Ranking Self Defense Martial Arts Weapons | BEST WEAPON TIER LIST Icy Mike Hard2Hurt

If you've ever wondered what the best weapon is for self defense.. You're in luck! Icy Mike from Hard2Hurt and I teamed up to create a Best Martial Arts Tier LIST and we ranked weapons on their usefulness like Self Defense like Kubaton, Escrima, Olight Flashlight, Stinger Tactical Whips, Swords, Ninja Stars (Shuriken), Empty Hands, Tonfas, Rocks, Steel Chairs, Pepper Spray, Buckler Shield, and more!
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Olight Flashlight:
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Stinger Tactical Whip:
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Pepper Spray:
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Buckler Shield:
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Taser/Flashlight
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Tactical Pen (Kubaton that writes lol)
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Ryan Hoovers Aperture Self Defense Umbrella
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Tonfa
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[@SenseiSeth]

If you like the cool weapons in this video, you can find links for them in the description! Thanks for watching!

[@masterlesstheband]

The subliminal subscribe message is pretty funny 😄

[@SenseiSeth]

Lol thanks! Had to censor mike

[@poker5r360]

How about your shoe I saw this one guy in my Boyscout camp protect his self by using his as a weapon before we helped him

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahaha

[@windwhistle3713]

The whole way through its "the average person" but gun is A but requires so much training? FightTips did a great video a few days ago about how empty hands can be better than a gun in certain situations but, again, not for the average user...

[@Lyr00]

They rated the belt wrong. It’s not only physical pain but also emotional, cause they’ll remember the whipping from their dad

[@paulo9h]

Yeah, triggering PTSD sounds like a good strategy

[@drinkapaint3305]

@@paulo9h underrated comment

[@vksasdgaming9472]

Singham is master of belt. He always belts the bad guys after taking them out with his magnificent palm hits.

[@remen_emperor]

I'm going to be guessing that a good amount of people the average person would need to defend themselves against wouldn't know what it's like to have one

[@rondoiron6907]

Not on the kids nowadays

[@thekilas4471]

Imagine someone gives you a hard time and in a minute you step of you car wearing helmet, shield in one hand, flashlight in another

[@SenseiSeth]

hahahaha

[@reptilesgamers00]

Your appearance might diffuse the situation lol

[@smallone2351]

With boss fight music playing in the background

[@fabianpeace6356]

No leg protection and break your legs with a Bo staff

[@hawtsauce2471]

Sabaton blasting from the car

[@elduderino4305]

It's good that he really takes laws into consideration. I defended myself with a shovel when I was 15 years old, hit the wrong spot. Now I'm 28 , can't get a good job, a fishing license, or own a firearm. I never had the option to go to college, join the military, or get a passport.

[@lasagnasux4934]

Same. Hit a guy with a crowbar at 12. I get off parole in 2 years at 31. Although I am looking into a pardon so I can join the military.

[@Terra_Lopez]

@@lasagnasux4934 Woah, I'm so sorry! Your story is really sobering and sad. 🙏

[@shaebrown2872]

Holy shit if your telling the truth those Laws are fucked

[@RikanBeastly]

When self defense turns into self harm in a different way. Sorry this happened to you guys and i wish the best for you

[@routeterror1236]

I guess that’s why lawyers, retired law enforcement, former prosecutors, etc. always say to remain silent and ask for an attorney anytime you ever have to use a weapon on another person to defend yourself. Some attorney’s have even gone a step further in videos and have implied that you don’t even need to call 911 at all in the first place after you have defended yourself and that you have no obligation to. How much of that part is true is beyond me, I just hope I never have to find out

[@j-don5228]

I feel like an underrated factor for these is intimidation factor. Pulling out a knife isn't your best bet, but *nobody* wants to get into a fight with someone with a knife unless their own life is on the line (in which case, it's no longer self defense).

[@barrywhite1770]

Exactly. You pull out a knife and a lot of people would back off and be like “ok this ain’t that serious.” Depends on the situation.

[@anomitas]

Yup guaranteed to get cut so no one wants to be in that situation

[@Undoing88]

Wisdom 💡

[@TheWutangclan1995]

If the knife is the karambit, only option left is to run.

[@PinkManGuy]

It's also a MASSIVE gamble that instantly raises the stakes of self defense. What happens when someone strikes you from behind and manages to repossess your knife?

[@bonerpants7203]

"If he doesn't care about pepper spray, you were done either way" True statement

[@MrParkerman6]

I put pepper spray on my eggs. It is delicious! It won't phase me! I have developed a tolerance.

[@MrCmon113]

I think I would have a better chance continuing an attack with pepper in the air than I would have with a hole in my head. But I'm not a doctor or anything.

[@jasonallgood2122]

the only thing about pepper spray is it's environment dependent. can't use in a enclosed space (use in a elevator would be a example), and you are at the mercy of the wind to deploy effectively. also yes. if a person doesn't care about pepper spray they could have a immunity built up for it. bear mace might be more effective.

[@the1009998]

@@MrCmon113 true true. Though the average person without practice would have a pretty abysmal hit rate with a hand gun

[@TheKyleMark]

@@jasonallgood2122 bear mace is actually WAY WAY less potent than good commercial pepper spray, because bears have noses that make bloodhounds look like people. So it’s a giant cloud of what we’d consider mild OC spray, versus a smaller spay or squirt of hellfire. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to take a face full of bear spray before a fight, but if I had to pick I take the bear spray every day over the Fox labs stuff I carry.

[@smac919]

It’s funny that a taser is basically like a magic spell that electrocutes people, and it also has a hit rate, just like a spell in a game lol

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahah that’s sick

[@saintmayhem9873]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

[@ABCDEF-uz9fd]

@@saintmayhem9873 yall out here shocking people for fun? 😂

[@saintmayhem9873]

@@ABCDEF-uz9fd heavens no! ... only on the weekends.

[@MrParkerman6]

*shocks, dumbass. Electrocute literally means to put to death by Electricity. Most Tasings aren't lethal. Without death you aren't electrocuted. You are shocked, dumbass.

[@ElliotTPham]

Sword and shield being the only ones in the same tier is perfect.Those two are like brothers. They've had other friends, of course, Shield's been paired with just about anything you can use in one hand and Sword had that brief affair with Dagger, but at the end of the day, these two will always be best friends.

[@gohankugohanku8553]

Thoroughly time tested throughout the history of mankind.

[@thiagorodrigues5211]

Mace joins the chat

[@Semiotichazey]

Props for Mike's "ubiquitous analog" Also, I pretty much agreed with everything he said. Brass knuckles are 100% brutal but if you're strapping those on, make sure you have a good lawyer. For self-defense, draw speed and legality are huge. Big omission: beer bottle

[@shayboual1892]

My problem with brass knuckles is that it doesn't improve your ability to land strikes significantly like a ranged weapon. If ur attacker has a ranged weapon or is a better fighter than you then u might just not land any strikes and in that situation its useless

[@solvemproblerstudios5889]

Totally agreed on the bottle- soda is even better because its legal in public. Seems like it’s pretty good- ok blunt weapon and good stabbed if shattered

[@Shrapnel82]

Where does a rock rate on the list? "S tier" - David "Totally broken. OP. Plz nerf" - Goliath

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahahaha

[@mango1570]

Yo a flashlight is S tier. Campers: *I see this as an absolute win*

[@mootieman]

For realz made me spit some coffee out :)

[@nosajimiki5885]

"Can't be S tier because of legal precedent, but a solid A tier." - Kane

[@erikhagler3500]

@@mango1570 DOUCHEBAG MIKE was actually right about this though

[@michaeljohnson8329]

Seth called it "empty hand" to trick Mike into giving karate such a high rank

[@SenseiSeth]

😉

[@hannawithoutthe_h]

Seth your comedic timing is very good! For editing and in person! Gets me every time. Thanks for these!

[@kendallgaj7834]

Obviously now we need to see a list for combinations of weapons now! I look forward to tactical whip in one hand and shield in the other.

[@zexfafa2794]

Roman slaver

[@Carpatouille]

Baton + shield would probably be the most useful one, otherwise it wouldn't be spread worldwide for police

[@bendadestroyer]

Tri-weilding helmets.

[@micktrinus]

I like how when they talked about swords, they considered the world as a whole, but then they completely forgot about that with baseball bats and bo staffs.

[@bobross3880]

And a steel fucking chair LOL

[@fritzhamburg1785]

A klisheè of an american way to see.

[@zodiacthriller6094]

I haven't seen people in 3rd world countries carry a bat or a bo staff

[@EricRamz]

Well even in 3rd world countries the sword is better than bats

[@fritzhamburg1785]

@@EricRamz But it's not a thing that you find often there. Maximal as a decoration. I think the chance of getting one is important too. An example if you get a blade in america it will be probably a machete. In Europe and asian are more variied swordtypes. I would prefer the europe one. Even if they are heavier and are more often for battle against other equipped persons, they have a higher durablity and when dulling you can still hack instead of slicing. But i dont have an average figure so it could vary for you, because the europe one are often a bit heavier.

[@bendover3112]

I love how better than nothing is D but nothing is A

[@Koshmar-13]

I get the joke but the precedent was weapons in an average persons hands. and the "empty hand" was stated as learning how to fight. Not sayin I particularly agree with this list, but I see what they were getting at.

[@joejoelesh1197]

Nothing with training = A Better than nothing in the hands of average guy (no training) = D

[@dakota.lakoduk]

This comment made me laugh an unreasonable amount

[@jaimemartin6704]

Always have it with you. Legal in NJ.. yea, I like it :).

[@Diogenes2077]

@@joejoelesh1197 but does a belt become an s, if you trained to use it for self defense?

[@jonasmartincruz383]

Hitting with the tip of a (kali) stick is the correct way of using it for both offense and defense (full swing disarming). The middle part of the stick is used for blocking. But good review. Kudos to both.

[@matthewwoods632]

Been trying to justify getting a *good* flashlight. This helped lol. Also recently took up martial arts and whenever the effectiveness of weapons gets brought up I like to try to focus on their context: historically it’s what was available and legal at the time, trying to say that they are *just as effective* now is claiming that times haven’t changed in either aspect. Their current usefulness is in applying open-handed techniques and, like you guys said, being able to grab any similar object in a pinch and be proficient enough to hold someone off. Thanks for the great video.

[@DanielBernardo42]

The invisible rock on Mike's hand made me think that maybe some martial arts are supposed to represent the use of a rock instead mimicking animal claws.

[@SenseiSeth]

woaaah

[@hard2hurt]

Mind blown

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Interesting thought.

[@stanleylee5358]

Wow

[@victorsrur134]

hold a rock while you punch,more weight and pressure= more power

[@MeerkatMotorBoards]

Did you hear about the guy that accidentally put his throwing stars through the dryer?...They were shrunken

[@SenseiSeth]

Yiiikes lkl

[@DEasy411]

I'm a ninja for hire. My boss was like "can you take care of this job" and I was like Shur-I-can 🤪

[@JA-re8gi]

I'm gonna use that on those skanks.

[@carlolabitan7909]

I legit enjoyed this one. Thanks man :)

[@chopstick1671]

Would you change the ranking of a bo-staff if you use it like a quarterstaff? The way quarterstaves are generally used (held by the lower third) can generate quite a bit of power, with the downside of it needing more space. Back in medieval times the quarterstaff was a very popular self defense weapon for peasants, would be fun to explore more about its effectivity in the modern day.

[@BaconSizzleWasTaken]

hard2hurt in the medieval era: challenging to wound

[@Waitingnomad]

Their ranking for staffs is just wrong tbf, like Mike saying having a staff messes up wrestling when the opposite is true; and saying that it can't generate much power when it can easily cave someone's skull in one hit. Maybe they're talking about those super lightweight bendy wushu kind of staffs? But any one made from actual solid wood is objectively super lethal.

[@dilophosaurussk4333]

"Flashlight, S tier" *Happy Guardsman noises*

[@Epotheros]

Especially one of those heavy ass full sized 1980s models.

[@peyotepete4903]

Flashlight taser tho? Unexpected shocking experience

[@aratay3117]

Still tyranid food

[@danieldelacruz1279]

Bruh this list can’t be accurate😭😭

[@zeppelincraft1443]

Inquisitor: DID YOU SAY TWIN STAGED CYCLONIC TORPEDO???

[@francisp171]

The rock ,the most versatile weapon since the beginning of time , expendable,painful , throwable and easily found , plus the weapon of choice of a biblical brother.

[@MrParkerman6]

..but rocks are easibly blockable and easy to counter.

[@francisp171]

@@MrParkerman6 ever tried ........big rock ?

[@pieterlindeque7798]

@@MrParkerman6 Have someone throw a proper large building brick at you as hard as they can. Not that low density cinder block shit, like a solid red brick. I wouldn't try to block that with any part of my body honestly. Better to move out of the way because it's gonna numb or break whatever it hits. In my country South Africa people kill each other with bricks quite often. Like a modern day stoning to death.

[@jt0n]

even if they said jehova?

[@joeabib]

Eeh, there’s too much paper in the modern world to rely on rock.

[@jesterscupcake]

I'm trained on some of these like the batons, pr-24, and taser. I think it would be super interesting to see an opinion on different types of tasers, specifically the stun type that must be manually inserted versus the projectile one. One of the biggest things people struggle with in my experience is properly judging the drop from the weight of the projectile in their aiming, leading to shots that miss or are far too high or low. Without both prongs in, it will still provide a shock, but to disable, you want a good spread from generally the shoulder down across the back towards right above the hip. Super fascinating and really enjoyed your thoughts. I'm very interested in that tactical whip, looks bananas.

[@yank3656]

thanks for sharing Sensei Seth

[@mattmcahhwhy8937]

If Sensei Seth for any reason stops being a sensei, he should become an assassin. He was killing me with these jokes today.

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahaha bam, that was a good joke yourself!

[@Downhaven]

They were great.

[@SenseiSeth]

😂😂 thanks!

[@Somebodyuprobsknow]

I’m a Fma student and Kali sticks are just representations of a sword so I’m not offended about the ranking of the Kali Sticks. Good video 👍🏻

[@stinkygoat2686]

My dad used to wear a motorcycle chain as a belt and he use that as his weapon of choice back in the day. Ripping that thing off and snapping it like a whip got people to leave him alone a few times hes told me haha

[@CarsNstuff5066]

“DUDE YOU CAN TOAT A FU-subscribe HELMET” 😂😂😂

[@SenseiSeth]

Hahaha glad you caught that!

[@concernedliberal4453]

Gives steel chair a C grade Every pro wrestler ever: HOW DARE YOU!!!

[@4philipp]

The steel bar stool is where I draw a line. The fight is fair until that moment and I intervene. Of course I also fight dirty ;)

[@taragnor]

Honestly it came out way higher than expected. Hell, the steel chair is above a baseball bat for some reason.

[@Andrew-it7fb]

It's always amused me that they call aluminum chairs steel.

[@hugopelletier-guenette9054]

Love the quick and subtle subscibe you said at 7:52 xD Gotta love subliminal stuff

[@juliaeastbourne6310]

Belts were the number 1 weapons English and Welsh street gangs in the 1970`s. My old physics teacher, a tough Welshman, had his belt confiscated by the police. He had sharpened the edge of the buckle with a grinder. The media even complained about the danger posed by certain styles of trouser belt.

[@KobyMathews]

"I don't carry an umbrella because I'm an adult man"😂😂

[@SenseiSeth]

😂😂

[@xiryzdeedeasis8184]

Are guys supposed to become waterproof after the age of 18 or something?

[@KobyMathews]

@@xiryzdeedeasis8184 no we're just not afraid of a little rain lol

[@SenorJuan2023]

Real men do what they want (as long as it's legal/moral) and don't give a rat's ash what others think.

[@MCSPARTAN501]

Adult men don't carry umbrellas? Tell that to the Kingsmen lol

[@HarvestMoonHowl]

Oh, wow! I carry my professional wrestling title belt and my steel chair with me, wherever I go! I can't attest to how well they actually work as self defense weapons, though. And I can't figure out why everyone keeps staring...

[@SenseiSeth]

let em stare lol

[@horscategorie]

It is the rubber band hanging from your nose pinned with a safety pin dude...

[@eeurr1306]

@@horscategorie im confused.

[@The_Viscount]

I think intimidation is worth considering as a factor for deterring potential assault as well.

[@YourFavoriteLibertarian]

There is something to be said about the rock. The most convenient fact is that they are pretty much everywhere you go so you don't even have to carry them. Downside is, if you are fighting someone and find a rock, they can also find a rock. Looks like the odds just evened up!

[@brandonmoore7952]

Try headbutting someone with a helmet!!! I have, works like a charm!

[@SenseiSeth]

I've seen the evidence

[@MrCmon113]

Why wouldn't it work if they are not wearing a helmet?

[@eeurr1306]

@@MrCmon113 You should think a bit more before asking such a dumb question, but ill still explain it to you. A normal headbutt can hurt and is not that easy to perform with a helmet you dont get hurt and it hurts your opponent more so you dont need to use a good technique.

[@Downhaven]

You can carry a sword in Texas. We don't do excuses.

[@SenseiSeth]

Sounds like Texas 😂😂

[@soldierx345]

I believe you can get a license for it in WA as well

[@SenseiSeth]

Dang lol

[@tylerrobbins8311]

Cries in Californian 😭

[@PracticalMinimalist]

Tyler Robbins technically california can open carry a sword. There’s no state law saying a max length of a fixed blade... so as long as its open carry 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

I love my tonfa, and my knives. The non weapon environments I also love, short stick with a triangular shaft and a point, flashlight, hatchet, walking stick/Bo staff, are all awesome.

[@jtelevenoyd1571]

Love the video. I still wonder about tee-ball bats and child-size cricket bats.

[@brycekeeney4995]

Everyone watch the whole video for our homies Seth and Mike

[@SenseiSeth]

ayeee thank you!

[@SenseiSeth]

@UCJmoIMs__5YH112JnUg98cw you a real one

[@regalisexa3869]

Always do my man, always do👌

[@SenseiSeth]

Ayee

[@jedmcdonald4695]

I finish them. I just tend to want to comment three times before the end because my life has shrunk like a college students T-shirt in the first attempt at laundry.

[@ThatGuy-ou4ev]

A lot of people seem to forget how effective loud screaming in a densely populated area is.

[@aratay3117]

Look up the phenomena "bystander effect" screaming for help could work but definitely shouldn't be the only plan you have

[@jonahpatton8879]

Kathrine Genovese

[@tghooker5123]

That should probably be the first defense for a woman, then mace.

[@edstringer1138]

Are you curling in a ball and peeing and crapping yourself while screaming so the non helping observers are at least filming on thier phones ?

[@Rasmus_Ai]

Seth.. I really enjoy your videos. Good content and always a touch of humor. I was rofl at the subliminal "subscribe" message in this video :D Thanks. Best wishes

[@gpop444]

You guys are awesome

[@toonamelts]

My man threw in a subliminal “subscribe” when they’re talking about the helmet 😂😂

[@diynevala]

made me want to unsub.

[@SenseiSeth]

It was a censor

[@fbiagent2848]

“Is that a sword in your pants or...” hahaha

[@SenseiSeth]

haha had to

[@0rolon]

If I had never watched hard2hurt, I would almost think that Icy Mike was a stable and sane individual.

[@A6GYT]

Of course I’m gonna stick up for it since I practice Eskrima/Kali but an average person getting hit with a stick could very easily shatter their bones. A lot of our strikes are focused on the collar bone and the forearm which are fragile getting hit my one just with light contact HURTS. And the skills are very interchangeable between anything single handed. so I’d put them a bit higher but each to their own

[@DavidSertile]

I know Seth's seen the Shane Fazen flashlight-expandable-baton, and I'd like to see Icy Mike's opinion on it

[@SenseiSeth]

I did! Go look at the top comment

[@dr.doppeldecker3832]

I once brought a Fleshlight to a fight....

[@WaffleStomper69]

"I'd rather do neither, so I learned about both." That is a great way to put this mindset.

[@JoshuaNyquist]

A nice arm shield seems like a good idea to keep in the car, kinda like a buckler but rectangular. Preferably 1/2in steel no more than 20lbs. Probably never gonna be used but the feeling of knowing you got it would be nice. Also I knew we could be best friends when you said the Bo staff was your favorite weapon.

[@y.dylanhusband8664]

Absolutely love the office line “muckduck”

[@anthonycarlisle6184]

From my experience, I disagree w/ half of their rankings, but it's interesting to hear their perspective.

[@SenseiSeth]

Nice! What’s your experience through? If you don’t mind my asking?

[@anthonycarlisle6184]

Thanks for asking Seth! My experience w/ education is w/ Chinese, Malay, & Japanese approaches to martial arts from Taichi to Battodo, through some studio and dojo works. Street exp-wise, which were my thoughts while watching the video, a bball bat goes along way. Sai, staff, collapsible baton - maybe moreso the bludgeoning weapons - I'd rank higher. Others too long to yap about in comments lol Also, a big point, on top of firearms being the modern equalizer, is how deafening even pistol rounds can be, in given environments. Firearms would be S+ b/c you don't nessacarily have to be a good shot, there's allot of offensive options if one thinks of the utility of the firearm itself. Idk, jus sayin. Thanks for calling me out :] That's legit.

[@SenseiSeth]

Haha I wasn’t calling you out! People with different backgrounds have different views!

[@anthonycarlisle6184]

Lol, I took your question as a friendly inquiry, just questioning for fun. "calling out" is probably too harsh a phrase in this context. But yeah, it's all about learning & bettering your capabilities, and ability, to achieve your goals, whatever they may be - so ultimately a candycane can turn into an offensive tool to get away from attackers if need be, the will to survive & get away will always open up opportunities if the drive is there. Just my opinion.

[@ajusino2324]

Id rather get tased for 30 seconds that watch a 5 second ad

[@SenseiSeth]

😂😂😂 dang..

[@puppetmaster1420]

Interesting priorities

[@Mukawakadoodoo]

What about getting tased for 30 seconds in the crotch.

[@kermitthefrog9322]

Imagine getting tased 1mil times for 30 sec l , could be me

[@franksmith1287]

I have had most of those. I like the Sharpshooter keychain.

[@YourFavoriteLibertarian]

Pepper spray is always underrated...until today. Proud of you guys. Gives you a little distance, easy to use, is a less than lethal option, inexpensive, socially acceptable to carry, and is easy to carry. I know people that would never shoot someone even if they were being murdered but they would make someone's face spicy without hesitation.

[@stephenschiffman5940]

Pepper spray has always been my go-to. It's small enough to have on you in your pocket, can be drawn quickly, and can disable more than 1 person in rapid succession.

[@SenseiSeth]

bam! But also possibly.. yourself included?

[@stephenschiffman5940]

@@SenseiSeth Yeah, friendly fire is definitely one of it's few drawbacks.

[@MrParkerman6]

It is also possible to develope an immunity to it.

[@dvngnt]

@@SenseiSeth what about gel?

[@mattsully5332]

I liked the discussion more than the rankings. It seemed that there was a lot of inconsistency in applying universal factors such as legality, but the discussion around each was useful.

[@TheGuitarChief]

Great video! Just curious why you guys didn't include knives in your rankings?

[@mercedesplay_more_kof8488]

I wish Mike had expounded on the legality and elevation in lethality of guns vs other options even in the same tier. I imagine it seems like common sense to someone like him who engages with the topic so much, but the escalation from pepper spray to a gun is massive and I seldom feel the average Joe appreciates that. Probably an unfortunate side effect of it being an afterthought for the list. Always super enlightening to hear both of y’all’s perspectives on this stuff.

[@stephenalworth2103]

Since seeing you appear on Hard2Hurt your channel has offered me an obsurd amount of entertainment, while also being insightful.

[@SenseiSeth]

Awh man, that makes me super happy to hear. Thanks bro!!

[@theaverageitaliandon998]

This was a great video, next time I go out I’ll bring out ye old crusading sword

[@SenseiSeth]

haha whatever it takes

[@petersmythe6462]

I did a test with an old bike helmet. It doesn't reliably stop lead free airgun pellets or even just the plastic casings (these actually make a giant exit wound). Foam is good against blunt weapons but blades and high speed projectiles may get through it pretty easily. That being said, maybe it would cause them to lose a lot of energy. And if it's carbon, that might actually stop a knife.

[@rewrose2838]

Did Mike just casually sing the NES Balloon Fight tune with the word "gun" ? Subscribed, very talent

[@nikolab.4065]

Thank both you and Mike for recognizing the true value of the kali sticks, it's the most recognition I've seen from any modern martial artist. Yes, you won't carry sticks everywhere, but you will train with them.

[@SenseiSeth]

I like the concept of them... But the sticks themselves not as much, which makes sense

[@nikolab.4065]

@@SenseiSeth Well for the really dedicated like myself, there's all sorts of "sticks" you can train with that can bring the power which the sticks are lacking as mentioned in the vid. Metal pipes/hardwood sticks, training swords, or any other weighted stick, are the prime example, as they weigh as much as a sword/machete would (which FMA was intended for in the first place), they are safer than a sword to train with since they're not sharp, they have better power to actually hurt someone if you DO manage to find a pipe or something of similar weight and shape in the streetz, and if nothing else, they're just very useful fitness devices to give you the strength to be able to use the heavy hitting weapons that can actually hurt your assailant, or if you're a fitness fanatic, just as a weight lifting device. 😂

[@blazer-mp2rq]

I have a couple steel Escrimas and after training with them I can say they definitely wear you down if you’re not used to them. The amount of damage they could do if you hit someone with one would be crazy enough to the point where I’ve told myself I’m not carrying those things around as I’d rather not kill someone on the off chance of me actually using them as a self defense weapon. They’d be amazing for assault for sure but self defense... not so much 😂😂😂 I have aluminum ones for that. Still weighted just nowhere near as much as the steel ones.

[@nikolab.4065]

@@blazer-mp2rq Well don't carry them around to beat people up, just train with them. Boost your natural strength too in case you don't find a weapon for street defense. And if practice with heavier stuff, anything lighter than that will be a peace of cake to use. The Romans used training weapons that were double the weight of the actual weapons. And yes, they can wear you down if you're not careful. I suggest doing real short range (corto) when striking with them. Medium range at best. And if you can get a tire setup, strike the tire.

[@alekskristi5268]

agreed. kali sticks themselves are not the EDC, but the skill gained from them is. i kinda agree on the heavier sticks, because in my opinion the regular stick is much lighter than your machete/bolo would be, its easier to transfer the skill from a metal pipe of the same length and weight as the sword. that being said, rattan is better for sparring as it's more flexible and durable

[@Meloncholymadness]

Have to disagree on a few of these, especially a knife. I mean, they've literally been proven as effective for thousands of years...

[@luisalamedaluna4067]

I know, especially as an amateur boxer that got stabbed by some dudes that have no idea about fighting. You're only defense against a knife Is running

[@luisalamedaluna4067]

Btw, no, I am not able to box. I hope I eventually will

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@luisalamedaluna4067 Exactly, I would much prefer to fight even a well trained boxer, than a man with a knife! It's likely you're going to get cut... There's really no way of defending yourself safely..

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@luisalamedaluna4067 Sorry to hear that, I haven't been stabbed, but in Barcelona on a trip, two Moroccans jumped me and held a knife to my throat.

[@longusdickus4872]

Yeah hard to use a multiple stabs to the stomach or chest in close range is unlockable

[@alizhear6819]

My favorite is Empty hand training, its always there, hard to disable, fun to train and build a strong Self-trust.

[@mistert791979]

Plus, it is the ONLY one of these that deploys instantly; despite what dummy Mike says. Nothing else does. Every other tool takes time to take out (unless you are holding it already, of course)

[@IsaVulpes]

Thanks for the video! Was a lot of fun to watch. Where would you place sap gloves (weighted-knuckle gloves)? They're protection, while also allowing you to attack harder, ideally already on (no time spent to pull them out), can't be taken away, and double as.. gloves (functional even outside of self defense scenarios). On the other hand, they're not extremely useful if you have no idea how to throw a punch, and the legality of them for non-security professionals is .. shaky. Does "A" sound about right? Or lower?

[@n.p.c.gaming1426]

My teacher used to beat us with sticks and whips in school. And let me tell you a whip is no joke. A half ass whip hurts worse than getting beaten by a stick.(its apparently leagal in my country)

[@SenseiSeth]

Ouch.. the hecj

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Whips are the Truth.

[@danb6122]

@@UnexpectedWonder bull whip dam

[@neothesnake5600]

Used to get whipped with willow branches.... would leavethin cuts and bruises for weeks, and if they had those annoying little knots/bumps on them you'd get your skin scraped off. Damn, 7-11 year olds were just cruel when it came to bullying.

[@maddog_majima9553]

Jackie Chan: where's my ladder

[@Scotty_Does_Know]

Hi sensei, big fan! Wondering what you think of the Chuck Norris System martial arts? Thinking of joining but wanted to hear if you heard anything good about it? Thanks!

[@nogunshin9114]

Hey Seth , new guy here ! Loving these three vids ! ! Can I please formally challenge the old bald guy to a fight ? - K

[@petezel]

Two top lads, solid video and excellent considerations made. Basically a gift to the peaceful citizen, thanks a lot guys! I have a question for you guys: flashlight, with a tactical whip tail? Loses the lethal close quarters tip, but it's useful and gives some ranger to an otherwise zero distance striking device. You could retain the tip by making the light source shine perpendicular to the handle, with some work.

[@SenseiSeth]

Thank you my friend!!

[@ngreene8464]

21:31 No one: Not a single soul: Icy Mike: gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun gun

[@SenseiSeth]

lol

[@jeffreyzhai5586]

Actually the correct term for “gun” would be a hand held combustion based projectile launching device.

[@ngreene8464]

Blank hmmmm indeed

[@kobiesboxing4956]

Icy Mike was reciting lyrics to that new gun song. What's it called, "Guns, Guns, and More Guns".

[@dingdove1]

Some weapons rated low can be great depending on the specific type. A projectile tazer is only good once, but a stun gun, especially built into a flashlight, can be great. It would be nice to see a video that ranks weapons worth training with, not just good without training.

[@TailRunnerOPSpec]

Wouldn't it also matter depending on the state of defense? Intimidation works on would-be attackers that didn't premeditate violence. You're allowed to carry swords in home, so their effectiveness increases in terms of home-based defenses. Staffs are incredibly potent at range and a single attack *would* cripple an attacker

[@cymric4984]

I feel like baton should be higher, it's really easy to break bone with a good baton and some basic training

[@thebigspook]

shout out to my man for mentioning HEMA

[@SenseiSeth]

ayee

[@TheWabbitSeason]

I love the shield is a I.33 buckler. They are great for offense and defense.

[@brianzimmerman4837]

Weak hand knives are a great option if you carry a combustion based projectile launcher. Like if you get grappled or pinned in a way where you can't deploy your rooty tooty, a small boi to gouge into the side of someone on top of you can get them off of you. Then you deploy the rooty tooty.

[@BBE22OOOWH]

A helmet def works. My dad used one when he had it in his hands and knocked the guy out cold. The other one got scared and left

[@SenseiSeth]

ouch

[@mndeg]

how? using one hand? i feel like it would be pretty hard to hit someone with that. its far slower than a cross.

[@formoney5255]

The firearm is the absolute KING of deterrents. I've drawn a handgun for self defence four times, and each time that alone has ended the self defence senario, without having to even use it. The vast majority of people with the intent to do you harm will Immidieatly cease upon seeing the firearm.

[@destynova4512]

Right only time I ever had to draw my gun dude ran away without me having to fire a shot. Most people really don't want to be shot. Usually the sight of a gun is enough to deter a would be criminal.

[@hamzadesidragonsarwar]

Not if you know Krav Maga they train in how to disarm guns

[@horscategorie]

@@hamzadesidragonsarwar Yeah - I hear Krav Maga schools are popping up all over Baltimore...because... well... gun crime...

[@formoney5255]

@@hamzadesidragonsarwar lol

[@minhducnguyen674]

@@hamzadesidragonsarwar Funny. The guys who train to use Krav Maga (the Israeli army) to survive rarely need to use it. I wonder whether if it's because they have guns, both in quality and quantity?

[@NonsenseOblige]

Check out videos of fights in Brazil, you'll often see delivery people take off their helmet and use it as a weapon. There's even a video from a self defense gym here called Kaveira specifically about defending yourself against a motorcycle helmet.

[@Soulssl4yer]

7:53 duuude, I was wearing my pods, that scared me so freaking much😂

[@Draalnexa]

can you smell it? can you smell what the rock is cooking?

[@SenseiSeth]

Easily C tier, I broke him

[@nickbutler9831]

You didnt take into the intimidation factor that weapons can present. If i have a knife and want to attack someone, and they have a sword, i wouldn't mess with them. Just something i thought you should know

[@SenseiSeth]

If you have a knife someone may feel it’s time to pull out their gun. But we did mention that in a different video though, good point

[@White_Night_Demon]

​@@SenseiSeth Imagine that...simply scaring a knife wielder away when you have a bigger knife on your hand..... "You call that a knife? *This* is a knife...."

[@kasperpettersson1804]

The only weapon needed for any type of attack is a long knife. You don’t stand a chance no matter what weapon you’ve. (If they use the surprise factor)

[@White_Night_Demon]

@@kasperpettersson1804 so basically a sword then? Need a sword to defend yourself?

[@kermitthefrog9322]

@@SenseiSeth imagine i later pull out a bazoca

[@elduderino4305]

On the tactical whip idea, a friend of mine who was an army infantry vet, always swore by a three foot length of rubber hose. He cut up a hundred foot hose and stashed them everywhere so there was always one in reach.

[@Okanserin]

Karambit,maybe a little extreme but one of the coolest weapons for me.🔥🔥

[@BrianNichol]

3:13 - when there’s a sound and you guys both turn and look 👀 like 😠 wtf! 😂 that was great 👍 lol

[@SenseiSeth]

MADDOX! Lol

[@kobiesboxing4956]

They both had that look on their face like come on man. We're trying to make a damn video.

[@bunnieseatliverspots]

Mike had it right when he said the Kali stick is an analog for the machete. It’s a training tool. It translates into weapons like the gijo stick and other hardwood weapons - and especially a bladed weapon.

[@SenseiSeth]

thats dope!

[@Tutorp]

Yeah. When they came to the Kali sticks, my immediate question was "rattan or hardwood?" I wouldn't want to be hit by a hardwood Kali stick, but a rattan stick is meant to be a relatively safe training weapon. I've ended up blocking a few hard shots with my forearm during stick sparring (wearing only helmets and gloves for protection), and they don't do much more than leave a bruise.

[@HUVideoer]

I have the light rattan sticks for training. They hurt but thats all. But my 2 heavy sticks are different. They hit like a police baton.

[@labbyshepherdpuppy5943]

For real, hardwood ain’t no joke. I’m not even sure it’s a self defense weapon because how destructive it can be

[@Andrew-it7fb]

@@Tutorp that was my thought too. I have a set of kamagong sticks, and you really don't want to get hit by them.

[@TheOneAndOnlyTed]

I can feel those whips from here. I imagine it's some what similar to an extension cord and even just accidentally getting hit can hurt. Sent tingles all over my body just thinking about it.

[@bohd3]

The fun thing with Shuriken and similar small, sharp weapons. They seem to have been primarily a method of delivering poison. You peg someone with a shuriken smeared in waste and run away. Even with antibiotics, they're going to have a bad time.

[@andrewboardman2654]

Where did pocket sand come from??? I want to know the ranking! Also metsubushi!

[@SenseiSeth]

hahaha i had to cut it for time!

[@MrParkerman6]

I hate sand. It's Course and ruff and gets everywhere.

[@googleisacruelmistress1910]

A flashlight > Knowing how to fight ~ icy Mike 2020

[@SenseiSeth]

Don't think he meant it to be quite that simple. He mentions plenty of times how if you don't know how to fight, most of these aren't very effective for long

[@dimitriisov1262]

You should do one ranking weapon fighting styles, HEMA, Kyudo, Kendo, Kali, etc...

[@travisbarstow9279]

I think it all depends on how much training and background you have with it. For me I would prefer a knife for being flexible and easy to carry. And you can carry a extra one to throw which would really give you the edge just by getting in your adversaries head if you sink it.

[@bluepvp900]

I feel like that's a good point made about the usefulness of knives in a fight. On one hand, it's a very useful tool to have in your pocket when you aren't fighting and so is likely to be at hand. On the other hand, unless you're actually planning to commit to possibly deadly effect it isn't going to be much use in a confrontation. That's why the taser and pepper spray are so good, no one goes to the morgue and they are very useful in confrontations. It seems like the confidence that comes from gaining skill in hand to hand techniques is what really sets it apart as probably the best self defense choice, and if the situation calls for something more pepper spray would be my next choice. Thanks for the discussion, it's a good thing to have given some thought to.

[@CaneFu]

You have no idea what you're talking about as a knife is an extremely effective self defense tool. I have seen several people defend themselves with a knife without ever spilling a drop of blood.

[@Serrifin]

@@CaneFu I don’t think they’re taking intimidation into account, I think it’s just straight combat situations, but I also think they change what they’re measuring by in the video, and even the I would rate it higher.

[@CaneFu]

@@Serrifin Right and intimidation should ALWAYS be the first step...the police use it every single day just by pointing their guns at people and it works the vast majority of the time without ever pulling the trigger. Even nations use it as Putin is currently using intimidation with his nukes to keep America from directly assisting Ukraine with our military. Intimidation WORKS more often than not and I really get tired of these self appointed "experts" trying to say that it has no value when we all know better.

[@martinwarrick8757]

In Australia E is a fail we don’t use F because the word “fail” is too negative apparently

[@SenseiSeth]

Lolol In the states E means Excellent

[@yo-no9879]

You that fight in Young Justice with Bowhunter Security vs Brick using flashlights suddenly makes a lot more sense.

[@-whackd]

I have gotten into shooting arrows from my slingshot. Sometimes this is incorrectly referred to as a slingbow, even though there is no bow. You can take your flat band slingshot and some ammo in your back pocket and shoot rabbits anywhere. If you carry some arrows, you can take large game.