Do you agree with my list, Would you like to see a part 2 ranking 11-20?
@blindegearstring86169 ай бұрын
Give me 11-20. I want to see what non meat riding, non defensive defenseman think of Slavin
@canuckster249 ай бұрын
No and no
@goldfingershat8 ай бұрын
No
@baiqi448 ай бұрын
Not even close.
@kademanning46289 ай бұрын
Having Quinn Hughes at #4 is a comically uninformed take 🤣 In his first year as captain he has the Canucks at the top of the league, not to mention he is leading the league in points among defensemen and has one of the best plus/minus stats in the league. Doesn't take much to see that he is at least #2 on this list.
@JP-vy7ez9 ай бұрын
He is one of my favorite players, but I honestly feel he is definitely ranked too low. Has zero weaknesses and is better offensively than 90% of forwards in the league. His leadership is criminally underrated. He is the second best Defenseman in the NHL, and would be an easy #1 if not for what could be the best Defenseman to ever play. Hughes would be number one by a margin if not for Makar. Not a Canucks fan, just calling it how it is!
@heefo9 ай бұрын
The issue is he's just now starting to build up consistency. All three players above him are consistently good every single season.
@andrewc63859 ай бұрын
I disagree. His underlying defensive numbers are weak. He is indeed more like a forward. Dont get me wrong, hes a good player. But i believe the rank is proper
@JP-vy7ez9 ай бұрын
@@andrewc6385 I see where you’re coming from, but this list is mostly made up of offensive players. I believe he’s as good defensively as anyone on the list except Herman, miro, Fox or Makar
@Goats229 ай бұрын
@@andrewc6385 produce some stats that show that from this season. he's so weak defensively that he is the second best +/- player in the entire league, but yeah what a major liability. the only thing that is liable to happen when he is on the ice is the puck goes into the other team's net and he adds another point to his league-leading total. at this point it has just become an automatic reaction from morons who clearly watch no canucks hockey and then have nothing to back up their ignorant comments.
@mlegion78989 ай бұрын
"Hughes is my pick to win the Norris" I have him at number 4. The disrespect for Hughes is unbelievable.
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Again this is not just for this season, if it were than sure I would say Hughes, but all together for the reasons I listed Hughes is number 4
@marveliciouscombos9 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockeythat’s a dumb enough take for no one to subscribe .
@mkong39 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey Honestly, it should be Makar and Hughes at #1 and #2. If you're looking at "potential and careers so far", how did you put Hughes at #4. A few seasons ago when his defensive capabilities were questionable, sure, I would of put him in maybe the top 5 or 10. But he has improved and grew, with a plus/minus of a staggering +33 this year. When he's on the ice, he's a huge factor, more than a #4 spot would. That's just my personal opinion of course. Makar is #1 to me still, as long as he's healthy.
@plrt67949 ай бұрын
@@marveliciouscombos. Vancouver fan? Hughes is really good but if he’s ranked based on the last few years then his rank at 4 is pretty fair.
@patricklee45819 ай бұрын
no it's not lol. He's #2 at a minimum, and I can make a case for #1. @@plrt6794
@cantpleasonist9 ай бұрын
Crazy how Karlsson went from 100 points to not even an honorable mention.
@214andydy9 ай бұрын
Sorry I can’t take you seriously if you don’t have Q Hughes at 2.
@benjamineppel5373 ай бұрын
fox has been better as a whole past few seasons. recency bias would have him above fox. i have him at 3
@jacobboaden22139 ай бұрын
I’m not sure which annoys me more. How underrated/under appreciated Josi is, or how overrated/overhyped Fox is.
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
I think that I actually have Josi higher than most and if you think Fox is overrated you need to go watch some New York games cause he is a stud
@jacobboaden22139 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey I think you’re also wrong. lol Fox was and is a petty phuck
@pyro28679 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey watch Hughes play an you will see what carrying the play means
@Aplestamatos29 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockeyHe’s top 5 for sure but no one is putting him #3 right now considering the time he missed this year it’s like you want us just to ignore that
@veritasinvicta81289 ай бұрын
Cool to see you recongnize Dobson. I honestly was wondering if you'd recognize his outstanding contributions to the Islanders this year. I'm glad you see it. He's looking like the best two way defenseman the Isles have had since HOFer Denis Potvin.
@billblake96655 ай бұрын
Potvin was a beast he could score and hit i was at the game he scored his last playoff goal in....he beat ron hextall clean. Man I wish the flyers could get a d man half that good.
@veritasinvicta81285 ай бұрын
@@billblake9665 Things are looking up for the Flyers. I really thought they were going to hold onto third last year. Torts is a very good coach, though he does tend to wear out his welcome eventually. I'll have to check that Potvin last playoff goal game again. Flyers took over for the isles in the east after the Dynasty, had a couple of finals runs ended by the Oilers if I recall.
@kk-en8ns9 ай бұрын
Makar and Hughes are easy 1 and 2.
@mad-bloodypearls9 ай бұрын
remember not just this season...
@CJ-ou1ln9 ай бұрын
Dahlin got the most points on the sabres by some margin. Offensive players are really letting that team down
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Agree, I love Dahlin like I said its sort of a hot take but I just want to see him take this team a bit higher each year and it feels like he didn't improve much from last year.
@MJ-19817 ай бұрын
Forsling is MILES ahead of Brandon Montour at this point.
@CanesNate9 ай бұрын
How is Quinn Hughes at #4 and Jaccob Slavin not on the list
@JuandeFucaU9 ай бұрын
"defensemen..... love them or hate them?" WTF is that supposed to mean? who hates defensemen? dumbest thing I've heard today and I just watched everything Tortorella said.
@Sethstrat9 ай бұрын
Jacob Slavin is top 10, top 5 even. He’s not an offensive juggernaut, but he is one of the best defenseman in the league.
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Top 5 is wild I think he is a 11-20 defenseman
@Sethstrat9 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey from a strictly impact on the game for his team, his IQ, skating, defensive ability and overall well-roundedness? Name a better defensemen that can do that. His one fault is he is NOT an offensive juggernaut. He won't put up the crazy points, but that's not his role. We're talking about DEFENSEmen. Slavin be savin the Canes.
@nigelgladwyn74319 ай бұрын
@@SethstratDevon teows
@Sethstrat9 ай бұрын
Lmao you’re comparing Toews to Slavin 🤡
@pieman._7159 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockeyif you only look at points… I can understand why you think he’d be rated lower. But if you watch his game Slavin is a true defensive defenseman with an incredibly high hockey iq. Highly underrated effort player that makes big plays night in and night out, that’s an easy top 10 imo.
@ryancrow96729 ай бұрын
The rest don’t matter. Makar, fox, and Hughes in any order.
@sigma001139 ай бұрын
Makes a list of best defenseman proceeds to have a video of them doing nothing but score. Is this a list of best offensive defenseman? You don't even have some of the best defenseman from one of the best defensive teams in Gus Forsling and Brandon Montour.
@bosstankproductions13049 ай бұрын
Missing Slaavin as well. That man is SO good and for not being an offensive defenseman he now leads Canes in all time points for a D man (Not too hard of a feat, lo)
@tygher9 ай бұрын
Totally agree about the video highlights only showing scoring. Not one highlight of Quinn Hughes dominating the O-zone for 2 minutes while embarrassing the other team over and over again. LOL I think an extended version of this video should be made to show the skating quarterbacking abilities of each defensive-men.
@jacobmcconnachie63619 ай бұрын
Hughes would be #2 on my least easily and gives Makar a run for his money in the #1 spot.
@billblake96655 ай бұрын
i will always be upset that the flyers drafted nolan patrick his injury problems made me too scared i wanted cale makar so bad.......they threw a number 2 overall pick out the window. Patrick is done its very sad he could play.........but he is cursed ... makar is unreal........i hope mitchkov stays healthy at least we might finally have a real scorer.....but man.....I knew we should have picked makar...its been rough being a flyers fan this last decade......our defense and goaltending imploded the last 15 games of the season it was a nightmare......and yes i would like to see your 11-20 rankings...
@dupersuperrevolution9 ай бұрын
Obviously this video is favoring more offensive defensemen who rack up points but I really feel like if we’re talking about players who do their job as DEFENCEmen you gotta bring up Mo Seider atleast as an honorable mention.
@Aplestamatos29 ай бұрын
I love Fox but he’s not Makar level where he can get hurt miss a bunch of games and still be top 3. He’s had 2 70pt seasons he’s good but not that level yet
@therealsamx47219 ай бұрын
I like your top 10, but you should check out on Micheal Matheson with the habs. This guy is a BEAST
@theamazingg37739 ай бұрын
Josi should be higher
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Who would you move down?
@nokkamies49889 ай бұрын
He's ahead of Heiskanen, Fox and Mcavoy for sure
@aliviachaudhuri18419 ай бұрын
@@nokkamies4988josi had one good season he's good but fox and McAvoy are easily better
@nokkamies49889 ай бұрын
@@aliviachaudhuri1841 nah man 😂
@tangofett40655 ай бұрын
@@aliviachaudhuri1841lol “OnE gOoD SeAsOn”….. lol no…. Just… no…. Josi is EASLIY one of the best Defensmen in the league!
@seanmcdonnell26499 ай бұрын
There are two Norris Candidates. Hughes and Makar... they are the best.
@deleteduser60749 ай бұрын
Cale maker gives up over 3 goals per 60 minutes played and contibutes to 4.3 per 60 Fox 1.8 and 4... 1.8 goals against per 60 holy crap this guy is straight insane
@mz6107 ай бұрын
Nhl leader in +/-: not a top ten dman lmaooooooo clownery
@mz6107 ай бұрын
OMG OR EVEN HONORABLE MENTION! Hahahhaah
@mccringy72949 ай бұрын
Where’s Dobson?
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
#10 cmon now did you watch the video
@akamoofossa47499 ай бұрын
Kinda crazy that last years Norris winner isn’t even here…
@satyamdhir47069 ай бұрын
Hughes at 4 is comical LOOOL. 0 fucking reason for Heiskanen to be ahead of him. That’s laughable
@JustaComment939 ай бұрын
Nice I’ve always argued with idiots online that Fox is Top 3 at least and they would tell me no and say Hughes is better 😂
@Gnashadelphia9 ай бұрын
Glad to see Heiskanen get his flowers.
@wynonasbigbrownbeaver67579 ай бұрын
Drew Doughty should be on this list. Elite 2 way defenceman
@Goats229 ай бұрын
he was once. now he is just an above average used-to-be who will drop off fast from here on out
@wynonasbigbrownbeaver67579 ай бұрын
@@Goats22 hes having one of his best seasons this year
@Goats229 ай бұрын
@@wynonasbigbrownbeaver6757 a whole whopping 39 points! WOW!
@wynonasbigbrownbeaver67579 ай бұрын
@@Goats22 15 goals and norris caliber defence
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
He is having a good year but like I said at the start its not just based on this one season. Doughty is a great two way defenseman but every guy on this list is better offensively and defensively than Doughty. Doughty is still great which is why he is in honorable mentions.
@billblake96655 ай бұрын
I think next year there is going to be another hughes on the list........
@jadenmiedema3 ай бұрын
Hughes at 4 is the reason I’m never coming back to this channel
@doomslayerdave9 ай бұрын
Werenski is on a losing team but deserves recognition.
@denizdowntown63859 ай бұрын
Bro, having Quinn below Fox and Heiskanen makes you lack any legitimacy imo… only Makar is on par
@tymmeh22339 ай бұрын
Horrendous take he def doesn’t watch Quinn. Quinn’s defense was just as good last year. Man only looks at the numbers🧱.
@mad-bloodypearls9 ай бұрын
not just defense but also offense to think about but i agree. Hughes should not be 4 but 3 because fox and makar are better. Could make arguements but still.
@tymmeh22339 ай бұрын
Hughes offense speaks for itself. I really think hughes is better than fox but makar is number 1. @@mad-bloodypearls
@FastKarr199 ай бұрын
Only disagreement is I think Hedman isn’t really a top 10 guy anymore/there are much more deserving guys in the league. He’s had enough mid seasons but now, and per analytics his defensive numbers are terrible this year.
@darkruller9 ай бұрын
hope hughes wins norris this year would be cool for a canuck to finally get one
@hagoty82349 ай бұрын
He’s a lock nucks too good
@dustinjones19079 ай бұрын
Heiskanen is a very good number 1 dman. But having him ahead of hughes is an extremely bad take. Even before the monster year hughes is having this year, hughes didnt up his defensive game this year, he upped his offense. Hughes leveled up defensively probably 2.5 years ago but nobody really noticed. He took his offense to the next level this year and is CLEARLY only half a step behind makar if not neck and neck. Those are the 2 best dmen in the league and its not even debatable. Its them 2 and then everyone else.
@nathanembro36939 ай бұрын
solid list, however i think any of these guys aside makar can be switched a couple spots up or down and it would still look like a good list
@heefo9 ай бұрын
really i think as long as you keep makar and fox at the top you can be pretty loose with the top 7-8 and it will still look good. makar and fox are just on a different plane.
@JatwaI9 ай бұрын
@@heefo fox over hughes lmaooooooo
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
So true, you could move 2-8 around any way you want and I wont complain. These are just my personal preferences.
@dennybarlau80659 ай бұрын
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@Infinick29 ай бұрын
Gustav Forsling robbed
@premiumnapping56279 ай бұрын
Confirmed Jimmy does not know puck
@Goats229 ай бұрын
@@premiumnapping5627 for real though, this list is a complete joke. my own fault for expecting some random nobody off YT to actually know something about the thing they make videos about.
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Settle down
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Nah great player and having a great year. Top 20 for sure though
@Adreadon9 ай бұрын
+/- of 47
@JP-vy7ez9 ай бұрын
Pretty fair list. We need a part 2!!! (11-20)
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Will do thanks for watching
@JP-vy7ez9 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey You should definitely do an 11-20 list for centers and wingers as well!!
@endlessabe9 ай бұрын
Dougie Hamilton miss because he’s been out most of the season?
@HarrisonHollers9 ай бұрын
I still don’t think he’d make the list.
@veritasinvicta81289 ай бұрын
He's an offensive defenseman. There are defensive defenseman, like Adam Pelech for instance. This list is comprised of guys who excell on both sides of the game.
@Donmananddoghockey4 ай бұрын
Quinn Hughes has to be 2 4 is a bit low
@OperationNemesis8 ай бұрын
I absolutely think Doughty should be on the list. No Doubt.
@Raphael_Slowik9 ай бұрын
Guess Bouch might have 2000 points and wise youtubers would go „Naaaah, merchant of #97…“ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
This is his breakout season truly. Let me see Bouchard do this consistently all next season and we can add him to the top 10 for now he stays in my honorable mentions.
@yocheveddowek639 ай бұрын
Wheres Dougie Hamilton!!
@munk06403 ай бұрын
Quinn or Makar are 1 and 2, no order.
@blindegearstring86169 ай бұрын
Doughty? Slavin?
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Honorable mentions, had them in that part
@blindegearstring86169 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey mb I stopped watching when there was like a minute left since I had something to do. Sorry for wasting your time
@TopShelfPodcast9 ай бұрын
Cale and Fox are too good
@Goats229 ай бұрын
too good yet both have less points than hughes?
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Points aren't everything. We are talking defensemen here after all
@Goats229 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey stop saying empty shit and produce the stats that show they are better than hughes defensively.
@mcj449 ай бұрын
@@Goats22 You’re a joke.
@Goats229 ай бұрын
@@mcj44 your life is a joke little boy
@Sipyyy9 ай бұрын
bro forgot bouchard
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Nah he is not top 10. Honorable mention though
@Raphael_Slowik9 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockeyBro, 15 goals, best ppount shot in the league and games in hand being No 6 in the scoring list makes you rank him somewhere ? You have no clue.
@kirbygates95318 ай бұрын
Ur so funny buddy lol
@johnbrowne21709 ай бұрын
McAvoy all the way.
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
Easily top 5
@Chewatdachewy8 ай бұрын
I was going to unsub but I'm not subbed already. You messed up with Quinn and anyone who has watched decades of the game will tell you the same. Cale is not as good as Quinn this year either. 💀 had Cale started his career with the Canucks you would not even know who he is.
@Coletendy9 ай бұрын
Ik dobson
@theamazingg37739 ай бұрын
Personally?
@kirbygates95318 ай бұрын
What a joke QH at 4
@Gavingames69 ай бұрын
Aaron
@xavierst-cyr5539 ай бұрын
Bro josi is too high for me he just behind fox, people putting Hughes #2 are crazy this guys got is first top 5 d-man this year and he is a defensive liability vs other player on this list
@satgosal63149 ай бұрын
Hughes is plus 36
@kirbygates95319 ай бұрын
Holy bud go smoke another 1 QH is a+36 what r u on man who is ur Dman if u don't mind me asking?
@JustaComment939 ай бұрын
Adam Fox is easily a top 3.
@kgeorge23879 ай бұрын
Hedman is over mcavoy and hughes over miro
@jimmyhockey9 ай бұрын
I disagree, Mcavoy is a stud and so is Miro. One more great year from Hughes and I agree
@kgeorge23879 ай бұрын
@@jimmyhockey i love miro im a dallas fan but hughes is will be better but i understand ur pov. If playoffs comes im sure 90% of people pick hedman over mcavoy same as u sad about ur goalie video about vasi hes got not the best year but when playoffs comes i will take vasi over everybody so thats why i pick hedman
@kirbygates95319 ай бұрын
All u guys r funny lol lol lol lol lol lol lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂