Ranking iconic travel watches by how well they hold their value

[@frankv7068]

I own the Skydweller Blue 💪🏽 but wear it like a Seiko SKX, don’t care about value retention the more it scratch the more I know I’ll keep!

[@DecemberNames]

I just wanted to take a moment to say how amazing your video was! I was really impressed with the quality of the footage, the editing, and the overall presentation. You did a great job of explaining the topic in a clear and concise way, and I learned a lot from watching your video. I also really appreciated the way you made the video engaging and entertaining. You kept my attention throughout the entire video, and I never felt bored or lost. I would definitely recommend your video to anyone who is interested in learning more about the video.

[@user-wi9nn6dz8w]

Great video and graphic presentation! Next time, please kindly also include the IWC Portugieser 41mm two register Chronograph reference 3716 in the group of iconic watches.

[@dannysimenauer5745]

I am a value buyer and love WC’s rankings based on actual up to date prices. I also appreciate you doing it by brand. It makes the video easier to follow.

[@rsixx6548]

I would make one minor correction. There are still many "older' Rolex models still being sold to date, so I would not discount the fact that some people out there may still have the option to purchase said 'discontinued' watches at MSRP.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

Do you have any time series data on durability or longevity of value retention? The Pateks perform very well. Can the data tell you whether a buyer can pay these premiums in today's market and still expect strong value retention in 3/5/10+ years out? I'm interested in this because I'm on the verge of acquiring a Nautilus and better understanding the long term value proposition will help me make my decision.

[@WatchCharts]

You can get access to 5 years of historical secondary market prices on our website through the WatchCharts Professional membership. However, I wouldn't necessarily feel confident using that data to make a 10 year projection. The last few years have shown that the watch market can be incredibly volatile and susceptible to hype/trends.

[@timeisahumanconstruct9251]

@@WatchCharts Thanks. Agreed. I'm interested in data that precedes the most recent cycle so I can see how Patek and Rolex performed in down markets. Do you know where I can access older data? I'd say the market really starting to take off starting in 2018 so having anything older would be illuminating. Thanks again.

[@stevencarpio6317]

Surprised that you didn't mention the Blancpain dual-time models, or the other JLC's with a worldtime function.

[@nathanmagnuson2589]

nice to see Bulgari and JLC

[@mojaal]

Another gem! I'd love to see how your own collection fared in the market

[@panosmitas9482]

moral of the story, these watches are overpriced at retail to begin with

[@Greg-pc5xx]

Value retention when sold to grey market dealers would be interesting. How much 'cash' can I make compared to Ebay and Chrono24 (extra costs even here).

[@lousyshot1]

I literally could watch watch charts information instead of just about every other KZbin watch channel out there. I wish there was a way they could provide some real world analysis on actual sales price versus listing price, understanding that the listing price is what they base there research on.

[@manuel_winde]

With several recent price rises, the Reverso Duoface will seem to depreciate worse but the models for sale preowned will have been bought at a lower price. I could make a profit on what I paid for mine 2 years ago after wearing it for 2 years

[@michaelfierman3256]

Congrats on your new GMT!

[@WatchCharts]

Thanks!

[@Not_me9791]

Wonder where do u get this valuation...

[@WatchCharts]

Our systems automatically track and analyze dozens of different marketplaces across the world and estimate daily market prices. We have a more detailed explanation of our methodology here: watchcharts.com/watches/about

[@watchman8817]

great video and excellent information ... Thanks a bunch.

[@falrashed33]

Excellent exercise, thank you 🙏

[@mylestan3551]

MY FAVES Patek philippe aquanaut 5164A-001 PATEK PHILIPPE NAUTILUS 5990/1r-001 Rolex explorer 2 226570-0001,white dial orange hand Rolex GMT master 2 126713GRNR-001 (BLACK DIAL, GOLD FACE)

[@deschan2246]

Thank you 👍

[@draganbalzic4493]

VRL (Value Retention Loss)? Is that similar to Jumbo Shrimp, a “dull roar”, “poor health”,

[@jackey8238]

I think you missed FP Journe Resonance... Good video tho!

[@dannysimenauer5745]

Love to see a video in the same value retention format for green dial watches, and a separate video on aventurine dial watches.

[@hammadhumayun9311]

Thanks a lot. Really appreciate it

[@HydrogenAlpha]

What surprises me most about this list is how little the value retention relates to the desirability of the watches. I make an exception for the Rolex Pepsi, which I love, but otherwise, most of my favourites are massive losers on the grey market... which is excellent news.

[@issacsalinas99]

Great stuff!

[@osobad1127]

I reiterate: unless you are buying a Rolex, PP, AP buy secondary !

[@davenordsieck6444]

Lol, put the 126713GRNR at S level even though the % put it in A level. It’s a winner though 😂

[@williamxchau]

These no point using Rolex RRP as a guide when none of us can get the watch at RRP.

[@biohazard99]

Of course you had to put your GMT GRNR in the S category, even though it only had 33% retention.. 😂 😂

[@WatchCharts]

The video description at the time of publishing included this correction: "Two watches were placed incorrectly in the tier list screen recording: the Sky-Dweller ref. 326394 should have been placed in the S tier, and the GMT-Master II ref. 126713GRNR should have been placed in the A tier. The data is correct for both watches, just the screen recording beyond the 14:18 timestamp shows the two watches visually categorized incorrectly. The error is regretted."

[@ThisIsMTH]

While I like and appreciate these videos, you need to adjust how you display value retention. If a watch retails for 10k and goes for 15k on the market, to say the value retention is 50% is INCORRECT. This would imply the market price is 5k. Rather, it should be 150%, given the market price is 150% of the retail price. OR, if you want to display the difference between market and retail pricing, one could display as ROI/gross margin.

[@draganbalzic4493]

VRL (Value Retention Loss)… Is that similar to “jumbo shrimp”, “resident alien”, “plastic silverware“, “same difference“, “poor health”, and every other oxymoron? Did you learn that while interning at Lehman? 😂😂😂 DBNR

[@ConchienceClothing]

Lol bro you need a God tier for the Nautilus

[@aajaaaa]

Batman

[@N7Sound]

People's obsession with Rolex is disgusting.

[@davidelliott948]

As your videos show, most watches lose value. Buy what you like and will wear!