Ranking The 40 CRPGs I've Reviewed

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Mortismal Gaming

Mortismal Gaming

Күн бұрын

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@mnd92
@mnd92 Жыл бұрын
Tyranny being abandoned will haunt me forever. The world and lore were incredible, and it ended with so many unresolved questions about the mysteries of the archons and the overlord that is just criminal to leave it in the dust. Really hope that paradox will sell the ip one day and let the franchise continue
@kolosmenus
@kolosmenus Жыл бұрын
Tyranny was easily the best CRPG of the decade in my opinion. The only issue was the abrupt and slightly railroaded ending, if you stayed loyal to Kyros throughout the entire game.
@rustle495
@rustle495 Жыл бұрын
Things not being explained fully is what made the lore good. Much like Tolkien did not explain everything and left it up to imagination. Going in-depth about archons and Kairos can ruin it just as well as it can make it better. Could get something very underwhelming like PoE gods, where by the end of PoE2 they are just bickering children who cant solve their own problems.
@fastsnake
@fastsnake Жыл бұрын
I think the ip belongs to Obsidian as the developer rather than paradox as the external distributer... Doubt we will ever see a sequel anyway.
@NeoConker626
@NeoConker626 Жыл бұрын
​@@rustle495 you misspelled Divinity OS2
@IReallyDontKnowWhatToEnterHere
@IReallyDontKnowWhatToEnterHere Жыл бұрын
@@rustle495 I loved the bickering gods bits lol.
@EnQuestOfficial
@EnQuestOfficial Жыл бұрын
Super unique rankings, don't think anyone else would have these particular games in this order. I like it when ranked lists like this are personalized. Makes it more interesting imo
@vncntrgr
@vncntrgr Жыл бұрын
Damn it, people, the YT comments section is here for hyperbole and entrenched hissy fits, not civilised discourse respection the opinions of others.
@ducky36F
@ducky36F Жыл бұрын
It’s great it makes it feel more honest.
@szarywilk489
@szarywilk489 Жыл бұрын
The title of this video should be -"Do you want to grow your cRPG pile of shame even bigger? This is how to do it!". Great video, thanks, the list is sorted pretty much as I would rank it (at least for those that I played). One game that I would definitely rank higher is Solasta - it really gives you this rare tabletop vibe. I am really happy to see Expeditions Rome in TOP 10, really deserves it :) The highest ranked game that I never played or played only a little is Tyranny. I loved both POE games, and tried to start Tyranny a few times, but somehow never managed to stick with it. Well, this video is a good reason to try again :)
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 Жыл бұрын
Tyranny with its abrupt ending is heartbreaking. So many things unresolved. It’s definitely in my top crpg list
@matejjakubco7853
@matejjakubco7853 Жыл бұрын
Definitively one of the best games I´ve ever played. Although I dont think that I agree with Mortismal regarding game - I dont think that we are playing as some kind of servant to evil - don´t get me wrong, Kyros is a tyrant sure, but so were many figures in our history, which are often remembered well (Alexander, Caesar etc...) and they are not called evil and those that followed them were not servants to some kind of evil. On the other hand, Kyros is the grand conqueror that (in loyalty endings I think) managed to unite whole continent and bring peace and prosperity to lands he united via force.
@tomorbataar5922
@tomorbataar5922 Жыл бұрын
@@matejjakubco7853 Well it was marketed as a world where the big bad evil won. Luckily Kyros is lawful evil, so civilization and life continues (as long as you don't go against the regime).
@mitoryninja
@mitoryninja Жыл бұрын
​@@matejjakubco7853 Yea, Ive even managed to get an "good" ending. I cant say exacly which ending because ive played it years ago but afair I managed to help rebels and havent done anything particular evil. Even in a baby situation I pleased both sides without any repercussions. In the end it was really cool because you had make an effort for good ending.
@majorgear1021
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
Is it better than Dragon Age Origins?
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 Жыл бұрын
@@majorgear1021 I’d say yes and I love DA Origins
@nqgames2954
@nqgames2954 Жыл бұрын
Dragon Age Origins holds a special place in my heart because I played it when I was 10. It was my first experience of a game with good mechanics and storytelling. (Only really played COD and games like frogger before then)
@rsk-1337
@rsk-1337 Жыл бұрын
I’m a bit older than you and grew up playing KOTOR, but DA:O was the first game I played that scratched that same itch. One of my favorite games of all time. Such incredible characters and world. Balance-wise it still cracks me up how hilariously broken mages were in that game tho 😂
@Mandrake42
@Mandrake42 Жыл бұрын
I miss Troika, Acranum, Vampire Bloodlines, Temple of Elemental Evil, they are all kind of special in their own way. Sure they always shipped with a truck load of bugs but given the way games launch these days, Troika were just ahead of their time ;)
@MarkWilson-ij9jd
@MarkWilson-ij9jd Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to be the guy who sings praises for Wasteland 3. That game is well written with a nuanced humour, really fun and diverse combat, and the world that they built is entirely believable. Since my first playthrough, I honestly have gone through this game six or seven times, and I don't regret a single thing. haha. The soundtrack is another high note, well produced and well executed on all fronts. This is a great list, by the way.
@ChadOfStats
@ChadOfStats Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying it. Especially as I can create and customise my own party members.
@RevanBC
@RevanBC Жыл бұрын
Way better than the first 2
@cdeford
@cdeford Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable game, but it was very short and I'm not sure I'd even class it as an RPG. The characters get stronger but that's about all. You don't exactly role-play them. The best part was the voice acting.
@manga3040
@manga3040 Жыл бұрын
Wasteland 3 is bug infested mess.
@prasedomaci9264
@prasedomaci9264 Жыл бұрын
I played Wasteland 2, and had fun. Still got the feeling, it got a lot of undeserved hate for not being Fallout enough, while it wasnt meant to be Fallout in the first place. So I bought W3 without much expectations. I mean, I was expecting a solid game, but also just more of the same. Nothing to write home about. Boy, was I wrong. They improved every single aspect of W2, and more. Also, that Land of Confusion cover is top tier.
@melkor9295
@melkor9295 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see the Pillars games so highly ranked! Like you, I loved the lore of the Pillars universe and the array of interesting class combinations in Pillars 2. I agree that the ending of Pillars 2 is a let down and the core storyline could have been better. But there was so much amazing side content and Eora is absolutely my favourite fantasy setting. Its so disappointing that Pillars 3 is not happening. I think that Eothas breaking the wheel creates so many interesting questions that would be amazing to explore in a new storyline. For now, I just hope Avowed will be a success and perhaps that could eventually lead to a Pillars 3 revival!
@Wft-bu5zc
@Wft-bu5zc Жыл бұрын
Pillars 2 gameplay is so damn fun. The main story is eh, but the dialogue is good, side quests are fun, and combat is fantastic. I've replayed the game like 10 times because of how fun the combat/classes are.
@chillax319
@chillax319 Жыл бұрын
@@Wft-bu5zc Apart from the so-so main story(though the lore in it is damn good) my only problem with the game was how much sidequests you could immedietly start after getting to Neketaka. I got overwhelmed with the, almost literal, flood of quests. And the characters friendship/romances were coming kinda out of knowhere. I had to not to talk to Xoti for a long time for her developing any feelings for the Watcher to make sense for me. I think the game would benefit if more quests and content was getting unlocked instead of being dropped at you from the get-go.
@otakarlojkasek488
@otakarlojkasek488 Жыл бұрын
@@chillax319 Story in PoE 2 is quite clearly made as a part between the end of the trilogy and it serves well. It is sad that the third part won´t be here for some time...
@vezeveer
@vezeveer Жыл бұрын
@@Wft-bu5zc Same here. I replayed the game so many times especially POE1
@tekelupharsin4426
@tekelupharsin4426 Жыл бұрын
Divinity Original Sin 2 is my favorite game of all time. It has such a charm to it that is difficult to explain, especially in Acts 1 & 2.
@hugo7946
@hugo7946 Жыл бұрын
I've looked and looked and found nothing of that level
@Exilitate
@Exilitate Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed A1. A2 slowly got worse over time, and by A3, I was beyond bored and the maps and quest lines felt terrible in comparison.
@DenienN
@DenienN Жыл бұрын
booooooo
@Bryce433
@Bryce433 11 ай бұрын
is it still your favorite?
@magic4694
@magic4694 11 ай бұрын
fr bro ive completed that game more than 6 times and i still love to play it
@Darkholow
@Darkholow Жыл бұрын
Since I tend to value story over gameplay I have Planescape Torment and Pathfinder WoTR & Disco Elysium in my top 3 followed by BG II and NWN. Thanks for the video Mort!
@thelawyerfrommars
@thelawyerfrommars Жыл бұрын
Oh! Is Never winter nights story that good? I have BG 1, BG 2 and PS:T on Switch and was thinking about getting NWN there too to complete my Switch collection. Edit: I also value story over gameplay
@Geraduss
@Geraduss Жыл бұрын
@@thelawyerfrommars Well NWN2 story is arguably better then the first games, its more involved, the companions are at least interesting, has some in game cut-scenes and story progression. But personally I'll have to admit that I like the first game better, the story is simpler and easier to understand, big bad lizards are controlling cults to usher their return for world domination. Tho for the first game you have the two main DLC's that are their own main story segmented in to two parts that is also REALLY good, better then the main one, and shows you more of the world then the bog standard sword coast that every other game is set in.(Even tho it still starts there)
@Darkholow
@Darkholow Жыл бұрын
@@Geraduss I enjoyed NWN1 over NWN2, mainly because I really liked the fact that if you romance Aribeth there is way to continue it from the original game and into Hordes of the Underdark expansion which really solidified it for me. Mask of the Betrayer is the better expansion and story I agree, but the whole Aribeth ring part made it for me (If you know you know ;) ).
@prasedomaci9264
@prasedomaci9264 Жыл бұрын
Disco Elysium is, in my opinion, the closest you get to roleplay-heavy pen and paper RPG session with a good GM. The only game, where I ever failed on purpose, just to see, what happens. It got me completely unprepared. One of the most unique gaming experiences I had in years. In a good way. The more I think about it, DE would probably be number 2 on my list, second only to Planescape Torment. And if there ever was a spiritual successor to PT, I would say, it is this game. In any case, I really, really look forward, what else does ZA/UM have in store for us.
@underscore2554
@underscore2554 Жыл бұрын
@@prasedomaci9264 U use a lot of commas
@patricknilsson4360
@patricknilsson4360 Жыл бұрын
Baldur’s Gate saga. It was THE first game on the computer that actually felt like a P&P rpg when it was released. Wins by nostalgia alone.
@bobrong9645
@bobrong9645 Жыл бұрын
To you, and that's fine. Many people would say that some Ultima (7, if you ask me) or Fallout felt like a tabletop RPG. Me, I first tried Baldur's gate multiplayer, and I can guarantee you that it really felt like a single player CRPG with an awkward multiplayer mode and not like a computerized TT-RPG.
@patricknilsson4360
@patricknilsson4360 Жыл бұрын
@@bobrong9645 I played both games you recommend, and they are great, but as you said to me they aren't the experience that comes close to feel like a TT RPG. Baldur's Gate did. I bought it on release day and no matter how great many other games have been, they can't beat the BG saga. Note also, Saga, that means both 1 and 2 as well as the expansions.
@happyvalentine4008
@happyvalentine4008 Жыл бұрын
I've tried playing Baldurs Gate multiple times but man I just can't stand real time with pause. Turn Based Tactic RPGs like Fallout, Shadowrun, Arcanum, Divinity OS, Wasteland, and Pathfinder feel way better to play from an isometric view and given that they're often trying to replicate the feeling of a tabletop rpg it makes sense given that TTRPGs are turn based. I think real time works better on 3D games like modern fallout, Vampire, and Dragon Age. But yeah, until BG 1+2 get remastered or remake editions that add turn based combat I'll just never get into it which admittedly sucks because I want to get into Tyranny but the Real Time with Pause makes me want to throw my pc out a window.
@robertcampbell6349
@robertcampbell6349 Жыл бұрын
The beauty of the Baldur's Gate Saga is it's a great character driven game with a compelling story.
@MrDavidKord
@MrDavidKord Жыл бұрын
Real time with pause is far superior to turn based. The action is just so much tighter and faster paced, with so many more dramatic moments, and with so much use of kiting and spacing, while having almost 0 drawbacks. Think people just find it too difficult.
@mickeyB6453
@mickeyB6453 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see Neverwinter Nights 1+2 covered. I felt like nobody I knew played it, or even knew what it was. Playing some persistent world servers on NWN1 got me through most of college. It was a good time.
@Elintasokas
@Elintasokas Жыл бұрын
NWN1 is my favorite CRPG easily. I think the engine is really solid, and the combat is fun to look at with the advanced animations such as parrying and shield blocking. No other game has this.
@beanie7965
@beanie7965 Жыл бұрын
Delighted to see UnderRail so high on the list, it's a favourite of mine and the review that introduced me to the channel.
@Terron29
@Terron29 Жыл бұрын
Your top 10 or so is very interesting. My overall favorite is still BG2 but I loved it for some of the reasons that you actually didnt lol. I loved the higher level combat, all the stripping of enemy defenses etc. Adore its story/characters/atmosphere. Wrath of the righteous is probably my second favorite followed by DOS 2 and pillars 1. Great upload man.
@andreventer8973
@andreventer8973 Жыл бұрын
Age of Decadence is possibly the most unique game I have played on this list and I love the uncompromising vision of the developers. I also loved Pathfinder: Kingmaker but is strangely struggling to get into Wrath of the Righteous. I would also say that Dragon Age: Origins is a game of its time, if you played it at release you will hands-down find it the favorite in the series, it hasn't aged well.
@WilkesBarreWrestling
@WilkesBarreWrestling Жыл бұрын
Very underrated game. Always surprises me how much people tend to dislike it, but everyone's different. I for one can't get past either opening zone of Divinity Original Sins 1 or 2. The world just doesn't grip me.
@andreventer8973
@andreventer8973 Жыл бұрын
@@WilkesBarreWrestling I finished both but did not enjoy 1, DOS is strong on combat for me not story.
@anton_to_adventures
@anton_to_adventures Жыл бұрын
@@WilkesBarreWrestling me the same . I don’t understand that universe. It looks like a parody of the real fantastic universe (like LOTR or D&D Faerun, or Dragon Age , or Gothic ) . Maybe I’m just to fixed to the familiar settings , and could be more open minded .
@mberwind5395
@mberwind5395 Жыл бұрын
Check out Colony Ship, from the Age of Decadence team. It's releasing in full some time this year and is already faaaantastic.
@Elgar337
@Elgar337 Жыл бұрын
The ending of Shadowrun Returns is one of my favorite endings in any media ever (I'm talking about the last message your receive, after everything's over). The epitome of noir.
@benwilton5307
@benwilton5307 Жыл бұрын
When I read your comment, I immediately remembered the final phonecall. Lol
@motivateddad
@motivateddad Жыл бұрын
It was the best first cRPG experience I could ask for
@bartalist
@bartalist Жыл бұрын
Can you spoil me? dont think im going to play the game, but sounds interesting!
@motivateddad
@motivateddad Жыл бұрын
@@bartalist the game starts by you being hired to investigate an old friend's murder. As you went deeper and deeper, the case escalates like busting a mob boss, stopping a serial killer making a Frankenstein monster, infiltrating a cult, pulling a heist on the most powerful corps, discovering a secret inter-dimension bug invasion and your character joining a secret society of protectors of civilization to stop said invasion. But at the end of it all, the client who hired you was the murdered friend(who was just an innocent bystander who never knew about how the mess he stumbled in) never intended to pay you, and you can't do anything about it because he was a broke drug addict with nothing to his name before he was murdered.
@DerekMusic27
@DerekMusic27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering CRPGs as much as you do. I’m getting back into them pretty strong right now and your channel has helped me make decisions on what to buy next. Awesome work.
@joshbowman85
@joshbowman85 Жыл бұрын
Happy to see the Pillars games and Tyranny up so high. Tyranny is the only game I've immediately replayed as soon as I beat. Wish we'd get a sequel!
@RamssesPharaoh
@RamssesPharaoh Жыл бұрын
Solasta helped me reinvigorate my love for crpg games. WOTR is my next new favorite. I praise developers that intend to improve on known formulas without excluding newcomers... Or the casual, just-for-fun players.
@ThomasPaine01
@ThomasPaine01 Жыл бұрын
Starting in the CRPG world in 2022, Solasta is a solid "starter pack" imo. I purchased the game following this channel suggestion (the video about the best games for newcomers) and I'm enjoying it very much. Looking forward to playing Atom RPG, I find its story is right up my alley. This channel is great. Keep up the good work, Mortym!
@Dyarven
@Dyarven Жыл бұрын
You should review The Dark Eye :Drakensang and it's sequel The River of Time. Really cool old school German RPGs. They released close to Dragon Age Origins, which made them pass unnoticed!
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Жыл бұрын
Love those games
@burningsheep4473
@burningsheep4473 Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that Drakensang is more your character going on an epic quest and picking from about 10 companions to do it, whereas River of Time is more focussed on a few characters and it actually has full voice-acting and way more reactivity. It's also a bit shorter and the story is more about pirates, political intrigue and such. Smaller scale basically. The first game is only really better in regards to environments. It's also the better game for dwarf-lovers ;-) Othe RPGs in the same setting worth trying are Blackguards and Blackguards 2, but these are much, much more combat-focussed than pretty much all of the games on the list.
@grey_wulf
@grey_wulf Жыл бұрын
Hi Mortym! Watching your video is like a tour through my gaming history. I am a HUGE rpg fan, and have played many of the games you mention. Some of my personal favs from your list are KOTOR 1 & 2, Arcanum, Elex, TOEE, Shadowrun Dragonfall, DOS2, BG 1 & 2, PFK. I am planning on playing PFWotR soon.
@andrewfernandez684
@andrewfernandez684 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see underrail so high up, I didn't think you liked it enough for that placement. It's up there with Pillars 2, KotoR 2, VTMB, and WotR that are all my favorite depending on the day lol
@YoreHistory
@YoreHistory Жыл бұрын
I am playing Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous right now and im so glad I used your review to try this game. I am absolutely loving it...deep and meaty CRPG...so good!
@stillmattwest
@stillmattwest Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of replaying Icewind Dale. Even though I know the BG series is way more ambitious, IWD just hits the sweet spot of action RPG with table-top mechanics.
@languageguy5539
@languageguy5539 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your channel because you point out aspects of games that I may not have appreciated. You also point out aspects of a game that i didn't like but for reasons i couldn't put my finger on. Obviously, my personal rankings are different. A list of favorite games is like a list of favorite movies or books. The fun is in thinking about the list and fighting with friends about it :)
@Jiwary1
@Jiwary1 Жыл бұрын
Great list. POE 1 & 2 are my favorites, but this list makes a lot of sense. Pathfinders and Divinity 2 are fantastic games as well.
@Tommy_The_Gun
@Tommy_The_Gun Жыл бұрын
Not surprised to see DOS2 & P:Wotr at the top. 2 best isometric table-top crp made to this date. Both games have only 1 flaw - they ends. And when you beat the game - you know the story & plot so the re-playability factor is only down to different builds & combat. Being who I am and making choices that I make - I can not imagine playing P:Wotr again using different build and different mythic paths. Gold Dragon is just too awesom to pick anything else (for me). It is a shame that no one so far made an "open world" table top crpg. Imagine, what if P:Wotr was more like Witcher or Skyrim - still table top, turn based isometric game, but with open world and modding support. So even if you beat the game - you can still play it.
@ignaciomendo483
@ignaciomendo483 Жыл бұрын
Great list! Mine would be very different, for sure, but this is one of those few times where I can understand why you chose this order. Congrats on your work, I love your channel.
@annslow41
@annslow41 Жыл бұрын
Looooved the combat and story in DoS2 so much that I went into a 2nd playthrough immediately after finishing it. Never hits quite the same as that first play
@juliolosada9210
@juliolosada9210 Жыл бұрын
I like them all particularly arcanum, shadowrun, pillar of eternity, fallout, Neverwinter Nights And pathfinder
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Жыл бұрын
Great list! I love that we had a resurgence of crpgs there with Wasteland 2/3, Divinity OS1/2, Pillars Of Eternity 1/2, Tyranny, Pathfinder,Torment, Shadowrun, Bards Tale, etc.. My personal favorites of the more modern crpgs would be Pillars 2, Wasteland 3, Tyranny, Fallout New Vegas and Divinity OS2. Old school ones, KOTOR2, BG2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout1/2, Ultima Series and Wizardry series.
@argomancha
@argomancha Жыл бұрын
Jade Empire was great. Hopefully, a sequel can be made one day.
@mosesdouglas4325
@mosesdouglas4325 Жыл бұрын
One of the best
@jeremylackey6587
@jeremylackey6587 Жыл бұрын
Sifu game play with jade empire magic and skill progression. 😑🤌
@spaceghostohio7989
@spaceghostohio7989 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic review video brother !! It's your list so no complaints from me...all are good/great games in their own right.
@selendile030
@selendile030 Жыл бұрын
Absolute kudos to you, sir, for always using time stamps in your videos. That’s honestly amazing dude!
@BurnsidesAP
@BurnsidesAP Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Tyranny so high up. It’s such an amazing setting. The intrigue reminded me of Game of Thrones for some reason. I feel like it would be an amazing tabletop setting too.
@ryanz486
@ryanz486 Жыл бұрын
Both Solasta and DOS2 I played for about 12 hours each when they came out...and I absolutely hated them. Shelved them both for a year respectively. When I came back to them, I fell absolutely in love with them. DOS2, the story right through I loved. Fun game play as well. The companions I actually liked (Lohse's story/character/VA was great). Solasta has become a top 5 game overall for me now, even though I use to consider it my most hated game. For an indie title, I think it's overall well done and the game play I just find exceptionally fun. PoE1 was my first CRPG (or at least first I finished). Loved it and loved the second as much if not more. Not really into rtwp anymore but both PoE games I still can jump back into every now and then.
@Schizotypic
@Schizotypic 11 ай бұрын
What changed?
@RavelKhay
@RavelKhay Жыл бұрын
It's a great list for sure, wouldn't exactly be my list, but pretty close! Overall tho, one thing that is important for me: I'm really, REALLY happy that Owlcat Studios are being recognized for their work by so many people. I think for me personally, "Kingmaker" is the Number 1 overall (even before BG2 and Planescape) and WotR is probably 4th or 5th, but they're all great games and the amount of work Owlcat put into their Pathfinder games is insane. They deserve all the praise and success and I hope they will keep being successful and praised for Rogue Trader too.
@arash-yazdani
@arash-yazdani Жыл бұрын
I feel like DOS 1 doesn't get enough love, specially the enhance edition is fantastic! it has its issues but the story and plots are surprisingly good. A wonderful intro to CRPG for modern gamers
@Johurph86
@Johurph86 Жыл бұрын
Just recently found your channel and LOVE it! CRPG's have been my favorite genre since my first experience with them: EXILE: Escape from the Pit. If you ever get the gumption to try something VERY niche and old school, you should check out some of Spiderweb Software's CRPGs: Avernum (open world dungeon crawler crpg), Geneforge (pokemon-esque crpg), and Queen's Wish (kingdom builder crpg)
@mrcopycat2355
@mrcopycat2355 Жыл бұрын
On a more serious note, Shadowrun is a blast of a series. I felt Hong Kong dragged on a bit too much at times (and I like text based adventures!) Turns out there was a fund goal to get more lines in the game. Sadly it ended up becoming loops in dialogues that just said the same thing in different ways
@broco1163
@broco1163 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the Shadowrun trilogy is definitely worth playing through, if you like CRPGs and the Shadowrun aesthetic (tech+magic dark cyberpunk near-future stuff). They're not my favorite CRPGs ever, but considering their price and the time you'll spend in them, definitely worth it.
@binarysurfer5066
@binarysurfer5066 Жыл бұрын
Yours and 'worth a buy's channels are the two I go to now regularly for reviews; WAB for the 'is it worth a more detailed look' then yours for a much more detailed 'is it for me'. This is what video gaming journalism should be; but has sadly fallen to 'struggles at and can't be bothered to learn Cuphead controls' levels. Keep up the good work.
@Pikagreg
@Pikagreg Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am in a weird spot where I love CRPG but hate mouse and keyboard which leaves me with a weird mix of trying to find out what games have native gamepad support on PC and ones that have console ports that are not completely terrible. Many CRPG on console receive terrible outsourced ports that are launched with a million bugs and may or may not receive a patch to fix some before they are eventually abandoned by their devs (PoE2 is a great example though the same suffers from older ports like Icewind Dale and Wasteland 2). Every so often we do get cool ones like Greedfall and Divinity which have awesome ports or things like PoE1 or Wasteland which have good ports but are still a bit buggy and do not support gamepads on their PC counterparts. I recently had a lot of fun with Vampyr and Disciples: Liberation. I want to try the Pathfinder games still. I heard the Kingmaker port was a mess though Wrath of the Righteous was alright.
@bifflechips-t5r
@bifflechips-t5r Жыл бұрын
You make a good point about BG1 and 2 -- the combat in 2 can feel repetitive because removing those spell protections becomes so necessary. I just restarted a playthrough of BG1 today, and something I always appreciated is how naturally difficult it is. Few of your allies are walking around with HP in the triple digits, so being forced to be thoughtful about placement in combat makes all the difference because 1-3 hits, especially in the early game, and you're losing your allies, and it still just comes down to luck more often than not. There's a sense of epicness to the whole thing because these weirdoes you got with you have no business going up against Sarevok and the Iron Throne.
@Runeforged
@Runeforged Жыл бұрын
This may be your best vid so far man. There isn’t anything quite like this with someone who has actually played them to the extent you have. Makes for an interesting listen. 👍🏻
@owbu
@owbu Жыл бұрын
Piranha Bytes made a game that is like their last game? SHOCKING :D
@Geraduss
@Geraduss Жыл бұрын
I know, right? Wonder how the Third Elex will be like.. Tbh, I don't really like the Elex setting, more curious about the Gothic remake and how that'll bomb.
@RMKGER
@RMKGER Жыл бұрын
One of the few people I know who prefer BG1 over BG2! Made me subscribe to your channel!
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips Жыл бұрын
Happy to see WotR on top of the list :D just finished Act 4 in my first playthrough, am loving it
@Dark3nedDragon
@Dark3nedDragon Жыл бұрын
It's all downhill from there sadly
@MR67UToob
@MR67UToob Жыл бұрын
@@Dark3nedDragon agreed, becomes a real slog at that point with all the enemies with the ridiculously bloated stats......
@KingslayerSrb
@KingslayerSrb Жыл бұрын
@@MR67UToob the worst thing is that some bloated stats are not even affected by difficulty, so there isn't anything for you to do except avoid playing the way that attacks those unmodifiable stats, or to install mods (but that's not the part of the default game). That coupled with bland characterization, walls of unnecessary text and incredible bloat of utterly useless options means there is no universe I would consider this game to be a top RPG ever. It just has too many flaws and development team doesn't seem to be able to even acknowledge what they got wrong. If there is one word I'd describe this game actually, it really would be the word "bloat".
@Dark3nedDragon
@Dark3nedDragon Жыл бұрын
@@KingslayerSrb I remember fighting an enemy that had like 12 attacks at +60 or some crap, all natural attacks, and an AC over 60, immune to basically everything, etc. and just a regular enemy. That was back when I wasn't metagaming, I had rolled your regular ole inefficient Magus to fulfill my Demon Spellsword fantasy, after that bs I rerolled into a Bloodrager with two weapon fighting, shields, and had like 12 attacks per round +60 or more to hit and damage in the high 80s or higher, extra bonus attacks on every crit, 80+ AC, etc. Act 5 certain infamous dungeon I had to abandon my entire party but the MC Demon with that build, because literally everybody else would get oneshot, meanwhile they were an immortal killing machine on even Core, soloing the entire map.
@kennpike1682
@kennpike1682 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel, I used to play alot of table top games. But with covid and life..I have little time for that..now thanks to you ive discovered crpgs!..thanks
@kristophersouza8104
@kristophersouza8104 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say I love this channel so much. Thank you for the content you create!
@KaguroDraven
@KaguroDraven Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Please cover Geneforge. The series needs more coverage, and the original recently got a good remake.
@rt6544411
@rt6544411 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the list. I have bit more love for Icewind Dale I&II but that is due to personal bias I got them in a game bundle when I was new to gaming and had never played CRPG before. I'm loving Pathfinder WOTR on the console so far it's playing pretty good. I kind of have some doubts about the Shifter class if they play it to close the the pen & paper version there are some fun archetypes though for a video game.
@JavisoGaming
@JavisoGaming Жыл бұрын
Wow! Well done. This video is a masterpiece!
@8bit_outcast708
@8bit_outcast708 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love all of your content. I have watched nearly half of your playlist over the last month. I find that your taste in games lies very close to my own tastes. You have introduced me to some games I have never heard of and enjoyed greatly. Thank you for all the love you put into your channel and videos. I hope to keep seeing you success in the future.
@nickandrievsky5705
@nickandrievsky5705 Жыл бұрын
I believe we love our first games way more. For me it was fallout 2, icewind dale 2, bg have sentimental and historical value over any new ones. Thank you for the video, lots of happy memories.
@nocturnowl_0100
@nocturnowl_0100 Жыл бұрын
I've only watched a couple of your videos but this one has been the most informative on your taste as a reviewer and now I know that we don't see eye to eye on many things and can adjust my internal feedback on your input
@izallskilfoo
@izallskilfoo Жыл бұрын
Great list. I would put Dos2 one, and probably poe1 above wotr but they're all fairly close for me. I do think that when Baldur's Gate 3 comes out it's going to be number one for me by a good margin.
@kaptenteo
@kaptenteo Жыл бұрын
Great list that gave me some good ideas for games I should play. I'll check our your full reviews as well, for some games that sounded particularly enticing.
@omerkeidar95
@omerkeidar95 7 ай бұрын
I love these rankings. They follow non of the conventional wisdom (or dogma) around these games and follows how you feel about each game. Obviously I would rank games completely differently (hard-core Fallout fan here, Fallout's and Fallout likes would be higher for me) but it's so refreshing to see this different perspective, and I got out with a short list of games to try out of it so that's also a win.
@charlescyrillcruz8420
@charlescyrillcruz8420 Жыл бұрын
Always waiting for your top list! Thanks, I wish that divinity sin 3 is already out, or at least same mechanics without the dice roll. If anyone has any recommendations I'll be glad to consider. (btw happy that your channel really grew, been watching your content from 20k subscribers)
@MuppetLord1
@MuppetLord1 Жыл бұрын
Would personally swap BG1&2, BG1 truly shows its age with its extremely grainy areas while 2 has pristine 2d gfx and a more solid story and more companion interactions. :)
@sammyflowproductions933
@sammyflowproductions933 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy the high level combat, too. There's a strategy in picking which spells to memorize and the order of casting them. Also in setting up party members' builds to maximize their buffs from mages.
@ValosarX
@ValosarX Жыл бұрын
I agree with BG1 being higher personally I've been playing it to death recently and really don't feel the draw to play BG2 because the combat is so tedious
@serillen1904
@serillen1904 Жыл бұрын
I would too for several reasons. The companions in 2 were way better, the villain felt much better as well part of that was David Warner doing a great job as the VA, and lastly I loathe levels 1-3 in adnd. Even melee oriented characters can die to a single hit which means its just bow spam until your frontliners can survive enough to take enough hits and actually do their role.
@skieochre3745
@skieochre3745 Жыл бұрын
They each have their strong points. I really loved the exploration style of the first.
@Schlumpsha
@Schlumpsha Жыл бұрын
Hope to see a Drakensang series review from you. While it doesn't use D&D or Pathfinder. It's still a much beloved adaption of The Dark Eye tabletop ruleset.
@Jake-po4sp
@Jake-po4sp Жыл бұрын
+1 for Elex! One of my top games last generation.
@Haywood-Jablomie
@Haywood-Jablomie Жыл бұрын
Elex is awesome !!!
@mythug0
@mythug0 Жыл бұрын
I imagine how hard it must have been to put up this list in order. As someone who played about 70% of the list I don't think I'd ever be able to decide the ranking between some of them without a huge amount of meticulous work/analysis. Without it I can just say I love Pathfinder WoTR, Divinity II, Baldur's Gate (as a whole) and Planescape Tornment (and few more from the list) equally :D
@ducky36F
@ducky36F Жыл бұрын
Great list! Assuming this is excluding later BioWare games and the Witcher series and going for more proper cRPGs, my top 5 would be Dragon Age Origins, Divinity Original Sin 2, Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous, Tyranny and Knights of the Old Republic 2. (I just loved the unique feeling of Tyranny in comparison to the more standard fantasy fare of Pillars even though I enjoy Pillars as well).
@RedEarth20XDX
@RedEarth20XDX Жыл бұрын
Nice to see underrail getting some love. Ive put 600 hours into it and never beat it. Curse my restart-itis!
@iTzTiMeToJuMp
@iTzTiMeToJuMp Жыл бұрын
First of all, so glad I found your channel. I love your content and this video is helpful I think in guiding my choices on which games to focus on (since I own about half) Second, would you bundle the original Divinity: OS with 2? I swear you reviewed it so was surprised to not see it mentioned.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
I covered all the divinity games but only reviewed the second
@bigles025
@bigles025 Жыл бұрын
pretty nice list, reminded me of some games i need to try...i tried expeditions rome thx to you, love that game, i am curious about expeditions Viking, would you consider covering it?
@Priimerra
@Priimerra Жыл бұрын
I love your summary videos. I see you talk about a game for around 30 sec. In my opinion it would be great to stretch this to around 2min and put this vid in parts. It would be more work but also more content for your channel. And I would love to gear more about each game.
@Ichthys42
@Ichthys42 Жыл бұрын
Man, we have the same top 5 games. I'd put Fallout 2 much higher, but that's because it was the highlight of my summer escape to my grandparents house. Great video, Mortym!
@ItsaDaPope-a
@ItsaDaPope-a Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, your channel has 90k subscribers! I feel like it was under 10k a couple of months ago. Am I wrong? In any case, congratulations!
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
I hit 10k in the first half of 2021, but yeah not that long ago
@ItsaDaPope-a
@ItsaDaPope-a Жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming oh, ok. 👍
@merdufer
@merdufer Жыл бұрын
I would rate Planescape:Torment, Disco Elysium, and BG1/BG2 (I see these two as one game) a lot higher because I value a good story over gameplay in a CRPG.
@ΠαύλοςΚ-θ9ζ
@ΠαύλοςΚ-θ9ζ Жыл бұрын
I agree
@KhaosFactorX
@KhaosFactorX Жыл бұрын
Ever since Tyranny first lit up my life and then dashed my emotions on the rocks below, I've wondered...1) Could we crowdsource our own collective sequel and either prompt Obsidian to finish their work of art or give "us" creative license with the general lore...2) What if all or just enough of what makes the game tick (source code, permissions, assets, etc.) could be accessible to everyone, potentially opening up ways for modders or creators to maybe give the game at least a 1.5 version to feel a sense of completion/accomplishment (several of my most beloved books, games, and such are magnetic and memorable because of the level of story, details, and immersion...and like all epic experiences we always return), thus as I see it, a prime opportunity to add some new layer to invite further tinkering...3) Or honestly, we do our best to bottle up what made this game so haunting, amusing and enjoyable and we collaborate, create our own homage or fashion a spiritual successor, like this dude can code, this guy can make some sweet ass midi's, and this guy can conjure animations that will make you weep (mind you, I'm not just meaning to say AAA, for quite a few gems recently have used HD 2D pixel animation to stunning effect), basically if we all really want it, and we do, then let's just make it happen! Petition Obsidian in the meantime, while we get new people hyped and addicted...and lastly, on a personal note, I feel we can manifest anything our hearts desire, so I will be willing Tyranny 2 into existence since I first fell in love and forevermore :)
@name_christian
@name_christian Жыл бұрын
Nice to see expeditions Rome that high up.
@chanm01
@chanm01 Жыл бұрын
I love this list completely and disagree with nothing. 👀 Haha. But honestly, this list brings back a lot of fond memories. A lot of hours spent getting lost in these worlds. Good times.
@aztecore
@aztecore Жыл бұрын
Expeditions Rome over Fallout New Vegas??? I definitely love it and don't disagree! Though seriously, you've convinced me to finally buy it. Cheers mate
@chrismiller3484
@chrismiller3484 Жыл бұрын
Awesome List Brother!
@ForceOfWill270
@ForceOfWill270 Жыл бұрын
Mort you're the hero we needed but didn't deserve. I love your uploads. Your precise yet informative delivery. And unbiased take on your reviews. Keep the vids coming. And thank you for your time and willingness to present us with quality content.
@otakarlojkasek488
@otakarlojkasek488 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your list, we have same taste, the only thing I would have differently is the first and the third place, I just believe that the world of Eora is incredible and there are not many games which made such an appealing fictional world(with lore and everything). I still hope there will be POE 3 and I am incredibly interested in avowed :)
@Elintasokas
@Elintasokas Жыл бұрын
Obsidian are working on a non-PoE RPG set in the same universe.
@dreamer5234
@dreamer5234 Жыл бұрын
Love this, thank you! More rankings in the future please!
@tahnadana5435
@tahnadana5435 Жыл бұрын
they really should make a CRPG based on dark sun.... and vampire the masquerade, hell, world of darkness i meant new ones, not old crappy ones... and yes redemption is great but its so dated now, i want to choose between all 13 vampire clans, like pillars of eternity 2 but world of darkness, as for dark sun how about a stroy surrounding a gladiator tournaments all over athas...where we need to build our gladiator team to participate and with permadeath like jagged alliance 2
@egamruf
@egamruf Жыл бұрын
There are two party based Dark Sun RPGs which did pretty well with the ruleset. Both came out in the 90s and the first, at least, is still worth playing if you can get over the graphics.
@Aikuchi
@Aikuchi Жыл бұрын
I thought they did. - Dark Sun: Shattered Lands Its on the old side of gaming, I may have finished it when i was a teen but its still a Dark Sun game :D
@lusalma5404
@lusalma5404 Жыл бұрын
there were 2 in the early 90s Shattered Sun and Wake of the Ravager using 2e rules both on GoG :)
@j72ashley
@j72ashley Жыл бұрын
@IdleBigots If you've exhausted your RPG backlog, there are the old Sega games from the 90s. If you haven't given the Shining Force series a try, I think you might like it. 16bit, so there is that, but the progression system in Shining Force is just outstanding.
@jameslewis9292
@jameslewis9292 Жыл бұрын
@@j72ashley I lost so many days playing Shining Force 2...
@jmike8934
@jmike8934 Жыл бұрын
I would have like to have seen NWN2 a bit higher on your list. The reason being since you put BG1&2 so high up there there is a module for NWN2 called Baldur’s Gate Reloaded and to describe it as simply a campaign port of BG1 into NWN2 does it a disservice. It’s flat out incredible and the years put into it’s creation and polish shows. Supposedly the same crew are grinding out the BG2 version as I type.
@Xasew
@Xasew Жыл бұрын
That sounds... too good to be true? I just started BG1 for the first time ever, but I've also got a never-even-installed NWN2 in Steam. Maybe I should switch. :D
@MistyKathrine
@MistyKathrine 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you don't have Wizardry 8 on this list, it's one of the best CRPGs from the early 2000s. If you've never played Wizardry 8 you owe it to yourself to try it because it really is a good game.
@Codedfate
@Codedfate Жыл бұрын
I like your stuff man :) 3rd video for me today. Keep it coming!!! 👏
@goldbrickgangboss
@goldbrickgangboss Жыл бұрын
You should try Solasta's DM creations when you play it next. Some are pretty good. Try The Forsaken Isle and Shadows Over Brightreach.
@nathaniel2228
@nathaniel2228 Жыл бұрын
Well, i must say "Wow"! There is a lot of work put in this and many other of your videos and i just enjoy re-living memories of my childhood gaming while watching all this, i can't be less than astounded by your ranking. Damn, beauty is really in eye of the beholder... At least Planescape: Torment and Disco Elysium (my favourites) are above ELEX... i guess... Either way keep your good work!
@M4ttNet
@M4ttNet Жыл бұрын
Great list. All amazing games great to see CRPG love still going strong, grew up on many of them. For me Bioware games are still the top. IMHO they do companion driven RPGs the best and those are easily my favorite (Origins being my favorite, though I think Inquisition is massively underrated)... though tbh there's an embarrassment of riches when it comes to great CRPGs, both old and new, I don't think any list can go wrong really.
@boo_
@boo_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing only very early game footage to avoid even minor spoilers :)
@MIG106
@MIG106 Жыл бұрын
Impressive scope of video here, even with how thoroughly you've reviewed and know them!
@thomasdickinson2522
@thomasdickinson2522 11 ай бұрын
Lionheart Legacy of the Crusader! I have been looking for what that game was called for years. I remember playing it when I was young but could never remember the name. I'm going to subscribe to you for this reason alone. I was beginning to think I had made this game up. 🤣
@zarddin9561
@zarddin9561 Жыл бұрын
To tell the truth because of how great Planescape: Torment story is and how you will run around without any armor for your main hero it is best to play as a mage and get all the cool spells and also more dialogue and story interactions because of good INT WIS and CHA. Starting with 16 INT 16 WIS 16 CHA and increasing WIS and INT to 20 is probably the best way to play and get all the spells and dialogue options.
@Nikit4445
@Nikit4445 Жыл бұрын
Planescape: Torment is THE ONLY RPG that made CHA stat somewhat usefull
@zarddin9561
@zarddin9561 Жыл бұрын
@@Nikit4445 There are plenty of RPGs that use CHA for persuasion or for Sorcerer and Bard spells or Paladins saving throws and smite bonuses or some classes and subclasses special features/bonuses etc.
@Nikit4445
@Nikit4445 Жыл бұрын
@@zarddin9561 yeah right. FIRST stat to dump/
@zarddin9561
@zarddin9561 Жыл бұрын
@@Nikit4445 Dumping CHA on Bard or Sorcerer or Paladin is as wise as dumping WIS on a cleric or INT on a Wizard...
@skieochre3745
@skieochre3745 Жыл бұрын
The effects of the spells for the time are a thing of beauty. Compared to any other IE game, and many games that came years alter. I always played a mage.
@fastsnake
@fastsnake Жыл бұрын
Is it me or divinity original sin 1 wasn't on the list? Seeing how crazy you were (you even mentioned it in this video) about the Divinity world, I can't believe you haven't done this game already!
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
I covered all of the divinity games a lot, but only actually reviewed DOS2
@UlissesSampaio
@UlissesSampaio Жыл бұрын
Love those kinds of lists. VtM:B is a masterpiece. A few ones you might consider, though they are ARPG: *Oblivion *Skyrim *Kimgdom Come Deliverance
@dougdynamo9398
@dougdynamo9398 Жыл бұрын
As someone who isn't really a CRPG guy, I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Keep up the amazing work.
@Aggerr
@Aggerr Жыл бұрын
Wow, think this is the first time I have pretty much completely agreed with a list like this. The only real difference is, I enjoyed Kotor 1 more than 2, and would probably have put Shadowrun Hong Kong a bit higher, since I not only love the combat, but also think the companions in that game are super well written, especially Racter.
@EurrikkeEdward
@EurrikkeEdward Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD. Lionheart was my childhood. And probably the game that got me into crpgs.
@Hitoshuratdn
@Hitoshuratdn Жыл бұрын
I think I will use your list a benchmark for what I'm gonna play next starting from the top. I was having trouble finding what games to play after Wotr and Baldur's Gate.
@bakuiel1901
@bakuiel1901 Жыл бұрын
Too many things to comment on because I have some different opinions. But you know that's what's great, I really respect your reviews and I can see why you rank things the way you do even if I would do differently and that let's me see the likelihood of me liking a game based on your opinion. Thank you for all these reviews.
@phillhunt5097
@phillhunt5097 Жыл бұрын
Love this video! Simply from an introduction to new crpg standpoint.
@TheLocalDisasterTourGuide
@TheLocalDisasterTourGuide Жыл бұрын
As a fan of Pathfinder Kingmaker, I have to say - while the game competed hard for that coveted #40 spot on this list, I think it's fair that it ultimately placed at #28! LOL! Kingmaker is a game with so many great elements mixed in with SO MANY frustrating decisions! You almost hate seeing the potential the game had that is muddied by the flaws!
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