of the tandems has conference and finals experience, and the other does not.
@Beforethebeginning
@Beforethebeginning 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, Shannon. A couple of your jokes made me actually laugh out loud today. I appreciate you. Also, I hope Chicago surprises people this year.
@davidyoung5114
@davidyoung5114 4 ай бұрын
You failed to take into account that Buffalo has acquired some high-quality bottom-six players who are going to make it much harder for their opponents to have scoring chances against the Sabre goalies, which will give the team the opportunity to improve. The one wild card will always be the injury bug, as a healthy Samuelsson will help Buffalo's defense as well. Ruff knows his job is to get the Sabres back to the playoffs, and those who don't commit to that goal will stay on the bench, or in the Press Box!
@pokkosomerkoski6504
@pokkosomerkoski6504 4 ай бұрын
Great list. I believe Luukkonen & Levi should be like top-15 easily. Other than that I agree with this list. Thanks for this! Awesome video again.
@LooKang451
@LooKang451 4 ай бұрын
Thompson requested a trade. He wanted an opportunity to be a starter instead of 1B. He’s also due for a new contract.
@ben_cross21
@ben_cross21 4 ай бұрын
Well he’s going to be splitting time once again bc Charlie Lindgren is legit
@114MrCool
@114MrCool 3 ай бұрын
Caps should be higher, Lindgren was arguably the main reason they even made the playoffs last year
@nordkapp1214
@nordkapp1214 4 ай бұрын
Difficult list to do. But some headscratching listings. 😆
@nathanwoodcockn7184
@nathanwoodcockn7184 4 ай бұрын
New Jerseys tandem is great. I don't know, as a Devils fan, it's great considering the ages. But 5 - 10 years ago, absolutely lol
@kradz5172
@kradz5172 4 ай бұрын
I will happily take #12 as a Devils fan. I'm hoping Markstrom holds up and quiets the "he's too old" crowd and one of the goalies they drafted hits. We were spoiled as fans with Broduer and also with how fantastic Schneider was before his injury woes (and playing behind a really lousy team). And hey, we had Chico Resch. EVERYONE loves Chico. One of the greatest guys to ever play the sport.
@jasonvoorhees8545
@jasonvoorhees8545 4 ай бұрын
Markstrom is overrated. He's terribly inconsistent and when he's bad he's awful. He can play very good but unfortunately he's prone to bad decision making and he can lose you a game that he was winning. He has often let in the first shot of a game and killed the team before the game is even 5 mins old. His time in Calgary was 3 seasons of "meh" with one season where the whole team overachieved. That was the season where he totally chit the bed vs. the Oilers, McDavid broke him. He should have been traded out of town right then and there, it would have been best for everyone involved. He is an NHL veteran so he can play the role. If it goes south expect him to be "injured" so here's hoping NJ has a plan B for goaltending. As a former goalie I pay closer attention to goaltending than I should.
@ConfideKylie
@ConfideKylie 4 ай бұрын
Nice thumbnail 🦑 I’m hoping Grubauer can keep rebounding this season and be more like he was in the Kraken’s playoff run…
@MrBlazemaster525
@MrBlazemaster525 4 ай бұрын
We can only hope a better-coached defense helps
@SFLET-up9ll
@SFLET-up9ll 4 ай бұрын
Quick took a drink from the fountain of youth
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 4 ай бұрын
You play on playoff teams you look better.
@CoolHandRobb
@CoolHandRobb 4 ай бұрын
Remember Talbot in Ottawa compared to LA? DK might have a better time in LA as well.
@adamjosey1543
@adamjosey1543 4 ай бұрын
Sharks should sign Lankinen asap. I would also put VAN & TOR higher.
@martinmatusik7455
@martinmatusik7455 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Love your rankings videos
@InsignificantNick
@InsignificantNick 4 ай бұрын
As a Leafs fan, I have to agree with Toronto's placement. Woll shows promise, but he's injury prone and has only played 39 games in his career. Can he play 50 games in a season? Can Stolarz step in when Woll inevitably gets hurt? They need this tandem to work because they don't have the cap space for it to fail.
@20thCenturyManTrad
@20thCenturyManTrad 4 ай бұрын
If it works out they become Bower and Sawchuk 2.0, (never that great, but you get me point) if it doesn't, it's gonna be a rough year. As long as they make the playoffs, one of them could get hot. But overall, yeah 27 is a good spot.
@Dratchev241
@Dratchev241 4 ай бұрын
@@20thCenturyManTrad oh the leafs will make the playoffs, but we all know its going to end in a 1st round exit.
@20thCenturyManTrad
@20thCenturyManTrad 4 ай бұрын
@@Dratchev241 Probably. My point is, if Woll and Stolarz work out, they could be a mighty good pair.
@Dratchev241
@Dratchev241 4 ай бұрын
@@20thCenturyManTrad for sure they could very well end up a good pair. but it is also pissing in the wind as they are pretty much "running it back" like they have the last several years so the result will be the same. Honestly if the leafs had in a dream deal bob and vassy id still expect 1st round exit.
@20thCenturyManTrad
@20thCenturyManTrad 4 ай бұрын
@@Dratchev241 Probably. The one thing they did change, is the coach, Berube is good at getting teams to playoff hockey style. How well will it work with this core? I don't know. Keefe was way too easy on his players in Toronto, Berube has the right amount of sandpaper that could bring some of the core players up in the playoffs, the concern then, is depth, and until one of the core takes either a team friendly deal or is shipped out, that will always be an issue. The defense does have some good changes, they now have at least three good defensive defensemen, in Tanev, McCabe, and Benoit. If Tanev is healthy enough the defense will be an improvement with Berube's coaching style, coupled with the new tandem, it could work. I'm not optimistic, this is Toronto and I doubt until they change the core, that anything will happen.
@MrWescar
@MrWescar 4 ай бұрын
Vegas traded Thompson because there were rumblings over the last two seasons he wanted to be a Starter and wasn't happy being the 1b in the tandem. So he wanted to go to a team where he could "prove" himself. Kelly Mcrimmon has known Thompson long before he was brought into the Knights. I think this is just Mckrimmon trying to do right by Thompson and give him the shot he wants.
@Moobeus
@Moobeus 4 ай бұрын
3:30 that’s so funny, I watch the hockey guy a lot so I know he usually wears a jersey from a team who is doing good or is relevant. So when I saw at the start he was wearing sharks jersey I was like “Wow, can’t be Blackwood? Must be a trade I don’t know about” but he bamboozled me and just wore it cause he liked it. Well played sir, well played 😂😂😂
@JeikobuNippon
@JeikobuNippon 4 ай бұрын
Interesting list. I can’t say I agree with all of it, but I think it would help to have more detail and explanation for your choices. I understand this would make the video twice as long, but I would really prefer it if it meant getting more detail on your choices. I do have to basically agree with your top two, though. I’m kind of surprised you ranked my Avs as highly as you did. Georgie definitely has something to prove this season, and I think because it’s a contract year we will see the best he can give us, and like you said, the Avs will have an important choice to make concerning his future in Colorado. I think my favorite moment of this video was “Bettman on a dirtbike”. That was pretty funny. 😆
@djardine2520
@djardine2520 4 ай бұрын
Desmith got overworked in Vancouver. He is fine as a 20-25 game backup
@hyperhockey
@hyperhockey 4 ай бұрын
Especially the fact he took over for a bit in playoffs and impressed.
@lrba5524
@lrba5524 4 ай бұрын
maybe i've said this before, if so sorry, but I think Varlamov has the most underrated career in my brief time watching hockey.
@Johnmk24
@Johnmk24 4 ай бұрын
Agree 100% on list. TB Vasy has a bounce back year. Matt Thomkins is going to challenge Johansson for backup. I was impressed with his few games played with important wins vs Montreal. Great young Canadian Jr. goalie.
@CentTV
@CentTV 4 ай бұрын
As a Columbus fan I think we’re at least Bottom 2 because I don’t see Greaves playing much
@SeanCosgrove1
@SeanCosgrove1 4 ай бұрын
It sounds like to start the year, the Wild might mix Jesper Wallstedt in with the rotation, especially if Fleury/Gus struggle early. I just hope Wallstedt can get at least 30 starts between the two leagues so he can develop rather than be on the bench or in the press box too much.
@andrewgreen815
@andrewgreen815 4 ай бұрын
Winterpeg is the place backup goaltenders come, after a disastrous season, to get the old career back on track. Welcome back for your 3rd stint Comrie.
@Bum_Hip
@Bum_Hip 4 ай бұрын
Brossoit was the starter over a healthy Hill in Vegas going into their Cup run. He got hurt… as usual, and the rest was history.
@jazefgcm6534
@jazefgcm6534 4 ай бұрын
16:17 I don’t think we were seeing the same Joey Daccord, end of season he had average numbers but he was the best player on the team night after night when Grubauer was injured. Also if you just look at the numbers, Daccord had a .916 I believe and grubauer a .899 Edit: also just checked the numbers, Daccord had the 5th best SV% with 20+ GP and 6th best GAA.
@mariovaccarella6854
@mariovaccarella6854 4 ай бұрын
Great Video, as usual, Shannon
@patch8376
@patch8376 4 ай бұрын
Utah magnet reasons aside, variety's the spice and I like this display of magnets. They look kind of like little goalies squared up.
@kyledavidson2867
@kyledavidson2867 4 ай бұрын
that jersey is so sick
@Nate_Fishes
@Nate_Fishes 4 ай бұрын
The only thing better than this breakdown is the jersey you're wearing. Love it.
@quag311
@quag311 4 ай бұрын
I laughed out loud at the new majestic Utah magnet gag. Had to rewind it to watch it twice.
@MJP-j7c
@MJP-j7c 4 ай бұрын
Colorado way too high
@QueensNewYorkguy
@QueensNewYorkguy 4 ай бұрын
Exactly 😂 I’d put em in the bottom 15 somewhere! I don’t trust either of those dudes in the playoffs
@TheScotian82
@TheScotian82 4 ай бұрын
Colorado IS way too high. This isnt bassetball.
@JBTriple8
@JBTriple8 4 ай бұрын
we have our forward group to keep us in Games I think the ranking is fine
@qp2044
@qp2044 4 ай бұрын
13 to 18 is the correct range. I probably would have put edmonton above them, but I wouldn't swap them with anyone else below. Several may have better upside, but haven't proved it.
@sportfanatic9983
@sportfanatic9983 4 ай бұрын
​@@QueensNewYorkguy Georgiev just had a great playoffs he gave no reason to be skeptical outside of a bad first game. One game is nothing
@LethalAssassin25682
@LethalAssassin25682 4 ай бұрын
IMO “good second half” to describe UPL is an understatement. I know it was only a stretch of one season but he was phenomenal, Sabres (even though they didn’t make it) probably don’t get close to even sniffing the playoffs without him. They probably finish below Montreal without UPL. Love the video though!
@Bum_Hip
@Bum_Hip 4 ай бұрын
Please revisit this again during the 24-25 season. I think there’s several teams that will make big moves down your list.
@bigwillztool
@bigwillztool 4 ай бұрын
That was a great idea for a list! I would like to see your thoughts/projections on where you think individual goalies will be ranked approx 5 years down the road. I think this younger generation of Dostal, UPL, Wolf, Otter, Daccord, maybe Devin Cooley could all be top 10, I’m all in on Dostal btw.
@scottstark2286
@scottstark2286 3 ай бұрын
Love the Sharks magnet with Seals font!
@heresJohnny73
@heresJohnny73 4 ай бұрын
Why is September so far away
@CertifiedBenchwarmer
@CertifiedBenchwarmer 4 ай бұрын
If Blackwood had at least a middle of the pack defense in front of him he would have put up a .915
@XpliCTPaiN
@XpliCTPaiN 4 ай бұрын
As a devils fan, I’ve been saying that for 5 years.
@gcnd9031
@gcnd9031 3 ай бұрын
I almost drowned at that beach on your jersey when I was a kid lol
@forrest7690
@forrest7690 4 ай бұрын
i love your videos man
@oddfuturesupporter
@oddfuturesupporter 4 ай бұрын
"you know, if you're just going to say that I put this list together just to use the new Utah magnet.........oh I don't have an answer for that" Had me laughing out loud pretty hard, thank you for the video!
@davidchimes3464
@davidchimes3464 4 ай бұрын
Hardest position to rank, goaltending is notoriously inconsistent, but here are my takes: 1. Argue about the order all you want, the top 8 are a step above the rest, Shannon is right in that. 2. Shannon has an anti-youth bias. It's understandable, young goalies can be especially unpredictable. I would have given more credit to Buffalo's tandem for instance, Luokannen was that good for a long enough stretch. 3. Like that he tries to factor injury risk into the equation. He said so with Carolina, when healthy that tandem, now that Kotchetkov seems to have settled in to NHL play more, is a bit better than where it's ranked. He didn't say it, but Blackwood when healthy is quite good and would put the Sharks higher. Their defense is so bad that not everything their tenders have to do gets accounted for in publicly available advanced stats. 4. I think LA, Anaheim, and Seattle are rated too high; partly because Shannon has an anti-youth bias for some of the teams below them. Seattle is a bit inexplicable to me; both their netminders are inconsistent, even for goalies. 5. Wolf and Fedotov should be given more credit. They have been both scouted a class above every goalie prospect. Fedotov was a pure phenom in the KHL and everyone forgets how his development was disrupted because of the corrupt seeming draft evasion charges; I wouldn't read much into his performance on North American ice coming over late in the season last year, dude could very well turn into an elite NHL goalie fast. Granted, both the Flames and Flyers have very weak other options so it would take a lot of guts ranking them higher. Again, tough to rank, so much uncertainty every year.
@Vis_Electra
@Vis_Electra 4 ай бұрын
The fact Lankinen and Askarov are supposedly on the market and no one picks them up still baffles me. Does no one have any cap space?
@MitchyM115
@MitchyM115 4 ай бұрын
No it’s the fact that Nashville wanted a prospect AND a top 10 pick for Askarov. Massive overpay
@justjohnny420
@justjohnny420 4 ай бұрын
Askarov has a high asking price and Lankinen seems like your average backup goalie, nothing special
@HarryRiceHockey
@HarryRiceHockey 4 ай бұрын
@@MitchyM115 That's really not that big of an overpay for a future top 5 goalie in the league. Askarov is well worth that payment, if anything it's less than what they should be asking.
@JarradBruessel32
@JarradBruessel32 4 ай бұрын
Lmfao he lost his starting spot in the ahl during the playoffs
@endertamer3273
@endertamer3273 4 ай бұрын
@@JarradBruessel32 no he got injured in game 4 and had an injury that impeded his play from the end of march into the end of the regular season, I'm not a preds/ads fan but I do pay more attention to them than most other teams because they've got some guys I like (and the ads twitter admin is funny as shit) and I won't have a stellar goalie prospect disrespected on false information
@everettfelix3905
@everettfelix3905 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad THG likes Montreal’s tandem. I think we will surprise some people. We won’t be showstoppers but we’re better than people think in net
@JayTD206
@JayTD206 4 ай бұрын
Actually Thompson requested a trade out of Vegas.
@mikepoint4717
@mikepoint4717 4 ай бұрын
I feel you hit the mark for the Leafs , it’s going to be season of ups and downs for the Leafs tandom . Even with the new “additions” this years version of the Leafs have a tough road ahead of them . Great review.
@wihamaki
@wihamaki 2 ай бұрын
Really think so? He's got the Oilers at #14 with their #1 goalie having a worst save percentage then both Woll and Stolarz. Leafs went through 13 defensemen during the regular season. If Jani Hakanpaa can play, with Tanev also added to the mix, you could also be seeing a much better defense in front of the goalies as well. And this isn't even counting Matt Murray who wasn't bad for his first stretch with the team until trying to play through injury and then finally getting shut down and operated on.
@bigchungus8796
@bigchungus8796 4 ай бұрын
what goalie advance stats do you use?
@CasaleRA
@CasaleRA 4 ай бұрын
I think the Boston tandem to start the season will be Swayman and Bussi. If they don't carry 3, and I don't expect they will, the Bruins are more likely to put Korpisalo on waivers to see if he can get his game back in Providence. Not much fear Korpisalo would be claimed, whereas teams low on your list (or Vegas) may well take a flyer on Bussi who also has to clear waivers. Best scenario, Bussi performs and Korpisalo plays well enough to be a quality injury fill in and maybe even a late season trade.
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 4 ай бұрын
are there any teams that could use a third goaltender? which netminders could help as third goaltender?
@jakelefkowitz4570
@jakelefkowitz4570 4 ай бұрын
Close. Would definitely switch rangers and islanders, being that Sorokin struggled a bit.
@aronbrown9411
@aronbrown9411 4 ай бұрын
I'm still trying to figure out why Nashville brought in Wedgewood and didn't resign Lankanin, that's a peculiar move. I think NJ is a bit higher on the list, as well as Buffalo, and TB better hope that VAS can bounce back in a big way because I am not very big on Johansson.
@nesmegavanialink350
@nesmegavanialink350 4 ай бұрын
Good ranking. Seems fairly accurate to me.
@TrAvi5link
@TrAvi5link 4 ай бұрын
As a Leafs fan I would have been pretty surprised if they were above the bottom row. Hopefully their goalies can prove they are ready for larger workloads!
@wihamaki
@wihamaki 2 ай бұрын
Among goalies that played at least 10 games, they were 4th and 30th in save percentage. Leafs used something like 13 defensemen. There's a little bit of unknown, but the Leafs are looking good. Matt Murray finally going under the knife and getting his health back might even put him back in his regular grove.
@WestBrantKid
@WestBrantKid 4 ай бұрын
I only made it to 24 because I have to go. I'll pick it up later, but for now... I wonder what your opinion of Murray is. I hoped you were going to mention him. He'll likely get in at some point dew to injury, assuming he gets his game back in the 'A'. I wouldn't be surprised if he tears up the AHL, but I'm not expecting it.
@Steve_Hunts96
@Steve_Hunts96 4 ай бұрын
Vegas at 23 is criminally low. You’ve got Adin Hill, who before his injury was having an all-star season coming off the Stanley Cup win, and now he’s paired with Samsonov, a guy who sure had a down season a year ago, but has shown in the past that he can actually be a very quality goaltender in the NHL. On top of that, Vegas should still possess one of the best defensive units in the NHL, so don’t be surprised if Vegas actually boasts some of the best goaltending in the NHL this season, barring any further injuries.
@MarkSmith-ho5yc
@MarkSmith-ho5yc 4 ай бұрын
As a leafs fan i was so glad to see Samsonov go. His save percentage was a dismal .886 i believe. He also let in 2 terrible goals in game 7 that cost the leafs the series against Boston. If the leafs had brought him back this year i probably would of stopped watching hockey. Lol
@tristingleason464
@tristingleason464 4 ай бұрын
Shannon, Buffalo at 27 is a bit low eh? I would put them around 15-20 range with UPL in net
@PickledHeartbreak
@PickledHeartbreak 4 ай бұрын
The Kings love to bank on over the hill players and then wonder why it doesn't work out. PLD for Kuemper was absolute mastery of a trade, but I don't expect much from Kuemper overall.
@jonny_vdv
@jonny_vdv 4 ай бұрын
Worth pointing out that Detroit's log jam of goalies also includes Jack Campbell in addition to the three you named here.
@wihamaki
@wihamaki 2 ай бұрын
Think this was just rating the goalies that will play in the NHL.
@BunnEFartz
@BunnEFartz 4 ай бұрын
Lists are hard, that's why I watch yours. 👍
@johanjarvinen
@johanjarvinen 4 ай бұрын
Afaik Gustavsson didn't have a bad year by the private data models. He had a bit of a slow start but he had one of the best runs between December and February iirc.
@Leiska27
@Leiska27 4 ай бұрын
I would have liked it if the Preds kept Keijo but I hope someone picks him up. He is a great backup and would be an asset to meny a team.
@ChrisHorvath0
@ChrisHorvath0 4 ай бұрын
what the heck is that jersey??
@betterknow1591
@betterknow1591 4 ай бұрын
So glad someone else is wondering why Lankinen isn't signed. Guy was very underrated when he was in Nashville cuz everybody loves Saros. Even so he did at least as well and probably better than guys like Reimer, Vanecek, and Kuemper, who are all important pieces on this board. Obviously Preds are pivoting to Wedgewood but I don't get why someone else hasn't snapped Lanky up.
@dub3773
@dub3773 4 ай бұрын
Definitely was not expecting the Islanders to be #1 when I started the video. As a Sens fan i'm really hoping that Ullmark can carry them into the playoffs where anything can happen.
@DylanHoude-e3r
@DylanHoude-e3r 4 ай бұрын
on point for the most part!
@Vienna107
@Vienna107 4 ай бұрын
Shows how much I've been paying attention this off season. For some reason I thought Quick retired or was testing free agency.
@jacquelineheimburg9600
@jacquelineheimburg9600 4 ай бұрын
I would put Florida as number 2. I think Bobrovsky is on a mission. He outplayed Igor and most importantly, Vasilevskiy, who has imo nothing more to prove, in the playoffs. Sorokin has that it factor. I’m looking forward to a match up in the eastern conference 2025.
@WilliamBonney-gl2qf
@WilliamBonney-gl2qf 4 ай бұрын
Shannon,thank you for doing the Lord's work 😁
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