RANKING Quest 2 Speakers: Logitech Chorus, VR Ears & More...

[@dragoncade]

I bought and returned the Logitech Chorus. Was excited for them until I started to find more and more overtsights. Can't use the link cable? Sucks, but I usually do wireless PCVR anyway thru Virtual Desktop. At least it allows for power passthrough, right? Eh...not quite. I found out very quickly that you cannot use the headphones and charge the headset with the passthrough at the same time. At least not with my setup. The moment I plug in an external battery (or even the link cable just for the powerr), the Chorus cuts out and it swaps back to the built-in speakers. Having power running into the passthrough port BEFORE plugging the main USB-C into the Quest itself at first seemed to do the trick as the Chorus speakers started right up. But then I found the headset wasn't charging. The use-case of the Chorus is so limited, specific and narrow that it makes it a horrible overall value. I cannot believe someone at Logitech thought this was a good enough product to ship with so many omissions and oversights. It just isn't worth it.

[@jaybratt]

I fully agree! These are just not worth it. $100 and all these problems? 🤦

[@dragoncade]

@@jaybratt I rarely get upset over a product purchase and can usually find SOME kind of value or use of it. And I hate to disparage people involved in the design and engineering of tech. That being said... Whoever looked at this thing at Logitech and thought it was worthy of selling should, in no particular order, be ashamed, fired, slapped, and thrown into the ocean.

[@jaybratt]

@@dragoncade haha that's extreme but I get you. It's a lot of money for something that's not just a pain, but is practically faulty by design. Not ok!

[@MsOpportunity68]

Worse, with the extended battery recognised, I have to remove the powerlead and replug it in both when I turn the quest on and off in order for the battery to be recognised, but the power isn't drawn from the extended battery first, it seems to draw primarily from the headset. I was playing Elite Dangerous, and got a couple of hours play before getting a warning that my headset battery was low. Headset battery was showing 25 percent charge, Extended battery 95 percent charge. Whowever tested this needs to get fired. In concet it's good, and the sound is great, but the reality is that there are too many downsides for it to be practicable to use.

[@ricksegal3065]

Great video. It was great to hear Bobo will be coming out with their audio solution very soon. Bobo to the rescue, a company that listens and leads.

[@jaybratt]

ABSOLUTELY! BoboVR has been working on audio for a long time so I really hope they save us with something universal, solid, and it can fit all head straps!

[@Arphix]

My thoughts exactly as soon as Jay said BoBoVR is coming with some audio, I told to myself, wait until they come out until buying something lol

[@nihren2406]

Bobo you say? Now I'm interested. I have an M2 and naturally a Bobo audio solution should work with the M2 no problem. My alternative from everything I've heard would have to be the VR Ears.

[@BlackOps3Fund]

@@jaybratt review the kiwi design one

[@Kurama126]

I'm so glad I found this channel, can't stop watching man

[@jaybratt]

That means a lot to me Daniel!!! Thank you!

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

It's just great to have a channel dedicated to all that stuff out there, others cover just a small amount of addon things and you can't get a full picture there...

[@ViRtualMan37]

My VR Ears just showed up in the mail and I got into RE4. I was hearing leaves crunch and footsteps and the flippin chainsaw running behind me. I'm amazed at the directional audio and the weight really doesn't bother me. Glad they came in second.

[@Haireforce1666]

You’re totally missing the budget alternative. AMVR silicone earmuffs!!! The best!! 😉👍 Absolutely love the channel bud!🤘

[@MajesticBlueFalcon]

Are there any reviews you can point me to for this solution?

[@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial]

Quest 2/Bobovr headstrap - I got the PS Mantis headphones. The main 2 complaints is; 1.) they don't seem to come down low enough to ears. They always feel to short. Maybe im doing something wrong but it's straight forward. 2.) Will now not fit into the PSVR carry case I have.

[@MrTasselhof]

Love the Cat Ears show up in every video haha! Great comparison video and still can't wait till BoboVR's version comes out!

[@TAC0FACE]

where's the Vive DAS Frankenquest fit in with these? jus wonderin

[@jaybratt]

I wish I still had my DAS sometimes. It has some of the clearest audio of any of these but also it's very bass less. Another audio solution that would benefit from an inline amp. Very clear and solid audio for VR: directional, dialogue clarity, and such.

[@irfanpatel5468]

I love the Bobo Vr M2 Plus with the fan it easily surpasses the elite battery strap by far, its not even close. I have both and unfortunately I'm having to return the Bobo VR! Why? I'm using the logitech pro vr headset with the Bobo Vr strap and I mainly use my VR for fitness and I sweat like crazy because my head is fully covered! The only reason I'm keeping the elite strap (reluctantly) with battery is because of the Chorus as the sound quality is supposed to be amazing and it will definitely help with breathability but I'll be losing out on amazing clarity and flexibility of the BoBo VR. Also the reason why the link cable cannot be used via the chorus is due to a hardware limitations of the USB C port as it does not have the bandwidth available for data and be used by the Chorus. Its a hardware limitation not Logitechs fault. If the link cable did work (which is technically not possible) the heat the VR headset would generate would be unbearable anyway.

[@PremortalVR]

The logitech speakers seem like the least intrusive. I like their clean look

[@MrLordbeavis]

Have you tried any of the 3d printer adapters for the bionik mantis earphones? My head is big so the earphones don't press against my ears and don't sound good

[@KeithPenix]

How can I get the ears that u got on ur vr system

[@jaybratt]

They're 3D printed especially for the BoboVR M2, M2 Pro or M2 Plus head strap: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKG8lImapZZ0frM

[@KeithPenix]

How can u get 3d printing on ur vr

[@jaybratt]

Depends what you're looking for. Most of my stuff came from MrTass3dPrint: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKG8lImapZZ0frM

[@idleoutcaster]

Tell Mr. Editor he nailed this! Great job!

[@jaybratt]

I'll pass your compliments along to Editor Jon!!

[@Haireforce1666]

AMVR earmuffs. Have you tried and or reviewed them yet? I’ve tried many audios and these are the best so far for me!!! I’d love your opinion on them. 🤞🏻

[@Haireforce1666]

Cheapest and best audio quality I have found so far!!! 😉👍

[@DiamondDepthYT]

They worked horribly for me. They give out terrible audio quality and bass because they just amplify the already bad quest 2 speakers. Have you even tried wearing good headphones? Don't get me wrong, they're better than just the base speakers, but still they aren't very good

[@jaybratt]

Hi Dawayne! I did try them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJnEaaKqmq-sg9E better than nothing but there are headphones around the same price that will do more

[@fragmentalstew]

Koss Porta Pros are a bit awkward to use with the quest 2, unless you have some sort of mod to attach them directly to the quest 2. The koss ksc75 clip on the ear, making them less awkward to use. The drivers are mostly the same, except that the 75 has a titanium coated membrane which gives them a different sound profile. I'm sure there's many mods for them, and the drivers for both would be interchangeable in those mods. For the mods, some soldering would probably be required, unless you bought them premodded, which would cost more.

[@kamikaze00007]

Now with Bobo and Kiwi Design having their own audio solutions, will we be getting a redux of this Ranking video for audio? Although, Bobo A2s seems to be out of stock perpetually now.

[@xMendonzAx]

Man I really wanted a video like this, thanks! I'm from Brazil, so a lot of these we do not have here... For comparasion, Mantis is almoast 100 dolars here... I have been looking for some audio solution, really wanted that Rebuff VR Ears, but is 130 dolars from theirs site (with shipping and possible more with some taxes from customs)... Maybe you could tell me some "alternatives?" Like a daily use headphone that can fit nicely with the kiwi strap? That would be of great help. I love your videos, keep up bro, you rock.

[@xMendonzAx]

The ones from Sony are the easiest (and cheapest) to buy for me, (around 70 dolars with shipping), however, after this review, idk...

[@jackr.749]

I know this is a old video but hear me out regarding VR audio I have a Pico 4 which does NOT have a 3.5mm audio jack, I wanted to connect my DAS headphones to it, found a 3D printed solution (originally meant for the Quest 2 but fits the Pico4 perfectly), I purchased a Ugreen USB-C to 3.5mm audio adapter. After using this combo, I've come to the conclusion that the DAC used in VR HMDs is very weak (cheap), I've used my DAS headphones with a OG Vive and my Quest 2 and they sounded okay but not fantastic. Once I plugged them into the Ugreen adaptor on the Pico 4, OMG, the sound was amazing, I have never heard the DAS headphones sound this good, so that Ugreen adaptor must have it's own DAC and they must be using something half decent since my DAS headphone now sound the best I ever heard from them. So, a lot of after market headphones for various HMDs might actually be decent headphones but sound "so so" due to the weak DACs built into the HMDs. I think the only exceptions to this are headsets that come with built in headphones, Rift CV1, Samsung Odyssey, and my 2 favorites for sound out of the box.... Index and Reverb G2.

[@gabeto6451]

Would be cool if you do a similar video but with Quest 2 Docks, or even with charging solutions like Kiwi Pro Grips with the magnetic cable!

[@Fall_Leaves_]

I was very surprised at the winner! Thanks for always helping us make informed buys!

[@BigFrogg]

VR ears are currently on sale for the same price as the bionik mantis. Which one would you recommend all things considered?

[@KayoMichiels]

I have one of those headsets that has those tiny earmuff 'headphones' that channel the audio... while not perfect... it's a good all in one solution of bringing the sound closer to your ears.

[@1Gorogorogoro-chan]

Reminds me of the first video i watched on your channel

[@jaybratt]

The headstrap comparison with Josh? That one brought a lot of people in 😊

[@1Gorogorogoro-chan]

@@jaybratt yep thats it

[@iSakkatGaming]

you didn't include the DAS .

[@ZanTeth55]

I'm thinking on getting the PSVR Biontics headphones, but then I heard (read comments below actually) that BoboVR will be coming out with a pair soon. Hopefully (more than likely really) they'll work with the M2 Halo-Straps.

[@sarahmckenzie7953]

Definitely waiting to see what BOBOVR comes up with…not giving up my M2 Plus for anything!

[@jaybratt]

Same!!! It's too comfortable and even my backup straps like the Kiwi Elite still don't work with the new Logitech option

[@sarahmckenzie7953]

@@jaybratt Logitech really missed the mark with the new headphones by not making them compatible with the majority of aftermarket head straps!

[@AndreFG]

I've tired to use a Samsung USB-c to 3.5mm adapter (it worked) and I got the same amount of bass, so I guess there's an amp inside the logitech's I wonder if it's possible to run an equalizer on background the same way it's done with discord/spotify

[@raider1284]

in your chorus review you said that the bass was loud, but otherwise the audio clarity was way worse and muddled/muddy. What changed between that review and this one?

[@KayoMichiels]

Hey Jay... have you tried getting the Koss Porta Pro and then 3D printing the mount for the Quest 2? I've heard they sound amazing (they were used as the drivers for the original Rift)

[@MidnightPanther113]

Have you tried the Razor Barracuda X headphones? They obviously don't attach directly to the headset, but they do use a USB-C wireless dongle. I'm curious how the sound and bass in them would compare to the others? Maybe you can do another video testing non VR specific headphones?

[@Assassin32VR]

It almost seems like the Product Development Department at BoboVR is following JayBratt’s suggestions so this should be pretty good stuff. At the very least theirs should work seamlessly with their own products. Can’t wait for all the details.

[@gar_ee8884]

Can you try plugging in the Logitech Chorus into a power source/battery and see if they still play audio? Other reports are saying they do not work while charging which would be an automatic -100 points to the ranking.

[@Mackshot]

Great roundup review. With the Prettygood3d headphones do you run them direct or through an amp/DSP to enhance the sound? Intending to print a set and buy the drivers as its an inexpensive way to get the off ear experience.

[@hijetgaming1230]

This video could help me choose the right clip on headphones for kiwi elite strap

[@propopopa6869]

Oh this was a highly suggested video

[@jaybratt]

Haha well you NEVER miss a video so I'm pretty sure they all get suggested to you :D

[@roees]

best vr videos out there!

[@jaybratt]

Thank you so much koko!!

[@HeyPixels]

This is probably my top 1 vr channel

[@jaybratt]

RQ that really means a lot to me! Thank you 😊

[@slaaneshgod]

I had alot of hope for the Chorus but the lack of being able to use them with link is a deathknell for me. Thankfully I still have the prettygood3d ones

[@atmeElijah]

If you MOSTLY play your Quest 2 connected to PC (like I do) then using a good blue tooth headset is by far the best option. I use Astro a20's.

[@bluebell1]

Great comparison Jay! I have the VR Ears and never use them. Their too heavy and a pain to take on and off. The sound is not great either. Can’t wait to see what Bobovr comes out with. I hope they rock it!

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

LOL same... got the Ears and just use stock or sometimes the KSC75s I cable managed onto my Q1.

[@bluebell1]

@@CakePrincessCelestia ditto!

[@NeseComedy]

Sounds like I will stick to my custom Koss Porta Pro drivers touching my ear for now, for the bass without much power :/

[@Gamertaque]

Ever thought about buying weighted quest 2 shells instead of actual quest 2

[@TheUniquewon]

MYJK Clip On VR Headphones from amazon have pretty decent and loud sound with fairly nice bass, treble, and mids. You need to DIY a bit to make them fit M2 though. They will clip to the bobo, but need to be held tighter, I just use velcro cable ties. These are also pretty cheap. I also have a set of the sony headphones you have, which I purchased to try to replace the MYJK's (after being pretty happy with them for 2 years), but was not happy with the sony's sound. They are too quiet, and the sound is not great. I expected more from sony...

[@MegaVortex]

Another great video! But still team OG headset with the 3.5mm plug. lol

[@FeeAur]

I love the look and description of the chorus, but the fact that you can't use link makes it a complete deal breaker.

[@jaybratt]

I agree.. I had high hopes and they were fully dashed!

[@Haireforce1666]

And they fit in every case! 😉👍

[@Haireforce1666]

I believe you missed the best ones! AMVR EARMUFFS!!! Please try and review them. 😉🤞🏻

[@Danielsworlds]

Sadly my favorite speakers for quest 2 are out of production. Sony made clip on headphones for years. The bonus here is they hade in built retractable cables. So you could have as long or as short cables as you needed and the headphones were good quality and stayed out of the way of headstraps and being clip on vs in ears or over ears they stay on much better in more active games. But Sony discontinued them the year the quest 2 came out the the only ones still out there are getting expensive

[@ZiggityZeke]

I'm pretty happy with my Mantis, but if Bobo's Audio solution is any good I might just upgrade

[@Haireforce1666]

AMVR silicone earmuffs, totally awesome for people on an extreme budget! They work very well, cheap, under 20 bucks, and fit in any quest case. I’d love to see you review them just for craps and giggles. 🤞🏻🤞🏻😉🤘

[@Haireforce1666]

Thank you! I have these things and they’re the best things I’ve used so far!! 👍😉

[@Haireforce1666]

You just might be surprised at how good they work!!?? 😉

[@jackr.749]

Good thing you didn't include the AMVR headphones, you know the ones that forgot to press up against your ears? LOL, actually, if you can get them to press up against you ears, they sound decent! :) But now they are selling for $80 Canadian, at that price they are a absolute joke, hell they were a joke at $40.

[@khaledassaf6356]

I'm honestly still amazed at how Logitech screwed up so badly when it comes to Link support. Personally, though, I currently just use the Steelseries Arctis 7 headphones with a short cable. Works really well with the Kiwi elite strap.

[@uidzero]

I don’t see it as them dropping the ball. I think they see the writing on the wall that most users prefer wireless anyway and FB is really pushing people to use Airlink vs the wired cable anyway. One of the big reasons people choose Quest 2 over other headsets is not having to use a cable in the first place.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@@uidzero Fair point, but just having the data lanes wired through wouldn't have been hard to achieve anyway.

[@khaledassaf6356]

@@uidzero While I agree, and wireless definitely is the future, I don't think it is there yet in terms of technology, as, at least for me, I seem to have stutters when using it in more intensive games. Half Life Alyx and Boneworks, for example, are unplayable for me due to that. The technology definitely needs a couple more years to fully mature (it's only a matter of time). A better router is also an option, but from what I saw in reviews, the ones that would give me the smoothest gameplay are also not worth it in terms of pricing, at least in my country, at this point in time. Ultimately, though, it's a moot point, since I can't use these anyway due to my headstrap not being supported.

[@xtracreations2191]

Hey jay it probably late but the conquest vr headphones are 100 or 130 you should test them if possible

[@jaybratt]

I responded to your other comment but in case you miss it: Guess what?? One of our AMAZING supporters bought a set and decided they were gonna try something else so they're sending them to us to review!! After Conquest ghosted us even though they promised a loaner to review... so we should have ours in the next 2 weeks and get that review out for you :)

[@xtracreations2191]

@@jaybratt ohh sorry I am kinda bad about seeing responses

[@wilferd]

For $100 I think the Vive DAS is still the go to.

[@notlikethis9932]

THIS!

[@TAC0FACE]

Vive DAS Frankenquest! been rockin it since Quest1! but i prefer the off ear Index/Reverb G2 speakers, they just sound a lot louder!

[@CRAZYME01]

Video was good. But just tell me how in the world do you have so many VRs 😂

[@bone5674]

Me with the Vive DAS

[@TH_guy13]

Let’s go I have the most expensive goodest on!

[@edithchinyere7387]

the kiwi clip ons

[@Rgmekanic]

For ShitzNGiggles I looked up the Conquest VR headphones. I gotta say I'm looking forward to your review, because I sure won't be buying them haha. Those look like the bulkiest, most fiddly, half assed yet at the same time overengineered thing I've ever laid eyes on! Cmooooon Bobo!

[@jaybratt]

So the Conquest promised us a loaner set to review and then GHOSTED us after launch! But now one of our AMAZING supporters bought a set and decided they were gonna try something else so they're sending them to us to review!! We should have ours in the next 2 weeks and get that review out for you :) Random side note they launched at $230 but with an introductory price of $180... now they're down to $100-$130 so I think they realized their price was ridiculous

[@Zalios_16]

Nice

[@notlikethis9932]

For me there is only 1 winner - HTC Deluxe Audio Strap. DONE.

[@Gen.Bread75]

Chorus

[@uidzero]

I can see how the Logitech ones lost for versatility though I think since they had the best sound so for those running the Elite strap with battery the two biggest issues mentioned, compatibility and battery drain become mostly moot. I think for me those were the big winners. They seem to be getting great reviews too from others. Though with the caveat regarding battery and straps.

[@MajesticBlueFalcon]

Dude, there's no pass through on the connection, so the battery straps are a no go bro

[@kenopyowo]

The person who ran prettygood3d shut down their store a few months ago

[@jamescline8074]

Engineered af uses koss porta pros in there design

[@cbrocade]

I can see why you keep giving away quests holy crap.

[@Sky0fLov3]

I HATE the Sony 3D printed ones from Etsy! I wish I listened to your review, they suffocate my ears and horrible for workout - EAR SWEAT!!! They are so tight against my ears and I have a small head! I didn’t bother contacting the seller just a complete paper weight for me now :(

[@shinden15]

where's bobovr? when's bobovr? gimme bobo vr

[@ricksegal3065]

Very soon.

[@Channel7331]

Pacing. Pacing. Pacing, my friend.

[@jaybratt]

Old video alert! :D

[@Channel7331]

@@jaybratt Fair. But it's still relevant, so my criticism is also

[@jaybratt]

Can you go a little further into it? Too fast? Too Slow? Quick cuts?

[@hayzzzVR]

can i have one plss

[@Tezitek]

You can give me one pair of oculus

[@nicholasbutler2365]

The 3.5mm jack is not why bass is lacking 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jaybratt]

If you get your hands on the Logitech Pro "Oculus ready" headset (don't buy it not worth $100) it's an interesting experiment because it has both 3.5 and USB c you can use on the Quest 2 and with USB C it's clearly louder and has punchier bass. It's hypothesized they underpowered the 3.5 output and that's why headphones that sound good on other devices still lack bass on the quest.

[@nicholasbutler2365]

@@jaybratt regardless if the jack is underpowered that just means you need to use lower impedance cans. I use some iems and they have fantastic bass response through the jack

[@jaybratt]

@@nicholasbutler2365 that's a big promise Conquest VR is making with their upcoming headphones. They used a highly efficient driver and adjusted the thickness of the diaphragm to compensate for what they said was a "middle of the road" output on the 3.5. sadly at an introductory price of $240 😳 I don't think a lot of people will be buying their audio solution but we have a test unit coming to review and share with you at least 😊